Update

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 04/14/2001 8:48:56 PM Central Daylight Time,

jjjwats@... writes:

<< I really feel fortunate not to have had any real complications and I know

I am one of the lucky ones! Glad to see your update. Jodie W.

Age 28 >>

Jodi,

You've got such a great attitude!! I know this was the perspective I also

tried to take.

Dawn

[Guest guest]

, that's great!! *grins* What kind of chewable vitamin and chewable calcium

do you take ? Do they taste okay, or are they bitter/too sweet ? I must say,

even when I was skinny those bike seats used to hurt after a while, so I don't

know if biking will be one of my activities after I'm post op! *grins* Keep us

posted, it's always great for us pre-ops to hear about those things you can do

again or never would have thought of doing before WLS! (Within limit, of course,

I don't think we need to know about any new bedroom acrobatics **lol**)

Anita

Pre-pre-op in Denver

> I have lost 20 lbs in 16 days. wooohooooo. I am now under 300. I

> have not been under 300 pounds in almost 2 years. I am feeling great

> and plan on going back to work on Monday. I am going to work half

> days for the next two weeks and then go back to my regular schedule.

> I am going back to work 1 week earlier than planned. I am still

> eating soft mushy foods and tolerate everything I eat. I am able to

> eat only about 3-4 oz at a time and everything tastes great. I am

> even having coffee in the morning, but it takes me an hour to drink a

> cup but oh how it makes me feel like I am starting my day normally.

>

> Here is an example of how I am eating:

>

> I get up between 6-7 and start my day with coffee

> About 7:30 I take my chewable vitamin, chewable calcium, 2 dairy

> care, and my prilosec, crushed, with 3 oz of sugar free fat free

> pudding made with lactaid milk.

> In between 8:30 and 10 I have 1 egg beater egg with 2 oz of fat free

> cheese

> Around noon I have my designer protein drink and 2 more dairy care

> After drinking that I have to wait at least an hour before I can have

> lunch, which is 3oz of meatloaf or fish or 3 little chicken nuggets

> baked and a chewable calcium tablet.

> Then I have dinner anywhere between 5-7 and it consists of the same

> thing as lunch only add a chewable vitamin and chewable calcium

> Snack is pudding

>

> I average 70 grams of protein a day this way and my nutritionalist

> thinks it is great. She thinks after next week when I graduate to

> more solid foods that my protein will hit between 80-90 with no

> problems.

>

> I have not taken a nap all week and sleep at least 7-8 hours a

> night. I am sleeping on both sides now with nothing to prop me up in

> bed. The first night after returning home from NYC when I got in my

> own wonderful bed, I cried. It felt so good. I have not used a prop

> since I returned home. In NYC, we folded both bedspreads and put

> them under the head of the bed and it gave me enough lift to be

> comfortable with one pillow under my head and a pillow under my

> knees. Bob keeps me running half the day here there and everywhere,

> he calls it bumming. I started walking at the gym on the treadmill

> but can only make it about 1/3 of a mile comfortably. But add an

> hour in Wal Mart, Menards, Dunhams or the grocery store and I know I

> am getting enough exercise.

> We bought me some new golf shoes today and plan on hitting the links

> next weekend. I can not wait till my belly does not get in the way

> of my swing. We figure if I can only play a few holes to start with

> that is ok. I will drive the cart. lol

> All in all, I have had a wonderful recovery and feel like I am on my

> way to a wonderful adventure. My PCP's nurse saw me in the store

> yesterday and she suggested bicycling with her and I told her that

> when my butt is no longer a traffic hazard I will be glad to.

>

> Story to be continued.............

>

> Viau, 325 lbs lost 9 lbs before surgery

> switched 3/29/01 weighed in at 316

> 4/14/01 weighed in at 296

> total of 28 pounds gone forever

> http://www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html

>

> Dr Ren, NYUMC http://www.med.nyu.edu/bariatric/

>

> Watch MSNBC Investigates on 4/18 at 8pm EST to see " The Last Chance "

> for details and channels for your viewing area

> http://www.msnbc.com

[Guest guest]

:

Sounds wonderful.... gee, I hope my recovery goes

half as well. Keep up the good work.

Caroline

--- wannabemagic@...> wrote:

> I have lost 20 lbs in 16 days. wooohooooo. I am

> now under 300. I

> have not been under 300 pounds in almost 2 years. I

> am feeling great

> and plan on going back to work on Monday. I am

> going to work half

> days for the next two weeks and then go back to my

> regular schedule.

> I am going back to work 1 week earlier than planned.

> I am still

> eating soft mushy foods and tolerate everything I

> eat. I am able to

> eat only about 3-4 oz at a time and everything

> tastes great. I am

> even having coffee in the morning, but it takes me

> an hour to drink a

> cup but oh how it makes me feel like I am starting

> my day normally.

>

> Here is an example of how I am eating:

>

> I get up between 6-7 and start my day with coffee

> About 7:30 I take my chewable vitamin, chewable

> calcium, 2 dairy

> care, and my prilosec, crushed, with 3 oz of sugar

> free fat free

> pudding made with lactaid milk.

> In between 8:30 and 10 I have 1 egg beater egg with

> 2 oz of fat free

> cheese

> Around noon I have my designer protein drink and 2

> more dairy care

> After drinking that I have to wait at least an hour

> before I can have

> lunch, which is 3oz of meatloaf or fish or 3 little

> chicken nuggets

> baked and a chewable calcium tablet.

> Then I have dinner anywhere between 5-7 and it

> consists of the same

> thing as lunch only add a chewable vitamin and

> chewable calcium

> Snack is pudding

>

> I average 70 grams of protein a day this way and my

> nutritionalist

> thinks it is great. She thinks after next week when

> I graduate to

> more solid foods that my protein will hit between

> 80-90 with no

> problems.

>

> I have not taken a nap all week and sleep at least

> 7-8 hours a

> night. I am sleeping on both sides now with nothing

> to prop me up in

> bed. The first night after returning home from NYC

> when I got in my

> own wonderful bed, I cried. It felt so good. I

> have not used a prop

> since I returned home. In NYC, we folded both

> bedspreads and put

> them under the head of the bed and it gave me enough

> lift to be

> comfortable with one pillow under my head and a

> pillow under my

> knees. Bob keeps me running half the day here there

> and everywhere,

> he calls it bumming. I started walking at the gym

> on the treadmill

> but can only make it about 1/3 of a mile

> comfortably. But add an

> hour in Wal Mart, Menards, Dunhams or the grocery

> store and I know I

> am getting enough exercise.

> We bought me some new golf shoes today and plan on

> hitting the links

> next weekend. I can not wait till my belly does not

> get in the way

> of my swing. We figure if I can only play a few

> holes to start with

> that is ok. I will drive the cart. lol

> All in all, I have had a wonderful recovery and feel

> like I am on my

> way to a wonderful adventure. My PCP's nurse saw me

> in the store

> yesterday and she suggested bicycling with her and I

> told her that

> when my butt is no longer a traffic hazard I will be

> glad to.

>

> Story to be continued.............

>

> Viau, 325 lbs lost 9 lbs before surgery

> switched 3/29/01 weighed in at 316

> 4/14/01 weighed in at 296

> total of 28 pounds gone forever

> http://www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html

>

> Dr Ren, NYUMC

> http://www.med.nyu.edu/bariatric/

>

> Watch MSNBC Investigates on 4/18 at 8pm EST to see

> " The Last Chance "

> for details and channels for your viewing area

> http://www.msnbc.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

--- wannabemagic@...> wrote:

> I have lost 20 lbs in 16 days. wooohooooo.

Way to go !

=====

Age 41

BMI 61

Consult 6/7/01

Dr. Herron

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

--well, all i can say is WOW!!!!!! that is so great---I have

been having this dream at night that is almost identical to your post

about your uneventful recovery--that is my plan--so thanks for

sharing & letting me read that it is truly possible. Keep us updated

on your progress. take good care.

ogretta

pre-op

may 11, 2001

dr inabnet

> I have lost 20 lbs in 16 days. wooohooooo. I am now under 300.

