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folks... I received a bunch of message delivery failures for " other

groups " ... I apparantly can't send to more than a few groups at

once... I just don't have the time to forward this to all autism

groups out there... If you can help me distribute this information to

other groups, I would greatly appreciate it... I've just got too many

other things to write up to do this...

the enzyme and mercury boards are by far my favorites... so, I posted

this information there... but, from there, I need your help to get

this information to other parents so that they too can decide for

themselves whether or not this is the " missing link " we've all been

so desperately searching for. thanks.

Jeanne A. Brohart

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

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> Dear Parents:

>

> I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the

conclusion

> that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic

> child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no

> difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE

common

> thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information...

published

> today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First Steps.

> This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I know

> many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I

wanted

> to share this with you also.

>

> PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire email!

>

> The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process

> Partiality - to read more, please go to:

>

> http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

>

>

> Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I

believe

> it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense and

> puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for it

not

> to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up all

> sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is already

a

> ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I encourage

all

> parents of autistic children to share this information with parents

who

> do not have access to the Internet.

>

> Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for

> himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would like

you

> to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted on

this

> week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing

> pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for

parents

> to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE

(not

> email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this

> bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really are...

as

> I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to

fight

> the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill... whether

or

> not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism.

> Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've taken

a

> great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if

you

> find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and phone

> your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit,

however,

> I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was

indeed

> injured by a vaccine.

> This link provides contact info for all states for all legislators

at

> federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help.

>

> http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html

>

> Please note: All parents have my permission to download any

> information I personally provide on my site for free provided that

> information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of

> Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help

raise

> funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that all

> parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies of

this

> information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant to

> parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who wish

to

> purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made

available

> for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this

issue.

>

> I have joined many " " today... for today only... to

share

> this information with as many parents as possible. I will be

" leaving

> these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to contact

me

> will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate

> copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. :o)

>

> Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart

> http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

>

>

>

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I don't really think this is a big issue with my daughter. She has

never cared if doors,windows,etc were partially open. She drinks fine

with a straw, watches part of a video and then pops in a different

one, etc. She dresses and undresses when its time to and ocassionally

she will prefer to be naked for awhile but usually it seems to be of

no concern to her what she wears-other than liking the color purple

and very glitzy things. I think when she stims with things its more

about how it feels on her fingers. I don't really see her spinning

things per say-mostly just touching them. Maybe this will make more

sense to other parent though and even if it just pertains to your

child its wonderful you reached a new understanding with him!! I am

always thrilled when I think I've figured out why something

fascinates or upsets my daughter. Thanks for sharing.

> > Dear Parents:

> >

> > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the

> conclusion

> > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic

> > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no

> > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE

> common

> > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information...

> published

> > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First

Steps.

> > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I

know

> > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I

> wanted

> > to share this with you also.

> >

> > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire

email!

> >

> > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process

> > Partiality - to read more, please go to:

> >

> > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> >

> >

> > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I

> believe

> > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense

and

> > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for

it

> not

> > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up

all

> > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is

already

> a

> > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I

encourage

> all

> > parents of autistic children to share this information with

parents

> who

> > do not have access to the Internet.

> >

> > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for

> > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would

like

> you

> > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted

on

> this

> > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing

> > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for

> parents

> > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE

> (not

> > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this

> > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really

are...

> as

> > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to

> fight

> > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill...

whether

> or

> > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism.

> > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've

taken

> a

> > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if

> you

> > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and

phone

> > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit,

> however,

> > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was

> indeed

> > injured by a vaccine.

> > This link provides contact info for all states for all

legislators

> at

> > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help.

> >

> > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html

> >

> > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any

> > information I personally provide on my site for free provided that

> > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of

> > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help

> raise

> > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that

all

> > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies

of

> this

> > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant

to

> > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who

wish

> to

> > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made

> available

> > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this

> issue.

> >

> > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to

> share

> > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be

> " leaving

> > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to

contact

> me

> > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate

> > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. :o)

> >

> > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart

> > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> >

> >

> >

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the point I made on my site is that my theory also explains a great

deal of variation among children in terms of " what they do " and " to

what degree " ... because the ONE huge coping mechanism that helps these

kids " move forward " is that of LABELS... and parents all label things

differently along the way... so, one child may be fine in one area but

have problems in another... so, this explains the variability among

kids too! I hope you understand what I'm saying here. If not, you

can email me privately and I'll respond. To help many many of these

kids " move forward " , what I've found is that often, you just have to

label something once, and that makes the world of difference in what

they can or cannot do and what they can and can not tolerate.

Jeanne :o)

> > > Dear Parents:

> > >

> > > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the

> > conclusion

> > > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic

> > > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no

> > > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE

> > common

> > > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information...

> > published

> > > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First

> Steps.

> > > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I

> know

> > > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I

> > wanted

> > > to share this with you also.

> > >

> > > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire

> email!

> > >

> > > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To

Process

> > > Partiality - to read more, please go to:

> > >

> > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> > >

> > >

> > > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I

> > believe

> > > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense

> and

> > > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for

> it

> > not

> > > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up

> all

> > > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is

> already

> > a

> > > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I

> encourage

> > all

> > > parents of autistic children to share this information with

> parents

> > who

> > > do not have access to the Internet.

> > >

> > > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for

> > > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would

> like

> > you

> > > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted

> on

> > this

> > > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing

> > > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for

> > parents

> > > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE

> > (not

> > > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto

this

> > > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really

> are...

> > as

> > > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need

to

> > fight

> > > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill...

> whether

> > or

> > > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's

autism.

> > > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've

> taken

> > a

> > > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and

if

> > you

> > > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and

> phone

> > > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit,

> > however,

> > > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child

was

> > indeed

> > > injured by a vaccine.

> > > This link provides contact info for all states for all

> legislators

> > at

> > > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help.

> > >

> > > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html

> > >

> > > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any

> > > information I personally provide on my site for free provided

that

> > > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use

Of

> > > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to

help

> > raise

> > > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that

> all

> > > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies

> of

> > this

> > > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I

grant

> to

> > > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who

> wish

> > to

> > > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made

> > available

> > > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this

> > issue.

> > >

> > > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to

> > share

> > > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be

> > " leaving

> > > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to

> contact

> > me

> > > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for

" duplicate

> > > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. :o)

> > >

> > > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart

> > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Jeanne,

I'm not the you were responding to, but I thought I'd butt in.

