Brain Fog

[Guest guest]

--

You must be a terrific person because you give voice to what my precious husband

does every day. He cares about me.

He doesn't smoother me or sink my boat with too much sympathy. He just cares

about me. He quietly goes about his daily life and does almost all of the

things I used to do around the house. When he senses that I am just too tired

to even cook a simple dinner he suggests going out or bringing something in. He

has never once complained about my lack of energy. He just waits patiently for

me to let him know that I have enough engery to do whatever it is we need or

want to do. When I have an attack of brain fog he does his best to correct my

blunders before I get too frustrated with myself. For all of these reasons and

a million more I feel like I am safely wrapped in the softest protective armor

imagainable because he is so calm and steady.

If you can do any of that for Vicky you will both benefit immensely. You can't

make the disease go away but you can be a part of making a terrific life with

it.

You should also remember that you need and deserve care too. I never feel like

I give back nearly enough but my husband claims that I do so I try not to

belabor the point.

Good Luck, Cheri

i can handle this, at least i think and i hope that i can... i will

be there for her always... what frightens me is is that i will screw

up in the future and that my action or inaction will cause more harm

to her...

i guess what i am really getting at is that it seems that most

members here are sufferers of pa/etc... what, in all of your

experience, can a supporter of a loved one with pa/etc do? she has my

ultimate love and support, but it just doesn't seem to be enuff...

it is so hard when you care for somebody so much and you don't know

what to do... i would trade places with her in a heartbeat if she

could just have one night without pain... sorry if i ramble...

i guess i just am at a loss for words now and don't know quite what

to say... so let me just let vic know that i love her and i will

always be here for her, no matter what... we'll face it together...

i love you babe...

-brian

[Editor's Note: , such support for your loved one should NEVER be

considered as " it just doesn't seem to be enuff... " And you've already hit on

one of the most important things you can do for her: keep " trading places " with

her, as best you can, by which I mean, don't just " sympathize " with her, but

" empathize " , put yourself in her place, listen to her without saying to yourself

" she looks normal, why does she complain, or say she can't do such simple

things? " She is lucky to have you, and it's a shame that people of your quality

can sometimes be so hard to find....You may not know, so ask her sometime how

much your understanding and caring means to her....

D.]

> I get brain fog quite a lot.. my mind just goes fuzzy.. I always

thought it was just me.. it never occured to me to ask on here if

anyone else got it. I'm 18, studying an advanced VCE course in

college, and I find it really difficult to learn, and take things in

when I get foggy. I find I get really tired quickly when I'm

foggy..think that and fatigue related?

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/13/2003 9:42:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

coraldelopez@... writes:

> the brain fog that is affecting him.

Coral, I have had a lot of luck taking folic acid supplements. I am not

entirely sure that it was the folic acid that helped, but it seemed like after I

starting taking it (1-2 per day), the fatigue lessened and my head got clearer.

There is some evidence that those of us with PA have low Folic Acid levels, he

may want to ask his doctor to add that test to his next round of bloodwork.

[Guest guest]

,

I appreciate your response very much. I will tell

him to ask his doctor about this, we had no idea that

the Folic Acid levels could be lower on PA patients.

Thank you,

Coral

--- rachelviognier@... escribió:

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In a message dated 12/13/2003 9:42:16 PM Eastern

Standard Time, coraldelopez@... writes:

> the brain fog that is affecting him.

Coral, I have had a lot of luck taking folic acid

supplements. I am not entirely sure that it was the

folic acid that helped, but it seemed like after I

starting taking it (1-2 per day), the fatigue lessened

and my head got clearer. There is some evidence that

those of us with PA have low Folic Acid levels, he may

want to ask his doctor to add that test to his next

round of bloodwork.

Please visit our Psoriatic Arthritis Group's

informational web page at:

http://www.wpunj.edu/pa/ -- created and edited by list

member aka(raharris@...).

Also,in August 2001,list member Jack aka

Cornishpro@... began to conduct extensive research

which he publishes as the " Psoriatic Arthritis

Research Newsletter " , monthly in our email and digest

format. Many thanks to Jack. Back issues of the

newsletter are stored on our PA webpage as well as the

archives of the list.

