question

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I had Thyroid Cancer surgery in 1979. My Fibro symptoms started in the early

80's.

{{{Hugs}}}

Jacqui

Question

Just trying to find a link, How many people have had any type of

surgery prior to having fibro?

[Guest guest]

> I hadn't had surgery prior to having FMS.

>

> On that note, however, I was wondering how many of us

are/were " type

> A " personalities, general overachievers, worry-warts, etc. I grew

up

> very fast when I was still pretty young, and sometimes I wonder if

my

> body just couldn't keep up with the demands I've put on it,

> physically, mentally and emotionally. Any thoughts on this?

I had a D&C slightly before the bigger symptoms came on, but was

having dizziness and diorientation problems which may have been

related to FMS symptoms...only other surgery type things were the

birth of my daughter in '89, and a broken arm when I was 8...LoL!

As for Type " A " ...yesssss!

I think my symptoms popped up during an almost " breakdown " from my

current workplace. I am a veterinary technician at a small but VERY

busy practice (see about 1-2oo clients per week, plus assisted in 30-

40 surgeries/week, and 3-4 emergency afterhours surgeries that lasted

til at least 9pm /week)

I was the ONLY vettech there for about 9 months, logging in anywhere

from 52-62 hours per week, no lunch breaks, standing, running,

lifting all the time and alternating 13 days workweeks with 6 day

workweeks. Plus a full time family, including aniamls kid and

husband...ha!

If I sit down for any amount of time, such as to watch a movie (which

is rare I actually sit thru the whole thing,) I fall asleep!

Even in a flare, I am up and down...

Type A all the way!!

R

[Guest guest]

> I hadn't had surgery prior to having FMS.

>

> On that note, however, I was wondering how many of us

are/were " type

> A " personalities, general overachievers, worry-warts, etc. I grew

up

> very fast when I was still pretty young, and sometimes I wonder if

my

> body just couldn't keep up with the demands I've put on it,

> physically, mentally and emotionally. Any thoughts on this?

I had a D&C slightly before the bigger symptoms came on, but was

having dizziness and diorientation problems which may have been

related to FMS symptoms...only other surgery type things were the

birth of my daughter in '89, and a broken arm when I was 8...LoL!

As for Type " A " ...yesssss!

I think my symptoms popped up during an almost " breakdown " from my

current workplace. I am a veterinary technician at a small but VERY

busy practice (see about 1-2oo clients per week, plus assisted in 30-

40 surgeries/week, and 3-4 emergency afterhours surgeries that lasted

til at least 9pm /week)

I was the ONLY vettech there for about 9 months, logging in anywhere

from 52-62 hours per week, no lunch breaks, standing, running,

lifting all the time and alternating 13 days workweeks with 6 day

workweeks. Plus a full time family, including aniamls kid and

husband...ha!

If I sit down for any amount of time, such as to watch a movie (which

is rare I actually sit thru the whole thing,) I fall asleep!

Even in a flare, I am up and down...

Type A all the way!!

R

[Guest guest]

> I hadn't had surgery prior to having FMS.

>

> On that note, however, I was wondering how many of us

are/were " type

> A " personalities, general overachievers, worry-warts, etc. I grew

up

> very fast when I was still pretty young, and sometimes I wonder if

my

> body just couldn't keep up with the demands I've put on it,

> physically, mentally and emotionally. Any thoughts on this?

I had a D&C slightly before the bigger symptoms came on, but was

having dizziness and diorientation problems which may have been

related to FMS symptoms...only other surgery type things were the

birth of my daughter in '89, and a broken arm when I was 8...LoL!

As for Type " A " ...yesssss!

