Re: Question about teething-- breastfeeding issues

November 14, 2004

Yes, I agree. Starting breastfeeding was the hardest part. At the

hospital, they kept saying that Kaitlin couldn't latch on right. They gave her

syringes of formula and then wondered why she didn't want to latch on! In

the mean time they made me pump. No wonder she wasn't hungry...duh. When we

got home (which they didn't want to let us go, since she didn't latch correctly

yet) we had no problems...she was hungry, so she got the hang really quick.

People still give me a hard time about nursing. I get tired of

hearing, " So & So was formula fed and she/he is fine. " or " You are STILL

nursing?! " I guess it really does depend on a person's lifestyle and priorities

as to

how they feed their baby. Pumping at work really is the pits though...I am so

thankful to have the Medela Pump.

I read that something like only 14% of mom's breastfeed for the entire first

6 months. That is not many at all.

Freeman

November 14, 2004

In a message dated 11/14/2004 6:33:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,

mj_remington@... writes:

> You would think that they would have fed her your expressed milk!

> The colostrum (liquid gold as my mom puts it) is just full of

> antibodies and goood stuff!

>

> What a waste of all that effort, did you have the pump in hosp or did

> you have to express by hand like I did (what a pain - soo much effort

> for a few mls). I hear you re: the Medla pump, just awesome!

>

> My experience in hosp was the total opposite, they were so pro breast

> feeding that they had me expressing the colostrum and feeding it to

> Grace with a little dropper. The hosp really really encourages you to

> go watch this film on breastfeeding etc (very basic stuff)and then

> the lactation consultant asked if everyone would be breastfeeding,

> the one woman who said she wasn't going to was being cornered by the

> consultant as I was leaving the room. This is not right either, it is

> a personal choice for sure!

>

> I don't want to piss anyone off but we get a year of mat. leave in

> Canada...I don't know how you wonderful mommies do it, having to go

> back after only 4 mo's! There is no way I could even fit into any of

> my suit's at this point! Let alone the whole breastfeeding issue!

>

> &Grace )

>

Wow, A YEAR??? I am SO incredibly jealous. I was back at work before

Kaitlin was 6 weeks old. To top it off I was starting a BRAND new job at a new

hospital.

You would think that they would have done it that way. I don't think my

colostrum was even enough. They were giving her like 10-20 mls of formula which

is a lot to a baby that is less then a day old. I don't know what they were

thinking. They had a big industrial pump on wheels that I got to use. It was

so intimidating though. THe funniest part is that, babies are born with enough

fluid to last a few days and not be hungry. That is why there is so little

colostrum and they lose weight at first. I did not know that then though. I

have learned so much about breastfeeding that I would love to become a

lactation nurse, just to help people who were in the same boat as I was. I felt

like

something was wrong with me. There would be 2-3 nurses in the room, me

topless and they would repeatedly jam Kaitlins head to my boob, then pull her

off.

It was horrible. I really thought something was wrong at first. Luckily my

stepmom breastfed my sisters and convinced me otherwise.

1 year of maternity leave...WOW. Is that paid?? Does everyone get that?

WOW. I am SO jealous.

November 14, 2004

Im so happy to hear that so many of you are breastfeeding and

sticking with it. When I started 13 years ago, it wasnt the 'in'

thing to do and most of my friends bottle fed. My grandmother was a

big part of my success as she nursed both her kids til they were

about 3-4. That was a bit much for me but she really encouraged me to

keep going.

Getting started was always difficult for me and I had to use a

silicon nipple shield for the first 2-3 weeks to help the baby learn

to latch on and to help me getting over sore nipples. I was only able

to nurse Nova, my second daughter for 3 weeks b/c the hospital HAD

the shield and the lactation consultant refused to give it to me. We

didnt have internet access then so I didnt know it could be ordered

outside of the hospital.

I nursed Ethan until I got pregnant w/ Elijah and with the milk

changing, he weaned himself. Elijah's 7 months old, the caboose in

the family... and I get misty eyed when I think that one day he'll

wean and then Im done. That'll be all for me.

Anyway... best wishes to you all. Im proud of those that have stuck

w/ it!!!

Lori

and Elijah 7 mon atypical RCF DBB 23/7

November 14, 2004

Boy you really made me get misty eyed! My daughter is now

11months and will soon be weaned also. She too is our last and to

think when i started breastfeeding her it seemed like a long time

till she weaned but now she is almost one year old.

i too had trouble breastfeeding my first and with no one to help me

i gave up. but not with my daughter. she did so good and i got a lot

of help and encouragement and to think one day there will be no more

of that. BIG SIGH!

and

BL CF 12/16/03

>

> Im so happy to hear that so many of you are breastfeeding and

> sticking with it. When I started 13 years ago, it wasnt the 'in'

> thing to do and most of my friends bottle fed. My grandmother was

a

> big part of my success as she nursed both her kids til they were

> about 3-4. That was a bit much for me but she really encouraged me

to

> keep going.

