Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 In a message dated 9/3/01 3:32:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rosacea-support writes: << For example, he recommends halibut, while I had a huge reaction to it; the same with beans, seafood, spinach, seeds and nuts, bread, bananas, etc, etc., that should be avoided by full-fledge rosaceans. You may suggest to find a middle ground, but there is not much left to serve as an overlap for both the blood type and rosacea benefit. In addition, even what is allowed for rosacea, may not be good for some of us due to idiosyncrasies. >> I thought fish, veggies, and the above foods were supposed to be good for rosaceans. I have been trying to eat a natural and healthly diet which includes the above listed foods.... now I hear they are bad too!! Please advise. Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 Elena, When it comes to rosacea and food, some of us do have reactions to certain foods while others have none whatsoever. For those of us who do notice a reaction to food, it's not a matter of eating what's healthy and what's not healthy. There are some foods which are healthy like peanuts, avocados, tuna, or tomatoes which make me flare directly. There are some foods that aren't too healthy, like french fries, which cause me no rosacea problems. Again, for some rosaceans and not all, some foods which cause the body to produce more histamine and can cause flares. I'm sure you've seen the list at the NRS. For myself, I can eat some of the foods on that list like yogurt and bananas with no problem. These food triggers are very individual and it takes time to test which ones are the culprit for you. Some people may have allergies to certain foods which can exacerbate the whole condition. I think the main ones are peanuts, eggs, milk, and wheat. I don't have this problem myself, and I believe that 1% of adults in the US have this problem. I don't know if there are definite tests which can say that an individual is allergic to a specific food. If you think something is bothering you, it is best to avoid it. Take care, and I hope you find a diet that works for you and doesn't exacerbate your rosacea. Matija > In a message dated 9/3/01 3:32:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > rosacea-support@y... writes: > > << For example, he recommends halibut, while I had a huge reaction to it; > the same with beans, seafood, spinach, seeds and nuts, bread, bananas, etc, > etc., that should be avoided by full-fledge rosaceans. You may suggest to > find a middle ground, but there is not much left to serve as an overlap for > both the blood type and rosacea benefit. In addition, even what is allowed > for rosacea, may not be good for some of us due to idiosyncrasies. >> > > I thought fish, veggies, and the above foods were supposed to be good for > rosaceans. I have been trying to eat a natural and healthly diet which > includes the above listed foods.... now I hear they are bad too!! Please > advise. > Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 I think that anyone with cea who believes that food may be one of their big triggers should see an allergists and get tested. It is a very easy procedure and why spend time speculating about it. My allergist gave me a blood test and within a week, I got all the results of my allergins. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 I think that anyone with cea who believes that food may be one of their big triggers should see an allergists and get tested. It is a very easy procedure and why spend time speculating about it. My allergist gave me a blood test and within a week, I got all the results of my allergins. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 I think that anyone with cea who believes that food may be one of their big triggers should see an allergists and get tested. It is a very easy procedure and why spend time speculating about it. My allergist gave me a blood test and within a week, I got all the results of my allergins. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 Food allergies can cause problems but also poor food balance. That is to say that an abundance of one type of ingredient may cause an imbalance in the body. A nutritionist may be able to assist in this department but it requires taking the time to keep a food diary. I am not a nutritionist nor do I know any. I just think it is common sense. http://forums.about.com/rosacea_support/messages/ --- ruizdelvizo@... wrote: > Elena, > > When it comes to rosacea and food, some of us do > have reactions to > certain foods while others have none whatsoever. For > those of us who > do notice a reaction to food, it's not a matter of > eating what's > healthy and what's not healthy. There are some > foods which are > healthy like peanuts, avocados, tuna, or tomatoes > which make me flare > directly. There are some foods that aren't too > healthy, like french > fries, which cause me no rosacea problems. > > Again, for some rosaceans and not all, some foods > which cause the > body to