I'm French Canadian also, living in the US for about 20 years.

(used to be Marie)

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Jeanne, are you selling this book - if so please state the name and where we

can get it - is this your child? And are you Australian?

cheers H

Many things on the site I couldn't download, Word wouldn't read them

[ ] Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it?

> Dear Parents:

>

> I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the conclusion

> that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic

> child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no

> difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE common

> thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information... published

> today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First Steps.

> This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I know

> many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I wanted

> to share this with you also.

>

> PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire email!

>

> The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process

> Partiality - to read more, please go to:

>

> http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

>

>

> Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I believe

> it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense and

> puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for it not

> to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up all

> sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is already a

> ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I encourage all

> parents of autistic children to share this information with parents who

> do not have access to the Internet.

>

> Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for

> himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would like you

> to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted on this

> week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing

> pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for parents

> to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE (not

> email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this

> bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really are... as

> I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to fight

> the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill... whether or

> not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism.

> Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've taken a

> great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if you

> find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and phone

> your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit, however,

> I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was indeed

> injured by a vaccine.

> This link provides contact info for all states for all legislators at

> federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help.

>

> http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html

>

> Please note: All parents have my permission to download any

> information I personally provide on my site for free provided that

> information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of

> Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help raise

> funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that all

> parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies of this

> information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant to

> parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who wish to

> purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made available

> for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this issue.

>

> I have joined many " " today... for today only... to share

> this information with as many parents as possible. I will be " leaving

> these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to contact me

> will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate

> copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. :o)

>

> Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart

> http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

>

>

>

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I've always wanted to make whatever I did available basically for free

to parents and the best way to do that was via the internet.

In the next week or so, I will be collating all the sections I wrote

up into " a packet " and talking to a printing shop to see how much it

would be to reproduce these. Once that is done, I will let you know

how much reproduction costs. For paper copies, I'm thinking of

making them (cost + $3.00) for parents... Part of that money will then

go to help in the treatment of autistic children. Professionals may

have to pay a little more for the packet... I don't know yet... right

now, my goal has really been to share this information with all

parents.

This theory TOTALLY explains the issues I see in my own son... and I

suspect many many other children as well. By the way, yes, Zachary

and all the information on my site is based on my experience with my

own son. All the pictures in the various sections, etc. are pictures

I took as I so painstainkingly observed EVERYTHING in Zachary...

I've become very very observant when it comes to Zachary now... I

basically trained myself to always analyze the situation... and I am

convinced that parents hold within them the key to so so much...

simply through observing their child. There is just too much

explained based on this " partiality thing " and the importance of

labeling for me to dismiss this.

I'll post something soon as to how to get paper copies. It is

probably going to take me at least 2 weeks though... sorry about

that... again, my focus has really been to just get the information

out there to perhaps help parents see things in a new light.. and help

them in how they help their kids. I figure I have a good 2-3 days

left of writing up stuff and then I can start printing everything out

and collating the various sections.

To all parents though... I really do want to share all of this with

all parents of autistic children as freely as possible... please share

this info with parents who do not have the internet as soon as you

can... in your support groups, etc. There are so so many kids I

think this can help.

So, to answer your question... I'm not planning on writing another

book... did that once and posted that on my web site for free too...

I'm just going to collate all these sections and make them available

to everyone on paper if they want a copy. I'll let you know when I'm

done " collating " . :o) Really though, I'm going as fast as I can in

writing this all up so that I can get paper copies made for those who

don't have computers.

Jeanne A. Brohart

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> Jeanne, are you selling this book - if so please state the name and

where we

> can get it - is this your child? And are you Australian?

> cheers H

> Many things on the site I couldn't download, Word wouldn't read them

> [ ] Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it?

>

>

> > Dear Parents:

> >

> > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the

conclusion

> > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic

> > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no

> > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE

common

> > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information...

published

> > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First

Steps.

> > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I

know

> > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I

wanted

> > to share this with you also.

> >

> > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire

email!

> >

> > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process

> > Partiality - to read more, please go to:

> >

> > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> >

> >

> > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I

believe

> > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense

and

> > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for

it not

> > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up

all

> > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is

already a

> > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I

encourage all

> > parents of autistic children to share this information with

parents who

> > do not have access to the Internet.

> >

> > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for

> > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would like

you

> > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted

on this

> > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing

> > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for

parents

> > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE

(not

> > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this

> > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really

are... as

> > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to

fight

> > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill...

whether or

> > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism.

> > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've

taken a

> > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if

you

> > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and

phone

> > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit,

however,

> > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was

indeed

> > injured by a vaccine.

> > This link provides contact info for all states for all legislators

at

> > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help.

> >

> > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html

> >

> > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any

> > information I personally provide on my site for free provided that

> > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of

> > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help

raise

> > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that

all

> > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies

of this

> > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant

to

> > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who wish

to

> > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made

available

> > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this

issue.

> >

> > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to

share

> > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be

" leaving

> > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to contact

me

> > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate

> > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. :o)

> >

> > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart

> > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> >

> >

> >

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I forgot to mention...no, I'm not Australian...I'm originally from

Canada...French Canadian...so my name is kind of pronounced like 'jan'

- immigrated to the US about 20 years ago... love both countries and

spend a great deal of time in both. :o)

So, why did you think I was Australian? Now you've really got me

curious. LOL

Jeanne

> Jeanne, are you selling this book - if so please state the name and

where we

> can get it - is this your child? And are you Australian?

> cheers H

> Many things on the site I couldn't download, Word wouldn't read them

> [ ] Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it?

>

>

> > Dear Parents:

> >

> > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the

conclusion

> > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic

> > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no

> > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE

common

> > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information...

published

> > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First

Steps.

> > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I

know

> > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I

wanted

> > to share this with you also.

> >

> > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire

email!

> >

> > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process

> > Partiality - to read more, please go to:

> >

> > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> >

> >

> > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I

believe

> > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense

and

> > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for

it not

> > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up

all

> > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is

already a

> > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I

encourage all

> > parents of autistic children to share this information with

parents who

> > do not have access to the Internet.

> >

> > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for

> > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would like

you

> > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted

on this

> > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing

> > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for

parents

> > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE

(not

> > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this

> > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really

are... as

> > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to

fight

> > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill...

whether or

> > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism.

> > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've

taken a

> > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if

you

> > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and

phone

> > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit,

however,

> > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was

indeed

> > injured by a vaccine.