Don't forget that the list archives comprise a

tremendous amount of information (Over three years of

messages and answers).Feel free to browse them at your

convenience.

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[Guest guest]

I too have been trying to think of a better word to describe what is going on

in my head.

Lyme Brain is another term that just doesn't quite explain it.

The past 24 hours have been challenging along with a little bit scary due to

" brain fog or Lyme Brain " .

I do have times when things are less intense than other times. I am thankful

for that.

I don't know if it is really helping or not...but I make sure I am getting

lots of water down me when it gets rough, take a bath with epsom salts, and just

wait it out.

MOst of the time I am OK with being on my own. But, during the intense head

stuff...I feel so much better if someone is also around.

[Guest guest]

> Does anyone else think that term is a little bit of an

> understatement? It's more like a brain block if you ask me.

> Objective thought on most subjects is nearly impossible especially

> if it's abstract. Is anyone else not able to think hardly at all? I

> mean, I feel like I have no thoughts of my own. like I'm a robot

> just responding to the events in my enviornment. If that makes any

> sense at all. It doesn't really go away either. Anyone else dealt

> with or dealing with this?

>

> -Tim

For at least six months I was in a continuous zombie-like state of

consciousness similar to what you describe. For me there was more of

a spaciness component to it, like I was not really there, if you know

what I mean. Sort of like half asleep or halfway into a coma, all

the time. Sometimes I would be talking and not have any idea what I

was saying to people, because I was so out of it, or I would do

things robotically like you said. For some reason with me, my

writing ability was never significantly affected but my speaking

ability was. Maybe because with writing you can take longer to

compose your thoughts. Cognitively I was okay most of the time, but

my concentration was not very good and I was more easily

distractable. The biggest problem was that I just felt as though I

had been drugged, and it was quite an unpleasant feeling. All of

this has improved significantly for me in the last several months,

although I still feel a bit foggy and sometimes it can get bad, but

it's not constant.

What I think has helped me most to improve these symptoms is

magnesium replacement (I had an intracellular magnesium deficiency),

colon cleansing and detoxing. You might want to look into anti-

candida colon cleanse regimens as well as saunas to sweat out

toxins. (A word of warning, however: be sure not to go too fast with

colon cleansing or you could pay the price like I did with temporary

irritation to the intestinal tract.) If toxins are constantly

circulating in the body and not getting eliminated through the bowel

and the skin (because liver and kidneys are overwhelmed), then you

will have all these unpleasant mental symptoms including brain fog.

Also, you could consider increasing your intake of antioxidants such

as Vitamin C, E, Alpha Lipoic Acid, and precursors of glutathione

(especially undenatured whey). Molybdenum is supposed to help break

down toxins and reduce brain fog. Some people use pycnogenol or

grape seed extract, which are powerful antioxidants that cross the

blood brain barrier and detoxify the brain. If you aren't already,

it's important to drink a gallon of purified water per day to help

flush out toxins through the urinary system.

You probably know all this stuff already, but maybe not so I thought

I'd mention some of these ideas.

Freebird

[Guest guest]

At times it's almost hard to believe that all this is treatable and

you're not going to die. heh.

[Guest guest]

yes, and it improves w/time.

sarah

[ ] " Brain fog "

Does anyone else think that term is a little bit of an

understatement? It's more like a brain block if you ask me.

Objective thought on most subjects is nearly impossible especially

if it's abstract. Is anyone else not able to think hardly at all? I

mean, I feel like I have no thoughts of my own. like I'm a robot

just responding to the events in my enviornment. If that makes any

sense at all. It doesn't really go away either. Anyone else dealt

with or dealing with this?

-Tim

[Guest guest]

Jeri,

I too felt supplements helped me. But, they are not in the budget at this

time.

I hope the supplements continue to help you.

[Guest guest]

Sure do. Not only that but I also have BIG problems with spelling and putting a

sentence together. I think people I meet for the first time must think I'm

retarded in some way or drunk with my slurre speach.

freebird_laughlin <freebirdlaughlin@...> wrote:

> Does anyone else think that term is a little bit of an

> understatement? It's more like a brain block if you ask me.