I think my symptoms popped up during an almost " breakdown " from my

current workplace. I am a veterinary technician at a small but VERY

busy practice (see about 1-2oo clients per week, plus assisted in 30-

40 surgeries/week, and 3-4 emergency afterhours surgeries that lasted

til at least 9pm /week)

I was the ONLY vettech there for about 9 months, logging in anywhere

from 52-62 hours per week, no lunch breaks, standing, running,

lifting all the time and alternating 13 days workweeks with 6 day

workweeks. Plus a full time family, including aniamls kid and

husband...ha!

If I sit down for any amount of time, such as to watch a movie (which

is rare I actually sit thru the whole thing,) I fall asleep!

Even in a flare, I am up and down...

Type A all the way!!

R

[Guest guest]

> Just trying to find a link, How many people have had any type of

> > surgery prior to having fibro?

>

I haven't had any surgeries or car wrecks, but I was raped at 16 yrs old by a

good friend (use to be) and the docs told me that is what sat the FMS in.

Allicia

[Guest guest]

I did I had a hysterectomy and then I started keeping my grandson, and I was

having all this pain in my neck and shoulders, I though it was from picking him

up, but I kept going to the Dr. and he would give me some pills and it would get

better for a couple of weeks and then it would start again, so one day when I

was there he said it sound like you have fibromyalgia, and you need to exercise

at least 15 min. a day,silly me, I thought that was all there was to this, so I

did that and it didn't work I just kept getting worse. Well it has been over 5

years and this stuff does get worse, I am worse now that I was 5 years ago, but

I am 5 years older too. I try to take one day at a time, but it seems like they

are somethings to deal with every day, I was up and down all night with real bad

stomach cramps, and running to the bathroom and now I am so tired. I think I

will rest today, Audie

Question

Just trying to find a link, How many people have had any type of

surgery prior to having fibro?

[Guest guest]

I did I had a hysterectomy and then I started keeping my grandson, and I was

having all this pain in my neck and shoulders, I though it was from picking him

up, but I kept going to the Dr. and he would give me some pills and it would get

better for a couple of weeks and then it would start again, so one day when I

was there he said it sound like you have fibromyalgia, and you need to exercise

at least 15 min. a day,silly me, I thought that was all there was to this, so I

did that and it didn't work I just kept getting worse. Well it has been over 5

years and this stuff does get worse, I am worse now that I was 5 years ago, but

I am 5 years older too. I try to take one day at a time, but it seems like they

are somethings to deal with every day, I was up and down all night with real bad

stomach cramps, and running to the bathroom and now I am so tired. I think I

will rest today, Audie

Question

Just trying to find a link, How many people have had any type of

surgery prior to having fibro?

[Guest guest]

I did I had a hysterectomy and then I started keeping my grandson, and I was

having all this pain in my neck and shoulders, I though it was from picking him

up, but I kept going to the Dr. and he would give me some pills and it would get

better for a couple of weeks and then it would start again, so one day when I

was there he said it sound like you have fibromyalgia, and you need to exercise

at least 15 min. a day,silly me, I thought that was all there was to this, so I

did that and it didn't work I just kept getting worse. Well it has been over 5

years and this stuff does get worse, I am worse now that I was 5 years ago, but

I am 5 years older too. I try to take one day at a time, but it seems like they

are somethings to deal with every day, I was up and down all night with real bad

stomach cramps, and running to the bathroom and now I am so tired. I think I

will rest today, Audie

Question

Just trying to find a link, How many people have had any type of

surgery prior to having fibro?

[Guest guest]

Fibro set in after having the back portion of my cranium removed. I think

they crossed my positive and negitive wires when the sewed me back together!

LOL

Missy

> Just trying to find a link, How many people have had any type of

> > > surgery prior to having fibro?

>

[Guest guest]

Fibro set in after having the back portion of my cranium removed. I think

they crossed my positive and negitive wires when the sewed me back together!

LOL

Missy

> Just trying to find a link, How many people have had any type of

> > > surgery prior to having fibro?

>

[Guest guest]

Fibro set in after having the back portion of my cranium removed. I think

they crossed my positive and negitive wires when the sewed me back together!

