Re: Making apple juice, Golden Delicious apples

February 17, 2006

>

> So, what are you saying? That they should not eat apples. My son loves

> apples. He will eat that when he will not eat anything else. Is this

> something I should take away?

>

> Pam

> Matt 3 SCD 5 wks

>

> Making apple juice, Golden Delicious apples

> >

> > >I have heard for a long time that Golden Delicious apples do not feed

> > > yeast. Reportedly, they do not contain the Arabinose (a yeast feeder)

> > > that other types of apples do. I was told this was an SCD dietary rule.

> > > Is this the case?

> > >

> > > Also, is there a legal apple juice? If I wanted to make apple juice,

> > > does anyone know how would I go about it? Pear juice?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Suzanne

Page 76 of BTVC explains why commercial apple juice is not permitted but fresh

pressed

apple cider is. Just feed apples into your juicer. Peeling is optional with my

Omega 8002

juicer.

Carol F.

February 17, 2006

>

> So, what are you saying? That they should not eat apples. My son loves

> apples. He will eat that when he will not eat anything else. Is this

> something I should take away?

>

> Pam

> Matt 3 SCD 5 wks

>

> Making apple juice, Golden Delicious apples

> >

> > >I have heard for a long time that Golden Delicious apples do not feed

> > > yeast. Reportedly, they do not contain the Arabinose (a yeast feeder)

> > > that other types of apples do. I was told this was an SCD dietary rule.

> > > Is this the case?

> > >

> > > Also, is there a legal apple juice? If I wanted to make apple juice,

> > > does anyone know how would I go about it? Pear juice?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Suzanne

Page 76 of BTVC explains why commercial apple juice is not permitted but fresh

pressed

apple cider is. Just feed apples into your juicer. Peeling is optional with my

Omega 8002

juicer.

Carol F.

February 17, 2006

>

> So, what are you saying? That they should not eat apples. My son loves

> apples. He will eat that when he will not eat anything else. Is this

> something I should take away?

>

> Pam

> Matt 3 SCD 5 wks

>

> Making apple juice, Golden Delicious apples

> >

> > >I have heard for a long time that Golden Delicious apples do not feed

> > > yeast. Reportedly, they do not contain the Arabinose (a yeast feeder)

> > > that other types of apples do. I was told this was an SCD dietary rule.

> > > Is this the case?

> > >

> > > Also, is there a legal apple juice? If I wanted to make apple juice,

> > > does anyone know how would I go about it? Pear juice?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Suzanne

Page 76 of BTVC explains why commercial apple juice is not permitted but fresh

pressed

apple cider is. Just feed apples into your juicer. Peeling is optional with my

Omega 8002

juicer.

Carol F.

February 17, 2006

>

> All this apple discussion is very interesting, I had no idea that someone

could be

sensitive to a certain type of apple.>

Many people with Latex Allergy can't use any apples.

Carol F.

February 17, 2006

>

> All this apple discussion is very interesting, I had no idea that someone

could be

sensitive to a certain type of apple.>

Many people with Latex Allergy can't use any apples.

Carol F.

February 17, 2006

Obviously I can only speak for my son and his experiences....but when

really craves something everyday and only wants that....I know it may be a

problem for him. We are currently chelating so yeast is a constant issue

for us. I try to limit the fruit due to our yeast issues. He still eats

fruit everyday...but not at the expense of all other foods.

I hope this clarifies what I was saying.

jen

Mom to SCD 8 months

Making apple juice, Golden Delicious apples

>>

>> >I have heard for a long time that Golden Delicious apples do not feed

>> > yeast. Reportedly, they do not contain the Arabinose (a yeast feeder)

>> > that other types of apples do. I was told this was an SCD dietary rule.

>> > Is this the case?

>> >

>> > Also, is there a legal apple juice? If I wanted to make apple juice,

>> > does anyone know how would I go about it? Pear juice?

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Suzanne

>> >

>> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

>> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> following

>> > websites:

>> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

>> > and

>> > http://www.pecanbread.com

>> >

February 17, 2006

Obviously I can only speak for my son and his experiences....but when

really craves something everyday and only wants that....I know it may be a

problem for him. We are currently chelating so yeast is a constant issue

for us. I try to limit the fruit due to our yeast issues. He still eats

fruit everyday...but not at the expense of all other foods.