I

> have not been under 300 pounds in almost 2 years. I am feeling

great

> and plan on going back to work on Monday. I am going to work half

> days for the next two weeks and then go back to my regular

schedule.

> I am going back to work 1 week earlier than planned. I am still

> eating soft mushy foods and tolerate everything I eat. I am able

to

> eat only about 3-4 oz at a time and everything tastes great. I am

> even having coffee in the morning, but it takes me an hour to drink

a

> cup but oh how it makes me feel like I am starting my day normally.

>

> Here is an example of how I am eating:

>

> I get up between 6-7 and start my day with coffee

> About 7:30 I take my chewable vitamin, chewable calcium, 2 dairy

> care, and my prilosec, crushed, with 3 oz of sugar free fat free

> pudding made with lactaid milk.

> In between 8:30 and 10 I have 1 egg beater egg with 2 oz of fat

free

> cheese

> Around noon I have my designer protein drink and 2 more dairy care

> After drinking that I have to wait at least an hour before I can

have

> lunch, which is 3oz of meatloaf or fish or 3 little chicken nuggets

> baked and a chewable calcium tablet.

> Then I have dinner anywhere between 5-7 and it consists of the same

> thing as lunch only add a chewable vitamin and chewable calcium

> Snack is pudding

>

> I average 70 grams of protein a day this way and my nutritionalist

> thinks it is great. She thinks after next week when I graduate to

> more solid foods that my protein will hit between 80-90 with no

> problems.

>

> I have not taken a nap all week and sleep at least 7-8 hours a

> night. I am sleeping on both sides now with nothing to prop me up

in

> bed. The first night after returning home from NYC when I got in

my

> own wonderful bed, I cried. It felt so good. I have not used a

prop

> since I returned home. In NYC, we folded both bedspreads and put

> them under the head of the bed and it gave me enough lift to be

> comfortable with one pillow under my head and a pillow under my

> knees. Bob keeps me running half the day here there and

everywhere,

> he calls it bumming. I started walking at the gym on the treadmill

> but can only make it about 1/3 of a mile comfortably. But add an

> hour in Wal Mart, Menards, Dunhams or the grocery store and I know

I

> am getting enough exercise.

> We bought me some new golf shoes today and plan on hitting the

links

> next weekend. I can not wait till my belly does not get in the way

> of my swing. We figure if I can only play a few holes to start

with

> that is ok. I will drive the cart. lol

> All in all, I have had a wonderful recovery and feel like I am on

my

> way to a wonderful adventure. My PCP's nurse saw me in the store

> yesterday and she suggested bicycling with her and I told her that

> when my butt is no longer a traffic hazard I will be glad to.

>

> Story to be continued.............

>

> Viau, 325 lbs lost 9 lbs before surgery

> switched 3/29/01 weighed in at 316

> 4/14/01 weighed in at 296

> total of 28 pounds gone forever

> http://www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html

>

> Dr Ren, NYUMC http://www.med.nyu.edu/bariatric/

>

> Watch MSNBC Investigates on 4/18 at 8pm EST to see " The Last Chance "

> for details and channels for your viewing area

> http://www.msnbc.com

[Guest guest]

--well, all i can say is WOW!!!!!! that is so great---I have

been having this dream at night that is almost identical to your post

about your uneventful recovery--that is my plan--so thanks for

sharing & letting me read that it is truly possible. Keep us updated

on your progress. take good care.

ogretta

pre-op

may 11, 2001

dr inabnet

> I have lost 20 lbs in 16 days. wooohooooo. I am now under 300.

I

> have not been under 300 pounds in almost 2 years. I am feeling

great

> and plan on going back to work on Monday. I am going to work half

> days for the next two weeks and then go back to my regular

schedule.

> I am going back to work 1 week earlier than planned. I am still

> eating soft mushy foods and tolerate everything I eat. I am able

to

> eat only about 3-4 oz at a time and everything tastes great. I am

> even having coffee in the morning, but it takes me an hour to drink

a

> cup but oh how it makes me feel like I am starting my day normally.

>

> Here is an example of how I am eating:

>

> I get up between 6-7 and start my day with coffee

> About 7:30 I take my chewable vitamin, chewable calcium, 2 dairy

> care, and my prilosec, crushed, with 3 oz of sugar free fat free

> pudding made with lactaid milk.

> In between 8:30 and 10 I have 1 egg beater egg with 2 oz of fat

free

> cheese

> Around noon I have my designer protein drink and 2 more dairy care

> After drinking that I have to wait at least an hour before I can

have

> lunch, which is 3oz of meatloaf or fish or 3 little chicken nuggets

> baked and a chewable calcium tablet.

> Then I have dinner anywhere between 5-7 and it consists of the same

> thing as lunch only add a chewable vitamin and chewable calcium

> Snack is pudding

>

> I average 70 grams of protein a day this way and my nutritionalist

> thinks it is great. She thinks after next week when I graduate to

> more solid foods that my protein will hit between 80-90 with no

> problems.

>

> I have not taken a nap all week and sleep at least 7-8 hours a

> night. I am sleeping on both sides now with nothing to prop me up

in

> bed. The first night after returning home from NYC when I got in

my

> own wonderful bed, I cried. It felt so good. I have not used a

prop

> since I returned home. In NYC, we folded both bedspreads and put

> them under the head of the bed and it gave me enough lift to be

> comfortable with one pillow under my head and a pillow under my

> knees. Bob keeps me running half the day here there and

everywhere,

> he calls it bumming. I started walking at the gym on the treadmill

> but can only make it about 1/3 of a mile comfortably. But add an

> hour in Wal Mart, Menards, Dunhams or the grocery store and I know

I

> am getting enough exercise.

> We bought me some new golf shoes today and plan on hitting the

links

> next weekend. I can not wait till my belly does not get in the way

> of my swing. We figure if I can only play a few holes to start

with

> that is ok. I will drive the cart. lol

> All in all, I have had a wonderful recovery and feel like I am on

my

> way to a wonderful adventure. My PCP's nurse saw me in the store

> yesterday and she suggested bicycling with her and I told her that

> when my butt is no longer a traffic hazard I will be glad to.

>

> Story to be continued.............

>

> Viau, 325 lbs lost 9 lbs before surgery

> switched 3/29/01 weighed in at 316

> 4/14/01 weighed in at 296

> total of 28 pounds gone forever

> http://www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html

>

> Dr Ren, NYUMC http://www.med.nyu.edu/bariatric/

>

> Watch MSNBC Investigates on 4/18 at 8pm EST to see " The Last Chance "

> for details and channels for your viewing area

> http://www.msnbc.com

[Guest guest]

--well, all i can say is WOW!!!!!! that is so great---I have

been having this dream at night that is almost identical to your post

about your uneventful recovery--that is my plan--so thanks for

sharing & letting me read that it is truly possible. Keep us updated

on your progress. take good care.

ogretta

pre-op

may 11, 2001

dr inabnet

> I have lost 20 lbs in 16 days. wooohooooo. I am now under 300.

I

> have not been under 300 pounds in almost 2 years. I am feeling

great

> and plan on going back to work on Monday. I am going to work half

> days for the next two weeks and then go back to my regular

schedule.

> I am going back to work 1 week earlier than planned. I am still

> eating soft mushy foods and tolerate everything I eat. I am able

to

> eat only about 3-4 oz at a time and everything tastes great. I am

> even having coffee in the morning, but it takes me an hour to drink

a

> cup but oh how it makes me feel like I am starting my day normally.

>

> Here is an example of how I am eating:

>

> I get up between 6-7 and start my day with coffee

> About 7:30 I take my chewable vitamin, chewable calcium, 2 dairy

> care, and my prilosec, crushed, with 3 oz of sugar free fat free

> pudding made with lactaid milk.

> In between 8:30 and 10 I have 1 egg beater egg with 2 oz of fat

free

> cheese

> Around noon I have my designer protein drink and 2 more dairy care

> After drinking that I have to wait at least an hour before I can

have

> lunch, which is 3oz of meatloaf or fish or 3 little chicken nuggets

> baked and a chewable calcium tablet.

