Re: Looking for a good understanding doctor!!!

[Guest guest]

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RIGHT ON SANDY....I HEAR YA'...i self treat now too......enuff is

enuff...only lookin' for someone to get another base rx form...and

then add to it...jeanne

In NaturalThyroidHormones , " Sandy "

wrote:

> Betty & Jeanne, for those of us who got sick and tired of being

sick

> , for this group, I'd not be doing as

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

AMEN again CINDI---this was me too....every freakin' time they did

the blood work, they said oh, it is normal....you just must be

working too hard.(horrid fatigue),you must have a lot of stress in

your life(why my hair was falling out,and chronic dermatitis on my

hands)--anemia,and low blood sugar,(you must not be eating right)--

generally just felt like caa-caa..(oh well, not wonder you are

depressed and exhausted,you have three kids)----now as I have said

before, I am NOT your garden variety wimp...I have worked hard my

entire life(and I enjoy it),played hard too...ran 50mile races for

heavens' sake...but this is something that is impossible to overcome,

without a diagnosis ,and the right replacement dose...jeanne

> according to the doctor. If only I'd had a computer then...and

could have

> researched. This kept happening over the years. I'd ask for

testing and that TSH

> over 2 was always called NORMAL.

> I missed the chance then because I didn't have internet access.

>

]

[Guest guest]

Last weekend, I took my teenage son to a concert. If you haven't been to a rock

concert recently, you might be surprised to find one thing missing: seats! Yes,

you are expected to stand for 4 hours. Actually, the kids bounce, smash into

each other, and pass each other overhead, but just standing is acceptable too.

It was an awesome evening, with a son who will be grown and gone very soon, and

without Armour it would have been impossible.

Last night, I was helping my younger son with homework, and my daughter came up

to talk to me, and my wife was talking to me, and the phone rang, and my older

son was practicing guitar loudly, and the dog was barking. Before Armour, I

would have been covering my ears and screaming for quiet. Now, I handled

everything just fine, with the patience I used to have long ago. I pointed this

out, and my younger son agreed. He even did a little imitation of what I would

have done (not a flattering one).

My point (yes, I have one) is that I would have taken all of these things for

granted before. Now I'm grateful for even the smallest things -- giving my

daughter a horsie ride, playing swords with my son, reading a book without

getting a headache. It's like walking through a forest that burned to the

ground, and seeing the new plants beginning to sprout.

Who knows, maybe being grateful is what this was all about.

-- prr, who just isn't feeling like a smarta** tonight, for a change

nc2406@... wrote:

But believe me, I am grateful for every single thing I can do. I am glad i can

wash

the clothes and load the dishwasher. I couldn't do that a year or so ago. I

am grateful that I can sit on my porch and see the beauty around me out here in

the country. My world was full and gray a little over a year ago. I am

grateful that I can breathe deep for the first time in 15 years. I am grateful

that I am not too tired to pet my kitty and play with her. I am grateful that

I

am not consumed with anxious thoughts any more. I am grateful that when my

husband kisses me, my lips have sensation again and that the kiss is so sweet.

I am grateful that my mind functions again. I am grateful that I can get thru

the day without a nap. I am grateful that I am once again a sweet person who

doesn't get irritable at every little thing. I am grateful that I have

energy to take a shower and enjoy it.

[Guest guest]

Last weekend, I took my teenage son to a concert. If you haven't been to a rock

concert recently, you might be surprised to find one thing missing: seats! Yes,

you are expected to stand for 4 hours. Actually, the kids bounce, smash into

each other, and pass each other overhead, but just standing is acceptable too.

It was an awesome evening, with a son who will be grown and gone very soon, and

without Armour it would have been impossible.

Last night, I was helping my younger son with homework, and my daughter came up

to talk to me, and my wife was talking to me, and the phone rang, and my older

son was practicing guitar loudly, and the dog was barking. Before Armour, I

would have been covering my ears and screaming for quiet. Now, I handled

everything just fine, with the patience I used to have long ago. I pointed this

out, and my younger son agreed. He even did a little imitation of what I would

have done (not a flattering one).

My point (yes, I have one) is that I would have taken all of these things for

granted before. Now I'm grateful for even the smallest things -- giving my

daughter a horsie ride, playing swords with my son, reading a book without

getting a headache. It's like walking through a forest that burned to the

ground, and seeing the new plants beginning to sprout.

Who knows, maybe being grateful is what this was all about.

-- prr, who just isn't feeling like a smarta** tonight, for a change

nc2406@... wrote:

But believe me, I am grateful for every single thing I can do. I am glad i can

wash

the clothes and load the dishwasher. I couldn't do that a year or so ago. I

am grateful that I can sit on my porch and see the beauty around me out here in

the country. My world was full and gray a little over a year ago. I am

grateful that I can breathe deep for the first time in 15 years. I am grateful

that I am not too tired to pet my kitty and play with her. I am grateful that

I

am not consumed with anxious thoughts any more. I am grateful that when my

husband kisses me, my lips have sensation again and that the kiss is so sweet.

