Re: One year anniversary, checking in

[Guest guest]

Hi Cindy,

I've just joined the board a couple of months ago, and I was just

curious about your tmj's. Did you have problems with your joints

before the surgery already? Did it get better or worse because of

the surgery? and exactly what kind of surgeries did you have (did

your lower jaw have to be move forward, your upper segmented lefort?)

Sorry about all the questions, just trying to find out more about

tmj's and the effect of surgeries on them. My one joint is a little

weaker than the other and I'm really concerned that a surgery might

make it worse. I'm going to get a SARPE and a lower advancement (at

least that's the plan up until now)

Nathalie

> Hi all you " old " timers! I see Irish, Cammie and Cheryl are still

on

> board. Report: The bite is still dead on. The surgeon and the

> orthodontist are pleased. My tmj's are a WHOLE other story. Still

> wearing a splint 24/7 and go to Gainesville once a month for

> adjustments. Most day are painfree as long as I behave. (no wide

> opening or heavy chewing)Christmas time was difficult. TOO many

> goodies around!! I've put on alot of weight in the last year. I am

> not sure if it's the medication, diet, lack of exercise or

possibly

> all the above. I still get the occasional burning sensation in my

> chin. Which is very strange since I only ever had one tiny spot

under

> my chin that was numb. My smile has been altered, but no one seems

to

> notice but me. Are there any other January 2003 people here? How

is

> everyone doing?

>

> Funny story....I went for my annual dental checkup. The new

assistant

> was going through my chart and came upon some x-rays. She blurts

> out, " Oh, my goodness, you've broken your jaw TWICE! " I started

> chuckling and had to explain that it was done surgically. She had

> tons of questions. Another assistant and the dentist came in and

we

> just about had a party!!

>

> How everyone is well. Take Care. ~Cindy~

[Guest guest]

Hi Cindy,

I've just joined the board a couple of months ago, and I was just

curious about your tmj's. Did you have problems with your joints

before the surgery already? Did it get better or worse because of

the surgery? and exactly what kind of surgeries did you have (did

your lower jaw have to be move forward, your upper segmented lefort?)

Sorry about all the questions, just trying to find out more about

tmj's and the effect of surgeries on them. My one joint is a little

weaker than the other and I'm really concerned that a surgery might

make it worse. I'm going to get a SARPE and a lower advancement (at

least that's the plan up until now)

Nathalie

> Hi all you " old " timers! I see Irish, Cammie and Cheryl are still

on

> board. Report: The bite is still dead on. The surgeon and the

> orthodontist are pleased. My tmj's are a WHOLE other story. Still

> wearing a splint 24/7 and go to Gainesville once a month for

> adjustments. Most day are painfree as long as I behave. (no wide

> opening or heavy chewing)Christmas time was difficult. TOO many

> goodies around!! I've put on alot of weight in the last year. I am

> not sure if it's the medication, diet, lack of exercise or

possibly

> all the above. I still get the occasional burning sensation in my

> chin. Which is very strange since I only ever had one tiny spot

under

> my chin that was numb. My smile has been altered, but no one seems

to

> notice but me. Are there any other January 2003 people here? How

is

> everyone doing?

>

> Funny story....I went for my annual dental checkup. The new

assistant

> was going through my chart and came upon some x-rays. She blurts

> out, " Oh, my goodness, you've broken your jaw TWICE! " I started

> chuckling and had to explain that it was done surgically. She had

> tons of questions. Another assistant and the dentist came in and

we

> just about had a party!!

>

> How everyone is well. Take Care. ~Cindy~

[Guest guest]

Hi Cindy,

I've just joined the board a couple of months ago, and I was just

curious about your tmj's. Did you have problems with your joints

before the surgery already? Did it get better or worse because of

the surgery? and exactly what kind of surgeries did you have (did

your lower jaw have to be move forward, your upper segmented lefort?)

Sorry about all the questions, just trying to find out more about

tmj's and the effect of surgeries on them. My one joint is a little

weaker than the other and I'm really concerned that a surgery might

make it worse. I'm going to get a SARPE and a lower advancement (at

least that's the plan up until now)

Nathalie

> Hi all you " old " timers! I see Irish, Cammie and Cheryl are still

on

> board. Report: The bite is still dead on. The surgeon and the

> orthodontist are pleased. My tmj's are a WHOLE other story. Still

> wearing a splint 24/7 and go to Gainesville once a month for

> adjustments. Most day are painfree as long as I behave. (no wide

> opening or heavy chewing)Christmas time was difficult. TOO many

> goodies around!! I've put on alot of weight in the last year. I am

> not sure if it's the medication, diet, lack of exercise or

possibly

> all the above. I still get the occasional burning sensation in my

> chin. Which is very strange since I only ever had one tiny spot

under

> my chin that was numb. My smile has been altered, but no one seems

to

> notice but me. Are there any other January 2003 people here? How

is

> everyone doing?

