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Hi Cammie, im fine thanks how are you? i think of you all too just

dont seem to get chance to visit the site these days. college is

great, just totally hectic 24/7, which i regret not being able to

visit the site as much. i know i keep meaning to post some up dated

photos but i never seem to have the chance. i will do within the

next few weeks or so, promise! its my birthday in 2weeks so iwill

get ome recent photos then. i the site one photos part still not

working? im trying to access my photos for another weird project at

college, studying identity a personal journey, so i thought i would

do pre-post op, freak my new freinds out a little, lol.

jibes? are they like nasties? medications? at the mo i have

retainers still tho i have problems with the top one, the best way i

can describe it is like you know those withces glow in the dark

teeth you can get at halloween? thats what my top retainers like

and it keeps snapping, accidently,lol. i have to go and see my

ortho about it, oops. i dont mind tho will be nice to catch up with

him see if my job offer still stands, he told me to come bacj after

my degree and he would give me a job, not too shabby!

still having problems with my posture, well it was suggested that by

my gp, i sometimes get these unbearable sharp, almost stabbing pains

all over my back, feels like its in my bones, and sometimes its

burning pains. we arent sure whether its arthiritus as both my

parents have it, and its been mentioned before about my knees,

great, im the off spring who inherits all the bad, my older bro n

little sister get the height¬! lol...

appart from that i am keeping well. thanks for asking

i hope ur keeping well. i admire you for keeping track with this

busy site, i dont know how you do it!

i maybe making a visit to the states within the next year or so if

things go well! COOL!

how far post op are you now? i cant believe its nearly two years?

where does time go? its mad!

take care

kind regards

kat_uk

xx

> >

> > Hi Kate, my name is Katy from the uk, known to the boards as

> Kat_uk.

> > im not sure about the cost of surgery, i think that it could be

> free

> > or of a certain percentage of the cost if for a medical

> > reason/referral. i had my surgery done at 17, upper and lower

jaw

> > surgery. i know that the operation alone was meant to be

£30,000.

> > however one thing about the nhs is the waiting list. i have been

> > working towards surgery since the age of 12, understandably

there

> > was a time period to allow growth, but i would say i was on the

> > waiting list for at least 2years, and was wearing braces, still

am

> > after 7 years. 2years pot op this august. hope this helps, if

you

> > want to ask questions about the surgery and procedures you've

come

> > to the right place. good luck in your decsion making,

> > kind regards

> > Kat_UK

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Hi! and hello!

You sound as though you are just doing sooooo well, and I cannot tell

you how happy I am for you. You have been incredibly cheerful and up

about all this stuff, and I admire you more than I can tell you.

Site one is just screwed, best I can tell, as far as photos go. Does

your surgeon/ortho not have any photos, nor molds you could get

pictures of? Mine both took x-rays, and the ortho did quite a few

molds and photos.

I'll bet they'd help you. Don't I remember that they offered you a

job consulting with patients?

College is a good time to have a hectic life. Congratulations, and

enjoy every minute!

Jibes are nasty comments from other folks. Like, " Hey, bony! " to a

skinny person. Or " hey, Fattie! " to an overweight one. Or, " Where'd

you get all those zits? " to someone who has acne. Just nasty stuff,

that any sane and caring person should have more sense than to do.

You might investigate cranio-sacral massage, since you are having

other skeletal troubles. I haven't done it, but Fiddly is

bright, able, energetic and found it helpful. I do know that skeletal

imbalances can make troubles. As indeed can nutritional ones. But

you're way too young to be having those difficulties, and I hope you

can find some resolution for them.

I had surgery at the end of June 2002. Am fine now. No complaints,

except that the retainers chew the heck out of my tongue, which I

also expect to take up with my ortho when I see him again next month.

i can live with it, but I think he can help.

So try to schedule lower Alabama and New Orleans in your travel

plans, if you can! I'd love to meet you and buy you a bowl of gumbo --

not that such is enough to pay for a trip down south! But if you can

come in any other season than the heat of summer, I think you might

like it! e-mail me, if you think that might work.