> Then I have dinner anywhere between 5-7 and it consists of the same

> thing as lunch only add a chewable vitamin and chewable calcium

> Snack is pudding

>

> I average 70 grams of protein a day this way and my nutritionalist

> thinks it is great. She thinks after next week when I graduate to

> more solid foods that my protein will hit between 80-90 with no

> problems.

>

> I have not taken a nap all week and sleep at least 7-8 hours a

> night. I am sleeping on both sides now with nothing to prop me up

in

> bed. The first night after returning home from NYC when I got in

my

> own wonderful bed, I cried. It felt so good. I have not used a

prop

> since I returned home. In NYC, we folded both bedspreads and put

> them under the head of the bed and it gave me enough lift to be

> comfortable with one pillow under my head and a pillow under my

> knees. Bob keeps me running half the day here there and

everywhere,

> he calls it bumming. I started walking at the gym on the treadmill

> but can only make it about 1/3 of a mile comfortably. But add an

> hour in Wal Mart, Menards, Dunhams or the grocery store and I know

I

> am getting enough exercise.

> We bought me some new golf shoes today and plan on hitting the

links

> next weekend. I can not wait till my belly does not get in the way

> of my swing. We figure if I can only play a few holes to start

with

> that is ok. I will drive the cart. lol

> All in all, I have had a wonderful recovery and feel like I am on

my

> way to a wonderful adventure. My PCP's nurse saw me in the store

> yesterday and she suggested bicycling with her and I told her that

> when my butt is no longer a traffic hazard I will be glad to.

>

> Story to be continued.............

>

> Viau, 325 lbs lost 9 lbs before surgery

> switched 3/29/01 weighed in at 316

> 4/14/01 weighed in at 296

> total of 28 pounds gone forever

> http://www.angelfire.com/on/wannabemagic/WLS.html

>

> Dr Ren, NYUMC http://www.med.nyu.edu/bariatric/

>

> Watch MSNBC Investigates on 4/18 at 8pm EST to see " The Last Chance "

> for details and channels for your viewing area

> http://www.msnbc.com

[Guest guest]

Try adding a few drops of lemon juice to your water or decaf tea to

help with that " heavy " feeling. It helped me.

> Congradulations ! I thought my recovery was going well until

I read yours! WOW. I'm still on liquids and have not had nausea or

anything until today. Every time I drink something I get

this " heavy " feeling almost like gas but I don't know what I could

have drank to make me feel that way all day. Hopefully better

tomorrow. I'm also not sleeping as well as you and each time I set

the alarm clock to get up and go to the gym in the morning I end up

awake for hours at night. I've been thinking about taking tylenol PM

but don't know if I can so soon yet. But enough complaining! I

really feel fortunate not to have had any real complications and I

know I am one of the lucky ones! Glad to see your update. Jodie W.

> Age 28

> BMI 49.9

> Dr. Hess

> March 28, 01/325 lbs

> Paid By Coresource and Aetna

> 04-06-01 Down 20 pounds!

> 04-09-01 297 1/2 lbs Down 27 1/2 lbs!

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Try adding a few drops of lemon juice to your water or decaf tea to

help with that " heavy " feeling. It helped me.

> Congradulations ! I thought my recovery was going well until

I read yours! WOW. I'm still on liquids and have not had nausea or

anything until today. Every time I drink something I get

this " heavy " feeling almost like gas but I don't know what I could

have drank to make me feel that way all day. Hopefully better

tomorrow. I'm also not sleeping as well as you and each time I set

the alarm clock to get up and go to the gym in the morning I end up

awake for hours at night. I've been thinking about taking tylenol PM

but don't know if I can so soon yet. But enough complaining! I

really feel fortunate not to have had any real complications and I

know I am one of the lucky ones! Glad to see your update. Jodie W.

> Age 28

> BMI 49.9

> Dr. Hess

> March 28, 01/325 lbs

> Paid By Coresource and Aetna

> 04-06-01 Down 20 pounds!

> 04-09-01 297 1/2 lbs Down 27 1/2 lbs!

>

>

>

>

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> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

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[Guest guest]

Try adding a few drops of lemon juice to your water or decaf tea to

help with that " heavy " feeling. It helped me.

> Congradulations ! I thought my recovery was going well until

I read yours! WOW. I'm still on liquids and have not had nausea or

anything until today. Every time I drink something I get

this " heavy " feeling almost like gas but I don't know what I could

have drank to make me feel that way all day. Hopefully better

tomorrow. I'm also not sleeping as well as you and each time I set

the alarm clock to get up and go to the gym in the morning I end up

awake for hours at night. I've been thinking about taking tylenol PM

but don't know if I can so soon yet. But enough complaining! I

really feel fortunate not to have had any real complications and I

know I am one of the lucky ones! Glad to see your update. Jodie W.

> Age 28

> BMI 49.9

> Dr. Hess

> March 28, 01/325 lbs

> Paid By Coresource and Aetna

> 04-06-01 Down 20 pounds!

> 04-09-01 297 1/2 lbs Down 27 1/2 lbs!

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Good luck to you, Angel! I just found out from Cigna that I finally have an

inventory # and they'll be calling me to let me know the current status of

my " quest. " I'll be swinging that chicken for you with thanks that you're

doing some groundbreaking for the rest of us Cigna people.

Marcia

> Update

>

>

> HI All,

> Just an update on what's going on with my " quest for approval " . I

> made my " check-up " calls today. Here's what I found out:

> 1. Riverside Hospital (the place where I had my gastric stapling in

> 1980) has gone back into the archives and finally found my surgical

> records and I should have them in a day or two.

> 2. I called my contact, Tammy, at Cigna Ins. Co. and she told me that

> the Medical Director was sending Dr. Hess' report and my letters,

> pictures etc.,to (I think she called it), a Medical Review Board. She

> said it would be about a week before I would get a determination and

> she would call me first thing she heard. Does anyone know what this

> means (maybe just a reason to back up a no?) Or maybe it could mean

> that they are taking my request seriously (and the increasing

> requests of others)for the BPD/DS surgery.

> 3. My doctor has agreed to sign a letter I wrote (thanks to a sweet

> soul, LeeAnn, whose letter to her insurance co. she let me use as a

> basis for mine). She even thanked me for typing it up for her. She

> said she'd have her secretary type it up again on their letterhead

> and sent it to me so I could have it for my consult.

> 4. The cardiologist said he had heard of the DS and was glad to give

> me a letter for the insurance co. requesting I be approved for the DS.

> 5. I will be lining up the Doctor who does my sleep apnea test and my

> nephrologist to also write up a letter of recommentation. So with Dr.

> Hess' letter, that's 1 Dr. and 4 specialist who are willing to

> recommend I have the BPD/DS. Surely the insurance co. can't ingnore

> all 5!

> 6. And last but best of all, my consult has been moved up to May 24th

> (from June 28th)! YEAH! Only I'll be seeing Dr. Oakley instead of Dr.

> Hess. Dr. Oakley has just recently joined Dr. Hess' office if I

> understand it correctly. Has anyone had surgery with Dr. Oakley? I'm

> sure if he's in with Dr. Hess he must be a very good surgeon.

> Anyway, I feel like slowly but surely I'm getting somewhere. I'll

> feel a heck of a whole lot better though when I have that final

> approval from Cigna! Keep it in your prayers, they've been heard

> before and I feel confident they'll be heard again! Thanks to all!

> Cautiously excited, Angel

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Good luck to you, Angel! I just found out from Cigna that I finally have an

inventory # and they'll be calling me to let me know the current status of

my " quest. " I'll be swinging that chicken for you with thanks that you're

doing some groundbreaking for the rest of us Cigna people.

Marcia

> Update

>

>

> HI All,

> Just an update on what's going on with my " quest for approval " . I

> made my " check-up " calls today. Here's what I found out:

> 1. Riverside Hospital (the place where I had my gastric stapling in

> 1980) has gone back into the archives and finally found my surgical

> records and I should have them in a day or two.