I hope this clarifies what I was saying.

jen

Mom to SCD 8 months

Making apple juice, Golden Delicious apples

>>

>> >I have heard for a long time that Golden Delicious apples do not feed

>> > yeast. Reportedly, they do not contain the Arabinose (a yeast feeder)

>> > that other types of apples do. I was told this was an SCD dietary rule.

>> > Is this the case?

>> >

>> > Also, is there a legal apple juice? If I wanted to make apple juice,

>> > does anyone know how would I go about it? Pear juice?

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Suzanne

>> >

>> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

>> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> following

>> > websites:

>> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

>> > and

>> > http://www.pecanbread.com

>> >

February 17, 2006

Hmm, I don't own a juicer and money is tight. Is there any way with

just boiling and straining to do a decent rough job of it?

Suzanne

February 17, 2006

Hmm, I don't own a juicer and money is tight. Is there any way with

just boiling and straining to do a decent rough job of it?

Suzanne

February 17, 2006

Jen,

I am also chelating my daughter, 16 mo., and am having continual yeast problems.

She has been doing SCD for over 2 months and still has diarrhea. We also have

to induce her bowels every evening because she seems to have lost the ability to

push them out.

We tried applesauce for the first time last week and it caused a flare in her

eczema (which I think is partially related to her yeast). What other foods

cause problems for your son? This may help me figure out how to best feed Elle

while we are chelating with SCD. I appreciate your time in sharing.

Cordially,

Jeni Lynn

Making apple juice, Golden Delicious apples

>>

>> >I have heard for a long time that Golden Delicious apples do not feed

>> > yeast. Reportedly, they do not contain the Arabinose (a yeast feeder)

>> > that other types of apples do. I was told this was an SCD dietary rule.

>> > Is this the case?

>> >

>> > Also, is there a legal apple juice? If I wanted to make apple juice,

>> > does anyone know how would I go about it? Pear juice?

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Suzanne

>> >

>> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

>> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> following

>> > websites:

>> >

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

>> > and

>> > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>> >

February 17, 2006

Jen,

I am also chelating my daughter, 16 mo., and am having continual yeast problems.

She has been doing SCD for over 2 months and still has diarrhea. We also have

to induce her bowels every evening because she seems to have lost the ability to

push them out.

We tried applesauce for the first time last week and it caused a flare in her

eczema (which I think is partially related to her yeast). What other foods

cause problems for your son? This may help me figure out how to best feed Elle

while we are chelating with SCD. I appreciate your time in sharing.

Cordially,

Jeni Lynn

Making apple juice, Golden Delicious apples

>>

>> >I have heard for a long time that Golden Delicious apples do not feed

>> > yeast. Reportedly, they do not contain the Arabinose (a yeast feeder)

>> > that other types of apples do. I was told this was an SCD dietary rule.

>> > Is this the case?

>> >

>> > Also, is there a legal apple juice? If I wanted to make apple juice,

>> > does anyone know how would I go about it? Pear juice?

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Suzanne

>> >

>> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

>> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> following

>> > websites:

>> >

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

>> > and

>> > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>> >

February 17, 2006

Jeni Lynn,

Have you discussed this stool problem with your doctor?

I am not a doctor, but it seems to be very odd to need to use an enema

to induce a D. stool.

I think her bowel needs some type of retraining at this young age

before she becomes enema dependent for life.

If her stool is soft, it should not be difficult to pass.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

February 17, 2006

Jeni Lynn,

Have you discussed this stool problem with your doctor?

I am not a doctor, but it seems to be very odd to need to use an enema

to induce a D. stool.

I think her bowel needs some type of retraining at this young age

before she becomes enema dependent for life.

If her stool is soft, it should not be difficult to pass.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

February 17, 2006

I will e-mail you directly later tonight. I am interested in sharing

information together.

Jen

Making apple juice, Golden Delicious apples

> >>

> >> >I have heard for a long time that Golden Delicious apples do not feed

> >> > yeast. Reportedly, they do not contain the Arabinose (a yeast

> feeder)

> >> > that other types of apples do. I was told this was an SCD dietary

> rule.

> >> > Is this the case?

> >> >

> >> > Also, is there a legal apple juice? If I wanted to make apple juice,

> >> > does anyone know how would I go about it? Pear juice?