> > This link provides contact info for all states for all legislators

at

> > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help.

> >

> > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html

> >

> > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any

> > information I personally provide on my site for free provided that

> > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of

> > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help

raise

> > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that

all

> > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies

of this

> > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant

to

> > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who wish

to

> > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made

available

> > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this

issue.

> >

> > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to

share

> > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be

" leaving

> > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to contact

me

> > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate

> > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. :o)

> >

> > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart

> > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> >

> >

> >

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they're are a lot of us around... LOL...I have met so so many

Canadians in the US...we're practically taking over the place... just

kidding folks!

Jeanne

PS - I promised my mom I'd never change the spelling of my name even

though I was in the US... LOL

> Jeanne,

> I'm not the you were responding to, but I thought I'd

butt in.

> I'm French Canadian also, living in the US for about 20 years.

> (used to be Marie)

>

>

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don't know why I thought you were an Australian, sounded like one - this is

good! - LOL - is this a book and is it your child etc. I don't understand

the website etc.

Cheers H

[ ] Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it?

> >

> >

> > > Dear Parents:

> > >

> > > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the

> conclusion

> > > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic

> > > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no

> > > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE

> common

> > > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information...

> published

> > > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First

> Steps.

> > > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I

> know

> > > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I

> wanted

> > > to share this with you also.

> > >

> > > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire

> email!

> > >

> > > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process

> > > Partiality - to read more, please go to:

> > >

> > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> > >

> > >

> > > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I

> believe

> > > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense

> and

> > > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for

> it not

> > > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up

> all

> > > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is

> already a

> > > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I

> encourage all

> > > parents of autistic children to share this information with

> parents who

> > > do not have access to the Internet.

> > >

> > > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for

> > > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would like

> you

> > > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted

> on this

> > > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing

> > > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for

> parents

> > > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE

> (not

> > > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this

> > > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really

> are... as

> > > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to

> fight

> > > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill...

> whether or

> > > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism.

> > > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've

> taken a

> > > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if

> you

> > > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and

> phone

> > > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit,

> however,

> > > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was

> indeed

> > > injured by a vaccine.

> > > This link provides contact info for all states for all legislators

> at

> > > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help.

> > >

> > > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html

> > >

> > > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any

> > > information I personally provide on my site for free provided that

> > > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of

> > > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help

> raise

> > > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that

> all

> > > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies

> of this

> > > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant

> to

> > > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who wish

> to

> > > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made

> available

> > > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this

> issue.

> > >

> > > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to

> share

> > > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be

> " leaving

> > > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to contact

> me

> > > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate

> > > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. :o)

> > >

> > > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart

> > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi Jeanne

I downloaded the file last year and just looked it up - came down as PDF

file. I've sent on to as attachment, so hopefully that will work for her

- big file - great story - thanks

Mandi in UK

> -

>

> I've always wanted to make whatever I did available basically for free

> to parents and the best way to do that was via the internet.

>

> In the next week or so, I will be collating all the sections I wrote

> up into " a packet " and talking to a printing shop to see how much it

> would be to reproduce these. Once that is done, I will let you know

> how much reproduction costs. For paper copies, I'm thinking of

> making them (cost + $3.00) for parents... Part of that money will then

> go to help in the treatment of autistic children. Professionals may

> have to pay a little more for the packet... I don't know yet... right

> now, my goal has really been to share this information with all

> parents.

>

> This theory TOTALLY explains the issues I see in my own son... and I

> suspect many many other children as well. By the way, yes, Zachary

> and all the information on my site is based on my experience with my

> own son. All the pictures in the various sections, etc. are pictures

> I took as I so painstainkingly observed EVERYTHING in Zachary...

>

> I've become very very observant when it comes to Zachary now... I

> basically trained myself to always analyze the situation... and I am

> convinced that parents hold within them the key to so so much...

> simply through observing their child. There is just too much

> explained based on this " partiality thing " and the importance of

> labeling for me to dismiss this.

>

> I'll post something soon as to how to get paper copies. It is

> probably going to take me at least 2 weeks though... sorry about

> that... again, my focus has really been to just get the information

> out there to perhaps help parents see things in a new light.. and help

> them in how they help their kids. I figure I have a good 2-3 days

> left of writing up stuff and then I can start printing everything out

> and collating the various sections.

>

> To all parents though... I really do want to share all of this with

> all parents of autistic children as freely as possible... please share

> this info with parents who do not have the internet as soon as you

> can... in your support groups, etc. There are so so many kids I

> think this can help.

>

> So, to answer your question... I'm not planning on writing another

> book... did that once and posted that on my web site for free too...

> I'm just going to collate all these sections and make them available

> to everyone on paper if they want a copy. I'll let you know when I'm

> done " collating " . :o) Really though, I'm going as fast as I can in

> writing this all up so that I can get paper copies made for those who

> don't have computers.

>

>

> Jeanne A. Brohart

> http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

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Jeanne and Mandi thanks for that - I can't open it but I have sent to

someone who will be able to and then will sit down and have a good read - I

so admire folk who do this - and when it comes out please let me know as I

would love a copy etc.

Cheers H

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> Hi Jeanne

> I downloaded the file last year and just looked it up - came down as PDF

> file. I've sent on to as attachment, so hopefully that will work for

her

> - big file - great story - thanks

> Mandi in UK

>

> > -

> >

> > I've always wanted to make whatever I did available basically for free

> > to parents and the best way to do that was via the internet.

> >

> > In the next week or so, I will be collating all the sections I wrote

> > up into " a packet " and talking to a printing shop to see how much it

> > would be to reproduce these. Once that is done, I will let you know

> > how much reproduction costs. For paper copies, I'm thinking of

> > making them (cost + $3.00) for parents... Part of that money will then

> > go to help in the treatment of autistic children. Professionals may

> > have to pay a little more for the packet... I don't know yet... right

> > now, my goal has really been to share this information with all

> > parents.

> >

> > This theory TOTALLY explains the issues I see in my own son... and I

> > suspect many many other children as well. By the way, yes, Zachary

> > and all the information on my site is based on my experience with my

> > own son. All the pictures in the various sections, etc. are pictures

> > I took as I so painstainkingly observed EVERYTHING in Zachary...

> >

> > I've become very very observant when it comes to Zachary now... I

> > basically trained myself to always analyze the situation... and I am

> > convinced that parents hold within them the key to so so much...