> 2. I called my contact, Tammy, at Cigna Ins. Co. and she told me that

> the Medical Director was sending Dr. Hess' report and my letters,

> pictures etc.,to (I think she called it), a Medical Review Board. She

> said it would be about a week before I would get a determination and

> she would call me first thing she heard. Does anyone know what this

> means (maybe just a reason to back up a no?) Or maybe it could mean

> that they are taking my request seriously (and the increasing

> requests of others)for the BPD/DS surgery.

> 3. My doctor has agreed to sign a letter I wrote (thanks to a sweet

> soul, LeeAnn, whose letter to her insurance co. she let me use as a

> basis for mine). She even thanked me for typing it up for her. She

> said she'd have her secretary type it up again on their letterhead

> and sent it to me so I could have it for my consult.

> 4. The cardiologist said he had heard of the DS and was glad to give

> me a letter for the insurance co. requesting I be approved for the DS.

> 5. I will be lining up the Doctor who does my sleep apnea test and my

> nephrologist to also write up a letter of recommentation. So with Dr.

> Hess' letter, that's 1 Dr. and 4 specialist who are willing to

> recommend I have the BPD/DS. Surely the insurance co. can't ingnore

> all 5!

> 6. And last but best of all, my consult has been moved up to May 24th

> (from June 28th)! YEAH! Only I'll be seeing Dr. Oakley instead of Dr.

> Hess. Dr. Oakley has just recently joined Dr. Hess' office if I

> understand it correctly. Has anyone had surgery with Dr. Oakley? I'm

> sure if he's in with Dr. Hess he must be a very good surgeon.

> Anyway, I feel like slowly but surely I'm getting somewhere. I'll

> feel a heck of a whole lot better though when I have that final

> approval from Cigna! Keep it in your prayers, they've been heard

> before and I feel confident they'll be heard again! Thanks to all!

> Cautiously excited, Angel

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Good luck to you, Angel! I just found out from Cigna that I finally have an

inventory # and they'll be calling me to let me know the current status of

my " quest. " I'll be swinging that chicken for you with thanks that you're

doing some groundbreaking for the rest of us Cigna people.

Marcia

> Update

>

>

> HI All,

> Just an update on what's going on with my " quest for approval " . I

> made my " check-up " calls today. Here's what I found out:

> 1. Riverside Hospital (the place where I had my gastric stapling in

> 1980) has gone back into the archives and finally found my surgical

> records and I should have them in a day or two.

> 2. I called my contact, Tammy, at Cigna Ins. Co. and she told me that

> the Medical Director was sending Dr. Hess' report and my letters,

> pictures etc.,to (I think she called it), a Medical Review Board. She

> said it would be about a week before I would get a determination and

> she would call me first thing she heard. Does anyone know what this

> means (maybe just a reason to back up a no?) Or maybe it could mean

> that they are taking my request seriously (and the increasing

> requests of others)for the BPD/DS surgery.

> 3. My doctor has agreed to sign a letter I wrote (thanks to a sweet

> soul, LeeAnn, whose letter to her insurance co. she let me use as a

> basis for mine). She even thanked me for typing it up for her. She

> said she'd have her secretary type it up again on their letterhead

> and sent it to me so I could have it for my consult.

> 4. The cardiologist said he had heard of the DS and was glad to give

> me a letter for the insurance co. requesting I be approved for the DS.

> 5. I will be lining up the Doctor who does my sleep apnea test and my

> nephrologist to also write up a letter of recommentation. So with Dr.

> Hess' letter, that's 1 Dr. and 4 specialist who are willing to

> recommend I have the BPD/DS. Surely the insurance co. can't ingnore

> all 5!

> 6. And last but best of all, my consult has been moved up to May 24th

> (from June 28th)! YEAH! Only I'll be seeing Dr. Oakley instead of Dr.

> Hess. Dr. Oakley has just recently joined Dr. Hess' office if I

> understand it correctly. Has anyone had surgery with Dr. Oakley? I'm

> sure if he's in with Dr. Hess he must be a very good surgeon.

> Anyway, I feel like slowly but surely I'm getting somewhere. I'll

> feel a heck of a whole lot better though when I have that final

> approval from Cigna! Keep it in your prayers, they've been heard

> before and I feel confident they'll be heard again! Thanks to all!

> Cautiously excited, Angel

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

I'm way behind on this list and just saw this message. That's great about

hearing better with his new implant and saying " Mom " ... must've

brought tears to your eyes!

still has hearing aids and hears fine with them, but we're still

considering more surgery in the future.

Happy birthday to the triplets!

- Joe

> Hi everyone,

>

> Just thought I'd give you all a quick update.

>

> He's been doing very well. In fact, from last July until November he gained

> almost 6 lbs. and 2 " . He's sitting at 36 lbs. and 38 " as of November.

> He'll be turning 5 years old next month. We're holding off on GH for now,

> but know at some point it will be addressed. We see Dr. H regulary about

> every 3-4 months and we're able to avoid GH for now. Due to his scoliosis,

> we're unsure what GH will do to his back, so for me, the longer we can hold

> off on GH the better. He's still hooked up to the pump just at night for a

> 500 calorie continuous feed of Peptamen Jr. He's also on periactin 2X/day.

>

> As far as his hearing goes, was reimplanted with a new Cochlear

> Implant just last December. This new implant was activited January 4th and

> he's officially hearing with this one. His old implant didn't give him much

> hearing so 's relied soley on ASL to communicate. We're continuing

> with the ASL but hope someday he can hear well enough with his new

implant

> that we can drop some of the ASL. We'll see. For now, is

> responding to his name when called in a quiet setting plus he can say

" Mom. "

> He never heard an M before so for him so say M it was hard. He says his

> name real clear now too.

>

> That's it for now. Welcome to all the new members out there. I've been

> more on the quiet side as far as posting goes, but I do read most of the

> posts.

>

> Take Care.

>

> Cheryl

> Mom to , , and - all turning " 5 " February 9th. I

> can't believe that much time has gone by already.

[Guest guest]

and Bob,

Sorry to hear about . Thank goodness things are looking up! I'll

keep you all in my prayers. Let us know how things go!

Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 14 months, 11# 13oz, 24.75 " , GT)

[Guest guest]

Great to hear is doing better. I have been there with Janelle and the

vomit/fever/dehydration thing and they do look bad when it happens. I am

glad you all kept pressing the issue and got him to the ER.

--

Jovanovich

****Please note - our NEW e-mail address

laura@...

" bgmathis2002@...>

Reply-To: RSS-Support

Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:39:21 -0000

To: RSS-Support

Subject: update

Resent-From: laura@...

Resent-To: bugwilder@...

Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:42:43 -0600

" has the nasty stomach virus that's going around and was

vomiting last night at dinner and in his crib. He went to the ped

today and weighed in at 19-4 which was a little bit of a loss. He's a

little lethargic and has a low fever. Oh I hope it goes away soon. "

Tuesday night, vomited again and we became worried due to the

RSS and because he had horrible diarrhea all day. Given the fact he

has no storage reserves to burn off of, we were worried he was

dehydrated and might start to burn off his muscle mass...his face was

starting to look like a skeleton covered with skin.

We ended up calling the peds office and still weren't sure what to

do. Would he be okay for another 10 - 12 hours until the peds office

opened the next morning or would he have problems due to waiting so

long if he was dehydrated?

We called Kaiser's advice line and the nurse said she couldn't

officially help us due to our plan, but told us that her opinion was

to call our peds again because someone needed to see him in in the

next few hours. We called the peds again and after speaking with the

Dr. we felt we needed to take him to the emergency room.

They did some blood work and found 's electrolytes were 'all over

the place' and he was dehydrated. has been in the hospital with

the past two nights. I saw him last night and he had his little

cheeks back .

He still isn't eating much and I'm not sure he'll come home tonight

but at least he's getting better. They want him to be able to eat and

keep it in before they release him.

Bob, dad to (31/2), (23 months and RSS), and (8

months).

[Guest guest]

Hi Debby:-)

If you have a sinus decongestant take one of those because a lot of pain in

upper teeth that is also in your face could be sinus pressure too. I hope

you get out of pain soon. It is always so hard to live with.