>

> Getting started was always difficult for me and I had to use a

> silicon nipple shield for the first 2-3 weeks to help the baby

learn

> to latch on and to help me getting over sore nipples. I was only

able

> to nurse Nova, my second daughter for 3 weeks b/c the hospital HAD

> the shield and the lactation consultant refused to give it to me.

We

> didnt have internet access then so I didnt know it could be

ordered

> outside of the hospital.

>

> I nursed Ethan until I got pregnant w/ Elijah and with the milk

> changing, he weaned himself. Elijah's 7 months old, the caboose in

> the family... and I get misty eyed when I think that one day he'll

> wean and then Im done. That'll be all for me.

>

> Anyway... best wishes to you all. Im proud of those that have

stuck

> w/ it!!!

>

> Lori

> and Elijah 7 mon atypical RCF DBB 23/7

November 14, 2004

Boy you really made me get misty eyed! My daughter is now

11months and will soon be weaned also. She too is our last and to

think when i started breastfeeding her it seemed like a long time

till she weaned but now she is almost one year old.

i too had trouble breastfeeding my first and with no one to help me

i gave up. but not with my daughter. she did so good and i got a lot

of help and encouragement and to think one day there will be no more

of that. BIG SIGH!

and

BL CF 12/16/03

>

> Im so happy to hear that so many of you are breastfeeding and

> sticking with it. When I started 13 years ago, it wasnt the 'in'

> thing to do and most of my friends bottle fed. My grandmother was

a

> big part of my success as she nursed both her kids til they were

> about 3-4. That was a bit much for me but she really encouraged me

to

> keep going.

>

> Getting started was always difficult for me and I had to use a

> silicon nipple shield for the first 2-3 weeks to help the baby

learn

> to latch on and to help me getting over sore nipples. I was only

able

> to nurse Nova, my second daughter for 3 weeks b/c the hospital HAD

> the shield and the lactation consultant refused to give it to me.

We

> didnt have internet access then so I didnt know it could be

ordered

> outside of the hospital.

>

> I nursed Ethan until I got pregnant w/ Elijah and with the milk

> changing, he weaned himself. Elijah's 7 months old, the caboose in

> the family... and I get misty eyed when I think that one day he'll

> wean and then Im done. That'll be all for me.

>

> Anyway... best wishes to you all. Im proud of those that have

stuck

> w/ it!!!

>

> Lori

> and Elijah 7 mon atypical RCF DBB 23/7

November 14, 2004

In a message dated 11/14/2004 7:04:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,

mj_remington@... writes:

> what were three of them going

> to do??

Honestly, I don't think they had anything better to do, so they all tralloped

in and made something to do. Because feeding her formula was silly. That is

the ONLY time she ever had formula.

Wow, maybe I should move to Canada before I have my next baby! LOL! :-)

Freeman

November 14, 2004

In a message dated 11/14/2004 7:24:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,

gatorz5@... writes:

> I refer to her as the lactation

> Nazi now.

That is TOO funny. LOL!

Freeman

November 14, 2004

,

You would think that they would have fed her your expressed milk!

The colostrum (liquid gold as my mom puts it) is just full of

antibodies and goood stuff!

What a waste of all that effort, did you have the pump in hosp or did

you have to express by hand like I did (what a pain - soo much effort

for a few mls). I hear you re: the Medla pump, just awesome!

My experience in hosp was the total opposite, they were so pro breast

feeding that they had me expressing the colostrum and feeding it to

Grace with a little dropper. The hosp really really encourages you to

go watch this film on breastfeeding etc (very basic stuff)and then

the lactation consultant asked if everyone would be breastfeeding,

the one woman who said she wasn't going to was being cornered by the

consultant as I was leaving the room. This is not right either, it is

a personal choice for sure!

I don't want to piss anyone off but we get a year of mat. leave in

Canada...I don't know how you wonderful mommies do it, having to go

back after only 4 mo's! There is no way I could even fit into any of

my suit's at this point! Let alone the whole breastfeeding issue!

& Grace )

> Yes, I agree. Starting breastfeeding was the hardest

part. At the

> hospital, they kept saying that Kaitlin couldn't latch on right.

They gave her

> syringes of formula and then wondered why she didn't want to latch

on! In

> the mean time they made me pump. No wonder she wasn't

hungry...duh. When we

> got home (which they didn't want to let us go, since she didn't

latch correctly

> yet) we had no problems...she was hungry, so she got the hang

really quick.