produce more histamine and can cause flares. > I'm sure you've > seen the list at the NRS. For myself, I can eat some > of the foods on > that list like yogurt and bananas with no problem. > These food > triggers are very individual and it takes time to > test which ones are > the culprit for you. > > Some people may have allergies to certain foods > which can exacerbate > the whole condition. I think the main ones are > peanuts, eggs, milk, > and wheat. I don't have this problem myself, and I > believe that 1% of adults in the US have this > problem. I don't know if there are definite tests > which can say that an individual is allergic to a > specific food. If you think > something is bothering you, it is best to avoid it. > > Take care, and I hope you find a diet that works for > you and doesn't > exacerbate your rosacea. > > Matija > > > > > In a message dated 9/3/01 3:32:57 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > > rosacea-support@y... writes: > > > > << For example, he recommends halibut, while I had > a huge reaction > to it; > > the same with beans, seafood, spinach, seeds and > nuts, bread, > bananas, etc, > > etc., that should be avoided by full-fledge > rosaceans. You may > suggest to > > find a middle ground, but there is not much left > to serve as an > overlap for > > both the blood type and rosacea benefit. In > addition, even what > is allowed > > for rosacea, may not be good for some of us due > to > idiosyncrasies. >> > > > > I thought fish, veggies, and the above foods were > supposed to be > good for > > rosaceans. I have been trying to eat a natural > and healthly diet > which > > includes the above listed foods.... now I hear > they are bad too!! > Please > > advise. > > Elena > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > published book. > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 Food allergies can cause problems but also poor food balance. That is to say that an abundance of one type of ingredient may cause an imbalance in the body. A nutritionist may be able to assist in this department but it requires taking the time to keep a food diary. I am not a nutritionist nor do I know any. I just think it is common sense. http://forums.about.com/rosacea_support/messages/ --- ruizdelvizo@... wrote: > Elena, > > When it comes to rosacea and food, some of us do > have reactions to > certain foods while others have none whatsoever. For > those of us who > do notice a reaction to food, it's not a matter of > eating what's > healthy and what's not healthy. There are some > foods which are > healthy like peanuts, avocados, tuna, or tomatoes > which make me flare > directly. There are some foods that aren't too > healthy, like french > fries, which cause me no rosacea problems. > > Again, for some rosaceans and not all, some foods > which cause the > body to produce more histamine and can cause flares. > I'm sure you've > seen the list at the NRS. For myself, I can eat some > of the foods on > that list like yogurt and bananas with no problem. > These food > triggers are very individual and it takes time to > test which ones are > the culprit for you. > > Some people may have allergies to certain foods > which can exacerbate > the whole condition. I think the main ones are > peanuts, eggs, milk, > and wheat. I don't have this problem myself, and I > believe that 1% of adults in the US have this > problem. I don't know if there are definite tests > which can say that an individual is allergic to a > specific food. If you think > something is bothering you, it is best to avoid it. > > Take care, and I hope you find a diet that works for > you and doesn't > exacerbate your rosacea. > > Matija > > > > > In a message dated 9/3/01 3:32:57 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > > rosacea-support@y... writes: > > > > << For example, he recommends halibut, while I had > a huge reaction > to it; > > the same with beans, seafood, spinach, seeds and > nuts, bread, > bananas, etc, > > etc., that should be avoided by full-fledge > rosaceans. You may > suggest to > > find a middle ground, but there is not much left > to serve as an > overlap for > > both the blood type and rosacea benefit. In > addition, even what > is allowed > > for rosacea, may not be good for some of us due > to > idiosyncrasies. >> > > > > I thought fish, veggies, and the above foods were > supposed to be > good for > > rosaceans. I have been trying to eat a natural > and healthly diet > which > > includes the above listed foods.... now I hear > they are bad too!! > Please > > advise. > > Elena > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > published book. > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 Food allergies can cause problems but also poor food balance. That is to say that an abundance of one type of ingredient may cause an imbalance in the body. A nutritionist may be able to assist in this department but it requires taking the time to keep a food diary. I am not a nutritionist nor do I know any. I just think it is common