LOL

Missy

> Just trying to find a link, How many people have had any type of

> > > surgery prior to having fibro?

>

[Guest guest]

Peace sister,

I have had several surgeries due to congenital defects that included open

heart surgery, eye surgery, a hysteroplasty and finally a hysterectomy.

Over my lifetime I have received multiple blood transfusions, the last being

when I lost my first son and the placenta would not detach and was left to

bleed out through the night because the physician did not want to come in at

midnight to do a D&C. Instead he ordered 6 units of blood until he could

get in in the morning.

As a Air Force brat I received multiple vaccinations then again when

attending Nursing school.

Before my open heart surgery I suffered with and survived rheumatic fever,

scarlet fever and endocarditis.

I feel between the blood transfusions, multiple vaccinations, fevers and

infection in my heart my immune system has been greatly compromised and this

is what has contributed to my FMS.

I used to be a type A personality. I think you would have to be to survive

the life threatening diseases and defects I did. But just before turning 40

my spiritual journey led me to a retreat with Thich Nhat Hanh ( a Zen

Buddhist monk) and learned mindful living, mindful meditation and committed

to the 5 mindful trainings where I received my Dharma name " Peaceful Life of

the Heart " . Since then I have learned to quiet myself, stay calm and not

allow things to get to me.

Breathe and :-)

Natural Paths

http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea

MyrrhSea FibreCraft

http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea/mfc.html

.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.

She seeketh wool and flax and worketh willingly

with her hands. ~Proverbs 31:13~

Re: Question

Hi ,

I had Thyroid Cancer surgery in 1979. My Fibro symptoms started in the early

80's.

{{{Hugs}}}

Jacqui

Question

Just trying to find a link, How many people have had any type of

surgery prior to having fibro?

[Guest guest]

,

I never had any surgery before a specific period of time I could say the

Fibro just came on. In fact, I don't have my actual diagnosis yet. But I can

look back and see the symptoms coming on for years and years. I don't think I

can pin point any specific time other than it's been gradual and constant for

about 10-15 years. During that time I had 3 D$C's for miscarriages, and I had

another D&C and a tonsilectomy.

If we are looking for possible causes, they say trauma is a possible cause.

I grew up with a physically abusive dad, and then married an abusive husband.

The abuse issues have been worked out after 17 years of marriage and a few times

of throwing his butt in jail. But if post traumatic stress has anything to do

with it, I certainly have enough reasons in my past. They also think it could

be tied to childbirth and I have had 4 children plus 3 miscarriages. That could

certainly explain why this happens to so many woman. They talk about car

accidents too and I have been in 2 minor fender benders so who knows?

ttyl

Suzi

[Guest guest]

,

I never had any surgery before a specific period of time I could say the

Fibro just came on. In fact, I don't have my actual diagnosis yet. But I can

look back and see the symptoms coming on for years and years. I don't think I

can pin point any specific time other than it's been gradual and constant for

about 10-15 years. During that time I had 3 D$C's for miscarriages, and I had

another D&C and a tonsilectomy.

If we are looking for possible causes, they say trauma is a possible cause.

I grew up with a physically abusive dad, and then married an abusive husband.

The abuse issues have been worked out after 17 years of marriage and a few times

of throwing his butt in jail. But if post traumatic stress has anything to do

with it, I certainly have enough reasons in my past. They also think it could

be tied to childbirth and I have had 4 children plus 3 miscarriages. That could

certainly explain why this happens to so many woman. They talk about car

accidents too and I have been in 2 minor fender benders so who knows?

ttyl

Suzi

[Guest guest]

,

I never had any surgery before a specific period of time I could say the

Fibro just came on. In fact, I don't have my actual diagnosis yet. But I can

look back and see the symptoms coming on for years and years. I don't think I

can pin point any specific time other than it's been gradual and constant for

about 10-15 years. During that time I had 3 D$C's for miscarriages, and I had

another D&C and a tonsilectomy.