> People still give me a hard time about nursing. I get tired

of

> hearing, " So & So was formula fed and she/he is fine. " or " You

are STILL

> nursing?! " I guess it really does depend on a person's lifestyle

and priorities as to

> how they feed their baby. Pumping at work really is the pits

though...I am so

> thankful to have the Medela Pump.

> I read that something like only 14% of mom's breastfeed for the

entire first

> 6 months. That is not many at all.

> Freeman

>

November 14, 2004

Three women in the room, how intimidating, no wonder you felt the

way you did, it's bad enough when you have problems latching on, you

don't need it turned into a spectical, what were three of them going

to do?? It is a good thing we had a support system! So many other new

moms don't and it's too bad because eventually you both will get the

hang of it (Lactaction consultant sounds very rewarding!) It is

strange that they were feeding her so much formula too, it's almost a

good thing you didn't know that she didn't need it...no need for any

extra anxiety!

Everyone in Canada gets one full year of maternity leave (used to be

six months, it changed a few years ago). You receive 55% of your

gross for the full year. I am so thankful!!! I quit smoking when I

found out I was pregnant and this helped me gain 70 pounds!! UGH! I

have taken off about half but I have a Looong way to go! I was

worried I was going to have a gargantious baby but she was 8.4 and

that was plenty big enough for me LOL!

& Grace )

> In a message dated 11/14/2004 6:33:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> mj_remington@y... writes:

>

> > You would think that they would have fed her your expressed

milk!

> > The colostrum (liquid gold as my mom puts it) is just full of

> > antibodies and goood stuff!

> >

> > What a waste of all that effort, did you have the pump in hosp or

did

> > you have to express by hand like I did (what a pain - soo much

effort

> > for a few mls). I hear you re: the Medla pump, just awesome!

> >

> > My experience in hosp was the total opposite, they were so pro

breast

> > feeding that they had me expressing the colostrum and feeding it

to

> > Grace with a little dropper. The hosp really really encourages

you to

> > go watch this film on breastfeeding etc (very basic stuff)and

then

> > the lactation consultant asked if everyone would be

breastfeeding,

> > the one woman who said she wasn't going to was being cornered by

the

> > consultant as I was leaving the room. This is not right either,

it is

> > a personal choice for sure!

> >

> > I don't want to piss anyone off but we get a year of mat. leave

in

> > Canada...I don't know how you wonderful mommies do it, having to

go

> > back after only 4 mo's! There is no way I could even fit into any

of

> > my suit's at this point! Let alone the whole breastfeeding issue!

> >

> > &Grace )

> >

>

> Wow, A YEAR??? I am SO incredibly jealous. I was back at work

before

> Kaitlin was 6 weeks old. To top it off I was starting a BRAND new

job at a new

> hospital.

> You would think that they would have done it that way. I don't

think my

> colostrum was even enough. They were giving her like 10-20 mls of

formula which

> is a lot to a baby that is less then a day old. I don't know what

they were

> thinking. They had a big industrial pump on wheels that I got to

use. It was

> so intimidating though. THe funniest part is that, babies are born

with enough

> fluid to last a few days and not be hungry. That is why there is so

little

> colostrum and they lose weight at first. I did not know that then

though. I

> have learned so much about breastfeeding that I would love to

become a

> lactation nurse, just to help people who were in the same boat as I

was. I felt like

> something was wrong with me. There would be 2-3 nurses in the

room, me

> topless and they would repeatedly jam Kaitlins head to my boob,

then pull her off.

> It was horrible. I really thought something was wrong at first.

Luckily my

> stepmom breastfed my sisters and convinced me otherwise.

>

> 1 year of maternity leave...WOW. Is that paid?? Does everyone get

that?

> WOW. I am SO jealous.

>

November 14, 2004

The lactation " specialist " I had w/ Nova... same one that refused to

give me the nipple shield was a short angry little German woman that

liked to shove Nova into me as well. I refer to her as the lactation

Nazi now. Here, they pushed me to give Ethan and Elijah both formula

but that was due to me being gest. diabetic and their sugars were

low. After that tho', they were pretty positive.

The military base has a breastfeeding support group that meets every

month and if you participate in the WIC program, they have a peer

counselor call you to make sure things are going well and see if you

need help at all.

A year of maternity leave is amazing! Im thankful to be able to stay

home full time. LOL ~~ With 4 kids, I could hardly afford the

childcare if I DID go back to work.

Lori

November 14, 2004

Lactation Nazi...hilar!! It's awesome that you are at home with your

little ones Lori, they are really lucky!!!

- & Grace

>

> The lactation " specialist " I had w/ Nova... same one that refused

to

> give me the nipple shield was a short angry little German woman

that

> liked to shove Nova into me as well. I refer to her as the

lactation

> Nazi now. Here, they pushed me to give Ethan and Elijah both

formula

> but that was due to me being gest. diabetic and their sugars were

> low. After that tho', they were pretty positive.