> > simply through observing their child. There is just too much

> > explained based on this " partiality thing " and the importance of

> > labeling for me to dismiss this.

> >

> > I'll post something soon as to how to get paper copies. It is

> > probably going to take me at least 2 weeks though... sorry about

> > that... again, my focus has really been to just get the information

> > out there to perhaps help parents see things in a new light.. and help

> > them in how they help their kids. I figure I have a good 2-3 days

> > left of writing up stuff and then I can start printing everything out

> > and collating the various sections.

> >

> > To all parents though... I really do want to share all of this with

> > all parents of autistic children as freely as possible... please share

> > this info with parents who do not have the internet as soon as you

> > can... in your support groups, etc. There are so so many kids I

> > think this can help.

> >

> > So, to answer your question... I'm not planning on writing another

> > book... did that once and posted that on my web site for free too...

> > I'm just going to collate all these sections and make them available

> > to everyone on paper if they want a copy. I'll let you know when I'm

> > done " collating " . :o) Really though, I'm going as fast as I can in

> > writing this all up so that I can get paper copies made for those who

> > don't have computers.

> >

> >

> > Jeanne A. Brohart

> > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

>

>

>

>

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folks... there are " different files " we are talking about here.

the book I wrote is on the Internet on my site as a pdf file... that

was only the very very beginning of what I came to truly understand.

At the time I wrote the book, I thought it was simply an issue with

" order " overall... but then, too many parents wrote me and said: " no,

I don't think that's it " ... so, I kept searching... and that's when I

came to truly understand that the issue is with a subset of " order

processing " ... the processing of partiality... the parts to the whole.

with " order " , I could explain a a lot of stuff in my son... but with

" paritality " , I can explain almost 100% of what I see in all autistic

kids...except for those issues that I consider truly truly sensory in

nature... those issues that I know have been helped by enzymes, for

example.... but, even with the sensory issues, partiality plays a huge

role.

so, the stuff parents are really interested in as far as files to

download is the stuff under " Behavioral, Social, Emotional, Sensory

Issues explained " and under " A World of Order " .

the book will give you a good idea of how I came to understand what I

did, but the GREAT stuff is in the other section... on my web site,

it's under " THE MISSING LINK... Could This Be The Answer Parents Have

So Desperately Sought? "

So, to those of you who read the book last year... like I said, the

book was a " good start " , I was " close " but, still not " on target " ...

now, I think we may have the " bullseye " and that's why I want as many

parents to read this information and share it as possible... I need

your feedback... to see if you see what I see when viewed from this

perspective. Again, this just seems to put so so much together that

I simply have to believe this is a huge part of the puzzle! :o)

As far as downloading the " Missing Link " info... I'm thinking a pdf

file is probably going to have to be the way to go... that is going to

take me a while to put together... I still have to finish writing a

few sections up... so, be patient and I'll get one out there as soon

as I can for all parents to download.

Jeanne :o)

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> Hi Jeanne

> I downloaded the file last year and just looked it up - came down as

PDF

> file. I've sent on to as attachment, so hopefully that will

work for her

> - big file - great story - thanks

> Mandi in UK

>

> > -

> >

> > I've always wanted to make whatever I did available basically for

free

> > to parents and the best way to do that was via the internet.

> >

> > In the next week or so, I will be collating all the sections I

wrote

> > up into " a packet " and talking to a printing shop to see how much

it

> > would be to reproduce these. Once that is done, I will let you

know

> > how much reproduction costs. For paper copies, I'm thinking of

> > making them (cost + $3.00) for parents... Part of that money will

then

> > go to help in the treatment of autistic children. Professionals

may

> > have to pay a little more for the packet... I don't know yet...

right

> > now, my goal has really been to share this information with all

> > parents.

> >

> > This theory TOTALLY explains the issues I see in my own son... and

I

> > suspect many many other children as well. By the way, yes,

Zachary

> > and all the information on my site is based on my experience with

my

> > own son. All the pictures in the various sections, etc. are

pictures

> > I took as I so painstainkingly observed EVERYTHING in Zachary...

> >

> > I've become very very observant when it comes to Zachary now... I

> > basically trained myself to always analyze the situation... and I

am

> > convinced that parents hold within them the key to so so much...

> > simply through observing their child. There is just too much

> > explained based on this " partiality thing " and the importance of

> > labeling for me to dismiss this.

> >

> > I'll post something soon as to how to get paper copies. It is

> > probably going to take me at least 2 weeks though... sorry about

> > that... again, my focus has really been to just get the

information

> > out there to perhaps help parents see things in a new light.. and

help

> > them in how they help their kids. I figure I have a good 2-3

days

> > left of writing up stuff and then I can start printing everything

out

> > and collating the various sections.

> >

> > To all parents though... I really do want to share all of this

with

> > all parents of autistic children as freely as possible... please

share

> > this info with parents who do not have the internet as soon as you

> > can... in your support groups, etc. There are so so many kids I

> > think this can help.

> >

> > So, to answer your question... I'm not planning on writing another

> > book... did that once and posted that on my web site for free

too...

> > I'm just going to collate all these sections and make them

available

> > to everyone on paper if they want a copy. I'll let you know when

I'm

> > done " collating " . :o) Really though, I'm going as fast as I can

in

> > writing this all up so that I can get paper copies made for those

who

> > don't have computers.

> >

> >

> > Jeanne A. Brohart

> > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

>

>

>

>

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boy... and I thought I had made things pretty plain... I'll have to

put an explanation in there for folks...

there are two things...

1. The book I wrote last year - this will show you how I came to

understand that " order " was involved... It's a good " start " , but by

far, the really good stuff... is what I came to understand AFTER I

wrote the book...

2. The Missing Link info... that's not a book or anything yet... I

will collate all that information for parents... it is simply a bunch

of files where I go through, take each topic (i.e., language, finger

pointing, odd behaviors, etc.) and explain each topic in light of the

autistic child's inability to properly process partiality... to

process the parts to a whole....

so, if you only have time to read one thing or want to get to the

really really really good stuff... it is under " The Missing Link " .

Under the link called " A World of Order " , issues that go together are

" lumped together as they are explained " ... whereas under " The Missing

Link " , I've kept them as separate issues in case parents wanted to

read about something very very specific. I do say that on the site

too... the difference between the two. I'll make sure I add a

notation as to the book verses the missing link info.

Hope that helps!

Jeanne :o)

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> > > Jeanne, are you selling this book - if so please state the name

and

> > where we

> > > can get it - is this your child? And are you Australian?