sense. http://forums.about.com/rosacea_support/messages/ --- ruizdelvizo@... wrote: > Elena, > > When it comes to rosacea and food, some of us do > have reactions to > certain foods while others have none whatsoever. For > those of us who > do notice a reaction to food, it's not a matter of > eating what's > healthy and what's not healthy. There are some > foods which are > healthy like peanuts, avocados, tuna, or tomatoes > which make me flare > directly. There are some foods that aren't too > healthy, like french > fries, which cause me no rosacea problems. > > Again, for some rosaceans and not all, some foods > which cause the > body to produce more histamine and can cause flares. > I'm sure you've > seen the list at the NRS. For myself, I can eat some > of the foods on > that list like yogurt and bananas with no problem. > These food > triggers are very individual and it takes time to > test which ones are > the culprit for you. > > Some people may have allergies to certain foods > which can exacerbate > the whole condition. I think the main ones are > peanuts, eggs, milk, > and wheat. I don't have this problem myself, and I > believe that 1% of adults in the US have this > problem. I don't know if there are definite tests > which can say that an individual is allergic to a > specific food. If you think > something is bothering you, it is best to avoid it. > > Take care, and I hope you find a diet that works for > you and doesn't > exacerbate your rosacea. > > Matija > > > > > In a message dated 9/3/01 3:32:57 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > > rosacea-support@y... writes: > > > > << For example, he recommends halibut, while I had > a huge reaction > to it; > > the same with beans, seafood, spinach, seeds and > nuts, bread, > bananas, etc, > > etc., that should be avoided by full-fledge > rosaceans. You may > suggest to > > find a middle ground, but there is not much left > to serve as an > overlap for > > both the blood type and rosacea benefit. In > addition, even what > is allowed > > for rosacea, may not be good for some of us due > to > idiosyncrasies. >> > > > > I thought fish, veggies, and the above foods were > supposed to be > good for > > rosaceans. I have been trying to eat a natural > and healthly diet > which > > includes the above listed foods.... now I hear > they are bad too!! > Please > > advise. > > Elena > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > published book. > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 I have had both a skin test and a blood test for food allergies, and they weren't conclusive. The skin test showed that I had a very slight allergy to tuna, and the blood test showed I was allergic to wheat, milk, eggs, peanuts and soy. Tuna and peanuts do cause my rosacea to flare more. Wheat, milk and eggs have no effect on it whatsoever. I understand that blood and skin testing for food allergies can be inconclusive, even under the best circumstances. Keeping a food diary may be necessary if you suspect you have food allergies. I attached a link to food allergy symptoms, detection and treatment from the National Institutes of Health. http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/food.htm As well, here is a link to the subject of food allergies from the Center for Science in the Public Interest: http://www.cspinet.org/nah/04_01/ Take care, Matija > I think that anyone with cea who believes that > food may be one of their big triggers should see an > allergists and get tested. It is a very easy > procedure and why spend time speculating about it. > > My allergist gave me a blood test and within a week, I > got all the results of my allergins. > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 I have had both a skin test and a blood test for food allergies, and they weren't conclusive. The skin test showed that I had a very slight allergy to tuna, and the blood test showed I was allergic to wheat, milk, eggs, peanuts and soy. Tuna and peanuts do cause my rosacea to flare more. Wheat, milk and eggs have no effect on it whatsoever. I understand that blood and skin testing for food allergies can be inconclusive, even under the best circumstances. Keeping a food diary may be necessary if you suspect you have food allergies. I attached a link to food allergy symptoms, detection and treatment from the National Institutes of Health. http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/food.htm As well, here is a link to the subject of food allergies from the Center for Science in the Public Interest: http://www.cspinet.org/nah/04_01/ Take care, Matija > I think that anyone with cea who believes that > food may be one of their big triggers should see an > allergists and get tested. It is a very easy > procedure and why spend time speculating about it. > > My allergist gave me a blood test and within a week, I > got all the results of my allergins. > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 I have had both a skin test and a blood test for food allergies, and they weren't conclusive. The skin test showed that I had a very