> The military base has a breastfeeding support group that meets

every

> month and if you participate in the WIC program, they have a peer

> counselor call you to make sure things are going well and see if

you

> need help at all.

>

> A year of maternity leave is amazing! Im thankful to be able to

stay

> home full time. LOL ~~ With 4 kids, I could hardly afford the

> childcare if I DID go back to work.

>

> Lori

November 14, 2004

We would LOVE to have ya, come on over!!! LOL

- & Grace

> In a message dated 11/14/2004 7:04:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> mj_remington@y... writes:

>

> > what were three of them going

> > to do??

>

> Honestly, I don't think they had anything better to do, so they all

tralloped

> in and made something to do. Because feeding her formula was

silly. That is

> the ONLY time she ever had formula.

> Wow, maybe I should move to Canada before I have my next baby!

LOL! :-)

>

> Freeman

>

November 15, 2004

Yes, we Canadians are lucky with the 1 year of mat. leave! Of

course, when I took my mat. leave with my first, it was 6

months...but STILL great! I ended up not returning to work and now

that we have 4, work (outside the home) is not even an option at

least until Owen starts school. I don't think that I even want to

return to a 'job', per se....I'd much rather do some volunteer work

either at the school or perhaps at the hospital (maybe the clubfoot

clinic?!).

Back to the mat. leave subject, my brother-in-law who is in the

Canadian Military, got 9 months of paid (about 97%) 'parental leave'

after his second daughter was born this past January. He said he

couldn't refuse because it would have cost him more to go to work

(gassing up the car for the daily commute). Gotta love it!

I think that the hospitals in Canada are very pro breastfeeding (for

the most part). After each of my children were born (c-sections),

they had me nursing in the recovery room. My second was a rather

long labour that resulted in a c-section anyway...I was very tired

and shakey and told the nurse that I wanted to wait until we were

moved to my room but she wouldn't take no for an answer...she pulled

the sheet down to expose my breast and plopped the baby 'barracuda'

down on me. LOL! That child was very demanding, even at minutes

old, and continues to be today!

Daiga and Owen, 02/04/03

Unilateral LCF, FAB 14/24

> >

> > The lactation " specialist " I had w/ Nova... same one that refused

> to

> > give me the nipple shield was a short angry little German woman

> that

> > liked to shove Nova into me as well. I refer to her as the

> lactation

> > Nazi now. Here, they pushed me to give Ethan and Elijah both

> formula

> > but that was due to me being gest. diabetic and their sugars were

> > low. After that tho', they were pretty positive.

> > The military base has a breastfeeding support group that meets

> every

> > month and if you participate in the WIC program, they have a peer

> > counselor call you to make sure things are going well and see if

> you

> > need help at all.

> >

> > A year of maternity leave is amazing! Im thankful to be able to

> stay

> > home full time. LOL ~~ With 4 kids, I could hardly afford the

> > childcare if I DID go back to work.

> >

> > Lori

November 15, 2004

> Back to the mat. leave subject, my brother-in-law who is in the

> Canadian Military, got 9 months of paid (about 97%) 'parental

leave'

> after his second daughter was born this past January. He said he

> couldn't refuse because it would have cost him more to go to work

> (gassing up the car for the daily commute). Gotta love it!

Another HUGE difference!! Drew left for a 6 month deployment when I

was 35 weeks pregnant w/ Elijah AND insulin dependent gest. diabetic

AND w/ 3 other kids to take care of. I had a girlfriend fly in from

San Diego for 2 weeks to be there w/ me and some friends from FL came

in to take care of the other three. They left the day after I came

home. So when Elijah was just a week old, I was on my own for the

next 4.5 months til Drew came home. We even tried to get him flown

out of the Gulf for Elijahs first surgery. We were told he could but

Id have to pay for it. After coming up with the $2K for the flights,

they told me that if he went, he'd have to be flown back, AT MY

EXPENSE as well and would have to give up the award that he'd just

received which was the main reason for him volunteering for the

deployment. Needless to say, I 'sucked it up' and he stayed til the

end. If that werent enough, he was home for 2 months roughly and left

again in October (on our daughters 13th bday) for another 2 month

stint. So by December, he'll have been gone 8 months and has only

seen Elijah for 2 months of his life. He was home just long enough to

be there for the 2nd surgery and to evacuate for a hurricane. (fun

fun, I still have boards on my windows lol)

When he came home after the 6 month cruise, he was supposed to get

some leave time due to the deployment + up to 20 days baby leave. He

came home on the 3rd and was called back early on the 16th and I

seriously doubt that when he comes home around T'giving that he'll

get any leave time them outside of the usual holiday downtime.

Lori

and Elijah 7.5 mo atypical RCF DBB 23/7

November 15, 2004

What is the Medela pump?

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