I am grateful that my mind functions again. I am grateful that I can get thru

the day without a nap. I am grateful that I am once again a sweet person who

doesn't get irritable at every little thing. I am grateful that I have

energy to take a shower and enjoy it.

[Guest guest]

Jeanne, I think the dr's are so used to just putting us off, and honestly,

they'd rather think we're just 'hormonal' or going through the change, or

getting ready to go through the change, or depressed, and the list goes on and

on.

My own pcp told me my symptoms sounded thyroid related, but a week later, when I

got the bloodwork back, he'd not even bothered to run a TSH, which made them

look further. I shudder to think what would have happened if I'd not switched

over into 'bitch mode' and called and got those labs faxed to me. My insistance

to not take this laying down is the only thing that got me treated. This was

after reiving a card in the mail telling me everything was 'just fine'. I was

quite put out with his office by this time, and they very quickly called the lab

and got the tests ran and sure enough......there was a problem. With

hyperT/Graves, it wasn't going to get any better, and dr's consider it dangerous

to be untreated, but getting diagnosed was like nothing I'd ever seen before.

It made me so mad when I thought about that card that said I was just 'fine'

that I wanted to hit somebody in the nose. lol. Everything in my life had

changed and I was fine? uh huh. lol.

If there is one thing I could impress upon people who are suddenly dealing with

a lot of strange symptoms that they are not used to having, it's listen to your

body and don't stop till you find out what is causing the problems. I was

hyperT/Graves when this bozo decided that " I couldn't possibly have a thyroid

problem " which he felt pretty ignorant about later. It's tuff when a dr tells

you it sounds like this, then doesn't even bother to test you after you leave

the office. That is what happened with me. I went from working all week long,

to suddenly having to stay in bed to recoup from working all week. Saturdays

and Sundays, I no longer got out of bed early to get all my errands done, along

with housework. I couldn't hardly function. It was if somebody had fitted me

with a concrete suit and demanded that I trudge around and make myself do what I

had to do. I was so worn out, I couldn't hardly do anything and breathing

became a real chore. Just making it out of bed on sat or sun made me feel like

I was going to just fall over and not get up.

Dr's, I'm convinced only do what we allow them to get away with. They are the

most pompous people I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. But, I always remind

myself of this one thing. Nobody knows my body better than I do, and if

suddenly I have no energy, and am lethargic, sleepy all the time, and can't

function, with pains that are not normal for me, then there is a problem. And

most importantly, I remind myself that all dr's, are only 'practicing' medicine.

Half the time they have no stinking clue what to do, so they just make educated

guesses, and they are always able to make the wrong decision where our health is

concerned. I find that a lot with my pcp who is in a new practice on her own,

and with the 3 endo's I've seen. If it was a toss up between seeing one of

them, or self medicating, I'd have to self medicate and carry on the way I've

been doing. At least it's the one thing that I've done that's been the most

benefit to me. I am as down on dr's as Cindi is. :-)

Seems as if dr's have a reason for everything, like how I'd gained so much

weight, yet I must have been sitting around stuffing myself with candies and

lounging all day long. not! The goofball prolly thought I sat on my butt all

day, never did anything and was depressed. Joke was on him! lol.

SandyE~Houston

Re: Looking for a good understanding

doctor!!!

AMEN again CINDI---this was me too....every freakin' time they did

the blood work, they said oh, it is normal....you just must be

working too hard.(horrid fatigue),you must have a lot of stress in

your life(why my hair was falling out,and chronic dermatitis on my

hands)--anemia,and low blood sugar,(you must not be eating right)--

generally just felt like caa-caa..(oh well, not wonder you are

depressed and exhausted,you have three kids)----now as I have said

before, I am NOT your garden variety wimp...I have worked hard my

entire life(and I enjoy it),played hard too...ran 50mile races for

heavens' sake...but this is something that is impossible to overcome,

without a diagnosis ,and the right replacement dose...jeanne

> according to the doctor. If only I'd had a computer then...and

could have

> researched. This kept happening over the years. I'd ask for

testing and that TSH

> over 2 was always called NORMAL.

> I missed the chance then because I didn't have internet access.

>

]

[Guest guest]

Jeanne, I think the dr's are so used to just putting us off, and honestly,

they'd rather think we're just 'hormonal' or going through the change, or

getting ready to go through the change, or depressed, and the list goes on and

on.