--

Jovanovich

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laura@...

Reply-To: RSS-Support

Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:16:32 -0500

To: MAGIC_list >

Cc: RSS-Support >

Subject: update

Resent-From: laura@...

Resent-To: bugwilder@...

Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:20:52 -0600

OK now I've caught up on the emails I'll tell you all about the week.

Recall Tuesday night was Adam's sleep study. Well the weather people were

forecasting a huge snowstorm that night (they were right, we got 20 cm).

Adam was quite cooperative about falling asleep this time and was out by

9:30

As you guys know I have the herniated disk and my back did not like the cot.

On top of that, when I called and asked about blankets, and they said they

had them........I forgot to ask (didn't think I needed to!!!!!) what do you

call a blanket?? Ended up being a top sheet made of flannel. BIG DEAL.

Thankfully I had brought this super warm blanket I have that folds up to

look like a dish towel.

However, I unexpectedly had to go to the dentist during the day on Tuesday.

I was in agony.....horrible pain. Found out I had 3 teeth with fractures in

them (probably the result of gnashing my teeth at the principal LOL.......no

seriously, probably grinding/clenching from the pain in my back ).

About 1 a.m. during the sleep study the technician came into the room to fix

a wire that had come undone on Adam. I, of course, immediately jumped up

(did so most of the night every time he stirred) and the tech. said " Adam is

doing well......but you on the other hand, I can't get an accurate sound

recording of Adam's breathing because of YOUR snoring. " She went on to say I

definitely have sleep apnea as she could hear the loud snores followed by

long periods of silence.

Well add that to my list of things to check out (guess that's the downside

to sleeping alone for 7 years.....no one to complain 'you snore'!!!! LOL)

We were woken up at 5:30 a.m. By the time they got the wires etc. off and we

got dressed it was 6:30 a.m. The tech said " go downstairs, eat breakfast,

then come back to the play room and the doc will come and give you the

results around 8:30 "

I had already turned on the weather channel and the roads were awful (even

at that time). So I asked if anyone from the sleep study clinic would be

around at 8:30....she said no. I asked if the doc *could* be delayed by the

storm, she didn't know.........so I asked who I could speak to if he WAS

late to say I was leaving, she said " no one " . So I said " well just write on

my chart that we left now due to the storm and he can call me " .

So I drove home in the snowstorm. What an adventure. Still in agony with the

teeth.

Then I went to see the pain specialist appt. for my back. Yeh yeh, big deal

there. He says " well you *shouldn't* still be in this much pain this long

into it " . Great another male trying to diminish my feelings!! UGH. So he

decides it must be a structural problem I was born with and I should get

orthodics bla bla bla. The follow up to that appt. is March 17th.

On to the dentist who takes all the fillings out of 2 of the teeth (he

decides to do the lower one " next time " ). I was lucky (if you call it that)

that I didn't need root cannel.

Ok fine, go home totally drained. I got a call (finally) from my union rep.

As if I needed to go through the principal issues that night of all nights.

But we'd played phone tag for too long. She went nuts....make a long story

short she confirmed I am being harassed, it's against all rules and said I

needed to get all my documentation together and she would come with me to

see the principal's boss to put a stop to this. She was angry!!!

I was so exhausted.

I still have no results on the sleep study. I will book MY SLEEP STUDY soon

as I can get in to see my GP.

And I'm off to the dentist TOMORROW because I can't move my mouth. I can't

eat or drink anything and live with an ice pack on my face (it's hard to

type with it!!! LOL). It appears all 3 teeth are now infected. But I can't

handle the screaming pain in my face without any relief. Tylenol 3's

(prescription pain killers) don't even take the edge off.

The good news is that at least I am now on March Break. I would love to

crawl UNDER the bed until the 18th when we go back........but now between

the kids and myself we have doctor appts. every day of the March Break.

Never rains but it pours.......no no no .....that's not right.....it never

snows but it blizzards!!!!! THERE!!!

Thanks for listening

Debby

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the suggestion. I started to run (I mean RUN) to my medicine box

to get some sinus pills but then thought better of it with all the other

meds I am taking........it won't be good.

Just about a 1/2 hour ago I decided to *try* to eat a peanut butter

sandwich. Nice, soft, moist, white bread. I accidentally bit down on the

left side (that's the bad side) and I just screamed!

I am not a wiener when it comes to pain.......this was through the roof.

So out came the medical book. The symptoms (ie. I can't even touch the tooth

without it hurting and other symptoms) is indicative of an abscess tooth.

Oh great! Then it says see your dentist immediately....you could get blood

poisoning without antibiotics. Well as you can see it's past midnight now,

it's across town the all night pharmacy. I can't get there. Geez.....I'll go

to the neighbourhood one first thing tomorrow morning and I'll just spend

the night hoping my face hasn't fallen off or something by morning!

Debby

update

> Resent-From: laura@...

> Resent-To: bugwilder@...

> Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:20:52 -0600

>

>

> OK now I've caught up on the emails I'll tell you all about the week.

>

> Recall Tuesday night was Adam's sleep study. Well the weather people were

> forecasting a huge snowstorm that night (they were right, we got 20 cm).

> Adam was quite cooperative about falling asleep this time and was out by

> 9:30

>

> As you guys know I have the herniated disk and my back did not like the

cot.

> On top of that, when I called and asked about blankets, and they said they

> had them........I forgot to ask (didn't think I needed to!!!!!) what do

you

> call a blanket?? Ended up being a top sheet made of flannel. BIG DEAL.

> Thankfully I had brought this super warm blanket I have that folds up to

> look like a dish towel.

>

> However, I unexpectedly had to go to the dentist during the day on

Tuesday.

> I was in agony.....horrible pain. Found out I had 3 teeth with fractures

in

> them (probably the result of gnashing my teeth at the principal

LOL.......no

> seriously, probably grinding/clenching from the pain in my back ).

>

> About 1 a.m. during the sleep study the technician came into the room to

fix

> a wire that had come undone on Adam. I, of course, immediately jumped up

> (did so most of the night every time he stirred) and the tech. said " Adam

is

> doing well......but you on the other hand, I can't get an accurate sound

> recording of Adam's breathing because of YOUR snoring. " She went on to say

I

> definitely have sleep apnea as she could hear the loud snores followed by

> long periods of silence.

>

> Well add that to my list of things to check out (guess that's the downside

> to sleeping alone for 7 years.....no one to complain 'you snore'!!!! LOL)

>

> We were woken up at 5:30 a.m. By the time they got the wires etc. off and

we

> got dressed it was 6:30 a.m. The tech said " go downstairs, eat breakfast,

> then come back to the play room and the doc will come and give you the

> results around 8:30 "

>

> I had already turned on the weather channel and the roads were awful (even

> at that time). So I asked if anyone from the sleep study clinic would be

> around at 8:30....she said no. I asked if the doc *could* be delayed by

the

> storm, she didn't know.........so I asked who I could speak to if he WAS

> late to say I was leaving, she said " no one " . So I said " well just write

on

> my chart that we left now due to the storm and he can call me " .

>

> So I drove home in the snowstorm. What an adventure. Still in agony with

the

> teeth.

>

> Then I went to see the pain specialist appt. for my back. Yeh yeh, big

deal

> there. He says " well you *shouldn't* still be in this much pain this long

> into it " . Great another male trying to diminish my feelings!! UGH. So he

> decides it must be a structural problem I was born with and I should get

> orthodics bla bla bla. The follow up to that appt. is March 17th.

>

> On to the dentist who takes all the fillings out of 2 of the teeth (he

> decides to do the lower one " next time " ). I was lucky (if you call it

that)

> that I didn't need root cannel.

>

> Ok fine, go home totally drained. I got a call (finally) from my union

rep.

> As if I needed to go through the principal issues that night of all

nights.

> But we'd played phone tag for too long. She went nuts....make a long story

> short she confirmed I am being harassed, it's against all rules and said I

> needed to get all my documentation together and she would come with me to

> see the principal's boss to put a stop to this. She was angry!!!

