Re: Fermented foods - Kim-Chi, and Sauerkraut

February 24, 2006

davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All,

I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt

are supposed to be good for the gut.

They come in glass jars:

Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger,

onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery

seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper

Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy.

What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way (

like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw

on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know.

Agape,

February 24, 2006

davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All,

I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt

are supposed to be good for the gut.

They come in glass jars:

Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger,

onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery

seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper

Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy.

What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way (

like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw

on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know.

Agape,

February 24, 2006

davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All,

I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt

are supposed to be good for the gut.

They come in glass jars:

Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger,

onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery

seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper

Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy.

What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way (

like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw

on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know.

Agape,

February 24, 2006

I just saw yesterday, in the latest " grain and salt society " catalog that they

have a jar called

the perfect pickler. Description says, " The erfect Pickler works through a

low-salt

fermentation method that uses just a bit of celtic sea salt, spring water,

vegetables, herbs,

and spices. homemade pickles made in the perfect pickler are alive with friendly

microflora, great for the digestive system, and bursting with vitamins,

minerals, and life-

giving enzymes. the perfect pickler is the easiest and most cost effective way

to add the

delicious magic of cultured foods to your diet. " it sells for $28.00. I'm

getting one! the

website if you don't have the catalog is www.celticseasalt.com.

All,

> I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt

are

supposed to be good for the gut.

> They come in glass jars:

> Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

>

> Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger,

onions,

dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel,

thyme, basil,

sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper

>

> Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy.

>

> What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

>

> I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way (

like, put

cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid,

let set 24 hours

and VOILA!) let me know.

>

> Agape,

>

February 24, 2006

I just saw yesterday, in the latest " grain and salt society " catalog that they

have a jar called

the perfect pickler. Description says, " The erfect Pickler works through a

low-salt

fermentation method that uses just a bit of celtic sea salt, spring water,

vegetables, herbs,

and spices. homemade pickles made in the perfect pickler are alive with friendly

microflora, great for the digestive system, and bursting with vitamins,

minerals, and life-

giving enzymes. the perfect pickler is the easiest and most cost effective way

to add the

delicious magic of cultured foods to your diet. " it sells for $28.00. I'm

getting one! the

website if you don't have the catalog is www.celticseasalt.com.

All,

> I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt

are

supposed to be good for the gut.

> They come in glass jars:

> Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

>

> Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger,

onions,

dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel,

thyme, basil,

sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper

>

> Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy.

>

> What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

>

> I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way (

like, put

cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid,

let set 24 hours

and VOILA!) let me know.

>

> Agape,

>

February 24, 2006

I just saw yesterday, in the latest " grain and salt society " catalog that they

have a jar called

the perfect pickler. Description says, " The erfect Pickler works through a

low-salt

fermentation method that uses just a bit of celtic sea salt, spring water,

vegetables, herbs,

and spices. homemade pickles made in the perfect pickler are alive with friendly

microflora, great for the digestive system, and bursting with vitamins,

minerals, and life-

giving enzymes. the perfect pickler is the easiest and most cost effective way

to add the

delicious magic of cultured foods to your diet. " it sells for $28.00. I'm

getting one! the

website if you don't have the catalog is www.celticseasalt.com.

All,

> I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course yougurt

are

supposed to be good for the gut.

> They come in glass jars:

> Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

>

> Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger,

onions,

dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery seed,fennel,

thyme, basil,

sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper

>

> Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy.

>

> What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

>

> I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy way (

like, put

cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass jar; screw on lid,

let set 24 hours

and VOILA!) let me know.

>

> Agape,

>

February 24, 2006

Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet

(BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic

foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured

various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well

as youg green coconut water. I used my son's own safe probiotics as a

culturing agent to ensure he was getting cultures he needed and no

unsafe ingredients.

I think the premise behind cultured foods is that they deliver

probiotics in a high volume, and to parts of the intestinal tract

(ilueum, small intestine) that can be difficult to deliver regular

powdered probiotics to.

At first, my son made excellent progress with the coconut kefir, and

I think this was due to its action to combat a particularly nasty

case of yeast that he had. We also treated the yeast with Diflucan at

the same time, and he got better rapidly. After awhile, we no longer

saw such good progress, and he developed a coconut allergy.

We continued to give cultured veggies, but stopped when we began the

SCD, since most of them are veggies that are more difficult to

digest. I plan to re-start them when he's a little more healed.

Suzanne

All,

> I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of

course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut.

> They come in glass jars:

> Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

>

> Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli,

ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt,

garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie

red pepper

>

> Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and

happy.

>

> What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

>

> I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really

easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter

in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me

know.

>

> Agape,

>

February 24, 2006

Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet

(BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic

foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured

various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well

as youg green coconut water. I used my son's own safe probiotics as a

culturing agent to ensure he was getting cultures he needed and no

unsafe ingredients.