If we are looking for possible causes, they say trauma is a possible cause.

I grew up with a physically abusive dad, and then married an abusive husband.

The abuse issues have been worked out after 17 years of marriage and a few times

of throwing his butt in jail. But if post traumatic stress has anything to do

with it, I certainly have enough reasons in my past. They also think it could

be tied to childbirth and I have had 4 children plus 3 miscarriages. That could

certainly explain why this happens to so many woman. They talk about car

accidents too and I have been in 2 minor fender benders so who knows?

ttyl

Suzi

[Guest guest]

I would definately say I am a type A personality. When I started my

daycare I immediately started doing it 24 hours per day 7 days per week. For 15

years I only averaged 2-3 days off per year and I took only one vacation during

those 15 years. I cared for literally hundreds of children through the years

averaging about 15-20 children on the books at any one time between the 3

shifts, part and full timers. I quit the daycare when we moved here and started

putting a garden in. I have been averaging about 3-5 hours per day out there

the last few weeks, but was out there 6-8 hours per day the first couple of

weeks. I try to make myself slow down, but I just don't know how. During my

years of daycare, I would find family and friends to help out so that I could

try other things as well. I became a licensed insurance sales person, licensed

real estate agent, and sold just about every type of home business product I

could find.

This is a real problem for me. I am so afraid that this illness is going to

stop me from doing what I do. It's becoming harder and harder to water my

garden and it's so big now that it takes 3 hours minimum to do that in this

desert heat. I took up mosaicing and today my husband told me he wants the big

piece I am working on done by this weekend. I told him there is no way because

my hands hurt so bad right now. He told me that I just needed to do it anyway.

I am so mad at his attitude right now! Sometimes I think I just want to run

away and check into this little church run shelter for woman and children and

just never come out. If only I didn't have my 2 year old that needs me so much.

My other children could probably care less since they are all in that selfish

teenage phase.

So do you all think that we can find a way out of this mess by altering our

minds and our lifestyles?

ttyl

Suzi

[Guest guest]

I would definately say I am a type A personality. When I started my

daycare I immediately started doing it 24 hours per day 7 days per week. For 15

years I only averaged 2-3 days off per year and I took only one vacation during

those 15 years. I cared for literally hundreds of children through the years

averaging about 15-20 children on the books at any one time between the 3

shifts, part and full timers. I quit the daycare when we moved here and started

putting a garden in. I have been averaging about 3-5 hours per day out there

the last few weeks, but was out there 6-8 hours per day the first couple of

weeks. I try to make myself slow down, but I just don't know how. During my

years of daycare, I would find family and friends to help out so that I could

try other things as well. I became a licensed insurance sales person, licensed

real estate agent, and sold just about every type of home business product I

could find.

This is a real problem for me. I am so afraid that this illness is going to

stop me from doing what I do. It's becoming harder and harder to water my

garden and it's so big now that it takes 3 hours minimum to do that in this

desert heat. I took up mosaicing and today my husband told me he wants the big

piece I am working on done by this weekend. I told him there is no way because

my hands hurt so bad right now. He told me that I just needed to do it anyway.

I am so mad at his attitude right now! Sometimes I think I just want to run

away and check into this little church run shelter for woman and children and

just never come out. If only I didn't have my 2 year old that needs me so much.

My other children could probably care less since they are all in that selfish

teenage phase.

So do you all think that we can find a way out of this mess by altering our

minds and our lifestyles?

ttyl

Suzi

[Guest guest]

I have had three children and on all three, I had

placenta previa, where the placenta breaks apart and

falls, all children I bled with, my water never broke.