> > > cheers H

> > > Many things on the site I couldn't download, Word wouldn't read

them

> > > [ ] Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this

it?

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dear Parents:

> > > >

> > > > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the

> > conclusion

> > > > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic

> > > > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes

no

> > > > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE

> > common

> > > > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information...

> > published

> > > > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First

> > Steps.

> > > > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since

I

> > know

> > > > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter,

I

> > wanted

> > > > to share this with you also.

> > > >

> > > > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire

> > email!

> > > >

> > > > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To

Process

> > > > Partiality - to read more, please go to:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought?

I

> > believe

> > > > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes

sense

> > and

> > > > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things

for

> > it not

> > > > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing

up

> > all

> > > > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is

> > already a

> > > > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I

> > encourage all

> > > > parents of autistic children to share this information with

> > parents who

> > > > do not have access to the Internet.

> > > >

> > > > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for

> > > > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would

like

> > you

> > > > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be

voted

> > on this

> > > > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing

> > > > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way

for

> > parents

> > > > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and

PHONE

> > (not

> > > > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto

this

> > > > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really

> > are... as

> > > > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need

to

> > fight

> > > > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill...

> > whether or

> > > > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's

autism.

> > > > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've

> > taken a

> > > > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and

if

> > you

> > > > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and

> > phone

> > > > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any

lawsuit,

> > however,

> > > > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child

was

> > indeed

> > > > injured by a vaccine.

> > > > This link provides contact info for all states for all

legislators

> > at

> > > > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html

> > > >

> > > > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any

> > > > information I personally provide on my site for free provided

that

> > > > information is used for personal use only as defined under

" Use Of

> > > > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to

help

> > raise

> > > > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask

that

> > all

> > > > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized

copies

> > of this

> > > > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I

grant

> > to

> > > > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who

wish

> > to

> > > > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made

> > available

> > > > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with

this

> > issue.

> > > >

> > > > I have joined many " " today... for today only...

to

> > share

> > > > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be

> > " leaving

> > > > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to

contact

> > me

> > > > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for

" duplicate

> > > > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists.

:o)

> > > >

> > > > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart

> > > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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....Yet, once that label is given, I believe autistic

children can integrate " a lie " into language

capabilities and can " fib " as well as anyone else.

:o) .....

This theory has a whole lot of missing links. I think

the parent has taken what she has found with her child

and over generalized. EVERYBODY needs order in their

lives. Most autistic people are very good at getting

order in their lives ( note how families have to

modify their activities to accomodate the person on

spectrum). The problem is that the order is different

because the autistic person percieves sensory input

differently and processes that input differently.

Think about this small example (and I have many many

more). You ask that maths be taught in the right

order. What does that mean? How can you determine

the right order when many mathematics genii are

hopeless at arithmetic but brilliant at the

calculus/topology/knots/trig ad infinitum?

How can you make assumptions about spelling when

people learn to read and spell in so many different

ways. I and many others learned to read before they

knew anything about the alphabet. I didn't understand

sound/symbol relationships until I was in my thirties.

Why? As a child, I perceived letters as colours.

The labels the teacher taught for letter sounds were

nonsense to me. I could not spell until I learned to

ignore what the teacher was telling me to do and just

pictured text that I had read with that word in it. I

could then just copy the word from visual memory. The

whole, yes, but I was breaking text into parts and

this had never been labelled or taught in any way.

There was some very complex and totally different

cognitive processing going on there.

I would plead with parents perhaps to read the account

with interest but to understand that just as I do not

think every autistic child will learn to spell my way,

this theory does not hold true for every or even most

people on spectrum. It is simple and that is the

attraction, but I am certain it is far, far too

simple.

> Message: 2

> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:23:45 -0000

> From: " autismhelpforyou "

> <autismhelpforyou@...>

> Subject: Re: Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it?

>

> -

>

> I've always wanted to make whatever I did available

> basically for free

> to parents and the best way to do that was via the

> internet.

>

> In the next week or so, I will be collating all the

> sections I wrote

> up into " a packet " and talking to a printing shop to

> see how much it

> would be to reproduce these. Once that is done, I

> will let you know

> how much reproduction costs. For paper copies, I'm

> thinking of

> making them (cost + $3.00) for parents... Part of

> that money will then

> go to help in the treatment of autistic children.

> Professionals may

> have to pay a little more for the packet... I don't

> know yet... right

> now, my goal has really been to share this

> information with all

> parents.

>

> This theory TOTALLY explains the issues I see in my

> own son... and I

> suspect many many other children as well. By the

> way, yes, Zachary

> and all the information on my site is based on my

> experience with my

> own son. All the pictures in the various sections,

> etc. are pictures

> I took as I so painstainkingly observed EVERYTHING

> in Zachary...

>

> I've become very very observant when it comes to

> Zachary now... I

> basically trained myself to always analyze the

> situation... and I am

> convinced that parents hold within them the key to

> so so much...

> simply through observing their child. There is

> just too much

> explained based on this " partiality thing " and the

> importance of

> labeling for me to dismiss this.

>

> I'll post something soon as to how to get paper

> copies. It is

> probably going to take me at least 2 weeks though...

> sorry about

> that... again, my focus has really been to just get

> the information

> out there to perhaps help parents see things in a

> new light.. and help

> them in how they help their kids. I figure I have

> a good 2-3 days

>

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<A

HREF= " http://www.school-for-champions.com/senses/synesthesia.htm " >Synesthesia:

Hearing Colors - Succeed Through Using Your Senses</A>

http://www.school-for-champions.com/senses/synesthesia.htm

The ability to sense objects as " colors " is called synethesia. My son has

it.....I suspect a lot of people who are visual learners do.

Anyway, this is just an fyi link for anyone interested into looking more into

it.

Liane Gentry Skye

<A HREF= " http://talkingwithpictures.com/ " >Talking With Pictures</A>

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danaatty@... writes:

> But if you cannot articulate

> your point so that people can understand it, then perhaps you need to

> rephrase it, or perhaps you do not understand it yourself.

>

Hi,

I'm also having trouble understanding what you mean. I went to your

site because I thought you were talking about the way my son thinks/learns:

He has trouble grasping the whole, the entire gestalt of things. He cannot

extrapolate meaning from the entire thing -- he gets stuck on detail. In

other words, he can see a tree, but not the entire forest. He's great with

straight, rote facts. Not critical thinking.