I think the premise behind cultured foods is that they deliver

probiotics in a high volume, and to parts of the intestinal tract

(ilueum, small intestine) that can be difficult to deliver regular

powdered probiotics to.

At first, my son made excellent progress with the coconut kefir, and

I think this was due to its action to combat a particularly nasty

case of yeast that he had. We also treated the yeast with Diflucan at

the same time, and he got better rapidly. After awhile, we no longer

saw such good progress, and he developed a coconut allergy.

We continued to give cultured veggies, but stopped when we began the

SCD, since most of them are veggies that are more difficult to

digest. I plan to re-start them when he's a little more healed.

Suzanne

All,

> I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of

course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut.

> They come in glass jars:

> Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

>

> Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli,

ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt,

garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie

red pepper

>

> Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and

happy.

>

> What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

>

> I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really

easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter

in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me

know.

>

> Agape,

>

February 24, 2006

>

> Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet

> (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic

> foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured

> various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well

> as youg green coconut water.

You state that you were formerly on BED. Are you still using BED protocls on

SCD? I hope

not!

Elaine was quite opposed to the use of green coconut water and the BED. She

compared

the effect of young coconut water with eating green apples. It's an open

invitation to

cramps and diaharrea. Parsnips and rutabagas are not on SCD, cultured or

otherwise.

There are fermented foods have a place on SCD. Sauerkraut is one such food. Mimi

is

conversant with SCD friendly fermented foods and has posted about them on

several

occasions.

One mother who tried to combine SCD and BED against all advice wound up with a

very

sick child.

We have been asked in our Pecanbread guidelines to avoid discussions of

alternative diets,

illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other subjects that are

not part of

the science and practices of SCD.

Carol F.

February 24, 2006

>

> Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet

> (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic

> foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured

> various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well

> as youg green coconut water.

You state that you were formerly on BED. Are you still using BED protocls on

SCD? I hope

not!

Elaine was quite opposed to the use of green coconut water and the BED. She

compared

the effect of young coconut water with eating green apples. It's an open

invitation to

cramps and diaharrea. Parsnips and rutabagas are not on SCD, cultured or

otherwise.

There are fermented foods have a place on SCD. Sauerkraut is one such food. Mimi

is

conversant with SCD friendly fermented foods and has posted about them on

several

occasions.

One mother who tried to combine SCD and BED against all advice wound up with a

very

sick child.

We have been asked in our Pecanbread guidelines to avoid discussions of

alternative diets,

illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other subjects that are

not part of

the science and practices of SCD.

Carol F.

February 24, 2006

>

> Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet

> (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic

> foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured

> various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as well

> as youg green coconut water.

You state that you were formerly on BED. Are you still using BED protocls on

SCD? I hope

not!

Elaine was quite opposed to the use of green coconut water and the BED. She

compared

the effect of young coconut water with eating green apples. It's an open

invitation to

cramps and diaharrea. Parsnips and rutabagas are not on SCD, cultured or

otherwise.

There are fermented foods have a place on SCD. Sauerkraut is one such food. Mimi

is

conversant with SCD friendly fermented foods and has posted about them on

several

occasions.

One mother who tried to combine SCD and BED against all advice wound up with a

very

sick child.

We have been asked in our Pecanbread guidelines to avoid discussions of

alternative diets,

illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other subjects that are

not part of

the science and practices of SCD.

Carol F.

February 24, 2006

Sorry, I thought I was just answering the question with factual

advice, as I would if someone asked if they'd ever given their child

corn or wheat (which I have never done). I am not following any BED

principles now. If I return to using cultured veggies (which I am not

aware are illegal per se on SCD), it would be with SCD legal foods.

We're not anywhere near that point yet.

Suzanne

> >

> > Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet

> > (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic

> > foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured

> > various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as

well

> > as youg green coconut water.

>

> You state that you were formerly on BED. Are you still using BED

protocls on SCD? I hope

> not!

>

> Elaine was quite opposed to the use of green coconut water and the

BED. She compared

> the effect of young coconut water with eating green apples. It's

an open invitation to

> cramps and diaharrea. Parsnips and rutabagas are not on SCD,

cultured or otherwise.

>

> There are fermented foods have a place on SCD. Sauerkraut is one

such food. Mimi is

> conversant with SCD friendly fermented foods and has posted about

them on several

> occasions.

>

> One mother who tried to combine SCD and BED against all advice

wound up with a very

> sick child.

>

> We have been asked in our Pecanbread guidelines to avoid

discussions of alternative diets,

> illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other

subjects that are not part of

> the science and practices of SCD.

>

> Carol F.

