Re: Dumping and ALA

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation kyrrefoerli wrote:

Hi!

I'm still dumping (I think). Not as much/bad as for 1-2 months ago, but

still noticeably (better on round than off, deteriorate during the off

peroiods). So I have mostly been chelating with DMSA, but lately I

have added ALA (3 mg).

So, would it make sense to do one day of DMSA, then three days of

DMSA+ALA, and then finish off with a few (or even a day) doses of DMSA

only ? On several occasions I have noticeable improvements after 2-3

doses of DMSA.

---------Yes, this is a good plan, and others have mentioned doing it,

especially if you notice improvements this way. It can help reduce the side

effects of the ALA. Report back how this works for you.---------Jackie

How do others experience dumping ? Is it constant or do you have cases

of 'sudden' dumping; a sudden worsening ?

- Kyrre

[Guest guest]

In frequent-dose-chelation kyrrefoerli wrote:

Hi!

I'm still dumping (I think). Not as much/bad as for 1-2 months ago, but

still noticeably (better on round than off, deteriorate during the off

peroiods). So I have mostly been chelating with DMSA, but lately I

have added ALA (3 mg).

So, would it make sense to do one day of DMSA, then three days of

DMSA+ALA, and then finish off with a few (or even a day) doses of DMSA

only ? On several occasions I have noticeable improvements after 2-3

doses of DMSA.

---------Yes, this is a good plan, and others have mentioned doing it,

especially if you notice improvements this way. It can help reduce the side

effects of the ALA. Report back how this works for you.---------Jackie

How do others experience dumping ? Is it constant or do you have cases

of 'sudden' dumping; a sudden worsening ?

- Kyrre

[Guest guest]

Kyrre,

Usually you do dmsa/ala and then finish off with just dmsa to mop up

what the ALA moved. Or you do the entire round with both or one.

It is not recommended to keep changing what you are doing during one

single round.

From what I am reading you are doing this longer than the three days?

Since you refer to 1 day dmsa, three of both and then one of dmsa

again. This is not Andy's protocol...but in some cases people can do 4

or 5 days followed by a break. However, if you are just starting this

I would advise you stick to three days of dmsa or dmsa/ala.

Some people do report doing better on 4-5 days. So go by how you feel

and with caution.

Dumping is not constant in the way you refer. You will at first

experience a lot of dumping and changes. Then you will hit a point

where not much changes and you don't' feel like your making

progress..this is called the " stall period " . At which you need to keep

at it and then you'll get back to dumping more and improving. Stall

can last a few months or more..depends on the person. This is the

point when your body starts dumping the deeply stored metals.

Usually around month 3 post removal you dump heavily. This can go for

about 18 months post removal..at which point you may hit that stall.

For us in our family we all seemed to hit the stall around round 10

and continued to about round 16 when we began seeing progress again.

>

> Hi!

>

> I'm still dumping (I think). Not as much/bad as for 1-2 months ago, but

> still noticeably (better on round than off, deteriorate during the off

> peroiods). So I have mostly been chelating with DMSA, but lately I

> have added ALA (3 mg).

> So, would it make sense to do one day of DMSA, then three days of

> DMSA+ALA, and then finish off with a few (or even a day) doses of DMSA

> only ? On several occasions I have noticeable improvements after 2-3

> doses of DMSA.

>

> How do others experience dumping ? Is it constant or do you have cases

> of 'sudden' dumping; a sudden worsening ?

>

> - Kyrre

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, and many thanks for answering !

I'm aware of the dmsa-only after dmsa/ala, have done it myself.

What I was thinking is that if I'm still dumping, by doing a day of

DMSA first I would mop up (most of) what the dumping has left in my

blood and thereby make it 'safer' to add ALA.

I've chelated for almost 9 months and think I can say that I have

(more or less) followed curve e in figure 15 in AI, even though I

haven't managed to do much ALA yet, which is why I want to 'get

going'. I think I am through the worst part of the dumping.

- Kyrre

> >

> > Hi!

> >

> > I'm still dumping (I think). Not as much/bad as for 1-2 months

ago, but

> > still noticeably (better on round than off, deteriorate during

the off

> > peroiods). So I have mostly been chelating with DMSA, but lately I

> > have added ALA (3 mg).

> > So, would it make sense to do one day of DMSA, then three days of

> > DMSA+ALA, and then finish off with a few (or even a day) doses of

DMSA

> > only ? On several occasions I have noticeable improvements after

2-3

> > doses of DMSA.

> >

> > How do others experience dumping ? Is it constant or do you have

cases

> > of 'sudden' dumping; a sudden worsening ?

> >

> > - Kyrre

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ultimately it's your choice to do what you feel is best. We are all

different and no one can say for sure what works best for you. You

won't know until you try.

> > >

> > > Hi!

> > >

> > > I'm still dumping (I think). Not as much/bad as for 1-2 months

> ago, but

> > > still noticeably (better on round than off, deteriorate during

> the off

> > > peroiods). So I have mostly been chelating with DMSA, but lately I

> > > have added ALA (3 mg).

> > > So, would it make sense to do one day of DMSA, then three days of

> > > DMSA+ALA, and then finish off with a few (or even a day) doses of

> DMSA

> > > only ? On several occasions I have noticeable improvements after

> 2-3

> > > doses of DMSA.

> > >

> > > How do others experience dumping ? Is it constant or do you have

> cases

> > > of 'sudden' dumping; a sudden worsening ?

> > >

> > > - Kyrre

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ultimately it's your choice to do what you feel is best. We are all

different and no one can say for sure what works best for you. You

won't know until you try.

> > >

> > > Hi!

> > >

> > > I'm still dumping (I think). Not as much/bad as for 1-2 months

> ago, but

> > > still noticeably (better on round than off, deteriorate during

> the off

> > > peroiods). So I have mostly been chelating with DMSA, but lately I

> > > have added ALA (3 mg).

> > > So, would it make sense to do one day of DMSA, then three days of

> > > DMSA+ALA, and then finish off with a few (or even a day) doses of

> DMSA

> > > only ? On several occasions I have noticeable improvements after

> 2-3

> > > doses of DMSA.

> > >

> > > How do others experience dumping ? Is it constant or do you have

> cases

> > > of 'sudden' dumping; a sudden worsening ?

> > >

> > > - Kyrre

> > >

> >

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