Re: UK

[Guest guest]

hey

where you from?

I am from south wales and I had my surgery on the 2nd feb. have you got a d8

for yours yet?

x

[Guest guest]

Sue is -- I think her yahoo name is something like Jasperalice. And

Kat, who doesn't post much any more is, too, but she's in college and

pretty busy with that. There was a woman who lived far up in

Scotland, too, but we haven't heard from her in a while. And I think

there are some others, but I can't remember who right now.

I'm thinking that Sue is either having surgery now, or just about to

do so...

Kat had hers some time back, had quite an underbite, and did really,

really well. Her doc used those absorbable plates, which are still

experimental in the USA, I think.

Cammie

> Hi again

>

> Is there anyone at all from the UK on this list?

>

> Best wishes

>

> Becky

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i think this person meant university of kentucky and not united

kingdom. i may be wrong...but that is how i interpreted it.

> > Hi again

> >

> > Is there anyone at all from the UK on this list?

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Becky

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

i think this person meant university of kentucky and not united

kingdom. i may be wrong...but that is how i interpreted it.

> > Hi again

> >

> > Is there anyone at all from the UK on this list?

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Becky

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi, where abouts in the Uk are you? It is great to here from someone

else in the UK on this site.

Your lucky just to have had braces for only 18 months. I had already

had fixed braces for about 18 months, and have had a reatiner since

May 2003, I am going to be getting a fixed brace back on again, I

dont actually know why they took it off.

Do you have any information about the sugery at all that you could

tell me about, i know that you are yet to have surgery, but any info

is useful, as I dont seem to have been told alot by my ortho.

Thanks.

Rach

> Hi Becky and Squiggles!

>

> I'm Sue also from the UK - posted a couple of days ago to say my

> surgery is now booked for 14th April, lower and now upper.

>

> Been in braces nearly 18 months now and looking forward, with

> trepidation, to the op! I'm one of the (how do I put this

> tactfully?!) more mature members of this group, at 44. I failed

> with braces at 11 (scared stiff of the ortho and refused to wear

> them) and seeing good results (non-surgically) with my 15 yr old

> daughter decided it was something I needed to do before losing my

> teeth to dentures and wanting to not shy away from looking at

photos

> of myself and having to face the hairdresser's mirror!

>

> It would also be my dream come true if it knocked my migraines on

> the head. As I think they're hereditary I don't hold much hope!

>

> Joanne has had her surgery this week, also from the UK, and as soon

> as she is able will no doubt post.

>

> Best wishes

> Sue (UK)

[Guest guest]

Ooops! I guess that just goes to prove that one should never assume

anything. I reckon it also could be the University of Kansas...

Neither Kentucky nor Kansas even occurred to me, I confess. My

apologies to all the other UKs that could have been intended... And

the folks I mentioned are indeed in the United Kingdom.

Cammie

> > > Hi again

> > >

> > > Is there anyone at all from the UK on this list?

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > > Becky

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sticking my nose into this conversation again, all the way from

Alabama!

Sue, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you on the migraines. There are

a number of people who have found considerable relief from them post

op (whether it's causative, I dunno, but it has happened).

I think I had one of the most unexpected side benefits anybody's

mentioned. Before surgery, I'd had some carotid bruits. Even

underwent some utrasonic tests to see what was up. The report was

that there was a small blockage, but nothing significant. Now nobody,

including a cardiologist, can hear them at all! Just amazing what can

happen.

Good wishes for the surgery, and the migraines.

Cammie

> Hi Becky and Squiggles!

>

> I'm Sue also from the UK - posted a couple of days ago to say my

> surgery is now booked for 14th April, lower and now upper.

>

> Been in braces nearly 18 months now and looking forward, with

> trepidation, to the op! I'm one of the (how do I put this

> tactfully?!) more mature members of this group, at 44. I failed

> with braces at 11 (scared stiff of the ortho and refused to wear

> them) and seeing good results (non-surgically) with my 15 yr old

> daughter decided it was something I needed to do before losing my

> teeth to dentures and wanting to not shy away from looking at

photos

> of myself and having to face the hairdresser's mirror!

>

> It would also be my dream come true if it knocked my migraines on

> the head. As I think they're hereditary I don't hold much hope!

>

> Joanne has had her surgery this week, also from the UK, and as soon

> as she is able will no doubt post.

>

> Best wishes

> Sue (UK)

[Guest guest]

I don't know about 'experimental'. My doc says that they have been

around for years and years. He started using them in reconctructing

the faces of children born with birth defects. (I'm guessing that

children can 'grow out' of metal plates and screws?) He says it

wasn't much of a jump to take it to orthognastic surgery.

I told him that according to what I read in this board, not very

many docs in the US use it, and he was surprised. He also said,

however, that he agrees that wiring does give better stability.

Some docs may know about polymers and choose the wires anyway. Mine

says that wiring is an option if I want it, but he finds that if the

jaws drift slightly, it's easy enough to bring them back with rubber

bands, and the emotional aspects are far, far worth it in his

opinion. His patients who have not been wired fare far better

mentally than his patients who have been wired. Since half of

healing is mental, he feels that's a legitimate compensation.

Kris

> > Hi again

> >

> > Is there anyone at all from the UK on this list?

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Becky

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Fascinating. And certainly what you say makes good sense to me. I

know. no I KNOW!!!! that my attitude and approach were much better

than they would have been if I had been wired shut. Or even tightly

banded.