Can you clarify? I was following you at first but then you lost me. I

have a dash of autism also.

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> This theory has a whole lot of missing links. I think

> the parent has taken what she has found with her child

> and over generalized.

I agree with this statement. My son never really needed " order " . In

fact, he does not care which clothes he wears, which chair he sits in,

or many things like that. He is generally happy all the time, no

matter what.

> I would plead with parents perhaps to read the account

> with interest but to understand that just as I do not

> think every autistic child will learn to spell my way,

> this theory does not hold true for every or even most

> people on spectrum.

I think this theory/observation probably applies to many AS kids, but

not all, because if anything applied to ALL, then it would have been

discovered by everyone already. I do disagree that it applies to all,

because in my opinion and experience, it does not. But it is very

nice that she was able to figure out her own child and perhaps help

other parents with similar children. It is good to make information

available which may help other people.

Dana

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Well, I want to respond to your message...

yes, it is simple... but so is E = MC squared... Einstein's great

theory.

Man has a " thing " with always wanting to search for something complex

in everything, when, too often, the answer is quite simple.

I'm not saying they don't need order in their lives... we all know

they do... what I am saying, is that we now need to help them

understand " the parts " that make up that order... because in

everything, for something to make sense, it must have some kind of

order to it... that is true of basic addition or calculus. :o)

I'm glad you sent this email... because I had yet to write my section

on teaching a " process " and I will certainly take what you say into

consideration... but, overwhelmingly, and yes, this is totally based

on observations with my own son... but I see it in many other autistic

children as well... the parts must be labeled first... before they can

be put together... you must be able to understand the difference

between a " + " and a " - " , a sign of division and one of multiplication.

And once that connection is made, then everything falls very much

into place. Whether or not you had these things specifically

" labeled " for you, I don't know... I'm just saying that labeling is

the way to help kids understand what is going on when they don't

understand... so, if you were able to figure something out on your

own... that's great... but, what about all those children who can't

make sense of it... not every child is a high functioning or brilliant

autistic child.

I absolutely agree with you that the autistic process sensory

information differently... they look to categorize everything... that

has been seen time and time again.... so, no disagreement there.

Temple Gradin (I think that is how you spell it) explains this very

well in her talks and everything she says (as I recently saw on a

video) in terms of sensory processing as " she felt it going on " is

totally in line with what I am saying.

You state that you did not understand " symbol/sound " relationships

until you were in your thirties... again... why is that? You said

you knew how to read before you knew the alphabet... well, think about

it... perhaps if you had been taught first the alphabet, then the

sounds of letters, then that letters (symbols) make up words, etc...

perhaps you would have figured out the relationships between sounds

and symbols, etc. at a much much earlier age. So, again, everything

you yourself are saying is totally in line with what I am saying.

As far as understanding letters in colors...that statement is

absolutely fascinating to me. If you look on my site... you will see

a link called Zachary's progress in pictures... what actually got my

son to start speaking was what I called: " Zachary's Room Of

Colors " ... if you look at those pictures, you will see that I had

painted the entire room in multiple colors... and each letter of the

alphabet was painted in a color different from that for the color next

to it. My son knew the entire alphabet and I didn't even know it...

until I completed my " room of colors " . On that morning, Zachary

came in, the paint had barely dried, he placed his hands on the " H "

and said: " AAADCCCCHHHH " ... he then went over to the letter " A " ,

placed his hand on it and said: " AAAAAAAAAAAA " . No remember, I had

no clue he knew any of this... yet, within a matter of one day... he

could tell me each and every letter perfectly. Your statement makes

me wonder if the " color " was what helped trigger his language. That

is all very very interesting to me.

You have to realize, all these things I am puttig together in terms of

how I can explain my son's issues, are all very new to me... I'm

learning as I go along too... and I'm wondering if your statement of

" colors " is another piece to it. I will certainly include it in my

materials as a contribution from a reader... if it helps children out

there, great... but, I really really do find that fascinating.

Again, you say you learned to read by breaking text " into parts " ...

that is exactly what I am saying... kids who are autistic need to

understand the " parts " before they can put the whole together!

Again, although you think you disagree with me, everything you are

saying supports my theory 100%. :o) The fact that the " parts " had

not been labeled for you does not mean that you weren't " trying to

pull them apart " and figure them out on your own... obviously you

were... and had someone labeled those for you, I suspect things would

have been much much easier for you.

Your perspective is fascinating to me... to hear adults who are

autistic just reinforces my theory more and more as to what is really

going on. I hope you can now understand what I am saying... and yes,

it is simple... but again, so is E=MCsquared. The answer to many

things in life is often the simple one! :o) I truly thank you for

sharing your perspective. You may have helped me put another little

piece of it together.

Jeanne A. Brohart

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> ...Yet, once that label is given, I believe autistic

> children can integrate " a lie " into language

> capabilities and can " fib " as well as anyone else.

> :o) .....

>

> This theory has a whole lot of missing links. I think

> the parent has taken what she has found with her child

> and over generalized. EVERYBODY needs order in their

> lives. Most autistic people are very good at getting

> order in their lives ( note how families have to

> modify their activities to accomodate the person on

> spectrum). The problem is that the order is different

> because the autistic person percieves sensory input

> differently and processes that input differently.

>

> Think about this small example (and I have many many

> more). You ask that maths be taught in the right

> order. What does that mean? How can you determine

> the right order when many mathematics genii are

> hopeless at arithmetic but brilliant at the

> calculus/topology/knots/trig ad infinitum?

> How can you make assumptions about spelling when

> people learn to read and spell in so many different

> ways. I and many others learned to read before they

> knew anything about the alphabet. I didn't understand

> sound/symbol relationships until I was in my thirties.

> Why? As a child, I perceived letters as colours.

> The labels the teacher taught for letter sounds were

> nonsense to me. I could not spell until I learned to

> ignore what the teacher was telling me to do and just

> pictured text that I had read with that word in it. I

> could then just copy the word from visual memory. The

> whole, yes, but I was breaking text into parts and

> this had never been labelled or taught in any way.

> There was some very complex and totally different

> cognitive processing going on there.

> I would plead with parents perhaps to read the account

> with interest but to understand that just as I do not

> think every autistic child will learn to spell my way,

> this theory does not hold true for every or even most

> people on spectrum. It is simple and that is the

> attraction, but I am certain it is far, far too

> simple.

>

> > Message: 2

> > Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:23:45 -0000

> > From: " autismhelpforyou "

> > <autismhelpforyou@c...>

> > Subject: Re: Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it?