>

> I was so exhausted.

>

> I still have no results on the sleep study. I will book MY SLEEP STUDY

soon

> as I can get in to see my GP.

> And I'm off to the dentist TOMORROW because I can't move my mouth. I can't

> eat or drink anything and live with an ice pack on my face (it's hard to

> type with it!!! LOL). It appears all 3 teeth are now infected. But I can't

> handle the screaming pain in my face without any relief. Tylenol 3's

> (prescription pain killers) don't even take the edge off.

>

> The good news is that at least I am now on March Break. I would love to

> crawl UNDER the bed until the 18th when we go back........but now between

> the kids and myself we have doctor appts. every day of the March Break.

>

> Never rains but it pours.......no no no .....that's not right.....it never

> snows but it blizzards!!!!! THERE!!!

>

> Thanks for listening

>

> Debby

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Deb,

Does it look anything like a little pimple up along the gumline or around the

tooth. That would be an abcess or having a bad taste in your mouth.

update

> Resent-From: laura@...

> Resent-To: bugwilder@...

> Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:20:52 -0600

>

>

> OK now I've caught up on the emails I'll tell you all about the week.

>

> Recall Tuesday night was Adam's sleep study. Well the weather people were

> forecasting a huge snowstorm that night (they were right, we got 20 cm).

> Adam was quite cooperative about falling asleep this time and was out by

> 9:30

>

> As you guys know I have the herniated disk and my back did not like the

cot.

> On top of that, when I called and asked about blankets, and they said they

> had them........I forgot to ask (didn't think I needed to!!!!!) what do

you

> call a blanket?? Ended up being a top sheet made of flannel. BIG DEAL.

> Thankfully I had brought this super warm blanket I have that folds up to

> look like a dish towel.

>

> However, I unexpectedly had to go to the dentist during the day on

Tuesday.

> I was in agony.....horrible pain. Found out I had 3 teeth with fractures

in

> them (probably the result of gnashing my teeth at the principal

LOL.......no

> seriously, probably grinding/clenching from the pain in my back ).

>

> About 1 a.m. during the sleep study the technician came into the room to

fix

> a wire that had come undone on Adam. I, of course, immediately jumped up

> (did so most of the night every time he stirred) and the tech. said " Adam

is

> doing well......but you on the other hand, I can't get an accurate sound

> recording of Adam's breathing because of YOUR snoring. " She went on to say

I

> definitely have sleep apnea as she could hear the loud snores followed by

> long periods of silence.

>

> Well add that to my list of things to check out (guess that's the downside

> to sleeping alone for 7 years.....no one to complain 'you snore'!!!! LOL)

>

> We were woken up at 5:30 a.m. By the time they got the wires etc. off and

we

> got dressed it was 6:30 a.m. The tech said " go downstairs, eat breakfast,

> then come back to the play room and the doc will come and give you the

> results around 8:30 "

>

> I had already turned on the weather channel and the roads were awful (even

> at that time). So I asked if anyone from the sleep study clinic would be

> around at 8:30....she said no. I asked if the doc *could* be delayed by

the

> storm, she didn't know.........so I asked who I could speak to if he WAS

> late to say I was leaving, she said " no one " . So I said " well just write

on

> my chart that we left now due to the storm and he can call me " .

>

> So I drove home in the snowstorm. What an adventure. Still in agony with

the

> teeth.

>

> Then I went to see the pain specialist appt. for my back. Yeh yeh, big

deal

> there. He says " well you *shouldn't* still be in this much pain this long

> into it " . Great another male trying to diminish my feelings!! UGH. So he

> decides it must be a structural problem I was born with and I should get

> orthodics bla bla bla. The follow up to that appt. is March 17th.

>

> On to the dentist who takes all the fillings out of 2 of the teeth (he

> decides to do the lower one " next time " ). I was lucky (if you call it

that)

> that I didn't need root cannel.

>

> Ok fine, go home totally drained. I got a call (finally) from my union

rep.

> As if I needed to go through the principal issues that night of all

nights.

> But we'd played phone tag for too long. She went nuts....make a long story

> short she confirmed I am being harassed, it's against all rules and said I

> needed to get all my documentation together and she would come with me to

> see the principal's boss to put a stop to this. She was angry!!!

>

> I was so exhausted.

>

> I still have no results on the sleep study. I will book MY SLEEP STUDY

soon

> as I can get in to see my GP.

> And I'm off to the dentist TOMORROW because I can't move my mouth. I can't

> eat or drink anything and live with an ice pack on my face (it's hard to

> type with it!!! LOL). It appears all 3 teeth are now infected. But I can't

> handle the screaming pain in my face without any relief. Tylenol 3's

> (prescription pain killers) don't even take the edge off.

>

> The good news is that at least I am now on March Break. I would love to

> crawl UNDER the bed until the 18th when we go back........but now between

> the kids and myself we have doctor appts. every day of the March Break.

>

> Never rains but it pours.......no no no .....that's not right.....it never

> snows but it blizzards!!!!! THERE!!!

>

> Thanks for listening

>

> Debby

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Deb,

Does it look anything like a little pimple up along the gumline or around the

tooth. That would be an abcess or having a bad taste in your mouth.

update

> Resent-From: laura@...

> Resent-To: bugwilder@...

> Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:20:52 -0600

>

>

> OK now I've caught up on the emails I'll tell you all about the week.

>

> Recall Tuesday night was Adam's sleep study. Well the weather people were

> forecasting a huge snowstorm that night (they were right, we got 20 cm).

> Adam was quite cooperative about falling asleep this time and was out by

> 9:30

>

> As you guys know I have the herniated disk and my back did not like the

cot.

> On top of that, when I called and asked about blankets, and they said they

> had them........I forgot to ask (didn't think I needed to!!!!!) what do

you

> call a blanket?? Ended up being a top sheet made of flannel. BIG DEAL.

> Thankfully I had brought this super warm blanket I have that folds up to

> look like a dish towel.

>

> However, I unexpectedly had to go to the dentist during the day on

Tuesday.

> I was in agony.....horrible pain. Found out I had 3 teeth with fractures

in

> them (probably the result of gnashing my teeth at the principal

LOL.......no

> seriously, probably grinding/clenching from the pain in my back ).

>

> About 1 a.m. during the sleep study the technician came into the room to

fix

> a wire that had come undone on Adam. I, of course, immediately jumped up

> (did so most of the night every time he stirred) and the tech. said " Adam

is

> doing well......but you on the other hand, I can't get an accurate sound

> recording of Adam's breathing because of YOUR snoring. " She went on to say

I

> definitely have sleep apnea as she could hear the loud snores followed by

> long periods of silence.

>

> Well add that to my list of things to check out (guess that's the downside

> to sleeping alone for 7 years.....no one to complain 'you snore'!!!! LOL)

>

> We were woken up at 5:30 a.m. By the time they got the wires etc. off and

we

> got dressed it was 6:30 a.m. The tech said " go downstairs, eat breakfast,

> then come back to the play room and the doc will come and give you the

> results around 8:30 "

>

> I had already turned on the weather channel and the roads were awful (even

> at that time). So I asked if anyone from the sleep study clinic would be

> around at 8:30....she said no. I asked if the doc *could* be delayed by

the

> storm, she didn't know.........so I asked who I could speak to if he WAS

> late to say I was leaving, she said " no one " . So I said " well just write

on

> my chart that we left now due to the storm and he can call me " .

>

> So I drove home in the snowstorm. What an adventure. Still in agony with

the

> teeth.

>

> Then I went to see the pain specialist appt. for my back. Yeh yeh, big

deal

> there. He says " well you *shouldn't* still be in this much pain this long

> into it " . Great another male trying to diminish my feelings!! UGH. So he

> decides it must be a structural problem I was born with and I should get

> orthodics bla bla bla. The follow up to that appt. is March 17th.

>

> On to the dentist who takes all the fillings out of 2 of the teeth (he

> decides to do the lower one " next time " ). I was lucky (if you call it

that)

> that I didn't need root cannel.

>

> Ok fine, go home totally drained. I got a call (finally) from my union

rep.