>

> Funny story....I went for my annual dental checkup. The new

assistant

> was going through my chart and came upon some x-rays. She blurts

> out, " Oh, my goodness, you've broken your jaw TWICE! " I started

> chuckling and had to explain that it was done surgically. She had

> tons of questions. Another assistant and the dentist came in and

we

> just about had a party!!

>

> How everyone is well. Take Care. ~Cindy~

[Guest guest]

Hi Cindy. I've been wondering how things were going. What is your

doctor's plan for treating your TMJ or do you know? How long will

they be trying the splint treatment? I'm glad that at least it is

helping your pain.

I had my surgery 5 weeks ago, and still kind of recovering, but

doing ok.

> Hi all you " old " timers! I see Irish, Cammie and Cheryl are still

on

> board. Report: The bite is still dead on. The surgeon and the

> orthodontist are pleased. My tmj's are a WHOLE other story. Still

> wearing a splint 24/7 and go to Gainesville once a month for

> adjustments. Most day are painfree as long as I behave. (no wide

> opening or heavy chewing)Christmas time was difficult. TOO many

> goodies around!! I've put on alot of weight in the last year. I am

> not sure if it's the medication, diet, lack of exercise or

possibly

> all the above. I still get the occasional burning sensation in my

> chin. Which is very strange since I only ever had one tiny spot

under

> my chin that was numb. My smile has been altered, but no one seems

to

> notice but me. Are there any other January 2003 people here? How

is

> everyone doing?

>

> Funny story....I went for my annual dental checkup. The new

assistant

> was going through my chart and came upon some x-rays. She blurts

> out, " Oh, my goodness, you've broken your jaw TWICE! " I started

> chuckling and had to explain that it was done surgically. She had

> tons of questions. Another assistant and the dentist came in and

we

> just about had a party!!

>

> How everyone is well. Take Care. ~Cindy~

[Guest guest]

Hi Cindy. I've been wondering how things were going. What is your

doctor's plan for treating your TMJ or do you know? How long will

they be trying the splint treatment? I'm glad that at least it is

helping your pain.

I had my surgery 5 weeks ago, and still kind of recovering, but

doing ok.

> Hi all you " old " timers! I see Irish, Cammie and Cheryl are still

on

> board. Report: The bite is still dead on. The surgeon and the

> orthodontist are pleased. My tmj's are a WHOLE other story. Still

> wearing a splint 24/7 and go to Gainesville once a month for

> adjustments. Most day are painfree as long as I behave. (no wide

> opening or heavy chewing)Christmas time was difficult. TOO many

> goodies around!! I've put on alot of weight in the last year. I am

> not sure if it's the medication, diet, lack of exercise or

possibly

> all the above. I still get the occasional burning sensation in my

> chin. Which is very strange since I only ever had one tiny spot

under

> my chin that was numb. My smile has been altered, but no one seems

to

> notice but me. Are there any other January 2003 people here? How

is

> everyone doing?

>

> Funny story....I went for my annual dental checkup. The new

assistant

> was going through my chart and came upon some x-rays. She blurts

> out, " Oh, my goodness, you've broken your jaw TWICE! " I started

> chuckling and had to explain that it was done surgically. She had

> tons of questions. Another assistant and the dentist came in and

we

> just about had a party!!

>

> How everyone is well. Take Care. ~Cindy~

[Guest guest]

I had TMJ surgery in July '02, then BSSO/lower adv. in Feb. '03. My

TMJ problem is SO MUCH better now. I do have some pain (mostly in

bad weather), but the original type of pain isn't there any more.

I had all the cartilage removed from my left TMJ, as well has had the

temporal muscle grafted into the joint.

Due to the loss of bone and joint damage, my bite was way off, so I

had to have the BSSO/lower adv. It's amazing how well everything

turned out. I got my braces off last month.

I saw my before pictures and I couldn't believe how bad everything

looked.