My own pcp told me my symptoms sounded thyroid related, but a week later, when I

got the bloodwork back, he'd not even bothered to run a TSH, which made them

look further. I shudder to think what would have happened if I'd not switched

over into 'bitch mode' and called and got those labs faxed to me. My insistance

to not take this laying down is the only thing that got me treated. This was

after reiving a card in the mail telling me everything was 'just fine'. I was

quite put out with his office by this time, and they very quickly called the lab

and got the tests ran and sure enough......there was a problem. With

hyperT/Graves, it wasn't going to get any better, and dr's consider it dangerous

to be untreated, but getting diagnosed was like nothing I'd ever seen before.

It made me so mad when I thought about that card that said I was just 'fine'

that I wanted to hit somebody in the nose. lol. Everything in my life had

changed and I was fine? uh huh. lol.

If there is one thing I could impress upon people who are suddenly dealing with

a lot of strange symptoms that they are not used to having, it's listen to your

body and don't stop till you find out what is causing the problems. I was

hyperT/Graves when this bozo decided that " I couldn't possibly have a thyroid

problem " which he felt pretty ignorant about later. It's tuff when a dr tells

you it sounds like this, then doesn't even bother to test you after you leave

the office. That is what happened with me. I went from working all week long,

to suddenly having to stay in bed to recoup from working all week. Saturdays

and Sundays, I no longer got out of bed early to get all my errands done, along

with housework. I couldn't hardly function. It was if somebody had fitted me

with a concrete suit and demanded that I trudge around and make myself do what I

had to do. I was so worn out, I couldn't hardly do anything and breathing

became a real chore. Just making it out of bed on sat or sun made me feel like

I was going to just fall over and not get up.

Dr's, I'm convinced only do what we allow them to get away with. They are the

most pompous people I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. But, I always remind

myself of this one thing. Nobody knows my body better than I do, and if

suddenly I have no energy, and am lethargic, sleepy all the time, and can't

function, with pains that are not normal for me, then there is a problem. And

most importantly, I remind myself that all dr's, are only 'practicing' medicine.

Half the time they have no stinking clue what to do, so they just make educated

guesses, and they are always able to make the wrong decision where our health is

concerned. I find that a lot with my pcp who is in a new practice on her own,

and with the 3 endo's I've seen. If it was a toss up between seeing one of

them, or self medicating, I'd have to self medicate and carry on the way I've

been doing. At least it's the one thing that I've done that's been the most

benefit to me. I am as down on dr's as Cindi is. :-)

Seems as if dr's have a reason for everything, like how I'd gained so much

weight, yet I must have been sitting around stuffing myself with candies and

lounging all day long. not! The goofball prolly thought I sat on my butt all

day, never did anything and was depressed. Joke was on him! lol.

SandyE~Houston

Re: Looking for a good understanding

doctor!!!

AMEN again CINDI---this was me too....every freakin' time they did

the blood work, they said oh, it is normal....you just must be

working too hard.(horrid fatigue),you must have a lot of stress in

your life(why my hair was falling out,and chronic dermatitis on my

hands)--anemia,and low blood sugar,(you must not be eating right)--

generally just felt like caa-caa..(oh well, not wonder you are

depressed and exhausted,you have three kids)----now as I have said

before, I am NOT your garden variety wimp...I have worked hard my

entire life(and I enjoy it),played hard too...ran 50mile races for

heavens' sake...but this is something that is impossible to overcome,

without a diagnosis ,and the right replacement dose...jeanne

> according to the doctor. If only I'd had a computer then...and

could have

> researched. This kept happening over the years. I'd ask for

testing and that TSH

> over 2 was always called NORMAL.

> I missed the chance then because I didn't have internet access.

>

]

[Guest guest]

Jeanne, I think the dr's are so used to just putting us off, and honestly,

they'd rather think we're just 'hormonal' or going through the change, or

getting ready to go through the change, or depressed, and the list goes on and

on.

My own pcp told me my symptoms sounded thyroid related, but a week later, when I

got the bloodwork back, he'd not even bothered to run a TSH, which made them

look further. I shudder to think what would have happened if I'd not switched

over into 'bitch mode' and called and got those labs faxed to me. My insistance

to not take this laying down is the only thing that got me treated. This was

after reiving a card in the mail telling me everything was 'just fine'. I was

quite put out with his office by this time, and they very quickly called the lab

and got the tests ran and sure enough......there was a problem. With

hyperT/Graves, it wasn't going to get any better, and dr's consider it dangerous

to be untreated, but getting diagnosed was like nothing I'd ever seen before.

It made me so mad when I thought about that card that said I was just 'fine'

that I wanted to hit somebody in the nose. lol. Everything in my life had

changed and I was fine? uh huh. lol.

