Re: Need Support, pretty upset - Long

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In a message dated 3/10/2004 12:01:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

denise.axelrod@... writes:

My husband is almost ready to just not tell my rheumatologist about me

breastfeeding

I'M WITH YOUR HUSBAND. HAVE THE BABY AND KEEP THE BREASTFEEDING PART TO

YOURSELF. IT IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS, THE ONLY ONE WHO NEEDS TO KNOW YOU ARE

BREASTFEEDING IS THE PEDIATRICIAN AND I WOULD NOT EVEN TELL THEM ABOUT THE

MEDICATION. I NEVER BREAST FED MY DAUGHTER BECUASE I WAS TOLD MY MEDS WERE BAD

FOR

HER AND NOW I FIND OUT, LIKE YOURS, THEY COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN SAFELY WHILE

BREASTFEEDING.

God Bless,

Robin, NorthEastern, NY

EDD- July 27th, 2004

IT'S A BOY!!!!!!

Mommy to:

&

(twin boys 7 1/2),

Madison, daughter, 5 years and

Wife to Pup 15 years (October 31, 1988)

Gastric Bypass Surgery-

October 18th 2002

Start-378, current- 246(pregnant)

goal 170 after baby

[Guest guest]

If you choose to breastfeed and not tell anyone.....could you at least consider

supplementing with formula when the medications you are taking are at a high in

your system? Maybe only breastfeed when you are at the tail end of when your

pain medications are effective. Maybe learn the half life of your medications

some of the nurses on this list could be more helpful in this area than me.

I know babies don't always eat on schedule but its a thought for limiting the

amount of medication that is passed from you to baby. There were a few times

when I was breastfeeding my son that I had to take massive doses of antibiotics

and pain medication...I got staph infection to my c-section incision and they

wanted me to quit breastfeeding. I did not I just supplemented with formula and

pumped out the milk when the drugs were at a high in my system.

My niece is breastfeeding while taking high doses of depression/anxiety

meds.....they say this is safe but were not too happy about her choice to

breastfeed.

If your pediatrican or doctors feel you are endangering your child don't be

surprised if child welfare or the department of social services knocks on your

door. And believe me this is not a good thing because once they are a part of

your life they never seem to go away.

I think you should speak to the LaLeche Leage and see what information and

support you can get from them.

Just my very humble opinion.

Chrystal

Wife to Jace - together 6 Years!

Happy Mommy to - 4 Years Old!

New Baby Swenson Due July 28, 2004!

Zookeeper for 2 big dogs and 5 cats who let me feed them!

[Guest guest]

,

It sounds as though you are well informed and know your body.

It's too bad the doctors won't listen to you with an open heart and mind.

Even if you only breastfed your baby for the first 6 weeks of life you are

giving your baby a wonderful advantage over formula fed babies.

The bonding from breastfeeding is incredible and I don't blame you for wanting

that. I would not give up my experience with my son for a million dollars.

Good luck to you and if you can find a doctor who supports you and your choices

more. I have changed doctors more times than I want to count because they were

not thinking of me as an individual....just another case.

Chrystal

Wife to Jace - together 6 Years!

Happy Mommy to - 4 Years Old!

New Baby Swenson Due July 28, 2004!

Zookeeper for 2 big dogs and 5 cats who let me feed them!

Re: Need Support, pretty upset - Long

If you choose to breastfeed and not tell anyone.....could you at least

consider supplementing with formula when the medications you are taking are at a

high in your system? Maybe only breastfeed when you are at the tail end of when

your pain medications are effective. Maybe learn the half life of your

medications some of the nurses on this list could be more helpful in this area

than me.

I know babies don't always eat on schedule but its a thought for limiting

the amount of medication that is passed from you to baby. There were a few

times when I was breastfeeding my son that I had to take massive doses of

antibiotics and pain medication...I got staph infection to my c-section incision

and they wanted me to quit breastfeeding. I did not I just supplemented with

formula and pumped out the milk when the drugs were at a high in my system.