> >

> > -

> >

> > I've always wanted to make whatever I did available

> > basically for free

> > to parents and the best way to do that was via the

> > internet.

> >

> > In the next week or so, I will be collating all the

> > sections I wrote

> > up into " a packet " and talking to a printing shop to

> > see how much it

> > would be to reproduce these. Once that is done, I

> > will let you know

> > how much reproduction costs. For paper copies, I'm

> > thinking of

> > making them (cost + $3.00) for parents... Part of

> > that money will then

> > go to help in the treatment of autistic children.

> > Professionals may

> > have to pay a little more for the packet... I don't

> > know yet... right

> > now, my goal has really been to share this

> > information with all

> > parents.

> >

> > This theory TOTALLY explains the issues I see in my

> > own son... and I

> > suspect many many other children as well. By the

> > way, yes, Zachary

> > and all the information on my site is based on my

> > experience with my

> > own son. All the pictures in the various sections,

> > etc. are pictures

> > I took as I so painstainkingly observed EVERYTHING

> > in Zachary...

> >

> > I've become very very observant when it comes to

> > Zachary now... I

> > basically trained myself to always analyze the

> > situation... and I am

> > convinced that parents hold within them the key to

> > so so much...

> > simply through observing their child. There is

> > just too much

> > explained based on this " partiality thing " and the

> > importance of

> > labeling for me to dismiss this.

> >

> > I'll post something soon as to how to get paper

> > copies. It is

> > probably going to take me at least 2 weeks though...

> > sorry about

> > that... again, my focus has really been to just get

> > the information

> > out there to perhaps help parents see things in a

> > new light.. and help

> > them in how they help their kids. I figure I have

> > a good 2-3 days

> >

>

>

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folks you are missing the point...

I too used to think the problem was order.. that was what I had

written in my book over 6 months ago... what I'm saying is that the

issue is not one of " order " per say, but of processing " the parts to

the whole " properly.

please read my response to the email stating my theory has a " lot of

missing links " ... perhaps you'll understand better. Everything this

person says is 100% in agreement with my theory. :o) Look at things

in terms of " PARTS TO THE WHOLE " ... that's what I'm saying.

Dana - as far as your child not having issues with with chairs,

etc.... again, that's not the issue...I hate to say it, but you are

TOTALLY missing my point... the main issue has to do with the improper

processing of " parts to the whole " ... that the autistic child needs to

" pick out the parts " before he can understand the whole.

As far as " if it were so easy " .. we would have figured this out a long

time ago... again, I totally disagree with that statement... here is a

very concrete example. Man has never been able to figure out how the

sun's corona is heated... until recently... my brother figured it

out... and it was very very simple... one of the basic underlying

assumptions in the second law of physics was incorrectly applied...

and sent the entire house of cards tumbling down in terms of the " big

bang " theory, etc. My brother is in the top 1 or 2 in the world in

MRI research, and his work there is what led him to his discoveries as

to the composition of the sun, etc. Most Americans still think the

sun is a big ball of gas...it isn't... it has a layer of liquid... and

that explains the reason NASA sees " ripples " in solar flares... again,

something very very simple... a problem in the second law of thermal

physics... and yet, when captured... it just puts it all together!

For those of you who care to read about that whole issue.. please go

to thermalphysics.org (that's my brother's site)... he is a scientist

who is respected worldwide... considered to be the very best in his

field... as you will see in my link called: Question Everything on my

site.

Jeanne A. Brohart

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

>

> > This theory has a whole lot of missing links. I think

> > the parent has taken what she has found with her child

> > and over generalized.

>

>

> I agree with this statement. My son never really needed " order " .

In

> fact, he does not care which clothes he wears, which chair he sits

in,

> or many things like that. He is generally happy all the time, no

> matter what.

>

>

> > I would plead with parents perhaps to read the account

> > with interest but to understand that just as I do not

> > think every autistic child will learn to spell my way,

> > this theory does not hold true for every or even most

> > people on spectrum.

>

>

> I think this theory/observation probably applies to many AS kids,

but

> not all, because if anything applied to ALL, then it would have been

> discovered by everyone already. I do disagree that it applies to

all,

> because in my opinion and experience, it does not. But it is very

> nice that she was able to figure out her own child and perhaps help

> other parents with similar children. It is good to make information

> available which may help other people.

>

> Dana

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> Dana - as far as your child not having issues with with chairs,

> etc.... again, that's not the issue...I hate to say it, but you are

> TOTALLY missing my point... the main issue has to do with the

improper

> processing of " parts to the whole " ... that the autistic child needs

to

> " pick out the parts " before he can understand the whole.

Okay so I am totally missing your point. But if you cannot articulate

your point so that people can understand it, then perhaps you need to

rephrase it, or perhaps you do not understand it yourself.

I am autistic. I disagree with your point as I understand it. I

disagree that ALL autistic individuals need order or " parts to the

whole " or whatever you are trying to say. I know some autistic

individuals who must see the whole first, before they can understand

the parts.

But even if that is not your point either, that is okay. MY point is

that no two autistic individuals are the same. And that is the

primary point that I see you are making. You can phrase it however

you want, but you are still saying that all autistic individuals are a

certain way, must process a certain way, whatever you are trying to

say. And I disagree with that statement. But we are free to

disagree, and other people can read your opinion and my opinion, and

then make their own conclusions.

Dana

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Dana - you don't need to get so defensive... :o)

I've been writing this stuff up for the last two weeks almost non stop

to get this out to parents so that they can decide for themselves...

if my wording is not " 100% " accurate, I can update it somewhat.

As far as every child being different, again, you obviously missed the

section on my site that addressed why this theory explains " why they

can all be so different " . I'm sorry Dana, but there is just too much

explained by this to just " brush it off " ... it just puts too many

things together. I am simply a parent, like many others out there

trying to help other kids and trying to help other parents figure this

out...

It's like I state in my section on " brain studies " ... if the

underlying assumptions are wrong as to how the brain works... as I

truly believe they are (in terms of this part of the brain being

involved in this function, and that being involved in that function,

etc.), then, all these " great " (and I use that term very very loosely)

brain studies are basically out the window. If the underlying

assumptions people have used all along are wrong... then the " result "

of those assumptions can't help but be wrong also.

