Re: Back Pain - Need advice!! Please!!

[Guest guest]

I don't understand it, either, Eileen, but I know it to be true. Some

years ago, a friend broke a shoulder. The injury threw his whole

skeletal system out of whack and it took extensive PT and massage

(the ouch! kind, not the Ahhhh... kind) to get things back in synch.

The jaw is right in there with the balance system and spine, too.

It's just astounding how " the hip bone's connected to the leg

bone... " and so on all throughout the body. And I think it's sort of

like pick up stix... one stick in the wrong place can unbalance the

whole bunch.

cammie

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > It's currently 3:30 am and I cannot sleep, so I thought I would

post

> > and see if anyone had the problem I'm having. Currently, my back

> > feels as if it got ran over by a truck and has knifes being

wrenched

> > all over my spine. I can't stand to sleep or lay on my back or

> > stomach. No matter what I do, I can't get any sort of comfort at

all.

> > I feel a sort of " rush of blood " to the head where I can feel my

> > pulse just taking over my body and I feel so incredibly weird. I

> > don't know what's going on, but I thought I would post since I'm

> > lacking sleep and have absolutely nothing to take, pain wise.

I'll

> > just sit here until I can bare to go back to bed. I don't really

mean

> > to complain, I just wanted to see if anyone else experienced such

bad

> > back pain. This is definitely not a one time thing, but it IS one

of

> > the worst flare up I've had. I have asked my ortho and surgeon

about

> > it, but they just said " well, you have a new jaw position, it'll

do

> > that, " and didn't help me out further. They also said that " well,

I

> > guess you could try a chiropractor again, but I don't know how

much

> > that would help - your whole body is different now. "

> >

> > Anyways, if anyone has any help or suggestions - please please

please

> > respond. I haven't had a good nights sleep or even a day without

pain

> > since the day I had my braces put on.

> >

> > Thanks so much,

> > Andy

[Guest guest]

And to show it can work the other way, I haven't had any back pain

since I separated my collar bone from my shoulder a couple of years

ago playing football on the beach. My bride swears the impact

incurred when I whacked my shoulder re-aligned something in my back,

even though I'd previously been through tons of PT, meds, exercise, x-

rays, etc. Now, personally I wouldn't recommend diving shoulder

first into the hardpacked sand in order to try and reproduce this

injury as it was SIGNIFICANTLY more painful than my back troubles.

Dammit

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > It's currently 3:30 am and I cannot sleep, so I thought I would

> post

> > > and see if anyone had the problem I'm having. Currently, my

back

> > > feels as if it got ran over by a truck and has knifes being

> wrenched

> > > all over my spine. I can't stand to sleep or lay on my back or

> > > stomach. No matter what I do, I can't get any sort of comfort

at

> all.

> > > I feel a sort of " rush of blood " to the head where I can feel

my

> > > pulse just taking over my body and I feel so incredibly weird.

I

> > > don't know what's going on, but I thought I would post since

I'm

> > > lacking sleep and have absolutely nothing to take, pain wise.

> I'll

> > > just sit here until I can bare to go back to bed. I don't

really

> mean

> > > to complain, I just wanted to see if anyone else experienced

such

> bad

> > > back pain. This is definitely not a one time thing, but it IS

one

> of

> > > the worst flare up I've had. I have asked my ortho and surgeon

> about

> > > it, but they just said " well, you have a new jaw position,

it'll

> do

> > > that, " and didn't help me out further. They also said

that " well,

> I

> > > guess you could try a chiropractor again, but I don't know how

> much

> > > that would help - your whole body is different now. "

> > >

> > > Anyways, if anyone has any help or suggestions - please please

> please

> > > respond. I haven't had a good nights sleep or even a day

without

> pain

> > > since the day I had my braces put on.

> > >

> > > Thanks so much,

> > > Andy

[Guest guest]

Wow. This is interesting. I read 's post, and I never had any

idea the whole muscular-skeletal system would be interrelated.

E

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > It's currently 3:30 am and I cannot sleep, so I thought I would

> post

> > > and see if anyone had the problem I'm having. Currently, my back

> > > feels as if it got ran over by a truck and has knifes being

> wrenched

> > > all over my spine. I can't stand to sleep or lay on my back or

> > > stomach. No matter what I do, I can't get any sort of comfort at

> all.

> > > I feel a sort of " rush of blood " to the head where I can feel my

> > > pulse just taking over my body and I feel so incredibly weird. I

> > > don't know what's going on, but I thought I would post since I'm

> > > lacking sleep and have absolutely nothing to take, pain wise.

> I'll

> > > just sit here until I can bare to go back to bed. I don't really

> mean

> > > to complain, I just wanted to see if anyone else experienced such

> bad

> > > back pain. This is definitely not a one time thing, but it IS one

> of

> > > the worst flare up I've had. I have asked my ortho and surgeon

> about

> > > it, but they just said " well, you have a new jaw position, it'll

> do

> > > that, " and didn't help me out further. They also said that " well,

> I

> > > guess you could try a chiropractor again, but I don't know how

> much

> > > that would help - your whole body is different now. "

> > >

> > > Anyways, if anyone has any help or suggestions - please please

> please

> > > respond. I haven't had a good nights sleep or even a day without

> pain

> > > since the day I had my braces put on.

> > >

> > > Thanks so much,

> > > Andy

[Guest guest]

Hi Andy,

I figured it might be confusing for you. If I had to pick one person,

in retrospect, to help me, it would have been my cranial-sacral

massage therapist. The reason is that she is a true whole-body

therapist. Everyone else worked on on my symptoms or a selective part

of the body. That's not to say you shouldn't explore as many

possibilities as you can, yes, do that, to make sure there isn't

something more serious going on. But as I found out, all of those

other practitioners either said " your xrays are perfect, no problem "

or " I don't know what's wrong " , or " keep doing what you are doing " .

Getting back to the meditation, that sounds far-fetched, I know, but

it's not really. It, like yoga, is becoming very mainstream. The

course that I took is actually a special course developed by someone

who is the head of the pain & stress clinic at U of Massachussets,

Jon Kabat-Zinn. It is an eight week program, and it's very helpful

for people with pain. It doesn't get rid of the pain, but it changes

your whole approach to dealing with it. If you want to look into

something like this, try a search on MBSR or " Mindfulness-Based

Stress Reduction " in your area. This course was facilitated by a

psychiatrist and psychotherapist, so it was covered by our provincial

health insurance plan in part, I paid the balance of $299. Well worth

it.

Good luck,

> I finally broke down and went to my chiropractor yesterday. No

matter

> what I felt, I couldn't NOT do anything. He definitely helped. I

> asked him why he thought my back was out so badly and he gave me a

> few different guesses about my bite settling and the new posture,

> etc. All of which I assumed and read from everyone's posts.

>

> The pain is more bearable right now, but I have to figure out where

> to go from there. Everyone has given me so much good advice I'm

> baffled! (Although that's not all that uncommon... )

>

> Thanks again for all the advice. It's always a relief when I know I

> can come here and always have wonderful people to help me out.

>

> Take Care,

> Andy