slight allergy to tuna, and the blood test showed I was allergic to wheat, milk, eggs, peanuts and soy. Tuna and peanuts do cause my rosacea to flare more. Wheat, milk and eggs have no effect on it whatsoever. I understand that blood and skin testing for food allergies can be inconclusive, even under the best circumstances. Keeping a food diary may be necessary if you suspect you have food allergies. I attached a link to food allergy symptoms, detection and treatment from the National Institutes of Health. http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/food.htm As well, here is a link to the subject of food allergies from the Center for Science in the Public Interest: http://www.cspinet.org/nah/04_01/ Take care, Matija > I think that anyone with cea who believes that > food may be one of their big triggers should see an > allergists and get tested. It is a very easy > procedure and why spend time speculating about it. > > My allergist gave me a blood test and within a week, I > got all the results of my allergins. > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 I agree that it's good to have a varied diet for good health, which will hopefully mean fewer rosacea flares. However, as long as I avoid those foods which cause my rosacea to flare (like avocados, peanuts and tomatoes, among others) my skin looks ok even if I eat no veggies/fruits or the same non-reactive foods over and over again and probably cause an imbalance. I think it's a bit of a fallacy to assume that a healthy diet will stop rosacea in its tracks or lack of a healthy diet will cause rosacea. A healthy diet will probably strengthen your body and give you more energy. You'll be less tired and may fewer stress-related flares. However, my experience is that I still have rosacea. Some people on this list never flare from food at all. I happen to be one of the ones that does. If I eat a healthy diet and then eat a food like avocado or tomatoes, my skin will still flare, but I'll stil be healthy. Avocados and tomatoes are great veggies for my overall health. I have been through periods where all I ate was potatoes and beef for months because I could see that some foods I was eating were causing my skin to explode, but had no idea even where to start figuring it out. My skin looked great when I did that - no flares, pustules or papules, but I knew it wasn't healthy for my overall system. I think rosacea is a very complex disease which, unfortunately may progress even with one's best intentions to avoid that. Take care, Matija > > > In a message dated 9/3/01 3:32:57 AM Eastern > > Daylight Time, > > > rosacea-support@y... writes: > > > > > > << For example, he recommends halibut, while I had > > a huge reaction > > to it; > > > the same with beans, seafood, spinach, seeds and > > nuts, bread, > > bananas, etc, > > > etc., that should be avoided by full-fledge > > rosaceans. You may > > suggest to > > > find a middle ground, but there is not much left > > to serve as an > > overlap for > > > both the blood type and rosacea benefit. In > > addition, even what > > is allowed > > > for rosacea, may not be good for some of us due > > to > > idiosyncrasies. >> > > > > > > I thought fish, veggies, and the above foods were > > supposed to be > > good for > > > rosaceans. I have been trying to eat a natural > > and healthly diet > > which > > > includes the above listed foods.... now I hear > > they are bad too!! > > Please > > > advise. > > > Elena > > > > > > > > -- > > Please read the list highlights before posting to > > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > > published book. > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 I agree that it's good to have a varied diet for good health, which will hopefully mean fewer rosacea flares. However, as long as I avoid those foods which cause my rosacea to flare (like avocados, peanuts and tomatoes, among others) my skin looks ok even if I eat no veggies/fruits or the same non-reactive foods over and over again and probably cause an imbalance. I think it's a bit of a fallacy to assume that a healthy diet will stop rosacea in its tracks or lack of a healthy diet will cause rosacea. A healthy diet will probably strengthen your body and give you more energy. You'll be less tired and may fewer stress-related flares. However, my experience is that I still have rosacea. Some people on this list never flare from food at all. I happen to be one of the ones that does. If I eat a healthy diet and then eat a food like avocado or tomatoes, my skin will still flare, but I'll stil be healthy. Avocados and tomatoes are great veggies for my overall health. I have been through periods where all I ate was potatoes and beef for months because I could see that some foods I was eating were causing my skin to explode, but had no idea even where to start figuring it out. My skin looked great when I did that - no flares, pustules or papules, but I knew it wasn't healthy for my overall system. I think rosacea is a very complex disease which, unfortunately may progress even with