> >> >

> >> > Thanks,

> >> > Suzanne

> >> >

> >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the

> book

> >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> > following

> >> > websites:

> >> >

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

> >> > and

> >> > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

> >> >

February 17, 2006

Sandy,

The first diaper was very soft and mushy the second one was the big D. And

these were with an hour of each other. But it didn't happen until after lunch

and we had the apple pancakes for breakfast at 7. Could it be that he's not

" allergic " (a mom's diagnosis as we've had zero testing done)?

moeller124 no_reply > wrote:

When you talk about reaction, what kind of reaction are you refering

to?

Sandy M.

> Pam,

>

> I don't think that Jen was implying anything specific for your

son. You will need to determine if your son is sensitive to apples

or not (or more specifically, this type of apple).

>

> Jeni Lynn

> Making apple juice, Golden Delicious

apples

> >

> > >I have heard for a long time that Golden Delicious apples do

not feed

> > > yeast. Reportedly, they do not contain the Arabinose (a

yeast feeder)

> > > that other types of apples do. I was told this was an SCD

dietary rule.

> > > Is this the case?

> > >

> > > Also, is there a legal apple juice? If I wanted to make

apple juice,

> > > does anyone know how would I go about it? Pear juice?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Suzanne

> > >

> > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please

read the book

> > > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the

> following

> > > websites:

> > >

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingthevicious

cycle.info/>

> > > and

> > > http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

> > >

February 17, 2006

Hey Jody,

I appreciate your concern. I have been in touch with my DAN throughout this

whole ordeal. We are all concerned that we have to induce diarrhea bowels. You

are right, it is not a good situation.

I find myself in a predicament. We are chelating Elle, so she has to make a

bowel everyday in order to eliminate the metals (she has multiple metal

poisonings at very high levels). Therefore, if she does not eliminate on her

own, I am left with no choice but to induce it.

Our DAN thinks that the metals have caused Elle's digestive system to lose their

ability to squish out the bowel. Also, since she continually has diarrhea or

pudding poops for the most part, her stools don't firm up and put pressure on

the intestinal walls for " squishing out. " She is on a compounded version of

bethanechol which is supposed to help stimulate this " squishing " movement.

However, so far it hasn't helped much.

Since she is chelating, it is likely that the chelators are continually feeding

her yeast. And since we are doing SCD it is likely that we are in a continual

state of die-off, hence the pudding poops. On occasion her stools will firm up

some (during days of chelation), but they always return to pudding.

My hope is that we will finish chelation shortly. She has eliminated 5 of her

metals already (after 2 months of chelation). We have 6 left to go. Once we

are done, I am hoping that SCD can restore her gut to a healthy state. As of

right now, I am doing SCD with the hope that it will keep her gut from getting

too ripped up while we chelate.

As far as " stimulating foods " we give her pureed stewed prunes and pearsauce. I

did try applesauce this last week, but her eczema worsened (my guess is due to

feeding yeast). Do you think I should try the muffins in the constipation

protocol? I haven't done this because Elle has severe leaky gut, making her

susceptible to a number of allergies. I wanted to avoid a nut allergy if

possible. In addition to this, I wasn't sure if the constipation protocol

applied to Elle since she is constipated with pudding poops. Also, she is only

16 mo, and I don't remember at what age they recommend giving nut products to

children.

If you have any helpful tips, I would be interested in hearing them. But as of

now, we are doing everything that I know of to make the best of a bad situation.

Thanks!

Jeni Lynn

mom to Elle (leaky gut, severe eczema, heavy metal toxicity)

SCD 1/05

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

February 17, 2006

Jeni Lynn,

I wasn't trying to be critical. I was just concerned.

I realize that there are not always good or easy solutions to all

problems.

I would probably avoid nuts if I were in your situation as well.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

February 17, 2006

Jeni Lynn,

I wasn't trying to be critical. I was just concerned.

I realize that there are not always good or easy solutions to all

problems.

I would probably avoid nuts if I were in your situation as well.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

February 17, 2006

Jeni Lynn,

I wasn't trying to be critical. I was just concerned.

I realize that there are not always good or easy solutions to all

problems.

I would probably avoid nuts if I were in your situation as well.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

February 17, 2006

Hi Jody!

I never felt like you were being critical. Sometimes this type of

communication is frustrating because you can't hear an individuals

tone in their response.