If there is one thing I could impress upon people who are suddenly dealing with

a lot of strange symptoms that they are not used to having, it's listen to your

body and don't stop till you find out what is causing the problems. I was

hyperT/Graves when this bozo decided that " I couldn't possibly have a thyroid

problem " which he felt pretty ignorant about later. It's tuff when a dr tells

you it sounds like this, then doesn't even bother to test you after you leave

the office. That is what happened with me. I went from working all week long,

to suddenly having to stay in bed to recoup from working all week. Saturdays

and Sundays, I no longer got out of bed early to get all my errands done, along

with housework. I couldn't hardly function. It was if somebody had fitted me

with a concrete suit and demanded that I trudge around and make myself do what I

had to do. I was so worn out, I couldn't hardly do anything and breathing

became a real chore. Just making it out of bed on sat or sun made me feel like

I was going to just fall over and not get up.

Dr's, I'm convinced only do what we allow them to get away with. They are the

most pompous people I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. But, I always remind

myself of this one thing. Nobody knows my body better than I do, and if

suddenly I have no energy, and am lethargic, sleepy all the time, and can't

function, with pains that are not normal for me, then there is a problem. And

most importantly, I remind myself that all dr's, are only 'practicing' medicine.

Half the time they have no stinking clue what to do, so they just make educated

guesses, and they are always able to make the wrong decision where our health is

concerned. I find that a lot with my pcp who is in a new practice on her own,

and with the 3 endo's I've seen. If it was a toss up between seeing one of

them, or self medicating, I'd have to self medicate and carry on the way I've

been doing. At least it's the one thing that I've done that's been the most

benefit to me. I am as down on dr's as Cindi is. :-)

Seems as if dr's have a reason for everything, like how I'd gained so much

weight, yet I must have been sitting around stuffing myself with candies and

lounging all day long. not! The goofball prolly thought I sat on my butt all

day, never did anything and was depressed. Joke was on him! lol.

SandyE~Houston

Re: Looking for a good understanding

doctor!!!

AMEN again CINDI---this was me too....every freakin' time they did

the blood work, they said oh, it is normal....you just must be

working too hard.(horrid fatigue),you must have a lot of stress in

your life(why my hair was falling out,and chronic dermatitis on my

hands)--anemia,and low blood sugar,(you must not be eating right)--

generally just felt like caa-caa..(oh well, not wonder you are

depressed and exhausted,you have three kids)----now as I have said

before, I am NOT your garden variety wimp...I have worked hard my

entire life(and I enjoy it),played hard too...ran 50mile races for

heavens' sake...but this is something that is impossible to overcome,

without a diagnosis ,and the right replacement dose...jeanne

> according to the doctor. If only I'd had a computer then...and

could have

> researched. This kept happening over the years. I'd ask for

testing and that TSH

> over 2 was always called NORMAL.

> I missed the chance then because I didn't have internet access.

>

]

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/4/2005 1:00:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

oceangypsey@... writes:

> .(horrid fatigue),you must have a lot of stress in

> your life(why my hair was falling out,and chronic dermatitis on my

> hands)--anemia,and low blood sugar,(you must not be eating right)--

> generally just felt like caa-caa

caa-caa is exactly what it was.

I was a single mom then..and i can remember taking No-Doz pills around 3 in

the afternoon so I would have the energy to feed and bathe my child when I got

home from work. Later on, getting worried the no-doz were making me irritable

(it was probably that and the Hashi's), I stopped taking them. But then i

came home and had to take a short nap before i could do anything.

But what gets me...is I TOLD them I thought it was thyroid. And after I saw

my mom's autopsy report in 1994, I told them about her fibrous thyroid gland

and nodules and adrenal hyperplasia - and I swear to you - two doctors that I

told this too when I was asking them to test my thyroid - they just looked at

me with blank stares....and then later said " your TSH is normal " .

Everytime a new person comes on this forum and says " they said my labs were

NORMAL " ....I think my blood pressure rises.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/4/2005 1:00:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

oceangypsey@... writes:

> .(horrid fatigue),you must have a lot of stress in

> your life(why my hair was falling out,and chronic dermatitis on my

> hands)--anemia,and low blood sugar,(you must not be eating right)--

> generally just felt like caa-caa

caa-caa is exactly what it was.

I was a single mom then..and i can remember taking No-Doz pills around 3 in

the afternoon so I would have the energy to feed and bathe my child when I got

home from work. Later on, getting worried the no-doz were making me irritable

(it was probably that and the Hashi's), I stopped taking them. But then i

came home and had to take a short nap before i could do anything.

But what gets me...is I TOLD them I thought it was thyroid. And after I saw

my mom's autopsy report in 1994, I told them about her fibrous thyroid gland

and nodules and adrenal hyperplasia - and I swear to you - two doctors that I

told this too when I was asking them to test my thyroid - they just looked at

me with blank stares....and then later said " your TSH is normal " .