> Objective thought on most subjects is nearly impossible especially

> if it's abstract. Is anyone else not able to think hardly at all? I

> mean, I feel like I have no thoughts of my own. like I'm a robot

> just responding to the events in my enviornment. If that makes any

> sense at all. It doesn't really go away either. Anyone else dealt

> with or dealing with this?

>

> -Tim

For at least six months I was in a continuous zombie-like state of

consciousness similar to what you describe. For me there was more of

a spaciness component to it, like I was not really there, if you know

what I mean. Sort of like half asleep or halfway into a coma, all

the time. Sometimes I would be talking and not have any idea what I

was saying to people, because I was so out of it, or I would do

things robotically like you said. For some reason with me, my

writing ability was never significantly affected but my speaking

ability was. Maybe because with writing you can take longer to

compose your thoughts. Cognitively I was okay most of the time, but

my concentration was not very good and I was more easily

distractable. The biggest problem was that I just felt as though I

had been drugged, and it was quite an unpleasant feeling. All of

this has improved significantly for me in the last several months,

although I still feel a bit foggy and sometimes it can get bad, but

it's not constant.

What I think has helped me most to improve these symptoms is

magnesium replacement (I had an intracellular magnesium deficiency),

colon cleansing and detoxing. You might want to look into anti-

candida colon cleanse regimens as well as saunas to sweat out

toxins. (A word of warning, however: be sure not to go too fast with

colon cleansing or you could pay the price like I did with temporary

irritation to the intestinal tract.) If toxins are constantly

circulating in the body and not getting eliminated through the bowel

and the skin (because liver and kidneys are overwhelmed), then you

will have all these unpleasant mental symptoms including brain fog.

Also, you could consider increasing your intake of antioxidants such

as Vitamin C, E, Alpha Lipoic Acid, and precursors of glutathione

(especially undenatured whey). Molybdenum is supposed to help break

down toxins and reduce brain fog. Some people use pycnogenol or

grape seed extract, which are powerful antioxidants that cross the

blood brain barrier and detoxify the brain. If you aren't already,

it's important to drink a gallon of purified water per day to help

flush out toxins through the urinary system.

You probably know all this stuff already, but maybe not so I thought

I'd mention some of these ideas.

Freebird

[Guest guest]

> I've heard the term " brain fog " used a lot on this list and I

wanted to ask,

> what is your definition of bf? And are you talking about memory

loss too?

>

> I ask because my memory is becoming atrocious. It's so bad, I get

> embarassed sometimes. And I hate going to social functions because

I can

> never remember names. Can Candida affect your memory?

>

> I also recently found out I have high levels of mercury in my

system and

> thought I read somewhere that mercury toxicity can affect memory.

Any

> thoughts?

>

> Thanks

Hi, my brain fog was pretty bad, I would drive to work and couldn't

for the life of me remember driving there. I knew I did I just

couldn't remember doing it, I would just go through the motions.

[Guest guest]

It is my understanding that mercury can definitely cause brain fog

because mercury can cross into the brain. A very dear friend of mine

is suffering a myriad of health problems from mercury, and she is

definitely suffering from it. Brain fog in my interpretation means

you can't think as well. You have a hard time problem solving, you

can't remember things, and when you are having conversations you lose

your train of thought. Things are not clear, as if in a fog.

> I've heard the term " brain fog " used a lot on this list and I

wanted to ask,

> what is your definition of bf? And are you talking about memory

loss too?

>

> I ask because my memory is becoming atrocious. It's so bad, I get

> embarassed sometimes. And I hate going to social functions because

I can

> never remember names. Can Candida affect your memory?

>

> I also recently found out I have high levels of mercury in my

system and

> thought I read somewhere that mercury toxicity can affect memory.

Any

> thoughts?

>

> Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi Sherry,

I'm sure glad that you are doing better. I have also had the yo-yo effect. I did my first liver flush last night.