one's best intentions to avoid that. Take care, Matija > > > In a message dated 9/3/01 3:32:57 AM Eastern > > Daylight Time, > > > rosacea-support@y... writes: > > > > > > << For example, he recommends halibut, while I had > > a huge reaction > > to it; > > > the same with beans, seafood, spinach, seeds and > > nuts, bread, > > bananas, etc, > > > etc., that should be avoided by full-fledge > > rosaceans. You may > > suggest to > > > find a middle ground, but there is not much left > > to serve as an > > overlap for > > > both the blood type and rosacea benefit. In > > addition, even what > > is allowed > > > for rosacea, may not be good for some of us due > > to > > idiosyncrasies. >> > > > > > > I thought fish, veggies, and the above foods were > > supposed to be > > good for > > > rosaceans. I have been trying to eat a natural > > and healthly diet > > which > > > includes the above listed foods.... now I hear > > they are bad too!! > > Please > > > advise. > > > Elena > > > > > > > > -- > > Please read the list highlights before posting to > > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > > published book. > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 I agree that it's good to have a varied diet for good health, which will hopefully mean fewer rosacea flares. However, as long as I avoid those foods which cause my rosacea to flare (like avocados, peanuts and tomatoes, among others) my skin looks ok even if I eat no veggies/fruits or the same non-reactive foods over and over again and probably cause an imbalance. I think it's a bit of a fallacy to assume that a healthy diet will stop rosacea in its tracks or lack of a healthy diet will cause rosacea. A healthy diet will probably strengthen your body and give you more energy. You'll be less tired and may fewer stress-related flares. However, my experience is that I still have rosacea. Some people on this list never flare from food at all. I happen to be one of the ones that does. If I eat a healthy diet and then eat a food like avocado or tomatoes, my skin will still flare, but I'll stil be healthy. Avocados and tomatoes are great veggies for my overall health. I have been through periods where all I ate was potatoes and beef for months because I could see that some foods I was eating were causing my skin to explode, but had no idea even where to start figuring it out. My skin looked great when I did that - no flares, pustules or papules, but I knew it wasn't healthy for my overall system. I think rosacea is a very complex disease which, unfortunately may progress even with one's best intentions to avoid that. Take care, Matija > > > In a message dated 9/3/01 3:32:57 AM Eastern > > Daylight Time, > > > rosacea-support@y... writes: > > > > > > << For example, he recommends halibut, while I had > > a huge reaction > > to it; > > > the same with beans, seafood, spinach, seeds and > > nuts, bread, > > bananas, etc, > > > etc., that should be avoided by full-fledge > > rosaceans. You may > > suggest to > > > find a middle ground, but there is not much left > > to serve as an > > overlap for > > > both the blood type and rosacea benefit. In > > addition, even what > > is allowed > > > for rosacea, may not be good for some of us due > > to > > idiosyncrasies. >> > > > > > > I thought fish, veggies, and the above foods were > > supposed to be > > good for > > > rosaceans. I have been trying to eat a natural > > and healthly diet > > which > > > includes the above listed foods.... now I hear > > they are bad too!! > > Please > > > advise. > > > Elena > > > > > > > > -- > > Please read the list highlights before posting to > > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > > published book. > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 I don't believe it is a fallacy to eat a " healthy diet. " You see a healthy diet is different things for different people. We have different needs, different stresses, different lifestyles and different biological and chemical deficiencies. That is why some people are diabetics, some people have a tendancy for high blood pressure etc. However, a good nutritionist will help you get your diet in check. It's like this with food. When you are first diagnosed with cea, almost everything irritates your skin. Once you get it under control, you can use a lot more products. The same thing goes for your diet intake. Certain foods that may be a problem now, may not be a problem later given other diet balancing effects. Or another example is that if you pour water into deydrated soil, the water will run off and not seep into the earth. But, if the earth is a little less dry, it will absorb it and be healthy for the plant. --- ruizdelvizo@... wrote: > I agree that it's good to have a varied diet for > good health, which > will hopefully mean fewer rosacea flares. However, > as long as I > avoid those foods which cause my rosacea to flare > (like avocados, > peanuts and tomatoes, among others) my skin looks ok > even if I eat no > veggies/fruits or the same non-reactive foods over > and over again