Everytime a new person comes on this forum and says " they said my labs were

NORMAL " ....I think my blood pressure rises.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/4/2005 3:40:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

oceangypsey@... writes:

> I cannot believe I AM ADMITTING THIS FOR THE FIRST

> TIME....but Cindi...you made me come undone.....for the last two

> years before being diagnosed...I actually was taking metabolife,once

> a day in the afternoon to keep myself awake and going....so STUPID!!!-

confession is good for the soul.

actually - I've never admitted my previous No-Doz (and Vivarin) habit until I

got diagnosed hypo. I was ASHAMED. but now i totally understand why i

needed that boost.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/4/2005 3:40:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

oceangypsey@... writes:

> I cannot believe I AM ADMITTING THIS FOR THE FIRST

> TIME....but Cindi...you made me come undone.....for the last two

> years before being diagnosed...I actually was taking metabolife,once

> a day in the afternoon to keep myself awake and going....so STUPID!!!-

confession is good for the soul.

actually - I've never admitted my previous No-Doz (and Vivarin) habit until I

got diagnosed hypo. I was ASHAMED. but now i totally understand why i

needed that boost.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/4/2005 3:40:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

oceangypsey@... writes:

> I cannot believe I AM ADMITTING THIS FOR THE FIRST

> TIME....but Cindi...you made me come undone.....for the last two

> years before being diagnosed...I actually was taking metabolife,once

> a day in the afternoon to keep myself awake and going....so STUPID!!!-

confession is good for the soul.

actually - I've never admitted my previous No-Doz (and Vivarin) habit until I

got diagnosed hypo. I was ASHAMED. but now i totally understand why i

needed that boost.

Cindi

[Guest guest]

:YA'know WE NEED TO START A REVOULUTION.....er...maybe we already

have*smile*--I cannot believe I AM ADMITTING THIS FOR THE FIRST

TIME....but Cindi...you made me come undone.....for the last two

years before being diagnosed...I actually was taking metabolife,once

a day in the afternoon to keep myself awake and going....so STUPID!!!-

-but could not figure out why I was feeling sooo bad....and the docs

of course just said.... " well now,your ARE getting older.....and you

are really busy.... " ---I only took one once a day..and really felt

guilt about that....but seriously felt like I needed it to get

by....and I knew it was not smart,even at the time.....why did I just

not believe in myself and fight to get diagnosed?---you know

why...because at that point I was too beaten down..and really began

to believe these idiots.....pathetic....jeanne

>

> > .(horrid fatigue),you must have a lot of stress in

> > your life(why my hair was falling out,and chronic dermatitis on

my

> > hands)--anemia,and low blood sugar,(you must not be eating right)-

-

> > generally just felt like caa-caa

>

> caa-caa is exactly what it was.

> I was a single mom then..and i can remember taking No-Doz pills

around 3 in

> the afternoon so I would have the energy to feed and bathe my child

when I got

> home from work. Later on, getting worried the no-doz were making

me irritable

> (it was probably that and the Hashi's), I stopped taking them. But

then i

> came home and had to take a short nap before i could do anything.

> But what gets me...is I TOLD them I thought it was thyroid. And

after I saw

> my mom's autopsy report in 1994, I told them about her fibrous

thyroid gland

> and nodules and adrenal hyperplasia - and I swear to you - two

doctors that I

> told this too when I was asking them to test my thyroid - they just

looked at

> me with blank stares....and then later said " your TSH is normal " .

> Everytime a new person comes on this forum and says " they said my

labs were

> NORMAL " ....I think my blood pressure rises.

> Cindi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

:YA'know WE NEED TO START A REVOULUTION.....er...maybe we already

have*smile*--I cannot believe I AM ADMITTING THIS FOR THE FIRST

TIME....but Cindi...you made me come undone.....for the last two

years before being diagnosed...I actually was taking metabolife,once

a day in the afternoon to keep myself awake and going....so STUPID!!!-

-but could not figure out why I was feeling sooo bad....and the docs

of course just said.... " well now,your ARE getting older.....and you

are really busy.... " ---I only took one once a day..and really felt

guilt about that....but seriously felt like I needed it to get

by....and I knew it was not smart,even at the time.....why did I just

not believe in myself and fight to get diagnosed?---you know

why...because at that point I was too beaten down..and really began

to believe these idiots.....pathetic....jeanne

>

> > .(horrid fatigue),you must have a lot of stress in

> > your life(why my hair was falling out,and chronic dermatitis on

my

> > hands)--anemia,and low blood sugar,(you must not be eating right)-

-

> > generally just felt like caa-caa

>

> caa-caa is exactly what it was.

> I was a single mom then..and i can remember taking No-Doz pills

around 3 in

> the afternoon so I would have the energy to feed and bathe my child

when I got

> home from work. Later on, getting worried the no-doz were making

me irritable

> (it was probably that and the Hashi's), I stopped taking them. But

then i

> came home and had to take a short nap before i could do anything.