Are you still taking anti-fungals and probiotics or have you been able to stop them? I do not know what to expect. I am cheating a little bit on my food intake this afternoon and am hoping that I have no adverse effects.

DebbieSherry Bowlin <sjbowlin@...> wrote:

Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:34:33 -0500 From: "Penny " <penelopea@...>I've heard the term "brain fog" used a lot on this list and I wanted to ask,what is your definition of bf?Hi Penny, My symptoms that I call "brain fog" are general fuzziness in thinking,exhaustion both mentally and physically. Not able to concentrate. What Icall a lack of ambition, i.e. I know a particular thing needs to be done, Iknow the steps to take to do it but I can't seem to put those steps intoaction. Weird. Thankfully, that seems to be behind me -- Oh God I hope so!!!!!!! Itried the supplements and natural antifungals, the probiotics andprebiotics. But I yo-yoed between feeling good and then feeling bad again.Until I started

the liver flushing. Since I did the first one about threeweeks to a month ago I have felt good -- no backsliding. I'll be doing mysecond one tomorrow.Sherry (from Oregon)

[Guest guest]

Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:42:20 -0800 (PST)

From: Deborah Higgs <dhiggs232003@...>

I'm sure glad that you are doing better. I have also had the yo-yo effect.

I did my first liver flush last night.

Are you still taking anti-fungals and probiotics or have you been able to

stop them? I do not know what to expect. I am cheating a little bit on my

food intake this afternoon and am hoping that I have no adverse effects.

Hi Debbie,

Good for you on trying the liver flush! The first step is the hardest,

isn't it! )

At this time I'm not taking any antifungals or probiotics. I'm feeling

quite good actually and I think I'll get my liver all cleaned out before I

take them again so that, hopefully, they'll work even better and I won't be

pouring money down the drain. (One amendment to what I said -- I am still

making and drinking cabbage rejuvelac. It costs pennies and I figure it

can't hurt to continue to infuse those happy little lactobacteria into my

digestive system.) )

Sherry (from Oregon)

[Guest guest]

Brain fog is a subject I'm very interested in as it is one of my daughter (8 yrs old) biggest issues. She has a bad case of yeast overgrowth due to antibiotics when she was young. I've been trying to get to the root here, and determine if the brain fog she suffers is from mercury or not. The hair tests indicate probably not, (looking at the counting rules of mineral transports and all), but just not sure. Then on her hair test I discovered she is off the chart in the area of aluminum and high on antinomy, but which seriously can cause brain fog issues. She would have got the aluminum in our tap water I gave her for 4 years. But we've been on reverse osmosis for over a year, and she is still very high so I'm not seeing it come out. I am treating for chelating the aluminum with malic acid and aggressively the yeast too, then I guess we'll see if the brain fog changes. However I am leery about ruling out mercury. Just don't want to go there until I have to.

Many people will say brain fog can be candida, however the linger question is always out there what caused candida...

Kari

Re: brain fog

It is my understanding that mercury can definitely cause brain fog because mercury can cross into the brain. A very dear friend of mine is suffering a myriad of health problems from mercury, and she is definitely suffering from it. Brain fog in my interpretation means you can't think as well. You have a hard time problem solving, you can't remember things, and when you are having conversations you lose your train of thought. Things are not clear, as if in a fog.> I've heard the term "brain fog" used a lot on this list and I wanted to ask,> what is your definition of bf? And are you talking about memory loss too?> > I ask because my memory is becoming atrocious. It's so bad, I get> embarassed sometimes. And I hate going to social functions because I can> never remember names. Can Candida affect your memory?> > I also recently found out I have high levels of mercury in my system and> thought I read somewhere that mercury toxicity can affect memory. Any> thoughts?> > Thanks

[Guest guest]

Kari-

my understanding of brain fog is that it results due to excessive

toxins, not necessarily metals, in fact, probably metabolic and

digestive toxins, circulating throughout the body. This would

indicate blocked pathways of elimination- kidneys, colon and liver,

and a poorly functioning digestive system.

> > I've heard the term " brain fog " used a lot on this list and I

> wanted to ask,

> > what is your definition of bf? And are you talking about

memory

> loss too?

