RE: Re: Avosoy

[Guest guest]

& Alan -- thanks for the feedback. I see, on Dr Theo's website, that

there is an Avosoy coming in August -- that also contains chondrioton.

Isn't chondroiton the " repair " part of the formula?? Anyway, I've order

more and cannot wait for it to get here. did you do any sort of

stretching/exercise on your muscles or was this just not a problem for you?

I swear, I get discouraged when I try walking and end up in such a muscle

mess. My last project was helping a friend rebuild porch, deck, and steps.

I didn't seize up at all. But walking? Everytime. And hints, spells or

incantations you can suggest would be appreciated. Joyce (Dr Gross, LHR,

2/2/04)

sungold518@...

Re: Avosoy

Joyce,

(Since you ordered, you know...Avasoy is a compound based on French

research. For others who may not, it's based on compounds from soy

and avocado. The guy who sells Avasoy is " Dr. Theo " ....he of " The

Arthritis Cure " book; in the updated version of the book he writes

about " A-S-U " , avocado-soy unsaponifiable -- which he explains. They

are primary ingredients in Avasoy. Dr. Theo was an early proponent

of glucosamine and chondroitin. Now on to the good stuff)

As you know the literature they send with Avasoy says it could take

four weeks of supplementation before you notice the benefit. If you

took only a 30 day supply, you may just have gotten to the point of

maximum benefit when you ran out. I'm about half way through my

second month, and with the exception of the left hip, which won't get

any better without surgery, the rest of my body feels like I'm about

17.

Could be lucky; could be Avasoy. (THIS IS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT. IT'S

ONLY A REPORT. AND, AS I'VE MENTIONED AT OTHER TIMES, NONE OF IT IS

WHAT I KNOW; IT'S WHAT I THINK I'VE LEARNED FROM READING THE WORK OF

PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO KNOW SOMETHING.)

Hobble on, Hippies...

Alan

> Dear folks. I just wanted to tell you about my experience with the

> supplement Avosoy. I ordered a 30 day supply and took it every

day. I did

> believe that it was making a significant difference in pain.

[Guest guest]

Hi Alan,

The general thing about any of these 'supplements' is what the body actually

makes of them............ From what I can gather about a major joint getting

to the arthritis state is generally this means it is rubbing end to end

enough to wear the cartilage away and set off the arthritis state.........

To get to that state in the general population it would seem that the

muscles are not effectively working to keep the joint apart and bathed in

synovial fluid......... the main agent that carries out the continual repair

of a joint - i.e. there are no blood vessels in cartilage.........

And that is one of those catch 22 as the joint is by then sore and of course

we start messing up the muscle state even more trying to protect ourselves

from pain............ synovial fluid get more limited rah rah..........

Superfit athletes present it slightly differently.........but get a similiar

outcome i.e.cartilage gets worn down and then off at points........... and I

think there is a different process involved with fingers etc.

However, having started to wear the cartilage down there comes a critical

point when cartilage cells are no long at the point to build and

repair.........even if the synovial fluid is still happening..........so no

amount of any supplement is going to create an increase in them where

necessary......... And as the research article indicated even the ones they

cloned and put in there found the environment by then pretty hard going so

didn't do too well.............

But, if it hasn't reached the critical point there is some benefit with

specific exercise to the muscles to get the joint separated to stop the

rubbing (of course these would have to be done without causing more wear),

and attempt to trigger the body into setting about repairing the

cartilage.......... I would imagine this would be a pretty involved affair

over time and I would think any formula would be the last real trigger for

repairs though the contents may or may not help with repairs - depending on

how the body processed the formula.

Figuring out why the uneven wear and specific muscle building via non weight

bearing would be the logical starting place at first hint of pain I would

think, and I continue to be bemused that this is about the last place most

start......... for we inhabit a society that first reaches for the pill

bottle to fix our problems. Said tendencies are duly exploited by all and

sundry.....

Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02

> & Alan -- thanks for the feedback. I see, on Dr Theo's website,

that

> there is an Avosoy coming in August -- that also contains chondrioton.

> Isn't chondroiton the " repair " part of the formula?? Anyway, I've order

> more and cannot wait for it to get here. did you do any sort of

> stretching/exercise on your muscles or was this just not a problem for

you?

> I swear, I get discouraged when I try walking and end up in such a muscle

> mess. My last project was helping a friend rebuild porch, deck, and

steps.

> I didn't seize up at all. But walking? Everytime. And hints, spells or

> incantations you can suggest would be appreciated. Joyce (Dr Gross, LHR,

> 2/2/04)

>

> sungold518@...

>

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