> As if I needed to go through the principal issues that night of all

nights.

> But we'd played phone tag for too long. She went nuts....make a long story

> short she confirmed I am being harassed, it's against all rules and said I

> needed to get all my documentation together and she would come with me to

> see the principal's boss to put a stop to this. She was angry!!!

>

> I was so exhausted.

>

> I still have no results on the sleep study. I will book MY SLEEP STUDY

soon

> as I can get in to see my GP.

> And I'm off to the dentist TOMORROW because I can't move my mouth. I can't

> eat or drink anything and live with an ice pack on my face (it's hard to

> type with it!!! LOL). It appears all 3 teeth are now infected. But I can't

> handle the screaming pain in my face without any relief. Tylenol 3's

> (prescription pain killers) don't even take the edge off.

>

> The good news is that at least I am now on March Break. I would love to

> crawl UNDER the bed until the 18th when we go back........but now between

> the kids and myself we have doctor appts. every day of the March Break.

>

> Never rains but it pours.......no no no .....that's not right.....it never

> snows but it blizzards!!!!! THERE!!!

>

> Thanks for listening

>

> Debby

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Weird.......I was going to mention to the dentist about the weird taste, but

I thought it was just me. Anyway, he had me come in today and before I knew

what was happening, I was having a root cannel done. He said I had no pulp

left (tooth was dead) and one root is infected.

The pain continues..........I didn't check for a white spot.....I couldn't

open my mouth to see in anyhow!

thanks for the help

Debby

update

> > Resent-From: laura@...

> > Resent-To: bugwilder@...

> > Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:20:52 -0600

> >

> >

> > OK now I've caught up on the emails I'll tell you all about the week.

> >

> > Recall Tuesday night was Adam's sleep study. Well the weather people

were

> > forecasting a huge snowstorm that night (they were right, we got 20

cm).

> > Adam was quite cooperative about falling asleep this time and was out

by

> > 9:30

> >

> > As you guys know I have the herniated disk and my back did not like

the

> cot.

> > On top of that, when I called and asked about blankets, and they said

they

> > had them........I forgot to ask (didn't think I needed to!!!!!) what

do

> you

> > call a blanket?? Ended up being a top sheet made of flannel. BIG DEAL.

> > Thankfully I had brought this super warm blanket I have that folds up

to

> > look like a dish towel.

> >

> > However, I unexpectedly had to go to the dentist during the day on

> Tuesday.

> > I was in agony.....horrible pain. Found out I had 3 teeth with

fractures

> in

> > them (probably the result of gnashing my teeth at the principal

> LOL.......no

> > seriously, probably grinding/clenching from the pain in my back ).

> >

> > About 1 a.m. during the sleep study the technician came into the room

to

> fix

> > a wire that had come undone on Adam. I, of course, immediately jumped

up

> > (did so most of the night every time he stirred) and the tech. said

" Adam

> is

> > doing well......but you on the other hand, I can't get an accurate

sound

> > recording of Adam's breathing because of YOUR snoring. " She went on to

say

> I

> > definitely have sleep apnea as she could hear the loud snores followed

by

> > long periods of silence.

> >

> > Well add that to my list of things to check out (guess that's the

downside

> > to sleeping alone for 7 years.....no one to complain 'you snore'!!!!

LOL)

> >

> > We were woken up at 5:30 a.m. By the time they got the wires etc. off

and

> we

> > got dressed it was 6:30 a.m. The tech said " go downstairs, eat

breakfast,

> > then come back to the play room and the doc will come and give you the

> > results around 8:30 "

> >

> > I had already turned on the weather channel and the roads were awful

(even

> > at that time). So I asked if anyone from the sleep study clinic would

be

> > around at 8:30....she said no. I asked if the doc *could* be delayed

by

> the

> > storm, she didn't know.........so I asked who I could speak to if he

WAS

> > late to say I was leaving, she said " no one " . So I said " well just

write

> on

> > my chart that we left now due to the storm and he can call me " .

> >

> > So I drove home in the snowstorm. What an adventure. Still in agony

with

> the

> > teeth.

> >

> > Then I went to see the pain specialist appt. for my back. Yeh yeh, big

> deal

> > there. He says " well you *shouldn't* still be in this much pain this

long

> > into it " . Great another male trying to diminish my feelings!! UGH. So

he

> > decides it must be a structural problem I was born with and I should

get

> > orthodics bla bla bla. The follow up to that appt. is March 17th.

> >

> > On to the dentist who takes all the fillings out of 2 of the teeth (he

> > decides to do the lower one " next time " ). I was lucky (if you call it

> that)

> > that I didn't need root cannel.

> >

> > Ok fine, go home totally drained. I got a call (finally) from my union

> rep.

> > As if I needed to go through the principal issues that night of all

> nights.

> > But we'd played phone tag for too long. She went nuts....make a long

story

> > short she confirmed I am being harassed, it's against all rules and

said I

> > needed to get all my documentation together and she would come with me

to

> > see the principal's boss to put a stop to this. She was angry!!!

> >

> > I was so exhausted.

> >

> > I still have no results on the sleep study. I will book MY SLEEP STUDY

> soon

> > as I can get in to see my GP.

> > And I'm off to the dentist TOMORROW because I can't move my mouth. I

can't

> > eat or drink anything and live with an ice pack on my face (it's hard

to

> > type with it!!! LOL). It appears all 3 teeth are now infected. But I

can't

> > handle the screaming pain in my face without any relief. Tylenol 3's

> > (prescription pain killers) don't even take the edge off.

> >

> > The good news is that at least I am now on March Break. I would love

to

> > crawl UNDER the bed until the 18th when we go back........but now

between

> > the kids and myself we have doctor appts. every day of the March

Break.

> >

> > Never rains but it pours.......no no no .....that's not right.....it

never

> > snows but it blizzards!!!!! THERE!!!

> >

> > Thanks for listening

> >

> > Debby

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Glad to be of help. Should be feeling better soon. Did the D.D.S. put you on

any antibidics. Moist heat and cold packs twenty minutes at time help also.

Maloy

update

> > Resent-From: laura@...

> > Resent-To: bugwilder@...

> > Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:20:52 -0600

> >

> >

> > OK now I've caught up on the emails I'll tell you all about the week.

> >

> > Recall Tuesday night was Adam's sleep study. Well the weather people

were

> > forecasting a huge snowstorm that night (they were right, we got 20

cm).

> > Adam was quite cooperative about falling asleep this time and was out

by

> > 9:30

> >

> > As you guys know I have the herniated disk and my back did not like

the

> cot.

> > On top of that, when I called and asked about blankets, and they said

they

> > had them........I forgot to ask (didn't think I needed to!!!!!) what

do

> you

> > call a blanket?? Ended up being a top sheet made of flannel. BIG DEAL.

> > Thankfully I had brought this super warm blanket I have that folds up

to

> > look like a dish towel.

> >

> > However, I unexpectedly had to go to the dentist during the day on

> Tuesday.

> > I was in agony.....horrible pain. Found out I had 3 teeth with

fractures

> in

> > them (probably the result of gnashing my teeth at the principal

> LOL.......no

> > seriously, probably grinding/clenching from the pain in my back ).

> >

> > About 1 a.m. during the sleep study the technician came into the room

to

> fix

> > a wire that had come undone on Adam. I, of course, immediately jumped

up

> > (did so most of the night every time he stirred) and the tech. said

" Adam

> is

> > doing well......but you on the other hand, I can't get an accurate

sound

> > recording of Adam's breathing because of YOUR snoring. " She went on to

say

> I

> > definitely have sleep apnea as she could hear the loud snores followed

by

> > long periods of silence.

> >

> > Well add that to my list of things to check out (guess that's the

downside

> > to sleeping alone for 7 years.....no one to complain 'you snore'!!!!