> But what gets me...is I TOLD them I thought it was thyroid. And

after I saw

> my mom's autopsy report in 1994, I told them about her fibrous

thyroid gland

> and nodules and adrenal hyperplasia - and I swear to you - two

doctors that I

> told this too when I was asking them to test my thyroid - they just

looked at

> me with blank stares....and then later said " your TSH is normal " .

> Everytime a new person comes on this forum and says " they said my

labs were

> NORMAL " ....I think my blood pressure rises.

> Cindi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What else could you have done? Janie wasn't here? Get louder? Get

committed? The system defends its ignorant abuse of women (pardon me

boys) and hypo is predominantly regarded as a woman's problem (sorry,

again, fellas). Waste energy you didn't have in the first place

arguing with the self-righteous, delusional white-coats?

I think that the white-coats have entirely overplayed their hand and

it's just a matter of time before folks like us (with every

untreated/undertreaded/mistreated malady) are tired of having to try

to get services from Bozos and we finally figure out the way we

should have been treated and get what we want/need.

....

>because at that point I was too beaten down..and really began

>to believe these idiots.....pathetic....jeanne

[Guest guest]

What else could you have done? Janie wasn't here? Get louder? Get

committed? The system defends its ignorant abuse of women (pardon me

boys) and hypo is predominantly regarded as a woman's problem (sorry,

again, fellas). Waste energy you didn't have in the first place

arguing with the self-righteous, delusional white-coats?

I think that the white-coats have entirely overplayed their hand and

it's just a matter of time before folks like us (with every

untreated/undertreaded/mistreated malady) are tired of having to try

to get services from Bozos and we finally figure out the way we

should have been treated and get what we want/need.

....

>because at that point I was too beaten down..and really began

>to believe these idiots.....pathetic....jeanne

[Guest guest]

What else could you have done? Janie wasn't here? Get louder? Get

committed? The system defends its ignorant abuse of women (pardon me

boys) and hypo is predominantly regarded as a woman's problem (sorry,

again, fellas). Waste energy you didn't have in the first place

arguing with the self-righteous, delusional white-coats?

I think that the white-coats have entirely overplayed their hand and

it's just a matter of time before folks like us (with every

untreated/undertreaded/mistreated malady) are tired of having to try

to get services from Bozos and we finally figure out the way we

should have been treated and get what we want/need.

....

>because at that point I was too beaten down..and really began

>to believe these idiots.....pathetic....jeanne

[Guest guest]

I know I am slow on this post, and someone has

probably already suggested this. BUT, I would call the

state board that controls doctors in your state and

complain.

Kerry

--- Betty Flager betty_flager@...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Betty, no can laugh....I am in the same situation

> as you are...and

> > from what I have been reading ,so are a lot of

> others here.....I

> have

> > been on the phone all morning trying to find

> someone new....as of

> > next week when the endo I HAVE been seeing finds

> out I have

> increased

> > to 3-1/2 grains , I KNOW that will be it

> there...so just biding my

> > time,trying to get a jump start on the next

> candidate to give me

> > ARMOUR --and enuff to heal my broken body....not

> just enuff to let

> me

> > suffer and die a slow agonizing death....sound

> dramatic...??---I

> AM

> > SERIOUS...jeanne

> > >

> > > Is there anyone here that lives in the Southwest

> Missouri area

> that

> > > can recommend a good doc. One that will listen

> to your symptoms

> and

> > > not just LAB RESULTS?

> > >

> > > Am betting I won't get an answer here. I could

> be wrong. One

> that

> > > will understand that you had to take it upon

> yourself to keep

> from

> > > slowly dying from lack of thyroid hormone.

> > >

> > > If you feel like laughing to this question, go

> ahead. Ha! Ha!

> Will

> > > the doctor start me on a very low dose and keep

> it that low

> forever?

> > > Hmmmm!! What a mess.

>

> Yes that is why I am really hesitant about finding a

> doctor. I get

> to thinking " are they going to give me enough meds?

> So, then I just

> put it out of my mind.

> My husband will say " you need to find a doctor " . Now

> he understands

> what is going on.

>

> I recently got my bloodtests done(knowing I am hypo

> again) Sure

> enough the ft4 was low(below the middle of the

> range). I called them

> and told them my symptoms. The son of a you know

> whats didn't even

> call me back. Is that not caring or what?

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dr Tipu Sultan

Florissant, Missouri (outside of St. Louis)

Is he too far north for you?

Looking for a good understanding doctor!!!

Is there anyone here that lives in the Southwest Missouri area that

can recommend a good doc. One that will listen to your symptoms and

not just LAB RESULTS?