Please don't think that I felt condemned. I know you have pure

intentions, and I do appreciate your concern and input. Saying that,

I am very open to any ideas if you come across some possible

solutions in the future.

Thank you again for all you do for this group. It is truly admirable

the way that you invest so much of yourself to help complete

strangers.

Jeni Lynn

mom to Elle (leaky gut, severe eczema, heavy metal toxicity)

SCD since 12/05

>

> Jeni Lynn,

>

> I wasn't trying to be critical. I was just concerned.

>

> I realize that there are not always good or easy solutions to all

> problems.

>

> I would probably avoid nuts if I were in your situation as well.

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

February 17, 2006

Hi Jody!

I never felt like you were being critical. Sometimes this type of

communication is frustrating because you can't hear an individuals

tone in their response.

Please don't think that I felt condemned. I know you have pure

intentions, and I do appreciate your concern and input. Saying that,

I am very open to any ideas if you come across some possible

solutions in the future.

Thank you again for all you do for this group. It is truly admirable

the way that you invest so much of yourself to help complete

strangers.

Jeni Lynn

mom to Elle (leaky gut, severe eczema, heavy metal toxicity)

SCD since 12/05

>

> Jeni Lynn,

>

> I wasn't trying to be critical. I was just concerned.

>

> I realize that there are not always good or easy solutions to all

> problems.

>

> I would probably avoid nuts if I were in your situation as well.

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

February 17, 2006

Hi Jody!

I never felt like you were being critical. Sometimes this type of

communication is frustrating because you can't hear an individuals

tone in their response.

Please don't think that I felt condemned. I know you have pure

intentions, and I do appreciate your concern and input. Saying that,

I am very open to any ideas if you come across some possible

solutions in the future.

Thank you again for all you do for this group. It is truly admirable

the way that you invest so much of yourself to help complete

strangers.

Jeni Lynn

mom to Elle (leaky gut, severe eczema, heavy metal toxicity)

SCD since 12/05

>

> Jeni Lynn,

>

> I wasn't trying to be critical. I was just concerned.

>

> I realize that there are not always good or easy solutions to all

> problems.

>

> I would probably avoid nuts if I were in your situation as well.

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

February 18, 2006

Hi Suzanne,

> Hmm, I don't own a juicer and money is tight. Is there any way

with

> just boiling and straining to do a decent rough job of it?

I made the mulled apple juice recipe at

http://pecanbread.com/recipes.html before I had a juicer.

If you want to make it plain:

APPLE JUICE

1 lb (450 g) cooking apples, peeled, cored and sliced

1 pint (600 ml or 2 1/2 C) water

Put apples and water in a pan. Bring to a boil, then lower the heat,

cover and simmer for 10 minutes until the apples are reduced to a

pulp. Transfer to an electric blender and blend until the apples are

smooth.

Strain and refrigerate. (I put them in a large colander lined with a

large clean dish towel) Don't forget to dilute with water (1:1)

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, 22 yrs UC

mom of Em and Dan

February 18, 2006

Hi Suzanne,

> Hmm, I don't own a juicer and money is tight. Is there any way

with

> just boiling and straining to do a decent rough job of it?

I made the mulled apple juice recipe at

http://pecanbread.com/recipes.html before I had a juicer.

If you want to make it plain:

APPLE JUICE

1 lb (450 g) cooking apples, peeled, cored and sliced

1 pint (600 ml or 2 1/2 C) water

Put apples and water in a pan. Bring to a boil, then lower the heat,

cover and simmer for 10 minutes until the apples are reduced to a

pulp. Transfer to an electric blender and blend until the apples are

smooth.

Strain and refrigerate. (I put them in a large colander lined with a

large clean dish towel) Don't forget to dilute with water (1:1)

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, 22 yrs UC

mom of Em and Dan

February 18, 2006

Hi ,

> The first diaper was very soft and mushy the second one was the big

D. And these were with an hour of each other. But it didn't happen

until after lunch and we had the apple pancakes for breakfast at 7.

Could it be that he's not " allergic " (a mom's diagnosis as we've had

zero testing done)?

>

Was that the first time he had gala apples? Were the apples in the

pancakes very tender when cooked? Has he had applesauce before?

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, 22 yrs UC

mom of Em and Dan

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