My niece is breastfeeding while taking high doses of depression/anxiety

meds.....they say this is safe but were not too happy about her choice to

breastfeed.

If your pediatrican or doctors feel you are endangering your child don't be

surprised if child welfare or the department of social services knocks on your

door. And believe me this is not a good thing because once they are a part of

your life they never seem to go away.

I think you should speak to the LaLeche Leage and see what information and

support you can get from them.

Just my very humble opinion.

Chrystal

Wife to Jace - together 6 Years!

Happy Mommy to - 4 Years Old!

New Baby Swenson Due July 28, 2004!

Zookeeper for 2 big dogs and 5 cats who let me feed them!

[Guest guest]

,

It sounds as though you are well informed and know your body.

It's too bad the doctors won't listen to you with an open heart and mind.

Even if you only breastfed your baby for the first 6 weeks of life you are

giving your baby a wonderful advantage over formula fed babies.

The bonding from breastfeeding is incredible and I don't blame you for wanting

that. I would not give up my experience with my son for a million dollars.

Good luck to you and if you can find a doctor who supports you and your choices

more. I have changed doctors more times than I want to count because they were

not thinking of me as an individual....just another case.

Chrystal

Wife to Jace - together 6 Years!

Happy Mommy to - 4 Years Old!

New Baby Swenson Due July 28, 2004!

Zookeeper for 2 big dogs and 5 cats who let me feed them!

Re: Need Support, pretty upset - Long

If you choose to breastfeed and not tell anyone.....could you at least

consider supplementing with formula when the medications you are taking are at a

high in your system? Maybe only breastfeed when you are at the tail end of when

your pain medications are effective. Maybe learn the half life of your

medications some of the nurses on this list could be more helpful in this area

than me.

I know babies don't always eat on schedule but its a thought for limiting

the amount of medication that is passed from you to baby. There were a few

times when I was breastfeeding my son that I had to take massive doses of

antibiotics and pain medication...I got staph infection to my c-section incision

and they wanted me to quit breastfeeding. I did not I just supplemented with

formula and pumped out the milk when the drugs were at a high in my system.

My niece is breastfeeding while taking high doses of depression/anxiety

meds.....they say this is safe but were not too happy about her choice to

breastfeed.

If your pediatrican or doctors feel you are endangering your child don't be

surprised if child welfare or the department of social services knocks on your

door. And believe me this is not a good thing because once they are a part of

your life they never seem to go away.

I think you should speak to the LaLeche Leage and see what information and

support you can get from them.

Just my very humble opinion.

Chrystal

Wife to Jace - together 6 Years!

Happy Mommy to - 4 Years Old!

New Baby Swenson Due July 28, 2004!

Zookeeper for 2 big dogs and 5 cats who let me feed them!

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Robin,

Thanks for the support sweetie, it helps to know that people agree with me. My

twin sis called last night just as we got home from meeting the ped doc, I told

her what happened and then she started arguing with me, telling me she doesn't

think its a good idea that I breastfeed either, she is an RN. I had to cut off

the phone call before I starting crying because I just don't have the energy to

fight to convince yet another person, especially my twin sis! She said for me

to send her the info I gather so she could see it, but it bugs me that not even

she has an appreciation that I can take the data I have gathered, understand it,

and make a somewhat educated decision about what is best for my kid! ARG!!! I

guess this is what it feels like to have people tell you how to raise your kid,

its just starting with me early. Maybe you and my hubby are right and I

shouldn't tell anyone, but how do I answer the question when my rheumatologist

asks, because I'm sure he will. I mean I " can " lie if I have too, I just really

hate being put in that position.