> >

> > I ask because my memory is becoming atrocious. It's so bad, I

get

> > embarassed sometimes. And I hate going to social functions

because

> I can

> > never remember names. Can Candida affect your memory?

> >

> > I also recently found out I have high levels of mercury in my

> system and

> > thought I read somewhere that mercury toxicity can affect

memory.

> Any

> > thoughts?

> >

> > Thanks

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This actually makes a lot of sense. The other day I was seeing this doctor who has been treating candida patients for years, and he explained that the body/brain is in the same shape that one is in when they are hung over. Can't recall the specifics as to why. Now that I could relate too! My candida is pretty mild, and I don't have the brain fog BUT due to the candida mostly if I drink I have it horribly the next day. Took me way to long to figure out this wasn't a normal hang over. But how sad, this is how my daughter's brain feels quite often. Would explain a few things. She technically has a learning disability, but they haven't been able to figure out why. And some days she is so spacey it's worthless when the day before she gets it. Still a long way to go, but notable improvement from 3 months ago when we started all of this.

I'm going to leave the mercury idea at least for the next few months and see if we can get a handle on this. If no improvement by summer time, then I'll look at it again.

I was wondering if those who have improved have actually felt the fog lift? Also anyone have a hair test and/or score high on aluminum? What is kind of freaky, is I have described some of her ways as Alzheimer-like. And there is a strong link to aluminum and Alzheimer's, plus it runs in our family. Not to mention my aluminum was on the high side too.

Thanks,

Kari

Re: brain fog

Kari-my understanding of brain fog is that it results due to excessive toxins, not necessarily metals, in fact, probably metabolic and digestive toxins, circulating throughout the body. This would indicate blocked pathways of elimination- kidneys, colon and liver, and a poorly functioning digestive system.> > I've heard the term "brain fog" used a lot on this list and I > wanted to ask,> > what is your definition of bf? And are you talking about memory > loss too?> > > > I ask because my memory is becoming atrocious. It's so bad, I get> > embarassed sometimes. And I hate going to social functions because > I can> > never remember names. Can Candida affect your memory?> > > > I also recently found out I have high levels of mercury in my > system and> > thought I read somewhere that mercury toxicity can affect memory. > Any> > thoughts?> > > > Thanks> > > >

[Guest guest]

I didn't feel the fog lift. It was gradual. I'd notice myself being

able to think clearer.

I was however able to think much clearer and see things differently

on the second day of the liver flushes. More so early on when I

started to do them, as compared to now. I also had very noticable

changes in my eyesight, and smell on the second day of flushing as

well.

I don't know if you're there yet or not Kari, but you might want to

consider posting your daughters situation in the Ask s forum on

curezone, and maybe consult with him over the phone too. His

knowledge will amaze you.

Rick

> This actually makes a lot of sense. The other day I was seeing

this doctor who has been treating candida patients for years, and he

explained that the body/brain is in the same shape that one is in

when they are hung over. Can't recall the specifics as to why. Now

that I could relate too! My candida is pretty mild, and I don't have

the brain fog BUT due to the candida mostly if I drink I have it

horribly the next day. Took me way to long to figure out this

wasn't a normal hang over. But how sad, this is how my daughter's

brain feels quite often. Would explain a few things. She

technically has a learning disability, but they haven't been able to

figure out why. And some days she is so spacey it's worthless when

the day before she gets it. Still a long way to go, but notable

improvement from 3 months ago when we started all of this.

> I'm going to leave the mercury idea at least for the next few

months and see if we can get a handle on this. If no improvement by

summer time, then I'll look at it again.

> I was wondering if those who have improved have actually felt the

fog lift? Also anyone have a hair test and/or score high on

aluminum? What is kind of freaky, is I have described some of her

ways as Alzheimer-like. And there is a strong link to aluminum and

Alzheimer's, plus it runs in our family. Not to mention my aluminum

was on the high side too.

> Thanks,

> Kari

>

[Guest guest]

Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 11:56:28 -0800

From: " Kari Trautman " <karitrautman@...>

I was wondering if those who have improved have actually felt the fog lift?