And, yes, perhaps this doesn't explain everything for every child out

there... but I suspect it explains a great deal for many many of

them!... and if this can help us understand as parents, why turn this

into a " nasty discussion " . I don't take things personally...and

there is no need for you to either... When I stated you were " missing

the point " , it wasn't in a negative way, Dana... it was simply a

statement of fact... and if it came across negatively, I apologize. I

will try to be careful about how things are worded... but, it's like I

stated, right now, I'm just trying to get the information out there...

fine tuning " exact words " can come next. I'm just proposing a theory

that I think makes a lot of sense and each parent needs to look at it

in terms of their own child. :o)

Jeanne A. Brohart

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

>

> > Dana - as far as your child not having issues with with chairs,

> > etc.... again, that's not the issue...I hate to say it, but you

are

> > TOTALLY missing my point... the main issue has to do with the

> improper

> > processing of " parts to the whole " ... that the autistic child

needs

> to

> > " pick out the parts " before he can understand the whole.

>

>

> Okay so I am totally missing your point. But if you cannot

articulate

> your point so that people can understand it, then perhaps you need

to

> rephrase it, or perhaps you do not understand it yourself.

>

> I am autistic. I disagree with your point as I understand it. I

> disagree that ALL autistic individuals need order or " parts to the

> whole " or whatever you are trying to say. I know some autistic

> individuals who must see the whole first, before they can understand

> the parts.

>

> But even if that is not your point either, that is okay. MY point

is

> that no two autistic individuals are the same. And that is the

> primary point that I see you are making. You can phrase it however

> you want, but you are still saying that all autistic individuals are

a

> certain way, must process a certain way, whatever you are trying to

> say. And I disagree with that statement. But we are free to

> disagree, and other people can read your opinion and my opinion, and

> then make their own conclusions.

>

>

> Dana

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thanks for sharing these links... I'll add them to my site.

Jeanne A. Brohart

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> <A

HREF= " http://www.school-for-champions.com/senses/synesthesia.htm " >Syne

sthesia: Hearing Colors - Succeed Through Using Your Senses</A>

>

> http://www.school-for-champions.com/senses/synesthesia.htm

>

> The ability to sense objects as " colors " is called synethesia. My

son has

> it.....I suspect a lot of people who are visual learners do.

>

> Anyway, this is just an fyi link for anyone interested into looking

more into

> it.

>

> Liane Gentry Skye

>

> <A HREF= " http://talkingwithpictures.com/ " >Talking With Pictures</A>

>

> " nonverbal " does not have to mean " unable to communicate "

>

>

>

>

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> Dana - you don't need to get so defensive... :o)

I am never defensive. I state my opinion objectively. I dislike

that people would consider all autistic children " the same " .

>

> I've been writing this stuff up for the last two weeks almost non

stop

> to get this out to parents so that they can decide for themselves...

> if my wording is not " 100% " accurate, I can update it somewhat.

That might be helpful.

>

> As far as every child being different, again, you obviously missed

the

> section on my site that addressed why this theory explains " why they

> can all be so different " .

Your site is too busy for me to find most things, but if you have a

section for that, then that is good. Maybe you can make your site

easier to find things?

But then you say your theory " explains autistic kids " . So to me, that

is inconsistent and confusing. You might want to make it more

understandable.

>> I'm sorry Dana, but there is just too much

> explained by this to just " brush it off " ... it just puts too many

> things together.

Then don't brush it off. Put your ideas on your site, tell people

about it, and it will probably help many kids/parents.

> And, yes, perhaps this doesn't explain everything for every child

out

> there... but I suspect it explains a great deal for many many of

> them!...

You can believe this, that is fine. And I can disagree, that is also

fine.

>> and if this can help us understand as parents, why turn this

> into a " nasty discussion " .

I did not turn it into a nasty discussion. I disagreed with you.

Does disagreement make things nasty? Sorry, I don't understand why

that would be so.

>> I don't take things personally...and

> there is no need for you to either...

I didn't. Just because I disagree with someone, does not mean I took

it negatively, or personally. It just means I disagreed.

>> When I stated you were " missing

> the point " , it wasn't in a negative way, Dana...

I did not understand it as negative. Just that you stated [with the

word TOTALLY in capital letters, which I considered a semi-slap but

chose to ignore] I was missing your point, and I agreed that maybe I

was, but then you might want to rephrase your point.

Dana

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What I am trying to say...LOL... I never thought this would be so

difficult to explain... is that, at least in my son, and I suspect

many other children as well.... I can explan A TON of stuff based

solely on one thing:

My child can not understand " the whole " without first understanding

the " parts " that make up the whole. So, he couldn't understand " a

word " without first understanding the parts to a word... the fact that

there is this thing called the alphabet made up of letters... and that

each letter has a sound or sounds associated with it... and that you

can put letters together to make a word.

Only after he understood all that, did he understand the concept of

" words " and how you use them.

I don't know how else to say it folks... just that to " understand " the

whole... they need to understand the " parts " that make up the

whole... starting with the very very lowest level possible.

Can kids learn other ways? I'm sure they can... I'm simply saying

that " defining the parts " makes learning a lot easier and helps move

them forward a lot faster since they need to " categorize " everything

before they can understand it.

Again, that's why I think we see so much variability in these kids and

how they learn... how you label things, when you label things, etc.

for them makes a huge huge difference in my opinion.

I know that what I'm proposing is very new to everyone... no matter

how " simple " it seems... but, when you truly grasp " what I'm saying "

then I think a lot more of it will fall into place.

My best advice is just to read the materials I provided and think

about it. By the way, French is my first language (I did not really

speak much english until 8th grade) so, maybe I'm not as accurate in

my wording as I need to be... although I really thought I was. I

think really, it is honestly just going to take time for people to

look at things in a new way.

I added a link at the top of my site called: How to use the info on

this site... maybe that will help some of you too!

Jeanne A. Brohart

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com

> In a message dated 8/1/02 11:50:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> danaatty@y... writes:

>

>

> > But if you cannot articulate

> > your point so that people can understand it, then perhaps you need

to

> > rephrase it, or perhaps you do not understand it yourself.

> >

>

> Hi,

> I'm also having trouble understanding what you mean. I went

to your

> site because I thought you were talking about the way my son

thinks/learns:

> He has trouble grasping the whole, the entire gestalt of things. He

cannot

> extrapolate meaning from the entire thing -- he gets stuck on

detail. In

> other words, he can see a tree, but not the entire forest. He's

great with

> straight, rote facts. Not critical thinking.

> Can you clarify? I was following you at first but then you

lost me. I

> have a dash of autism also.

>

>

>

>

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