The first though they took vaginally, the second due

to heavy bleeding had to come c section. After the

second child, I lost a child, then had my third child,

my little girl. She was called " the miracle baby " by

my gyno doctor. I went into work that day, it was a

month before my due date, started feeling very

fatigue, and I guess I went ghostly white because the

man I worked with at the time just looked at me, and

called the office manager to come down and check on

me, I hadnt said anything to them about feeling bad

even though I was, but by the time the managaer got

down to check on me, I had started bleeding. They

rushed me to the hospital,(got pulled over by the

cops...speeding)and 20 minutes later they were doing

the c-section, she was coming backwards, I was

bleeding awfully, so they took her. Then two years

later I had to have a hysterectomy due to awful pain

constantly and heavy bleeding. I've had two previous

cysts removed from my ovaries between the children as

well.

I have always been border line anemic. I had to take

extra iron when pregnant, which resulted in stool

softeners as well. I was an awful pregnant

person...very ill, very sick, 9 months of agony

but...when I look at my children today, playing,

smiling and bringing peace and happiness to my

life...it was all worth it.

Well, that's my stories.

a Faye

--- Peaceful Life of the Heart

myrrhsea@...> wrote:

> Peace sister,

>

> I have had several surgeries due to congenital

> defects that included open

> heart surgery, eye surgery, a hysteroplasty and

> finally a hysterectomy.

> Over my lifetime I have received multiple blood

> transfusions, the last being

> when I lost my first son and the placenta would not

> detach and was left to

> bleed out through the night because the physician

> did not want to come in at

> midnight to do a D&C. Instead he ordered 6 units of

> blood until he could

> get in in the morning.

>

> As a Air Force brat I received multiple vaccinations

> then again when

> attending Nursing school.

>

> Before my open heart surgery I suffered with and

> survived rheumatic fever,

> scarlet fever and endocarditis.

>

> I feel between the blood transfusions, multiple

> vaccinations, fevers and

> infection in my heart my immune system has been

> greatly compromised and this

> is what has contributed to my FMS.

>

> I used to be a type A personality. I think you

> would have to be to survive

> the life threatening diseases and defects I did.

> But just before turning 40

> my spiritual journey led me to a retreat with Thich

> Nhat Hanh ( a Zen

> Buddhist monk) and learned mindful living, mindful

> meditation and committed

> to the 5 mindful trainings where I received my

> Dharma name " Peaceful Life of

> the Heart " . Since then I have learned to quiet

> myself, stay calm and not

> allow things to get to me.

>

> Breathe and :-)

> Natural Paths

> http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea

> MyrrhSea FibreCraft

> http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea/mfc.html

> .:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.

> She seeketh wool and flax and worketh willingly

> with her hands. ~Proverbs 31:13~

>

>

> Re: Question

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I had Thyroid Cancer surgery in 1979. My Fibro

> symptoms started in the early

> 80's.

>

> {{{Hugs}}}

> Jacqui

>

> Question

>

>

> Just trying to find a link, How many people have

> had any type of

> surgery prior to having fibro?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have had three children and on all three, I had

placenta previa, where the placenta breaks apart and

falls, all children I bled with, my water never broke.

The first though they took vaginally, the second due

to heavy bleeding had to come c section. After the

second child, I lost a child, then had my third child,

my little girl. She was called " the miracle baby " by

my gyno doctor. I went into work that day, it was a

month before my due date, started feeling very

fatigue, and I guess I went ghostly white because the

man I worked with at the time just looked at me, and

called the office manager to come down and check on

me, I hadnt said anything to them about feeling bad

even though I was, but by the time the managaer got

down to check on me, I had started bleeding. They

rushed me to the hospital,(got pulled over by the

cops...speeding)and 20 minutes later they were doing

the c-section, she was coming backwards, I was

bleeding awfully, so they took her. Then two years

later I had to have a hysterectomy due to awful pain

constantly and heavy bleeding. I've had two previous

cysts removed from my ovaries between the children as

well.