Best,

Cammie

> Hi Cammie, im fine thanks how are you? i think of you all too just

> dont seem to get chance to visit the site these days. college is

> great, just totally hectic 24/7, which i regret not being able to

> visit the site as much. i know i keep meaning to post some up

dated

> photos but i never seem to have the chance. i will do within the

> next few weeks or so, promise! its my birthday in 2weeks so iwill

> get ome recent photos then. i the site one photos part still not

> working? im trying to access my photos for another weird project at

> college, studying identity a personal journey, so i thought i would

> do pre-post op, freak my new freinds out a little, lol.

>

> jibes? are they like nasties? medications? at the mo i have

> retainers still tho i have problems with the top one, the best way

i

> can describe it is like you know those withces glow in the dark

> teeth you can get at halloween? thats what my top retainers like

> and it keeps snapping, accidently,lol. i have to go and see my

> ortho about it, oops. i dont mind tho will be nice to catch up with

> him see if my job offer still stands, he told me to come bacj after

> my degree and he would give me a job, not too shabby!

> still having problems with my posture, well it was suggested that

by

> my gp, i sometimes get these unbearable sharp, almost stabbing

pains

> all over my back, feels like its in my bones, and sometimes its

> burning pains. we arent sure whether its arthiritus as both my

> parents have it, and its been mentioned before about my knees,

> great, im the off spring who inherits all the bad, my older bro n

> little sister get the height¬! lol...

>

> appart from that i am keeping well. thanks for asking

> i hope ur keeping well. i admire you for keeping track with this

> busy site, i dont know how you do it!

>

> i maybe making a visit to the states within the next year or so if

> things go well! COOL!

> how far post op are you now? i cant believe its nearly two years?

> where does time go? its mad!

>

> take care

>

> kind regards

>

> kat_uk

>

> xx

>

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Hi Cammie!! Glad to hear that you are doing well too, retainers

arent they just great? i had to put an old one in until i go to see

my ortho in may and i got blood blisteres from them, great! nothing

i guess we both arent used to by now though! good luck for the

ortho appointment i will be thinking of you. i gotta say that i

admire you and others like susan F for devoting so much of your time

to this site, i dont know how you keep up, u r true saints! and in

the last week before my op when i joined this site, i cant begin to

tahnkouy for the support you gave me! do you ever feel like you

havent had this op done? sometimes i do. even when i look in the

mirror i dont recognise the person looking back at me, i still feel

i look like i did before. i think its because it has gone so quickly

and so well-less painfully than i thought it would be that idont

really remember it as an awful experience. do you feel that or am i

just weird? im weird anyway so there you go!

Gumbo? lol. that made me giggle. my step dad said ooh proper food,

he said he would definatley take up the offer, i will too for that

factt. however since the op i dont really have a strong stomach for

liquid foods. i cant seem to get the image/though and smell of burnt

chicken bones out of my head. strange i know, but thats what the

smell and taste of my medication reminded me of. i shudder at the

thought, one word 'GROSS'. we have been hoping to go to the states

for a few years now so hopefully we as a family, or myself with uni

made do sometime in the future. my step dad went travelling the

states when he was 16, and he meet some people who he has really

gotten to know, infact he calls them his 'american mom and dad'.

they are in seattle, but i know that he's interested in the south.

my younger sister is hoping to come out there next summer, 2005 so i

may join her if i dont cramp her style, lol... thankyou for the

offer, i would love to meet you too hopefully we will. we should

have a big group renunion that would be brilliant!

im not sure about the jibes, as i dont see those people anymore,

which i am great ful of. they left school and thats the last i have

seen of them. though the low lifes that they were i am sure they

would continue to name call, i dont care anymore though. im not

ashamed to have had surgery and am proud to say that i have achieved

a new self confidence, and become a stronger person out of it, im so

great fuk to have had it or i wouldnt be where i am today and would

more likely than not be hanging around with the likes of those

people. as for college i LOVE it and have meet some really great-

true good freinds who i love to bits! whats more i get to graduate

in the York Minster a treat for sore eyes. if you ever get chance

to come over to the UK i will return your invotation and show you

some sights. i have noticed alot of americans visit york for its

history. not sure of any english food i could treat you to, amybe

some yorkshire puddings and Roast Beef!

