Re: Hashimoto's - question, especially for gillian

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Hi, Gilliam

I am enjoyed your very informative posts. Good for you, that you

understand the technical language so well. I am trying, but things are

not always easy for me to remember.

I have a question for you. I believe you referred to intermittent

thyroid function....the thyroid producing hormones in spurts. I believe

that may be my problem. I have checked over a number of cites, but do

not see a reference for that. Do you know what specific further

testing can be done for a person with Hashimoto's (as diagnosed by the

thyroid antibody test being very positive) and " normal " TSH and FT3 and

FT4, to see if the " normal " is really a result of averaging of

intermittent production, instead of steady thyroid hormone secretion?

Since the half life of thyroxin is so long, it seems that this is

possible. Anyway, I would be very very interested in knowing if any

further thyroid testing can be done for Hashimoto's other than TSH, FT3

and FT4.

Thanks for all your info. Best regards

Sunny

>

> Hi Pat

>

> ...on a dank grey morning here in the Uk just read the posts..Your

> Thyroid readings ARE WRONG...(would be surprised to hear of a

> neuro.that can interpret them)

> You are quoting Total T's....You need to get done the FT4/FT3/TSH,

> the free's are the unbound available for use  figures.plus the lab

> reference ranges....The mitochondria require a constant supply of

> T3/T4 to function ..yours are not getting enough..that may possibly

> account for your cortisol elevations as the body struggles to

> compensate...All your TSH readings SCREAM HYPOTHYROID..please help

> my body fast..

> Your sleep pattern also points to hypo...with disturbed adrenal

> function.This may settle down once you start treatment..hypo can

> make you sleep 24/7 or wake /sleep/wake unrefreshed. An even better

> way of testing adrenals than random cortisol is to use Adrenal

> Salivary Testing over 24 hrs..think I remember someone saying you

> can order direct from a lab in the US. (we can here as well )

>

> http://thyroid.about.com/  if you scroll down on the left and click

> forums you will be able to join and the folks there really do know

> about thyroids..the US board moves at an incredible rate..They will

> also be able to help you find a good endo who knows about thyroid in

> your area.N.B.lots of folks there and the UK board have other co-

> existing conditions but everyone is concerned with optimising

> thyroid function.

>

> http://thyroid.about.com/cs/hypothyroidism/a/checklist.htm

>

> http://thyroid.about.com/cs/basics_starthere/a/thyroid101.htm

>

> http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsConditions/Hypothyroidismcc.html

>

> http://www.emedicine.com/pmr/topic57.htm

>

> This last one is really good fun to do.I did it with my GP

>

> http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp    

>

> It gave everyone basic clues and bio-chemical testing has so far

> shown I do have an adrenal problem as well as my hashi's etc as part

> of my mito.which I am now going to have further testing for. Adrenal

> Insufficiency is also documented as being found in Mito. If you want

> to know more about Adrenals and stress which may or maynot be

> thyroid or Mito. related read the work of Hans Seyle.

>

> Too many Docs do not go by what the patient says and take on board

> signs and symptoms..an untreated thyroid will make any mito. illness

> worse...got lots of PubMed stuff as well on the subject.

>

> Thyroid is also a genetically inherited disease and will affect all

> your organs etc..it obviously runs in your family

>

> Don't let the neuro. tell you the results stem from mito.  They may

> or may not..the point is if you recieve correct treatment for it YOU

> WILL FEEL BETTER..

>

> Now Ive had my morning 'rant' you can all groan again,

>

> Gillian

>

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> >

> > Hi, I don't think too many of you know me. I'm one of the 'old

> > timers' on the list but I only pop in occasionally. When I popped

> in

> > today I happened on a discussion of thyroid, etc. I was just

> tested

> > last week for cortisol AM and PM and thyroid tests plus others. I

> am

> > so miserable today that I called the lab and asked them to fax the

> > results to me. I was hoping for a clue about the pain I'm having.

> > Well, I can see that some things are out of whack but I don't know

> > what they mean. I'm hoping someone here can help. My cortisol AM

> was

> > 17, PM was 24.5. The PM is supposed to be about one half of the

> AM.

> > TSH 2.72, my TSH varies with each test I've had. All the way from

> 2.0

> > to 5.0, is this usual? I'm not taking thyroid. T3 144, T4 8.7.

> Also,

> > my sodium and carbon dioxide have been just below the usual level

> for

> > the past several years. My neurologis ordered the testing and I

> had

> > the results faxed to him but I don't think he had a chance to look

> at

> > them. Has any one else had results like this and if so, doe you

> think

> > they stem from Mito? Thanks all

> > Pat K

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