Hi Kari,

Yes, you might say I felt the fog lift. The brain fog was the main

symptom of my candidiasis -- it was ruining my life because I couldn't

think, couldn't make decisions, couldn't motivate myself to do things that

needed doing. I started on the candida diet, took natural antifungals and

after a healing crisis that multiplied the brain fog till I was practically

comatose, I felt better. But the upshot of it was that the feeling better

wasn't a constant -- sometimes I felt great, sometimes not. The antifungals

and diet didn't make the yeast go totally away, just beat it down a bit.

I decided to do a liver flush after hearing so much on here how it

helped folks. After my first one about a month ago, I felt good and have

continued to do so. I'm typing this now as I'm on my second one -- I took

the olive oil/orange juice, lemon juice mixture last night and today I'm not

going to stray far from the bathroom!! I'm now beginning to think -- as

others on this list are -- that the antifungals and diet are not enough, as

long as the liver remains congested. The liver is such a marvelous organ,

filtering out the toxins of our less-than healthful lifestyles. It makes

sense that it needs to be in tiptop condition for us to get better.

Here's hoping I continue to improve. And I hope you find the answers

for your poor little girl. It's bad enough when adults have to deal with

this, but it's heartbreaking when it's a child. All my best to you and her.

Sherry (from Oregon)

[Guest guest]

Yes. s himself was sick as a child and that's what started him

out as a healer.

> Thanks Sherry. I'm trying to shoot for doing a liver cleanse myself

in 3 weeks. I have the book, really need to make time to read it.

Doubt if I would seriously consider cleansing my daughter, but it does

make me wonder. Somehow I'm thinking when it's a kid like this there

wouldn't be that much of an issue. However if she has had it for over

6-7 years (she's 8) then maybe it would be enough time to build up damage.

> Anyone ever heard/read of someone doing it on a child?

> Kari

>

> Re: Re: brain fog

>

>

>

> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 11:56:28 -0800

> From: " Kari Trautman " <karitrautman@e...>

>

> I was wondering if those who have improved have actually felt the

fog lift?

>

>

> Hi Kari,

>

> Yes, you might say I felt the fog lift. The brain fog was the

main

> symptom of my candidiasis -- it was ruining my life because I couldn't

> think, couldn't make decisions, couldn't motivate myself to do

things that

> needed doing. I started on the candida diet, took natural

antifungals and

> after a healing crisis that multiplied the brain fog till I was

practically

> comatose, I felt better. But the upshot of it was that the

feeling better

> wasn't a constant -- sometimes I felt great, sometimes not. The

antifungals

> and diet didn't make the yeast go totally away, just beat it down

a bit.

> I decided to do a liver flush after hearing so much on here how it

> helped folks. After my first one about a month ago, I felt good

and have

> continued to do so. I'm typing this now as I'm on my second one

-- I took

> the olive oil/orange juice, lemon juice mixture last night and

today I'm not

> going to stray far from the bathroom!! I'm now beginning to think

-- as

> others on this list are -- that the antifungals and diet are not

enough, as

> long as the liver remains congested. The liver is such a

marvelous organ,

> filtering out the toxins of our less-than healthful lifestyles. It

makes

> sense that it needs to be in tiptop condition for us to get better.

> Here's hoping I continue to improve. And I hope you find the

answers

> for your poor little girl. It's bad enough when adults have to

deal with

> this, but it's heartbreaking when it's a child. All my best to

you and her.

>

> Sherry (from Oregon)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You cut the dosage in half for a child. But I would check with

s just to be sure.

> Thanks Sherry. I'm trying to shoot for doing a liver cleanse

myself in 3 weeks. I have the book, really need to make time to read

it. Doubt if I would seriously consider cleansing my daughter, but

it does make me wonder. Somehow I'm thinking when it's a kid like

this there wouldn't be that much of an issue. However if she has had

it for over 6-7 years (she's 8) then maybe it would be enough time to

build up damage.

> Anyone ever heard/read of someone doing it on a child?

