Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All, I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. They come in glass jars: Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. Agape, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All, I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. They come in glass jars: Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. Agape, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All, I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. They come in glass jars: Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. Agape, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I just saw yesterday, in the latest " grain and salt society " catalog that they have a jar called the perfect pickler. Description says, " The erfect Pickler works through a low-salt fermentation method that uses just a bit of celtic sea salt, spring water, vegetables, herbs, and spices. homemade pickles made in the perfect pickler are alive with friendly microflora, great for the digestive system, and bursting with vitamins, minerals, and life- giving enzymes. the perfect pickler is the easiest and most cost effective way to add the delicious magic of cultured foods to your diet. " it sells for $28.00. I'm getting one! the website if you don't have the catalog is www.celticseasalt.com. All, > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? > > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. > > Agape, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I just saw yesterday, in the latest " grain and salt society " catalog that they have a jar called the perfect pickler. Description says, " The erfect Pickler works through a low-salt fermentation method that uses just a bit of celtic sea salt, spring water, vegetables, herbs, and spices. homemade pickles made in the perfect pickler are alive with friendly microflora, great for the digestive system, and bursting with vitamins, minerals, and life- giving enzymes. the perfect pickler is the easiest and most cost effective way to add the delicious magic of cultured foods to your diet. " it sells for $28.00. I'm getting one! the website if you don't have the catalog is www.celticseasalt.com. All, > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? > > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. > > Agape, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I just saw yesterday, in the latest " grain and salt society " catalog that they have a jar called the perfect pickler. Description says, " The erfect Pickler works through a low-salt fermentation method that uses just a bit of celtic sea salt, spring water, vegetables, herbs, and spices. homemade pickles made in the perfect pickler are alive with friendly microflora, great for the digestive system, and bursting with vitamins, minerals, and life- giving enzymes. the perfect pickler is the easiest and most cost effective way to add the delicious magic of cultured foods to your diet. " it sells for $28.00. I'm getting one! the website if you don't have the catalog is www.celticseasalt.com. All, > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? > > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. > > Agape, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well as youg green coconut water. I used my son's own safe probiotics as a culturing agent to ensure he was getting cultures he needed and no unsafe ingredients. I think the premise behind cultured foods is that they deliver probiotics in a high volume, and to parts of the intestinal tract (ilueum, small intestine) that can be difficult to deliver regular powdered probiotics to. At first, my son made excellent progress with the coconut kefir, and I think this was due to its action to combat a particularly nasty case of yeast that he had. We also treated the yeast with Diflucan at the same time, and he got better rapidly. After awhile, we no longer saw such good progress, and he developed a coconut allergy. We continued to give cultured veggies, but stopped when we began the SCD, since most of them are veggies that are more difficult to digest. I plan to re-start them when he's a little more healed. Suzanne All, > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? > > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. > > Agape, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well as youg green coconut water. I used my son's own safe probiotics as a culturing agent to ensure he was getting cultures he needed and no unsafe ingredients. I think the premise behind cultured foods is that they deliver probiotics in a high volume, and to parts of the intestinal tract (ilueum, small intestine) that can be difficult to deliver regular powdered probiotics to. At first, my son made excellent progress with the coconut kefir, and I think this was due to its action to combat a particularly nasty case of yeast that he had. We also treated the yeast with Diflucan at the same time, and he got better rapidly. After awhile, we no longer saw such good progress, and he developed a coconut allergy. We continued to give cultured veggies, but stopped when we began the SCD, since most of them are veggies that are more difficult to digest. I plan to re-start them when he's a little more healed. Suzanne All, > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? > > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. > > Agape, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 > > Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet > (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic > foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured > various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well > as youg green coconut water. You state that you were formerly on BED. Are you still using BED protocls on SCD? I hope not! Elaine was quite opposed to the use of green coconut water and the BED. She compared the effect of young coconut water with eating green apples. It's an open invitation to cramps and diaharrea. Parsnips and rutabagas are not on SCD, cultured or otherwise. There are fermented foods have a place on SCD. Sauerkraut is one such food. Mimi is conversant with SCD friendly fermented foods and has posted about them on several occasions. One mother who tried to combine SCD and BED against all advice wound up with a very sick child. We have been asked in our Pecanbread guidelines to avoid discussions of alternative diets, illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of the science and practices of SCD. Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 > > Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet > (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic > foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured > various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well > as youg green coconut water. You state that you were formerly on BED. Are you still using BED protocls on SCD? I hope not! Elaine was quite opposed to the use of green coconut water and the BED. She compared the effect of young coconut water with eating green apples. It's an open invitation to cramps and diaharrea. Parsnips and rutabagas are not on SCD, cultured or otherwise. There are fermented foods have a place on SCD. Sauerkraut is one such food. Mimi is conversant with SCD friendly fermented foods and has posted about them on several occasions. One mother who tried to combine SCD and BED against all advice wound up with a very sick child. We have been asked in our Pecanbread guidelines to avoid discussions of alternative diets, illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of the science and practices of SCD. Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 > > Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet > (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic > foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured > various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well > as youg green coconut water. You state that you were formerly on BED. Are you still using BED protocls on SCD? I hope not! Elaine was quite opposed to the use of green coconut water and the BED. She compared the effect of young coconut water with eating green apples. It's an open invitation to cramps and diaharrea. Parsnips and rutabagas are not on SCD, cultured or otherwise. There are fermented foods have a place on SCD. Sauerkraut is one such food. Mimi is conversant with SCD friendly fermented foods and has posted about them on several occasions. One mother who tried to combine SCD and BED against all advice wound up with a very sick child. We have been asked in our Pecanbread guidelines to avoid discussions of alternative diets, illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of the science and practices of SCD. Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Sorry, I thought I was just answering the question with factual advice, as I would if someone asked if they'd ever given their child corn or wheat (which I have never done). I am not following any BED principles now. If I return to using cultured veggies (which I am not aware are illegal per se on SCD), it would be with SCD legal foods. We're not anywhere near that point yet. Suzanne > > > > Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet > > (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic > > foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured > > various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well > > as youg green coconut water. > > You state that you were formerly on BED. Are you still using BED protocls on SCD? I hope > not! > > Elaine was quite opposed to the use of green coconut water and the BED. She compared > the effect of young coconut water with eating green apples. It's an open invitation to > cramps and diaharrea. Parsnips and rutabagas are not on SCD, cultured or otherwise. > > There are fermented foods have a place on SCD. Sauerkraut is one such food. Mimi is > conversant with SCD friendly fermented foods and has posted about them on several > occasions. > > > One mother who tried to combine SCD and BED against all advice wound up with a very > sick child. > > We have been asked in our Pecanbread guidelines to avoid discussions of alternative diets, > illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of > the science and practices of SCD. > > Carol F. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Sorry, I thought I was just answering the question with factual advice, as I would if someone asked if they'd ever given their child corn or wheat (which I have never done). I am not following any BED principles now. If I return to using cultured veggies (which I am not aware are illegal per se on SCD), it would be with SCD legal foods. We're not anywhere near that point yet. Suzanne > > > > Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet > > (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic > > foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured > > various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well > > as youg green coconut water. > > You state that you were formerly on BED. Are you still using BED protocls on SCD? I hope > not! > > Elaine was quite opposed to the use of green coconut water and the BED. She compared > the effect of young coconut water with eating green apples. It's an open invitation to > cramps and diaharrea. Parsnips and rutabagas are not on SCD, cultured or otherwise. > > There are fermented foods have a place on SCD. Sauerkraut is one such food. Mimi is > conversant with SCD friendly fermented foods and has posted about them on several > occasions. > > > One mother who tried to combine SCD and BED against all advice wound up with a very > sick child. > > We have been asked in our Pecanbread guidelines to avoid discussions of alternative diets, > illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of > the science and practices of SCD. > > Carol F. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Sorry, I thought I was just answering the question with factual advice, as I would if someone asked if they'd ever given their child corn or wheat (which I have never done). I am not following any BED principles now. If I return to using cultured veggies (which I am not aware are illegal per se on SCD), it would be with SCD legal foods. We're not anywhere near that point yet. Suzanne > > > > Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet > > (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic > > foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured > > various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well > > as youg green coconut water. > > You state that you were formerly on BED. Are you still using BED protocls on SCD? I hope > not! > > Elaine was quite opposed to the use of green coconut water and the BED. She compared > the effect of young coconut water with eating green apples. It's an open invitation to > cramps and diaharrea. Parsnips and rutabagas are not on SCD, cultured or otherwise. > > There are fermented foods have a place on SCD. Sauerkraut is one such food. Mimi is > conversant with SCD friendly fermented foods and has posted about them on several > occasions. > > > One mother who tried to combine SCD and BED against all advice wound up with a very > sick child. > > We have been asked in our Pecanbread guidelines to avoid discussions of alternative diets, > illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of > the science and practices of SCD. > > Carol F. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I have had the rejuvenative food and they are very good, but they are a VERY advanced food I think, too advanced for me at least > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: Fermented foods - Kim-Chi, and Sauerkraut >Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:20:31 -0800 (PST) > > > > davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All, > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course >yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, >onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery >seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? > > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy >way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass >jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. > > Agape, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I have had the rejuvenative food and they are very good, but they are a VERY advanced food I think, too advanced for me at least > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: Fermented foods - Kim-Chi, and Sauerkraut >Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:20:31 -0800 (PST) > > > > davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All, > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course >yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, >onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery >seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? > > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy >way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass >jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. > > Agape, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I have had the rejuvenative food and they are very good, but they are a VERY advanced food I think, too advanced for me at least > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: Fermented foods - Kim-Chi, and Sauerkraut >Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:20:31 -0800 (PST) > > > > davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All, > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course >yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, >onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery >seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? > > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy >way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass >jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. > > Agape, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hi , > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? I made sauerkraut recently. It was pretty easy, as you don't have to add any starter (there is natural good starter bacteria in cabbage). It took a while to pound the cabbage but other than that very easy. I let it ferment two weeks at room temperature. The result was tangy sauerkraut. I don't eat cabbage often so I started with just the liquid (full of good bacteria)- it was quite tasty. > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. There is a recipe at (but don't use Kefir grains/starter): http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/ferfun.html If you want to ferment other vegetables Elaine said to use legal starter culture (ie.legal yogurt starter ) Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hi , > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? I made sauerkraut recently. It was pretty easy, as you don't have to add any starter (there is natural good starter bacteria in cabbage). It took a while to pound the cabbage but other than that very easy. I let it ferment two weeks at room temperature. The result was tangy sauerkraut. I don't eat cabbage often so I started with just the liquid (full of good bacteria)- it was quite tasty. > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. There is a recipe at (but don't use Kefir grains/starter): http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/ferfun.html If you want to ferment other vegetables Elaine said to use legal starter culture (ie.legal yogurt starter ) Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hi , > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? I made sauerkraut recently. It was pretty easy, as you don't have to add any starter (there is natural good starter bacteria in cabbage). It took a while to pound the cabbage but other than that very easy. I let it ferment two weeks at room temperature. The result was tangy sauerkraut. I don't eat cabbage often so I started with just the liquid (full of good bacteria)- it was quite tasty. > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. There is a recipe at (but don't use Kefir grains/starter): http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/ferfun.html If you want to ferment other vegetables Elaine said to use legal starter culture (ie.legal yogurt starter ) Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hi Suzanne, > Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet > (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic > foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured > various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well > as youg green coconut water. I used my son's own safe probiotics as a > culturing agent to ensure he was getting cultures he needed and no > unsafe ingredients. > > I think the premise behind cultured foods is that they deliver > probiotics in a high volume, and to parts of the intestinal tract > (ilueum, small intestine) that can be difficult to deliver regular > powdered probiotics to. > > At first, my son made excellent progress with the coconut kefir, and > I think this was due to its action to combat a particularly nasty > case of yeast that he had. We also treated the yeast with Diflucan at > the same time, and he got better rapidly. After awhile, we no longer > saw such good progress, and he developed a coconut allergy. > > We continued to give cultured veggies, but stopped when we began the > SCD, since most of them are veggies that are more difficult to > digest. I plan to re-start them when he's a little more healed. > > Suzanne Although most of the cultured vegetables may be too difficult to digest for you now, you may be fine just using the liquid from the fermented vegetables. You'll still get the good bacteria but leave the difficult to digest fiber behind. (FYI for other newbies, young (green coconut kefir) is SCD illegal. Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 , Thanks for answering. What symptoms did you have? I've been giving either 1/4 cup of sauerkraut, kim-chi, or yougurt in the AM, for gut repair. So far, so good, I think, but am I missing something? We've been on the diet for about seven months...I can't say he 100%, because his selfocused father, feeds him off diet sometimes when he's with him. He is recovering from a mild case, it turns out, of the chicken pox, no fever, only 3 days of itching, good appetite, no decrease in cognition, no increase in acting out (Thank God). Toren has been only with me since the start of his symptoms... I couldn't chance sending him to his father, being sick and all. Does anybody know if the diet, and fermented foods in particular, might have contributed to the mildness of the illness? Agape, Petrolino lkpetrolino@...> wrote: I have had the rejuvenative food and they are very good, but they are a VERY advanced food I think, too advanced for me at least > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: Fermented foods - Kim-Chi, and Sauerkraut >Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:20:31 -0800 (PST) > > > > davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All, > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course >yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, >onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery >seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? > > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy >way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass >jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. > > Agape, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 , Thanks for answering. What symptoms did you have? I've been giving either 1/4 cup of sauerkraut, kim-chi, or yougurt in the AM, for gut repair. So far, so good, I think, but am I missing something? We've been on the diet for about seven months...I can't say he 100%, because his selfocused father, feeds him off diet sometimes when he's with him. He is recovering from a mild case, it turns out, of the chicken pox, no fever, only 3 days of itching, good appetite, no decrease in cognition, no increase in acting out (Thank God). Toren has been only with me since the start of his symptoms... I couldn't chance sending him to his father, being sick and all. Does anybody know if the diet, and fermented foods in particular, might have contributed to the mildness of the illness? Agape, Petrolino lkpetrolino@...> wrote: I have had the rejuvenative food and they are very good, but they are a VERY advanced food I think, too advanced for me at least > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: Fermented foods - Kim-Chi, and Sauerkraut >Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:20:31 -0800 (PST) > > > > davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All, > I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course >yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut. > They come in glass jars: > Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt > > Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger, >onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery >seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper > > Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy. > > What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these? > > I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy >way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass >jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know. > > Agape, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Yes, sauerkraut is very easy. All you need is freshly shredded cabbage and good quality water and salt and a blender and a jar. No starter is needed. Simply pack the shredded cabbage in the jar, take some additional cabbage and blend it with seasalt in the blender to make a brine. Fill the jar almost to the top with the brine, then add some rolled cabbage leaves to take up the last airspace. The cabbage will bubble over when fermenting, so put it in a cooler or on a towel or something. I leave mine 7-10 days. It is the very best sauerkraut you've ever tasted! This " natural " culturing method will work for many veggies. By " work " , I mean that a naturally fermented yummy product is the result. However, there is no way to know what bugs are growing in there ... they may be good and healthy (and all our veggies did turn out yummy and not spoined), but you don't have any way to know for sure. I began using starter just to ensure that we were getting the good bugs we wanted, because I suspected my son's odd strains of yeast and bacteria may have come from some of these " environmental " cultures. Suzanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Yes, sauerkraut is very easy. All you need is freshly shredded cabbage and good quality water and salt and a blender and a jar. No starter is needed. Simply pack the shredded cabbage in the jar, take some additional cabbage and blend it with seasalt in the blender to make a brine. Fill the jar almost to the top with the brine, then add some rolled cabbage leaves to take up the last airspace. The cabbage will bubble over when fermenting, so put it in a cooler or on a towel or something. I leave mine 7-10 days. It is the very best sauerkraut you've ever tasted! This " natural " culturing method will work for many veggies. By " work " , I mean that a naturally fermented yummy product is the result. However, there is no way to know what bugs are growing in there ... they may be good and healthy (and all our veggies did turn out yummy and not spoined), but you don't have any way to know for sure. I began using starter just to ensure that we were getting the good bugs we wanted, because I suspected my son's odd strains of yeast and bacteria may have come from some of these " environmental " cultures. Suzanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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