I still think, though, if wiring had been the thing my surgeon

wanted, thought it gave him the best shot at a good fix, I'd have

done it that way. I wanted to give him what HE thought was the best

chance at fixing whatever was wrong with my jaws.

My guy believes, he told me, that the healing is better anyhow

without wiring, as the muscles can move more easily into their new

relationships and not all of a sudden zing back with a whap into

their previous situations. Not everybody believes the same thing,

though, clearly.

Cammie

> I don't know about 'experimental'. My doc says that they have been

> around for years and years. He started using them in

reconctructing

> the faces of children born with birth defects. (I'm guessing that

> children can 'grow out' of metal plates and screws?) He says it

> wasn't much of a jump to take it to orthognastic surgery.

>

> I told him that according to what I read in this board, not very

> many docs in the US use it, and he was surprised. He also said,

> however, that he agrees that wiring does give better stability.

> Some docs may know about polymers and choose the wires anyway.

Mine

> says that wiring is an option if I want it, but he finds that if

the

> jaws drift slightly, it's easy enough to bring them back with

rubber

> bands, and the emotional aspects are far, far worth it in his

> opinion. His patients who have not been wired fare far better

> mentally than his patients who have been wired. Since half of

> healing is mental, he feels that's a legitimate compensation.

>

> Kris

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi I'm from the UK also. What you said about the mirror in the

hairdresser's really hit home with me. I need surgery to top and

bottom jaws to move them moved forwards. I'm currently looking for a

surgeon can I ask how much yours will cost and which surgeon you are

using? (or does anyone have a rough idea how much this type of

surgery costs??)

Thanks.

> Hi Becky and Squiggles!

>

> I'm Sue also from the UK - posted a couple of days ago to say my

> surgery is now booked for 14th April, lower and now upper.

>

> Been in braces nearly 18 months now and looking forward, with

> trepidation, to the op! I'm one of the (how do I put this

> tactfully?!) more mature members of this group, at 44. I failed

> with braces at 11 (scared stiff of the ortho and refused to wear

> them) and seeing good results (non-surgically) with my 15 yr old

> daughter decided it was something I needed to do before losing my

> teeth to dentures and wanting to not shy away from looking at

photos

> of myself and having to face the hairdresser's mirror!

>

> It would also be my dream come true if it knocked my migraines on

> the head. As I think they're hereditary I don't hold much hope!

>

> Joanne has had her surgery this week, also from the UK, and as

soon

> as she is able will no doubt post.

>

> Best wishes

> Sue (UK)

[Guest guest]

I totaly agree about the mirror thing. I hate lookign at myself in

mirrors, especially when there is also someone else looking int he

same mirror.

R

> > Hi Becky and Squiggles!

> >

> > I'm Sue also from the UK - posted a couple of days ago to say my

> > surgery is now booked for 14th April, lower and now upper.

> >

> > Been in braces nearly 18 months now and looking forward, with

> > trepidation, to the op! I'm one of the (how do I put this

> > tactfully?!) more mature members of this group, at 44. I failed

> > with braces at 11 (scared stiff of the ortho and refused to wear

> > them) and seeing good results (non-surgically) with my 15 yr old

> > daughter decided it was something I needed to do before losing my

> > teeth to dentures and wanting to not shy away from looking at

> photos

> > of myself and having to face the hairdresser's mirror!

> >

> > It would also be my dream come true if it knocked my migraines on

> > the head. As I think they're hereditary I don't hold much hope!

> >

> > Joanne has had her surgery this week, also from the UK, and as

> soon

> > as she is able will no doubt post.

> >

> > Best wishes

> > Sue (UK)

[Guest guest]

Hi Violet?

I am having surgery on the NHS although my orthodontics is private

and costing £2,500. When I queried with the surgeon how much a

lower advancement would be privately he said a ballpark figure of

£4,000. I don't have health insurance which is why I did not take

that route.

I was a bit worried it would take forever getting surgery on the

NHS. From the time the ortho said I was ready it too just over

three months to get to see the consultant - my appointment was

beginning of February. I saw him two weeks later and got the

surgery booked for April so that wasn't too bad.

Best wishes

Sue (UK)

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue

I found your post really interesting. I live on the outskirts of London. The

consultant I saw at my local hospital (which has an orthodontic department) said

that I was lucky to see him when I did aged 22 (I'm not 23) as the NHS only

covers people 25 and under. Maybe Scotland is different to England or maybe

different health authorities have varying criteria?? It's a very interesting

area as many people have different experiences etc.

I'm unsubscribing later today as I can't keep up with all the mail but I'd

really like to stay in touch off of the group!! It'd be great to hear how

everything goes. With college work and Uni work (I'm doing two part time

courses-soon to be three). I don't think I'd be abe to keep up with everything.

Best wishes

Becky

Re: UK

Hi Violet?

I am having surgery on the NHS although my orthodontics is private

and costing £2,500. When I queried with the surgeon how much a

lower advancement would be privately he said a ballpark figure of

£4,000. I don't have health insurance which is why I did not take

that route.

I was a bit worried it would take forever getting surgery on the

NHS. From the time the ortho said I was ready it too just over

three months to get to see the consultant - my appointment was

beginning of February. I saw him two weeks later and got the

surgery booked for April so that wasn't too bad.

Best wishes

Sue (UK)