Axelrod

Re: Need Support, pretty upset - Long

In a message dated 3/10/2004 12:01:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

denise.axelrod@... writes:

My husband is almost ready to just not tell my rheumatologist about me

breastfeeding

I'M WITH YOUR HUSBAND. HAVE THE BABY AND KEEP THE BREASTFEEDING PART TO

YOURSELF. IT IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS, THE ONLY ONE WHO NEEDS TO KNOW YOU ARE

BREASTFEEDING IS THE PEDIATRICIAN AND I WOULD NOT EVEN TELL THEM ABOUT THE

MEDICATION. I NEVER BREAST FED MY DAUGHTER BECUASE I WAS TOLD MY MEDS WERE BAD

FOR

HER AND NOW I FIND OUT, LIKE YOURS, THEY COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN SAFELY WHILE

BREASTFEEDING.

God Bless,

Robin, NorthEastern, NY

EDD- July 27th, 2004

IT'S A BOY!!!!!!

Mommy to:

&

(twin boys 7 1/2),

Madison, daughter, 5 years and

Wife to Pup 15 years (October 31, 1988)

Gastric Bypass Surgery-

October 18th 2002

Start-378, current- 246(pregnant)

goal 170 after baby

[Guest guest]

,

I think you should make t-shirts for pregnant women with your saying, " Pregnant

women are not vectors for babies!!!!! " LOL!!! I am sure that other pregnant

mom's that have serious medical conditions like myself can relate to what you

have put into words for us and on some days want to scream it to the mountain

tops! I have great respect for doctors, the amount of work they have to do just

to see patients is vast, but I believe that unfortunately sometimes they lose

sight that they are really only making educated guesses for PEOPLE, not just a

situation described on a chart. Who knows, maybe I am totally over-reacting and

my rheumatologist won't do this to me, I'm just very leery as I have had some

awful experiences with doctors in the last 3 years spending many a day in bed in

tremendous pain because doctors refused to listen to me or believe me. I have

really had to focus on reaching the finishline of this pregnancy, especially the

last couple of weeks, as my pain has increased daily to the point even sleeping

hurts. Walking has become more and more difficult and last night, while in the

waiting room for the ped doc, my husband and I discovered that my pinky finger

has become significantly deformed from the arthritis. I'm only 33 and all I

want to do is to bring my pain down to a tolerable level so I can play with my

kid a little bit, be able to pick her up without fear of dropping her because of

the pain, and not have to live moment by moment waiting till its time to take

yet another pill. Thanks for your words and support, it helps alot.

Axelrod

Re: Need Support, pretty upset - Long

Again I feel the need to preface my post with the fact that I am not pregnant

yet...

I am so sorry that you are in such a hard position. I am not sure what

state you are living in at this time. I am in NYC and I worked for may years

with a pain management specialist who treated people with the same conditions

that you have. In his practice he saw both men and woman of varied ages and he

saw woman who where pregnant. He was willing to give them medication, after

they made informed decisions. Again I am feeling like I need to state that just

because you are pregnant does not mean that you are no longer your own person

with your own thoughts and feelings. Pregnant woman are not vectors for

babies!!!!! I can not say this enough.

As far a breastfeeding is concerned you need to be the one to decide what to

do to make you comfortable. If you have done the research and feel that you

want to breastfeed and feel that it will be safe for baby than give it a shot(I

know little on the subject of breast feeding). If your doctor refuses to

provide you with appropriate medication than you have learned an valuable lesson

he/she is a jerk!! If a doctor with holds needed medication than you are being

manipulated and you should find a new doctor, better to learn this now than

later. I hate that just because doctors have letters behind their names they

feel they have the right to tell people what to do rather than suggest what to

do.

This is just one woman's advice......