I have always been border line anemic. I had to take

extra iron when pregnant, which resulted in stool

softeners as well. I was an awful pregnant

person...very ill, very sick, 9 months of agony

but...when I look at my children today, playing,

smiling and bringing peace and happiness to my

life...it was all worth it.

Well, that's my stories.

a Faye

--- Peaceful Life of the Heart

myrrhsea@...> wrote:

> Peace sister,

>

> I have had several surgeries due to congenital

> defects that included open

> heart surgery, eye surgery, a hysteroplasty and

> finally a hysterectomy.

> Over my lifetime I have received multiple blood

> transfusions, the last being

> when I lost my first son and the placenta would not

> detach and was left to

> bleed out through the night because the physician

> did not want to come in at

> midnight to do a D&C. Instead he ordered 6 units of

> blood until he could

> get in in the morning.

>

> As a Air Force brat I received multiple vaccinations

> then again when

> attending Nursing school.

>

> Before my open heart surgery I suffered with and

> survived rheumatic fever,

> scarlet fever and endocarditis.

>

> I feel between the blood transfusions, multiple

> vaccinations, fevers and

> infection in my heart my immune system has been

> greatly compromised and this

> is what has contributed to my FMS.

>

> I used to be a type A personality. I think you

> would have to be to survive

> the life threatening diseases and defects I did.

> But just before turning 40

> my spiritual journey led me to a retreat with Thich

> Nhat Hanh ( a Zen

> Buddhist monk) and learned mindful living, mindful

> meditation and committed

> to the 5 mindful trainings where I received my

> Dharma name " Peaceful Life of

> the Heart " . Since then I have learned to quiet

> myself, stay calm and not

> allow things to get to me.

>

> Breathe and :-)

> Natural Paths

> http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea

> MyrrhSea FibreCraft

> http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea/mfc.html

> .:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.

> She seeketh wool and flax and worketh willingly

> with her hands. ~Proverbs 31:13~

>

>

> Re: Question

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I had Thyroid Cancer surgery in 1979. My Fibro

> symptoms started in the early

> 80's.

>

> {{{Hugs}}}

> Jacqui

>

> Question

>

>

> Just trying to find a link, How many people have

> had any type of

> surgery prior to having fibro?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have had three children and on all three, I had

placenta previa, where the placenta breaks apart and

falls, all children I bled with, my water never broke.

The first though they took vaginally, the second due

to heavy bleeding had to come c section. After the

second child, I lost a child, then had my third child,

my little girl. She was called " the miracle baby " by

my gyno doctor. I went into work that day, it was a

month before my due date, started feeling very

fatigue, and I guess I went ghostly white because the

man I worked with at the time just looked at me, and

called the office manager to come down and check on

me, I hadnt said anything to them about feeling bad

even though I was, but by the time the managaer got

down to check on me, I had started bleeding. They

rushed me to the hospital,(got pulled over by the

cops...speeding)and 20 minutes later they were doing

the c-section, she was coming backwards, I was

bleeding awfully, so they took her. Then two years

later I had to have a hysterectomy due to awful pain

constantly and heavy bleeding. I've had two previous

cysts removed from my ovaries between the children as

well.

I have always been border line anemic. I had to take

extra iron when pregnant, which resulted in stool

softeners as well. I was an awful pregnant

person...very ill, very sick, 9 months of agony

but...when I look at my children today, playing,

smiling and bringing peace and happiness to my

life...it was all worth it.

Well, that's my stories.

a Faye

--- Peaceful Life of the Heart

myrrhsea@...> wrote:

> Peace sister,

>

> I have had several surgeries due to congenital

> defects that included open

> heart surgery, eye surgery, a hysteroplasty and

> finally a hysterectomy.

> Over my lifetime I have received multiple blood

> transfusions, the last being

> when I lost my first son and the placenta would not

> detach and was left to

> bleed out through the night because the physician

> did not want to come in at

> midnight to do a D&C. Instead he ordered 6 units of

> blood until he could

> get in in the morning.

