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From my understanding, all babies are born without any heel definition.

This comes later, and this is what causes some problems early on with

keeping the feet in the DBB. Without the heel definition, there's nothing

there to help hold the foot in the shoe, therefore, it slips out a lot

easier. There is a plastizoid insert that can go in right above the heel to

help hold the foot in the shoe. I understand it also helps the heel form

since it keeps the heel from being right against the back of the shoe. The

heel does eventually form. My son is 7-months old and there is heel

definition there now. Not sure if there's more to come with that, but

there's definitely more there than when he was born. The newer Markell

shoes have a deeper pocket at the heel to help allow heel formation since

the shoes are on so early for so long.

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BCF 03/25/2004

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On 10/24/2004 8:57:16 AM, nosurgery4clubfoot wrote:

> I read in a post and Dr. Herzenberg is always talking about the " empty "

> heel. Does a clubfoot have no heel at all? There never will be one?

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Elijah has this trait too.. but as time goes on, it seems to 'fill

in' a little like our Dr has said it would. Dont quote me on this,

but I think it has something to do w/ the actual density of the

bones. Ive been able to compare xrays of Elijah CF and unaffected

foot and the bones in the unaffected foot are much more white on the

xray. Our Dr says that as time goes by and we retrain the foot to

grow straight, the heel will become more sturdy.

Lori

Mom to

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Nova 8

Ethan 2

and Elijah RCF w/ plantaris DBB 23/7

> > I read in a post and Dr. Herzenberg is always talking about

> the " empty "

> > heel. Does a clubfoot have no heel at all? There never will be

> one? Does

> > this mean anything significant for them in the future?

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> > and Christian 1/30/04 LCF - DBB 23/7

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I missed the beginning discussion of this.. so I apologize if I've

got the topic wrong, but..

It's very common, I believe, for a well treated clubfoot heel to feel

empty, or " smushy " , for lack of a better word, at least early on, in

comparison to a normal heel, but this doesn't mean there's anything

wrong. (To try to describe it, I'd say a clubfoot heel can feel much

like the fleshy part of the palm of your hand under your thumb, as

opposed to, say, the firmer middle of your palm.)

My daughter has unilateral left cf. After full correction, by Dr.

Ponseti, the bottom of her heel felt softer than her other heel. Dr.

Ponseti told me this was nothing to worry about and that it would

improve as she grew, and bore weight, and so if has. Her function and

flexibility have always been great.

Again, I apologize if this was not what you were discussing.

and Claire, age 4

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> I do want to check it (empty heel) for my child of 6 months having

> Bi. CF. Is there any trick to find out whether he have this problem

> or not.

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> please help me in this regard as there is no Ponseti trained doctor

> in Karachi, Pakistan.

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> Regards

> Shahid

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Shahid,

You said that your doctor feels the feet are corrected well and will

be functional and flexible. Do you feel confident in him?

Do your son's feet stay well in the brace shoes? Is he comfortable

and used to wearing them? Do both feet seem corrected to you, even if

slightly different? They should look straight and plantigrade, and

even a bit overcorrected (pointed outward). It's good he has

dorsiflexion.

If you are fairly confident, I would wait and see. The crease might

well disappear. Perhaps it's extra skin or due to a chubby baby foot.

At 6 months my daughter's didn't look totally perfect, even though

Dr. Ponseti assured us it was well corrected. It was a bit lumpy and

of course had extra skin on the side. It slimmed down, though, as she

grew, especially as she began to bear weight, the extra skin went

away, and improved significantly in appearance over time. Now it

truly is almost impossible to tell anything was ever different about

it.

If you have doubts, though, and persistent worries, I'd say not to

ignore them and perhaps try to get another opinion, even from afar,

by sending email pictures to another doctor.

Hope this helps.

and Claire

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> On the back of the heel? Yes

> Not on the sole of the foot? Yes

> Do the feet have good dorsiflexion? yes

> The ability to lift the toes up with the heel staying

> down? yes

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> Please comment.

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> Regards

> Shahid

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