>

February 24, 2006

Sorry, I thought I was just answering the question with factual

advice, as I would if someone asked if they'd ever given their child

corn or wheat (which I have never done). I am not following any BED

principles now. If I return to using cultured veggies (which I am not

aware are illegal per se on SCD), it would be with SCD legal foods.

We're not anywhere near that point yet.

Suzanne

> >

> > Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet

> > (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic

> > foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured

> > various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as

well

> > as youg green coconut water.

>

> You state that you were formerly on BED. Are you still using BED

protocls on SCD? I hope

> not!

>

> Elaine was quite opposed to the use of green coconut water and the

BED. She compared

> the effect of young coconut water with eating green apples. It's

an open invitation to

> cramps and diaharrea. Parsnips and rutabagas are not on SCD,

cultured or otherwise.

>

> There are fermented foods have a place on SCD. Sauerkraut is one

such food. Mimi is

> conversant with SCD friendly fermented foods and has posted about

them on several

> occasions.

>

> One mother who tried to combine SCD and BED against all advice

wound up with a very

> sick child.

>

> We have been asked in our Pecanbread guidelines to avoid

discussions of alternative diets,

> illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other

subjects that are not part of

> the science and practices of SCD.

>

> Carol F.

>

February 24, 2006

Sorry, I thought I was just answering the question with factual

advice, as I would if someone asked if they'd ever given their child

corn or wheat (which I have never done). I am not following any BED

principles now. If I return to using cultured veggies (which I am not

aware are illegal per se on SCD), it would be with SCD legal foods.

We're not anywhere near that point yet.

Suzanne

> >

> > Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet

> > (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic

> > foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured

> > various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as

well

> > as youg green coconut water.

>

> You state that you were formerly on BED. Are you still using BED

protocls on SCD? I hope

> not!

>

> Elaine was quite opposed to the use of green coconut water and the

BED. She compared

> the effect of young coconut water with eating green apples. It's

an open invitation to

> cramps and diaharrea. Parsnips and rutabagas are not on SCD,

cultured or otherwise.

>

> There are fermented foods have a place on SCD. Sauerkraut is one

such food. Mimi is

> conversant with SCD friendly fermented foods and has posted about

them on several

> occasions.

>

> One mother who tried to combine SCD and BED against all advice

wound up with a very

> sick child.

>

> We have been asked in our Pecanbread guidelines to avoid

discussions of alternative diets,

> illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other

subjects that are not part of

> the science and practices of SCD.

>

> Carol F.

>

February 24, 2006

I have had the rejuvenative food and they are very good, but they are a VERY

advanced food I think, too advanced for me at least

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: Fermented foods - Kim-Chi, and Sauerkraut

>Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:20:31 -0800 (PST)

>

> davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All,

> I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course

>yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut.

> They come in glass jars:

> Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

>

> Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger,

>onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery

>seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper

>

> Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy.

>

> What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

>

> I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy

>way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass

>jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know.

>

> Agape,

>

February 24, 2006

I have had the rejuvenative food and they are very good, but they are a VERY

advanced food I think, too advanced for me at least

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: Fermented foods - Kim-Chi, and Sauerkraut

>Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:20:31 -0800 (PST)

>

> davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All,

> I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course

>yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut.

> They come in glass jars:

> Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

>

> Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger,

>onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery

>seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper

>

> Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy.

>

> What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

>

> I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy

>way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass

>jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know.

>

> Agape,

>

February 24, 2006

I have had the rejuvenative food and they are very good, but they are a VERY

advanced food I think, too advanced for me at least

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: Fermented foods - Kim-Chi, and Sauerkraut

>Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:20:31 -0800 (PST)

>

> davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All,

> I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course

>yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut.

> They come in glass jars:

> Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

>

> Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger,

>onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery

>seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper

>

> Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy.

>

> What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

>

> I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy

>way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass

>jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know.

>

> Agape,

>

February 25, 2006

Hi ,

> I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of

course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut.

> They come in glass jars:

> Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

>

> Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli,

ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt,

garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie

red pepper

>

> Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and

happy.

>

> What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

I made sauerkraut recently. It was pretty easy, as you don't have to

add any starter (there is natural good starter bacteria in cabbage).

It took a while to pound the cabbage but other than that very easy.

I let it ferment two weeks at room temperature. The result was tangy

sauerkraut. I don't eat cabbage often so I started with just the

liquid (full of good bacteria)- it was quite tasty.

> I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really

easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter

in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me

know.

There is a recipe at (but don't use Kefir grains/starter):

http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/ferfun.html

If you want to ferment other vegetables Elaine said to use legal

starter culture (ie.legal yogurt starter )

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of and

February 25, 2006

Hi ,

> I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of

course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut.

> They come in glass jars:

> Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

>

> Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli,

ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt,

garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie

red pepper

>

> Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and

happy.