LOL)

> >

> > We were woken up at 5:30 a.m. By the time they got the wires etc. off

and

> we

> > got dressed it was 6:30 a.m. The tech said " go downstairs, eat

breakfast,

> > then come back to the play room and the doc will come and give you the

> > results around 8:30 "

> >

> > I had already turned on the weather channel and the roads were awful

(even

> > at that time). So I asked if anyone from the sleep study clinic would

be

> > around at 8:30....she said no. I asked if the doc *could* be delayed

by

> the

> > storm, she didn't know.........so I asked who I could speak to if he

WAS

> > late to say I was leaving, she said " no one " . So I said " well just

write

> on

> > my chart that we left now due to the storm and he can call me " .

> >

> > So I drove home in the snowstorm. What an adventure. Still in agony

with

> the

> > teeth.

> >

> > Then I went to see the pain specialist appt. for my back. Yeh yeh, big

> deal

> > there. He says " well you *shouldn't* still be in this much pain this

long

> > into it " . Great another male trying to diminish my feelings!! UGH. So

he

> > decides it must be a structural problem I was born with and I should

get

> > orthodics bla bla bla. The follow up to that appt. is March 17th.

> >

> > On to the dentist who takes all the fillings out of 2 of the teeth (he

> > decides to do the lower one " next time " ). I was lucky (if you call it

> that)

> > that I didn't need root cannel.

> >

> > Ok fine, go home totally drained. I got a call (finally) from my union

> rep.

> > As if I needed to go through the principal issues that night of all

> nights.

> > But we'd played phone tag for too long. She went nuts....make a long

story

> > short she confirmed I am being harassed, it's against all rules and

said I

> > needed to get all my documentation together and she would come with me

to

> > see the principal's boss to put a stop to this. She was angry!!!

> >

> > I was so exhausted.

> >

> > I still have no results on the sleep study. I will book MY SLEEP STUDY

> soon

> > as I can get in to see my GP.

> > And I'm off to the dentist TOMORROW because I can't move my mouth. I

can't

> > eat or drink anything and live with an ice pack on my face (it's hard

to

> > type with it!!! LOL). It appears all 3 teeth are now infected. But I

can't

> > handle the screaming pain in my face without any relief. Tylenol 3's

> > (prescription pain killers) don't even take the edge off.

> >

> > The good news is that at least I am now on March Break. I would love

to

> > crawl UNDER the bed until the 18th when we go back........but now

between

> > the kids and myself we have doctor appts. every day of the March

Break.

> >

> > Never rains but it pours.......no no no .....that's not right.....it

never

> > snows but it blizzards!!!!! THERE!!!

> >

> > Thanks for listening

> >

> > Debby

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Glad to be of help. Should be feeling better soon. Did the D.D.S. put you on

any antibidics. Moist heat and cold packs twenty minutes at time help also.

Maloy

update

> > Resent-From: laura@...

> > Resent-To: bugwilder@...

> > Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:20:52 -0600

> >

> >

> > OK now I've caught up on the emails I'll tell you all about the week.

> >

> > Recall Tuesday night was Adam's sleep study. Well the weather people

were

> > forecasting a huge snowstorm that night (they were right, we got 20

cm).

> > Adam was quite cooperative about falling asleep this time and was out

by

> > 9:30

> >

> > As you guys know I have the herniated disk and my back did not like

the

> cot.

> > On top of that, when I called and asked about blankets, and they said

they

> > had them........I forgot to ask (didn't think I needed to!!!!!) what

do

> you

> > call a blanket?? Ended up being a top sheet made of flannel. BIG DEAL.

> > Thankfully I had brought this super warm blanket I have that folds up

to

> > look like a dish towel.

> >

> > However, I unexpectedly had to go to the dentist during the day on

> Tuesday.

> > I was in agony.....horrible pain. Found out I had 3 teeth with

fractures

> in

> > them (probably the result of gnashing my teeth at the principal

> LOL.......no

> > seriously, probably grinding/clenching from the pain in my back ).

> >

> > About 1 a.m. during the sleep study the technician came into the room

to

> fix

> > a wire that had come undone on Adam. I, of course, immediately jumped

up

> > (did so most of the night every time he stirred) and the tech. said

" Adam

> is

> > doing well......but you on the other hand, I can't get an accurate

sound

> > recording of Adam's breathing because of YOUR snoring. " She went on to

say

> I

> > definitely have sleep apnea as she could hear the loud snores followed

by

> > long periods of silence.

> >

> > Well add that to my list of things to check out (guess that's the

downside

> > to sleeping alone for 7 years.....no one to complain 'you snore'!!!!

LOL)

> >

> > We were woken up at 5:30 a.m. By the time they got the wires etc. off

and

> we

> > got dressed it was 6:30 a.m. The tech said " go downstairs, eat

breakfast,

> > then come back to the play room and the doc will come and give you the

> > results around 8:30 "

> >

> > I had already turned on the weather channel and the roads were awful

(even

> > at that time). So I asked if anyone from the sleep study clinic would

be

> > around at 8:30....she said no. I asked if the doc *could* be delayed

by

> the

> > storm, she didn't know.........so I asked who I could speak to if he

WAS

> > late to say I was leaving, she said " no one " . So I said " well just

write

> on

> > my chart that we left now due to the storm and he can call me " .

> >

> > So I drove home in the snowstorm. What an adventure. Still in agony

with

> the

> > teeth.

> >

> > Then I went to see the pain specialist appt. for my back. Yeh yeh, big

> deal

> > there. He says " well you *shouldn't* still be in this much pain this

long

> > into it " . Great another male trying to diminish my feelings!! UGH. So

he

> > decides it must be a structural problem I was born with and I should

get

> > orthodics bla bla bla. The follow up to that appt. is March 17th.

> >

> > On to the dentist who takes all the fillings out of 2 of the teeth (he

> > decides to do the lower one " next time " ). I was lucky (if you call it

> that)

> > that I didn't need root cannel.

> >

> > Ok fine, go home totally drained. I got a call (finally) from my union

> rep.

> > As if I needed to go through the principal issues that night of all

> nights.

> > But we'd played phone tag for too long. She went nuts....make a long

story

> > short she confirmed I am being harassed, it's against all rules and

said I

> > needed to get all my documentation together and she would come with me

to

> > see the principal's boss to put a stop to this. She was angry!!!

> >

> > I was so exhausted.

> >

> > I still have no results on the sleep study. I will book MY SLEEP STUDY

> soon

> > as I can get in to see my GP.

> > And I'm off to the dentist TOMORROW because I can't move my mouth. I

can't

> > eat or drink anything and live with an ice pack on my face (it's hard

to

> > type with it!!! LOL). It appears all 3 teeth are now infected. But I

can't

> > handle the screaming pain in my face without any relief. Tylenol 3's

> > (prescription pain killers) don't even take the edge off.

> >

> > The good news is that at least I am now on March Break. I would love

to

> > crawl UNDER the bed until the 18th when we go back........but now

between

> > the kids and myself we have doctor appts. every day of the March

Break.

> >

> > Never rains but it pours.......no no no .....that's not right.....it

never

> > snows but it blizzards!!!!! THERE!!!

> >

> > Thanks for listening

> >

> > Debby

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Holly -

Glad you're doing better! Thanks for sharing what happened, I'm sure this

will help other people as well!

Update

> Just wanted to let everyone know, in case this situation happens to

you....

>

> Last week I had turned up hyper again after going off my MMI for 4 or 5

days

> (thought I was in remission). Many of you responded and suggested I go

back

> to taking 2.5 mg. every day again to see if that would get me back in

check.

> Well, it did, and I thank you all for your support and suggestions. I

> started back on 2.5 last Tuesday, and by Friday my heart rate was back

down

> in the low 60s. Yeah!

>

> I've been running around doing this and that all morning and had a couple

of

> cups of coffee and just checked my heart rate. It's somewhere between 60

> and 66 (66 is about normal for me--72 if I'm active and have caffeine in

my

> system), and I'm a little puffy this morning, so I'm going back to my pre

> pre-relapse dosage of 2.5 every other day.

>

> Feeling pretty good...

>

> Holly

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Thea!!!

Tuna (waving wildy)

=====

mom to:

, 8, ASD

, 4, NT

Normal is just a setting on the washing machine.

- Whoopi Goldberg

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