Ask any questions and I'll be more than happy to answer them.

Regards,

Jane

> > Hi all you " old " timers! I see Irish, Cammie and Cheryl are still

> on

> > board. Report: The bite is still dead on. The surgeon and the

> > orthodontist are pleased. My tmj's are a WHOLE other story. Still

> > wearing a splint 24/7 and go to Gainesville once a month for

> > adjustments. Most day are painfree as long as I behave. (no wide

> > opening or heavy chewing)Christmas time was difficult. TOO many

> > goodies around!! I've put on alot of weight in the last year. I

am

> > not sure if it's the medication, diet, lack of exercise or

> possibly

> > all the above. I still get the occasional burning sensation in my

> > chin. Which is very strange since I only ever had one tiny spot

> under

> > my chin that was numb. My smile has been altered, but no one

seems

> to

> > notice but me. Are there any other January 2003 people here? How

> is

> > everyone doing?

> >

> > Funny story....I went for my annual dental checkup. The new

> assistant

> > was going through my chart and came upon some x-rays. She blurts

> > out, " Oh, my goodness, you've broken your jaw TWICE! " I started

> > chuckling and had to explain that it was done surgically. She had

> > tons of questions. Another assistant and the dentist came in and

> we

> > just about had a party!!

> >

> > How everyone is well. Take Care. ~Cindy~

[Guest guest]

> Hi all you " old " timers! I see Irish, Cammie and Cheryl are still

on

> board.

Hiya Cindy,

Thanks for the update. I guess you got kind of a mixed bag of

results there. I'm glad for the good things and sorry for the not-so-

good.

I still have to baby my TM joints, too. Bagels, steak and chewing

gum are still big no-no's for me. Other than that I'm doing well.

Definitely far better off than I was pre-op.

It's good to hear from you. Take care of yourself,

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Cindy -- let's not talk about weight. It's about all of that, I

think, and the fact that your eating habits were disturbed -- by the

splint, if nothing else!

But how great that the bite is where it needs to be!

Sorry you're still having tmj troubles, but that's another indication

that this surgery doesn't necessarily cure everything, much as we all

wish it would.

My funny story to compliment yours: When I went to my general dentist

for the first or second time out of appliances, he had a new

assistant. She looked in my mouth, then said to him, " My goodness,

her teeth are so straight. She must have worn braces. " The dentist

and I looked at each other and couldn't help giggling. He said, " Yep.

Twice. She got the last ones off in October. "

Still, it made me feel good. Turns out surgery has also been

recommended for the assistant's son, so she immediately got VERY

interested.

Cammie

> Hi all you " old " timers! I see Irish, Cammie and Cheryl are still

on

> board. Report: The bite is still dead on. The surgeon and the

> orthodontist are pleased. My tmj's are a WHOLE other story. Still

> wearing a splint 24/7 and go to Gainesville once a month for

> adjustments. Most day are painfree as long as I behave. (no wide

> opening or heavy chewing)Christmas time was difficult. TOO many

> goodies around!! I've put on alot of weight in the last year. I am

> not sure if it's the medication, diet, lack of exercise or possibly

> all the above. I still get the occasional burning sensation in my

> chin. Which is very strange since I only ever had one tiny spot

under

> my chin that was numb. My smile has been altered, but no one seems

to

> notice but me. Are there any other January 2003 people here? How is

> everyone doing?

>

> Funny story....I went for my annual dental checkup. The new

assistant

> was going through my chart and came upon some x-rays. She blurts

> out, " Oh, my goodness, you've broken your jaw TWICE! " I started

> chuckling and had to explain that it was done surgically. She had

> tons of questions. Another assistant and the dentist came in and we

> just about had a party!!

>

> How everyone is well. Take Care. ~Cindy~

[Guest guest]

Hi Cindy!

It's so nice to see you here again!

As you may remember, I too was a January 2003 surgery buddy of

yours! My anniversary will be 1/31 and I simply can't believe how

time has flown ...

I'm glad to hear your bite is stable but sorry about the TMJ's.

That's disappointing a year out of this whole thing.