>

> What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

I made sauerkraut recently. It was pretty easy, as you don't have to

add any starter (there is natural good starter bacteria in cabbage).

It took a while to pound the cabbage but other than that very easy.

I let it ferment two weeks at room temperature. The result was tangy

sauerkraut. I don't eat cabbage often so I started with just the

liquid (full of good bacteria)- it was quite tasty.

> I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really

easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter

in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me

know.

There is a recipe at (but don't use Kefir grains/starter):

http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/ferfun.html

If you want to ferment other vegetables Elaine said to use legal

starter culture (ie.legal yogurt starter )

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of and

February 25, 2006

Hi ,

> I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of

course yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut.

> They come in glass jars:

> Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

>

> Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli,

ginger, onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt,

garlic, celery seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie

red pepper

>

> Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and

happy.

>

> What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

I made sauerkraut recently. It was pretty easy, as you don't have to

add any starter (there is natural good starter bacteria in cabbage).

It took a while to pound the cabbage but other than that very easy.

I let it ferment two weeks at room temperature. The result was tangy

sauerkraut. I don't eat cabbage often so I started with just the

liquid (full of good bacteria)- it was quite tasty.

> I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really

easy way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter

in a glass jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me

know.

There is a recipe at (but don't use Kefir grains/starter):

http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/ferfun.html

If you want to ferment other vegetables Elaine said to use legal

starter culture (ie.legal yogurt starter )

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

mom of and

February 25, 2006

Hi Suzanne,

> Before we started the SCD, we tried some of the Body Ecology Diet

> (BED) methods, which primarily involve adding cultured, probiotic

> foods to the diet to introduce healthy bacteria. I have cultured

> various vegetables (cabbage, parsnips, rutabaga, beets, etc.) as

well

> as youg green coconut water. I used my son's own safe probiotics as

a

> culturing agent to ensure he was getting cultures he needed and no

> unsafe ingredients.

>

> I think the premise behind cultured foods is that they deliver

> probiotics in a high volume, and to parts of the intestinal tract

> (ilueum, small intestine) that can be difficult to deliver regular

> powdered probiotics to.

>

> At first, my son made excellent progress with the coconut kefir,

and

> I think this was due to its action to combat a particularly nasty

> case of yeast that he had. We also treated the yeast with Diflucan

at

> the same time, and he got better rapidly. After awhile, we no

longer

> saw such good progress, and he developed a coconut allergy.

>

> We continued to give cultured veggies, but stopped when we began

the

> SCD, since most of them are veggies that are more difficult to

> digest. I plan to re-start them when he's a little more healed.

>

> Suzanne

Although most of the cultured vegetables may be too difficult to

digest for you now, you may be fine just using the liquid from the

fermented vegetables. You'll still get the good bacteria but leave

the difficult to digest fiber behind.

(FYI for other newbies, young (green coconut kefir) is SCD illegal.

Sheila, SCD 60 mos, UC 22 yrs

February 25, 2006

,

Thanks for answering.

What symptoms did you have?

I've been giving either 1/4 cup of sauerkraut, kim-chi, or yougurt in the AM,

for gut repair. So far, so good, I think, but am I missing something?

We've been on the diet for about seven months...I can't say he 100%, because

his selfocused father, feeds him off diet sometimes when he's with him.

He is recovering from a mild case, it turns out, of the chicken pox, no fever,

only 3 days of itching, good appetite, no decrease in cognition, no increase in

acting out (Thank God). Toren has been only with me since the start of his

symptoms... I couldn't chance sending him to his father, being sick and all.

Does anybody know if the diet, and fermented foods in particular, might have

contributed to the mildness of the illness?

Agape,

Petrolino lkpetrolino@...> wrote:

I have had the rejuvenative food and they are very good, but they are a VERY

advanced food I think, too advanced for me at least

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Re: Fermented foods - Kim-Chi, and Sauerkraut

>Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:20:31 -0800 (PST)

>

> davis brandijacksondavis@...> wrote: All,

> I heard that fermented foods like sauerkraut, kim-chi, and of course

>yougurt are supposed to be good for the gut.

> They come in glass jars:

> Bubbies sauerkraut = cabbage, water and salt

>

> Rejuvenative Foods Organic Kim Chi = cabbage, carrots, brocolli, ginger,

>onions, dandelion greens, lemon juice, Celtic Sea Salt, garlic, celery

>seed,fennel, thyme, basil, sage, rosemary, ground drie red pepper

>

> Toren eats these with prompting and seems a little more aware and happy.

>

> What do you guys think?...Does anybody use these?

>

> I don't know how to make myself... but if anybody knows a really easy

>way ( like, put cabbage, water, salt, and yougurt/kefir starter in a glass

>jar; screw on lid, let set 24 hours and VOILA!) let me know.

>

> Agape,

>

February 25, 2006