its a shame about site one, is it impossible to access photos now? i

never saved any photos, from my digi cam so i am a little down about

that. i found one the other day tho. yes my ortho offered me a job

as his assisting consultant, he told me to do my degree first though

and then go and see him. im particularly interested in photography,

and thought about starting up a support group withinh the hospital,

designing and producing news papers, adn when the patinets come in

treat them to a photo session. i have alwyas wnated to goto a

proffessional shoot, but never had the gutts because of the way i

looked, though they other day i did and i throughly enjoyed it. i

thought something like that would be nice for patients, pre and post

op, to encourage them. if i get the photos back i will post some,

though as we are led to believe they are very expensive, ranging

from £75 to £1025 so may have to have one as a birthday treat, haha.

my ortho does have some photos from when i first started going at

12. he took some each year, couldnt believe it was me when i saw

them. i was thinking of writing to him to ask whether it was

possible that i could have a copy of them as i am studinyg a

persnonal journey at uni and for this site. do you think he would

allow it?

craino-sacral? my mum was really worried about my back and sent me

to see the doctor at uni, it was friday the 13th-not that im

suspicious but i got sent straight to the hospital for xrays, though

they are clear. we are unsure if it is arthuritus or could have been

caused by a bump i had whilst doing gymnastics a few eyars back.

its weird as at the bottom of the spine you know u have 2 dimples,

well between there i get fluid on the base of my soine and it swells

up pretty bad, which is where the pain tends to orientate from, so

im not really sure. i will look up what you said though, thanks for

the well wishes on that.

no complaints this end either, though i get a bit worried about

these dissolveable screws, i have one right under my eye, it doesnt

bother me but sometimes i swear its getting closer to it, id rather

avoid having it removed though as they said because of the position

they would have to go through the skin instead of under it.

hope its nice a warm for you over there, its getting warmer over

here, average about 12 degrees, whhheyyyyy lol. clocks go forward to

night though so we are heading for summer at last!

anyway i should go now i have nagged you to death, its been nice

catching up with you, hope all is well, and i promise i will try to

get some photos up asap.

kind regards

kat_uk

xx

> > Hi Cammie, im fine thanks how are you? i think of you all too

just

> > dont seem to get chance to visit the site these days. college is

> > great, just totally hectic 24/7, which i regret not being able

to

> > visit the site as much. i know i keep meaning to post some up

> dated

> > photos but i never seem to have the chance. i will do within the

> > next few weeks or so, promise! its my birthday in 2weeks so

iwill

> > get ome recent photos then. i the site one photos part still not

> > working? im trying to access my photos for another weird project

at

> > college, studying identity a personal journey, so i thought i

would

> > do pre-post op, freak my new freinds out a little, lol.

> >

> > jibes? are they like nasties? medications? at the mo i have

> > retainers still tho i have problems with the top one, the best

way

> i

> > can describe it is like you know those withces glow in the dark

> > teeth you can get at halloween? thats what my top retainers

like

> > and it keeps snapping, accidently,lol. i have to go and see my

> > ortho about it, oops. i dont mind tho will be nice to catch up

with

> > him see if my job offer still stands, he told me to come bacj

after

> > my degree and he would give me a job, not too shabby!

> > still having problems with my posture, well it was suggested

that

> by

> > my gp, i sometimes get these unbearable sharp, almost stabbing

> pains

> > all over my back, feels like its in my bones, and sometimes its

> > burning pains. we arent sure whether its arthiritus as both my

> > parents have it, and its been mentioned before about my knees,

> > great, im the off spring who inherits all the bad, my older bro

n

> > little sister get the height¬! lol...

> >

> > appart from that i am keeping well. thanks for asking

> > i hope ur keeping well. i admire you for keeping track with

this

> > busy site, i dont know how you do it!

> >

> > i maybe making a visit to the states within the next year or so

if

> > things go well! COOL!

> > how far post op are you now? i cant believe its nearly two

years?

> > where does time go? its mad!

> >

> > take care

> >

> > kind regards

> >

> > kat_uk

> >

> > xx

> >

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