Am betting I won't get an answer here. I could be wrong. One that

will understand that you had to take it upon yourself to keep from

slowly dying from lack of thyroid hormone.

If you feel like laughing to this question, go ahead. Ha! Ha! Will

the doctor start me on a very low dose and keep it that low forever?

Hmmmm!! What a mess.

[Guest guest]

Dr Tipu Sultan

Florissant, Missouri (outside of St. Louis)

Is he too far north for you?

Looking for a good understanding doctor!!!

Is there anyone here that lives in the Southwest Missouri area that

can recommend a good doc. One that will listen to your symptoms and

not just LAB RESULTS?

Am betting I won't get an answer here. I could be wrong. One that

will understand that you had to take it upon yourself to keep from

slowly dying from lack of thyroid hormone.

If you feel like laughing to this question, go ahead. Ha! Ha! Will

the doctor start me on a very low dose and keep it that low forever?

Hmmmm!! What a mess.

[Guest guest]

Dr Tipu Sultan

Florissant, Missouri (outside of St. Louis)

Is he too far north for you?

Looking for a good understanding doctor!!!

Is there anyone here that lives in the Southwest Missouri area that

can recommend a good doc. One that will listen to your symptoms and

not just LAB RESULTS?

Am betting I won't get an answer here. I could be wrong. One that

will understand that you had to take it upon yourself to keep from

slowly dying from lack of thyroid hormone.

If you feel like laughing to this question, go ahead. Ha! Ha! Will

the doctor start me on a very low dose and keep it that low forever?

Hmmmm!! What a mess.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Pam, I live about 40 miles north of Joplin, Mo. Oh, one of these days I

will find my understanding doctor. As they say " it is like looking for a needle

in a haystack " . I have my own medicine right now so I am not too

desperate.Heee!!

Thanks for your help and reply

THINK SPRING!!!!

Pam thluce@...> wrote:

Dr Tipu Sultan

Florissant, Missouri (outside of St. Louis)

Is he too far north for you?

Looking for a good understanding doctor!!!

Is there anyone here that lives in the Southwest Missouri area that

can recommend a good doc. One that will listen to your symptoms and

not just LAB RESULTS?

Am betting I won't get an answer here. I could be wrong. One that

will understand that you had to take it upon yourself to keep from

slowly dying from lack of thyroid hormone.

If you feel like laughing to this question, go ahead. Ha! Ha! Will

the doctor start me on a very low dose and keep it that low forever?

Hmmmm!! What a mess.

[Guest guest]

That sounds like a great idea Kerry. The thought definitely crossed my mind. I

think the problem with most doctors is they didn't get enough training about

thyroid. I would like to go to an endo but geees that cost money that I don't

have. Also, I would sure hate to spend all that money and they wouldn't do a

thing for me. I don't think I could handle another disappointment after seeing

three doctors. I might have a nervous breakdown or might end up in jail after

giving the doctor a black eye. Heee!! that is pretty farfetched huh???

Kerry klb58@...> wrote:I know I am slow on this post, and someone has

probably already suggested this. BUT, I would call the

state board that controls doctors in your state and

complain.

Kerry

--- Betty Flager betty_flager@...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Betty, no can laugh....I am in the same situation

> as you are...and

> > from what I have been reading ,so are a lot of

> others here.....I

> have

> > been on the phone all morning trying to find

> someone new....as of

> > next week when the endo I HAVE been seeing finds

> out I have

> increased

> > to 3-1/2 grains , I KNOW that will be it

> there...so just biding my

> > time,trying to get a jump start on the next

> candidate to give me

> > ARMOUR --and enuff to heal my broken body....not

> just enuff to let

> me

> > suffer and die a slow agonizing death....sound

> dramatic...??---I

> AM

> > SERIOUS...jeanne

> > >

> > > Is there anyone here that lives in the Southwest

> Missouri area

> that

> > > can recommend a good doc. One that will listen

> to your symptoms

> and

> > > not just LAB RESULTS?

> > >

> > > Am betting I won't get an answer here. I could

> be wrong. One

> that

> > > will understand that you had to take it upon

> yourself to keep

> from

> > > slowly dying from lack of thyroid hormone.

> > >

> > > If you feel like laughing to this question, go

> ahead. Ha! Ha!

> Will

> > > the doctor start me on a very low dose and keep

> it that low

> forever?

> > > Hmmmm!! What a mess.

>

> Yes that is why I am really hesitant about finding a

> doctor. I get

> to thinking " are they going to give me enough meds?

> So, then I just

> put it out of my mind.

> My husband will say " you need to find a doctor " . Now

> he understands

> what is going on.

>

> I recently got my bloodtests done(knowing I am hypo

> again) Sure

> enough the ft4 was low(below the middle of the

> range). I called them

> and told them my symptoms. The son of a you know

> whats didn't even

> call me back. Is that not caring or what?