> Kari

>

>

[Guest guest]

I hear you all talking about brain fog and some other ailments, I also have

hypothyroidism, found out about two years ago when my fingers kept getting numb

especially at night when I was sleeping and just a piece of my big toe, not

the whole thing mind you, anyway I consider myself lucky to a certain extent

because the only real problem I have now is the weight gain, and even that I'm

told isn't bad, I was told most people with this issue gain much more weight

well I think 30 is more than enough, and like another lady i read about I'm in

the gym for at least an hour and a half each I burn 500-600 doing cardio alone

and then I lift weight and still one week I may lose 4-5 pounds just to see

them again the following week, they just won't go away permanently, however from

some research I have been doing I've read that we should definitely stay away

from all soy products which I had been taking i.e.: soy milk and a soy based

protein shake, I read we should juice radish, carrot, and celery, that's if

you juice, but radishes should be added to your diet and coconut oil, or olive

oil. A product called Tahitian Noni Juice is excellent please check out the web

site and read for yourself it has been used in the Tahitian Islands for over

2000 years for many different ailments www.tahitiannoni.com/neshelle . Please

keep me posted on new products, and I'll do the same Neshelle

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I think it took a while, but I believe I’m

about as normal as I was before treatment.

–dz-

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Brain Fog

Did most of you not get

your mind back to normal after treatments? Does this brain fog continue

because of the treatments? Lynne

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If you can't afford the IV glutathione, maybe you would want to try

NAC (N-acytyl cystene). My doctor is recommending that for me to help

my body increase it's own stores of glutathione.

Laureen

><</Rodney wrote: I get really foggy, to the point of being

>an idiot, every month. Anyone else's fog act like that?

>> " >rod@...> wrote: I get really foggy, to the point of

>being an idiot, every month. Anyone else's fog act like that?

>>

>

>,

>I don't know if you have access to a doc who does this, but my doc

>is DO/Alt so he treats w/all kinds of meds. Awhile back, he

>suggested Glutathione IV but it is out-of-pocket so I put it off,

>then I put it iff since he was treating all kinds of symptoms for

>all kinds of things, all that goes along w/ Late Stage Lyme,

>Mycoplasma, etc. I asked him again, I had read about a Dr. Horowitz

>who was having great luck w/it, he was familiar w/Dr. H & said he

>would always recommend it, BUT it may do wonders or it may do

>nothing & it is costly, but I decided to go for it.

>

>Anyway, I am abx & other stuff too, but since the glutathione, my

>brain fog is gone, my stamina/endurance is better too! Saw him

>yesterday & he said it is definitely a result of the IV, there is a

>neurologist in Florida having great success w/glutathione. Just

>another avenue it you can find someone who does it & can swing it

>financially. I know there have been postings about it here before.

>It is kind of like a Catch 22 for me, if I feel better, I can work

>more ( I do some work @ home when I can) & if I can work more I can

>pay for the IV!! Anyway, wanted to share that...

>

>Jeannie

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/Rodney wrote:

> I know this is a big thing for us, but is it a constant for you

> or does it come n go? I get really foggy, to the point of being an

> idiot, every month ( its a girl thing LOL) I cant follow thoughts

> through, cant make up my mind and basically flake out, and don't even

> think about having me try and explain anything. The rest of the time

> I am relatively fine. Anyone else's fog act like that?

Don't know anbout being a girl thing but I feel like that much of the

time. The more I *have* to concentrate the more difficult it becomes to the

point where I can't listen to someone and work at the same time....

Feel real guilty sometimes like if I'm watching the news and my wife comes

in to tell me about her day at work... I have to ask her to wait!! It's

lucky she knows me!!

The worst thing is having an intellectual conversation and then sudden

losing that *one* simple word!!

As for being a period thing, I'm not sure. Some days are worse than others

regardless of how well I'm feeling....

Best wishes,

Kezzi. . .

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Northern Light wrote:

>

> As for being a period thing, I'm not sure. Some days are

> worse than others regardless of how well I'm feeling....

That, of course, should read 'periodic'... Sorry girls

Kezzi. . .