>

> As a Air Force brat I received multiple vaccinations

> then again when

> attending Nursing school.

>

> Before my open heart surgery I suffered with and

> survived rheumatic fever,

> scarlet fever and endocarditis.

>

> I feel between the blood transfusions, multiple

> vaccinations, fevers and

> infection in my heart my immune system has been

> greatly compromised and this

> is what has contributed to my FMS.

>

> I used to be a type A personality. I think you

> would have to be to survive

> the life threatening diseases and defects I did.

> But just before turning 40

> my spiritual journey led me to a retreat with Thich

> Nhat Hanh ( a Zen

> Buddhist monk) and learned mindful living, mindful

> meditation and committed

> to the 5 mindful trainings where I received my

> Dharma name " Peaceful Life of

> the Heart " . Since then I have learned to quiet

> myself, stay calm and not

> allow things to get to me.

>

> Breathe and :-)

> Natural Paths

> http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea

> MyrrhSea FibreCraft

> http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea/mfc.html

> .:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.

> She seeketh wool and flax and worketh willingly

> with her hands. ~Proverbs 31:13~

>

>

> Re: Question

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I had Thyroid Cancer surgery in 1979. My Fibro

> symptoms started in the early

> 80's.

>

> {{{Hugs}}}

> Jacqui

>

> Question

>

>

> Just trying to find a link, How many people have

> had any type of

> surgery prior to having fibro?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That's wonderful! I've always been drawn to buddhism, particularly

zen. Unfortunately, I'm not very evolved. lol But I try, as we all

do.

But just before turning 40

> my spiritual journey led me to a retreat with Thich Nhat Hanh ( a

Zen

> Buddhist monk) and learned mindful living, mindful meditation and

committed

> to the 5 mindful trainings where I received my Dharma

name " Peaceful Life of

> the Heart " . Since then I have learned to quiet myself, stay calm

and not

> allow things to get to me.

[Guest guest]

That's wonderful! I've always been drawn to buddhism, particularly

zen. Unfortunately, I'm not very evolved. lol But I try, as we all

do.

But just before turning 40

> my spiritual journey led me to a retreat with Thich Nhat Hanh ( a

Zen

> Buddhist monk) and learned mindful living, mindful meditation and

committed

> to the 5 mindful trainings where I received my Dharma

name " Peaceful Life of

> the Heart " . Since then I have learned to quiet myself, stay calm

and not

> allow things to get to me.

[Guest guest]

That's wonderful! I've always been drawn to buddhism, particularly

zen. Unfortunately, I'm not very evolved. lol But I try, as we all

do.

But just before turning 40

> my spiritual journey led me to a retreat with Thich Nhat Hanh ( a

Zen

> Buddhist monk) and learned mindful living, mindful meditation and

committed

> to the 5 mindful trainings where I received my Dharma

name " Peaceful Life of

> the Heart " . Since then I have learned to quiet myself, stay calm

and not

> allow things to get to me.

[Guest guest]

I don't know Suzi, but I certainly think it would help by doing so.

As soon as I figure out how to make a 180 lifestyle change, I'll let

you know! lol I'm so much a control-freak-ish type A it's not

funny. But I really do try to not " sweat the small stuff " ... and

really it IS all small stuff. I just have to keep reminding myself

of that lol

>

> So do you all think that we can find a way out of this mess by

altering our minds and our lifestyles?

>

> ttyl

> Suzi

[Guest guest]

I don't know Suzi, but I certainly think it would help by doing so.

As soon as I figure out how to make a 180 lifestyle change, I'll let

you know! lol I'm so much a control-freak-ish type A it's not

funny. But I really do try to not " sweat the small stuff " ... and

really it IS all small stuff. I just have to keep reminding myself

of that lol

>

> So do you all think that we can find a way out of this mess by

altering our minds and our lifestyles?

>

> ttyl

> Suzi