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

That sounds like a great idea Kerry. The thought definitely crossed my mind. I

think the problem with most doctors is they didn't get enough training about

thyroid. I would like to go to an endo but geees that cost money that I don't

have. Also, I would sure hate to spend all that money and they wouldn't do a

thing for me. I don't think I could handle another disappointment after seeing

three doctors. I might have a nervous breakdown or might end up in jail after

giving the doctor a black eye. Heee!! that is pretty farfetched huh???

Kerry klb58@...> wrote:I know I am slow on this post, and someone has

probably already suggested this. BUT, I would call the

state board that controls doctors in your state and

complain.

Kerry

--- Betty Flager betty_flager@...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Betty, no can laugh....I am in the same situation

> as you are...and

> > from what I have been reading ,so are a lot of

> others here.....I

> have

> > been on the phone all morning trying to find

> someone new....as of

> > next week when the endo I HAVE been seeing finds

> out I have

> increased

> > to 3-1/2 grains , I KNOW that will be it

> there...so just biding my

> > time,trying to get a jump start on the next

> candidate to give me

> > ARMOUR --and enuff to heal my broken body....not

> just enuff to let

> me

> > suffer and die a slow agonizing death....sound

> dramatic...??---I

> AM

> > SERIOUS...jeanne

> > >

> > > Is there anyone here that lives in the Southwest

> Missouri area

> that

> > > can recommend a good doc. One that will listen

> to your symptoms

> and

> > > not just LAB RESULTS?

> > >

> > > Am betting I won't get an answer here. I could

> be wrong. One

> that

> > > will understand that you had to take it upon

> yourself to keep

> from

> > > slowly dying from lack of thyroid hormone.

> > >

> > > If you feel like laughing to this question, go

> ahead. Ha! Ha!

> Will

> > > the doctor start me on a very low dose and keep

> it that low

> forever?

> > > Hmmmm!! What a mess.

>

> Yes that is why I am really hesitant about finding a

> doctor. I get

> to thinking " are they going to give me enough meds?

> So, then I just

> put it out of my mind.

> My husband will say " you need to find a doctor " . Now

> he understands

> what is going on.

>

> I recently got my bloodtests done(knowing I am hypo

> again) Sure

> enough the ft4 was low(below the middle of the

> range). I called them

> and told them my symptoms. The son of a you know

> whats didn't even

> call me back. Is that not caring or what?

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

That sounds like a great idea Kerry. The thought definitely crossed my mind. I

think the problem with most doctors is they didn't get enough training about

thyroid. I would like to go to an endo but geees that cost money that I don't

have. Also, I would sure hate to spend all that money and they wouldn't do a

thing for me. I don't think I could handle another disappointment after seeing

three doctors. I might have a nervous breakdown or might end up in jail after

giving the doctor a black eye. Heee!! that is pretty farfetched huh???

Kerry klb58@...> wrote:I know I am slow on this post, and someone has

probably already suggested this. BUT, I would call the

state board that controls doctors in your state and

complain.

Kerry

--- Betty Flager betty_flager@...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Betty, no can laugh....I am in the same situation

> as you are...and

> > from what I have been reading ,so are a lot of

> others here.....I

> have

> > been on the phone all morning trying to find

> someone new....as of

> > next week when the endo I HAVE been seeing finds

> out I have

> increased

> > to 3-1/2 grains , I KNOW that will be it

> there...so just biding my

> > time,trying to get a jump start on the next

> candidate to give me

> > ARMOUR --and enuff to heal my broken body....not

> just enuff to let

> me

> > suffer and die a slow agonizing death....sound

> dramatic...??---I

> AM

> > SERIOUS...jeanne

> > >

> > > Is there anyone here that lives in the Southwest

> Missouri area

> that

> > > can recommend a good doc. One that will listen

> to your symptoms

> and

> > > not just LAB RESULTS?

> > >

> > > Am betting I won't get an answer here. I could

> be wrong. One

> that

> > > will understand that you had to take it upon

> yourself to keep

> from

> > > slowly dying from lack of thyroid hormone.

> > >

> > > If you feel like laughing to this question, go

> ahead. Ha! Ha!

> Will

> > > the doctor start me on a very low dose and keep

> it that low

> forever?

> > > Hmmmm!! What a mess.

>

> Yes that is why I am really hesitant about finding a

> doctor. I get

> to thinking " are they going to give me enough meds?

> So, then I just

> put it out of my mind.

> My husband will say " you need to find a doctor " . Now

> he understands

> what is going on.

>

> I recently got my bloodtests done(knowing I am hypo

> again) Sure

> enough the ft4 was low(below the middle of the

> range). I called them

> and told them my symptoms. The son of a you know

> whats didn't even

> call me back. Is that not caring or what?

>

>

>

>

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