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Chrystal,

Thanks for your advice. You have brought up some very good points and both

my husband and I discussed these and researched the answers to them too. If I

can get my rheumatologist to prescribe Enbrel to me, then my use of pain meds

will go down almost immediately, of course if the medication works the way it

should. I have taken these pain meds throughout my pregnancy and have

discovered in my research that my baby has actually been exposed to more of the

drugs in-utero than she will be getting via breastmilk. Also, I can time taking

my medication so I am taking it right after she has a feeding so it gives my

body time to process it and even less will be in the breastmilk, if any shows up

at all. I know I can do this because I have suffered with the pain during this

whole pregnancy so having to wait for relief till after she has a feeding will

be a breeze and I'm totally up for that. Don't get me wrong, if I see that she

is having some reaction to breastfeeding at all I will stop and go to formula

feeding. My twin sis and I were formula fed, my niece and nephews were all

formula fed, I trust formula, I just want to be able to freely choose, not have

my doctors force me to choose. If you would like some information for you and

your niece about depressing/anxiety meds and breastfeeding that I came across I

would be happy to send you the links. From what I saw some meds for this are

just fine and some you have to watch so maybe if she is on something that isn't

so great she can change.

Axelrod

Re: Need Support, pretty upset - Long

If you choose to breastfeed and not tell anyone.....could you at least

consider supplementing with formula when the medications you are taking are at a

high in your system? Maybe only breastfeed when you are at the tail end of when

your pain medications are effective. Maybe learn the half life of your

medications some of the nurses on this list could be more helpful in this area

than me.

I know babies don't always eat on schedule but its a thought for limiting the

amount of medication that is passed from you to baby. There were a few times

when I was breastfeeding my son that I had to take massive doses of antibiotics

and pain medication...I got staph infection to my c-section incision and they

wanted me to quit breastfeeding. I did not I just supplemented with formula and

pumped out the milk when the drugs were at a high in my system.

My niece is breastfeeding while taking high doses of depression/anxiety

meds.....they say this is safe but were not too happy about her choice to

breastfeed.

If your pediatrican or doctors feel you are endangering your child don't be

surprised if child welfare or the department of social services knocks on your

door. And believe me this is not a good thing because once they are a part of

your life they never seem to go away.

I think you should speak to the LaLeche Leage and see what information and

support you can get from them.

Just my very humble opinion.

Chrystal

Wife to Jace - together 6 Years!

Happy Mommy to - 4 Years Old!

New Baby Swenson Due July 28, 2004!

Zookeeper for 2 big dogs and 5 cats who let me feed them!

[Guest guest]

Chrystal,

From your mouth to God's ears! Thanks for the wonderful words of support.

Axelrod

Re: Need Support, pretty upset - Long

,

It sounds as though you are well informed and know your body.

It's too bad the doctors won't listen to you with an open heart and mind.

Even if you only breastfed your baby for the first 6 weeks of life you are

giving your baby a wonderful advantage over formula fed babies.

The bonding from breastfeeding is incredible and I don't blame you for wanting

that. I would not give up my experience with my son for a million dollars.

Good luck to you and if you can find a doctor who supports you and your

choices more. I have changed doctors more times than I want to count because

they were not thinking of me as an individual....just another case.

Chrystal

Wife to Jace - together 6 Years!

Happy Mommy to - 4 Years Old!

New Baby Swenson Due July 28, 2004!

Zookeeper for 2 big dogs and 5 cats who let me feed them!

[Guest guest]

Chrystal,

From your mouth to God's ears! Thanks for the wonderful words of support.

Axelrod

Re: Need Support, pretty upset - Long

,

It sounds as though you are well informed and know your body.

It's too bad the doctors won't listen to you with an open heart and mind.

Even if you only breastfed your baby for the first 6 weeks of life you are

giving your baby a wonderful advantage over formula fed babies.

The bonding from breastfeeding is incredible and I don't blame you for wanting

that. I would not give up my experience with my son for a million dollars.

Good luck to you and if you can find a doctor who supports you and your

choices more. I have changed doctors more times than I want to count because

they were not thinking of me as an individual....just another case.

Chrystal

Wife to Jace - together 6 Years!

Happy Mommy to - 4 Years Old!

New Baby Swenson Due July 28, 2004!

Zookeeper for 2 big dogs and 5 cats who let me feed them!