As for me, so you can compare with someone who went in the same time

as you, my bite remains stable. No pain. The midline is staying

put. I go to see the ortho every 5 months or so for a retainer

tweaking. The only lingering effect of the surgery for me is

numbness. I have to admit that I am more numb than I had hoped at 1

year postop. But also after having 2 surgeries, I increased my risk

of lingering numbness. As I've mentioned here recently, I have no

regrets and am still very glad I did the surgery. However, the

numbness can be annoying. The middle of my chin is numb which I can

deal with. But my bottom lip is pretty much numb. I get the

old " altered sensation " if I run my finger along my bottom lip, yet

oddly, if I bite straight down on my bottom lip, I don't feel a

thing. I still get tinglies weekly in the lip and chin area so I'm

still confident for more feeling. My dentist who had lower done is

5 years postop and told me it took him well beyond 1 year to get all

of his feeling back, so I'm hopeful.

Thanks for checking in and good luck with the TMJ's. We've come a

long way, huh? 1 whole year!

Irish!

> Hi all you " old " timers! I see Irish, Cammie and Cheryl are still

on

> board. Report: The bite is still dead on. The surgeon and the

> orthodontist are pleased. My tmj's are a WHOLE other story. Still

> wearing a splint 24/7 and go to Gainesville once a month for

> adjustments. Most day are painfree as long as I behave. (no wide

> opening or heavy chewing)Christmas time was difficult. TOO many

> goodies around!! I've put on alot of weight in the last year. I am

> not sure if it's the medication, diet, lack of exercise or

possibly

> all the above. I still get the occasional burning sensation in my

> chin. Which is very strange since I only ever had one tiny spot

under

> my chin that was numb. My smile has been altered, but no one seems

to

> notice but me. Are there any other January 2003 people here? How

is

> everyone doing?

>

> Funny story....I went for my annual dental checkup. The new

assistant

> was going through my chart and came upon some x-rays. She blurts

> out, " Oh, my goodness, you've broken your jaw TWICE! " I started

> chuckling and had to explain that it was done surgically. She had

> tons of questions. Another assistant and the dentist came in and

we

> just about had a party!!

>

> How everyone is well. Take Care. ~Cindy~

[Guest guest]

Irish, like I would forget you! My mom still asks about you and

Cammie. My anniversary was actually 1/10. Flew right by me. I am so

glad to hear that things worked out for you. I am confident that the

muscles with eventually give in and surrender I have a question

for you, do you remember what the doc gave you for nausea? My mother

has been having a hard time with it and vertigo. Take Care, ~Cindy~

-- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " irishsmiles10 "

wrote:

> Hi Cindy!

>

> It's so nice to see you here again!

>

> As you may remember, I too was a January 2003 surgery buddy of

> yours! My anniversary will be 1/31 and I simply can't believe how

> time has flown ...

>

> I'm glad to hear your bite is stable but sorry about the TMJ's.

> That's disappointing a year out of this whole thing.

>

> As for me, so you can compare with someone who went in the same

time

> as you, my bite remains stable. No pain. The midline is staying

> put. I go to see the ortho every 5 months or so for a retainer

> tweaking. The only lingering effect of the surgery for me is

> numbness. I have to admit that I am more numb than I had hoped at

1

> year postop. But also after having 2 surgeries, I increased my

risk

> of lingering numbness. As I've mentioned here recently, I have no

> regrets and am still very glad I did the surgery. However, the

> numbness can be annoying. The middle of my chin is numb which I

can

> deal with. But my bottom lip is pretty much numb. I get the

> old " altered sensation " if I run my finger along my bottom lip, yet

> oddly, if I bite straight down on my bottom lip, I don't feel a

> thing. I still get tinglies weekly in the lip and chin area so I'm

> still confident for more feeling. My dentist who had lower done is

> 5 years postop and told me it took him well beyond 1 year to get

all

> of his feeling back, so I'm hopeful.

>

> Thanks for checking in and good luck with the TMJ's. We've come a

> long way, huh? 1 whole year!

>

> Irish!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Irish, like I would forget you! My mom still asks about you and

Cammie. My anniversary was actually 1/10. Flew right by me. I am so

glad to hear that things worked out for you. I am confident that the

muscles with eventually give in and surrender I have a question

for you, do you remember what the doc gave you for nausea? My mother

has been having a hard time with it and vertigo. Take Care, ~Cindy~

-- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " irishsmiles10 "

wrote:

> Hi Cindy!

>

> It's so nice to see you here again!

>

> As you may remember, I too was a January 2003 surgery buddy of

> yours! My anniversary will be 1/31 and I simply can't believe how

> time has flown ...

>

> I'm glad to hear your bite is stable but sorry about the TMJ's.

> That's disappointing a year out of this whole thing.

>

> As for me, so you can compare with someone who went in the same

time

> as you, my bite remains stable. No pain. The midline is staying

> put. I go to see the ortho every 5 months or so for a retainer

> tweaking. The only lingering effect of the surgery for me is

> numbness. I have to admit that I am more numb than I had hoped at

1

> year postop. But also after having 2 surgeries, I increased my

risk

> of lingering numbness. As I've mentioned here recently, I have no

> regrets and am still very glad I did the surgery. However, the

> numbness can be annoying. The middle of my chin is numb which I

can

> deal with. But my bottom lip is pretty much numb. I get the

> old " altered sensation " if I run my finger along my bottom lip, yet

> oddly, if I bite straight down on my bottom lip, I don't feel a

> thing. I still get tinglies weekly in the lip and chin area so I'm

> still confident for more feeling. My dentist who had lower done is

> 5 years postop and told me it took him well beyond 1 year to get

all

> of his feeling back, so I'm hopeful.

>

> Thanks for checking in and good luck with the TMJ's. We've come a

> long way, huh? 1 whole year!

>

> Irish!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Irish, like I would forget you! My mom still asks about you and

Cammie. My anniversary was actually 1/10. Flew right by me. I am so

glad to hear that things worked out for you. I am confident that the

muscles with eventually give in and surrender I have a question

for you, do you remember what the doc gave you for nausea? My mother

has been having a hard time with it and vertigo. Take Care, ~Cindy~

-- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " irishsmiles10 "

wrote:

> Hi Cindy!

>

> It's so nice to see you here again!

>

> As you may remember, I too was a January 2003 surgery buddy of

> yours! My anniversary will be 1/31 and I simply can't believe how

> time has flown ...

>

> I'm glad to hear your bite is stable but sorry about the TMJ's.

> That's disappointing a year out of this whole thing.

>

> As for me, so you can compare with someone who went in the same

time

> as you, my bite remains stable. No pain. The midline is staying

> put. I go to see the ortho every 5 months or so for a retainer

> tweaking. The only lingering effect of the surgery for me is

> numbness. I have to admit that I am more numb than I had hoped at

1

> year postop. But also after having 2 surgeries, I increased my

risk

> of lingering numbness. As I've mentioned here recently, I have no

> regrets and am still very glad I did the surgery. However, the

> numbness can be annoying. The middle of my chin is numb which I

can

> deal with. But my bottom lip is pretty much numb. I get the

> old " altered sensation " if I run my finger along my bottom lip, yet

> oddly, if I bite straight down on my bottom lip, I don't feel a

> thing. I still get tinglies weekly in the lip and chin area so I'm

> still confident for more feeling. My dentist who had lower done is

> 5 years postop and told me it took him well beyond 1 year to get

all

> of his feeling back, so I'm hopeful.

>

> Thanks for checking in and good luck with the TMJ's. We've come a

> long way, huh? 1 whole year!

>

> Irish!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jane,

Did you have any other associated problems, i.e. nerve damage? Do

you have any numbness in your lip and chin, as in most cases?

Thanks,

Virginia

> > > Hi all you " old " timers! I see Irish, Cammie and Cheryl are

still

> > on

> > > board. Report: The bite is still dead on. The surgeon and the

> > > orthodontist are pleased. My tmj's are a WHOLE other story.

Still

> > > wearing a splint 24/7 and go to Gainesville once a month for

> > > adjustments. Most day are painfree as long as I behave. (no

wide

> > > opening or heavy chewing)Christmas time was difficult. TOO many

> > > goodies around!! I've put on alot of weight in the last year. I

> am

> > > not sure if it's the medication, diet, lack of exercise or

> > possibly

> > > all the above. I still get the occasional burning sensation in

my

> > > chin. Which is very strange since I only ever had one tiny spot

> > under

> > > my chin that was numb. My smile has been altered, but no one

> seems

> > to

> > > notice but me. Are there any other January 2003 people here?

How

> > is

> > > everyone doing?

> > >

> > > Funny story....I went for my annual dental checkup. The new

> > assistant

> > > was going through my chart and came upon some x-rays. She

blurts

> > > out, " Oh, my goodness, you've broken your jaw TWICE! " I started

> > > chuckling and had to explain that it was done surgically. She

had

> > > tons of questions. Another assistant and the dentist came in

and

> > we

> > > just about had a party!!

> > >

> > > How everyone is well. Take Care. ~Cindy~