and > probably cause an imbalance. > > I think it's a bit of a fallacy to assume that a > healthy diet will > stop rosacea in its tracks or lack of a healthy diet > will cause > rosacea. A healthy diet will probably strengthen > your body and give > you more energy. You'll be less tired and may fewer > stress-related > flares. However, my experience is that I still have > rosacea. Some > people on this list never flare from food at all. I > happen to be one > of the ones that does. If I eat a healthy diet and > then eat a food > like avocado or tomatoes, my skin will still flare, > but I'll stil be > healthy. Avocados and tomatoes are great veggies for > my overall > health. > > I have been through periods where all I ate was > potatoes and beef for > months because I could see that some foods I was > eating were causing > my skin to explode, but had no idea even where to > start figuring it > out. My skin looked great when I did that - no > flares, pustules or > papules, but I knew it wasn't healthy for my overall > system. > > I think rosacea is a very complex disease which, > unfortunately may > progress even with one's best intentions to avoid > that. > > Take care, > Matija > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/3/01 3:32:57 AM Eastern > > > Daylight Time, > > > > rosacea-support@y... writes: > > > > > > > > << For example, he recommends halibut, while I > had > > > a huge reaction > > > to it; > > > > the same with beans, seafood, spinach, seeds > and > > > nuts, bread, > > > bananas, etc, > > > > etc., that should be avoided by full-fledge > > > rosaceans. You may > > > suggest to > > > > find a middle ground, but there is not much > left > > > to serve as an > > > overlap for > > > > both the blood type and rosacea benefit. In > > > addition, even what > > > is allowed > > > > for rosacea, may not be good for some of us > due > > > to > > > idiosyncrasies. >> > > > > > > > > I thought fish, veggies, and the above foods > were > > > supposed to be > > > good for > > > > rosaceans. I have been trying to eat a > natural > > > and healthly diet > > > which > > > > includes the above listed foods.... now I hear > > > they are bad too!! > > > Please > > > > advise. > > > > Elena > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please read the list highlights before posting > to > > > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his > recently > > > published book. > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 I don't believe it is a fallacy to eat a " healthy diet. " You see a healthy diet is different things for different people. We have different needs, different stresses, different lifestyles and different biological and chemical deficiencies. That is why some people are diabetics, some people have a tendancy for high blood pressure etc. However, a good nutritionist will help you get your diet in check. It's like this with food. When you are first diagnosed with cea, almost everything irritates your skin. Once you get it under control, you can use a lot more products. The same thing goes for your diet intake. Certain foods that may be a problem now, may not be a problem later given other diet balancing effects. Or another example is that if you pour water into deydrated soil, the water will run off and not seep into the earth. But, if the earth is a little less dry, it will absorb it and be healthy for the plant. --- ruizdelvizo@... wrote: > I agree that it's good to have a varied diet for > good health, which > will hopefully mean fewer rosacea flares. However, > as long as I > avoid those foods which cause my rosacea to flare > (like avocados, > peanuts and tomatoes, among others) my skin looks ok > even if I eat no > veggies/fruits or the same non-reactive foods over > and over again and > probably cause an imbalance. > > I think it's a bit of a fallacy to assume that a > healthy diet will > stop rosacea in its tracks or lack of a healthy diet > will cause > rosacea. A healthy diet will probably strengthen > your body and give > you more energy. You'll be less tired and may fewer > stress-related > flares. However, my experience is that I still have > rosacea. Some > people on this list never flare from food at all. I > happen to be one > of the ones that does. If I eat a healthy diet and > then eat a food > like avocado or tomatoes, my skin will still flare, > but I'll stil be > healthy. Avocados and tomatoes are great veggies for > my overall > health. > > I have been through periods where all I ate was > potatoes and beef for > months because I could see that some foods I was > eating were causing > my skin to explode, but had no idea even where to > start figuring it > out. My skin looked great when I did that - no > flares, pustules or > papules, but I knew it wasn't healthy for my overall > system. > > I think rosacea is a very complex disease which, > unfortunately may > progress even with one's best intentions to avoid > that. > > Take care, > Matija > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/3/01 3:32:57 AM Eastern > > > Daylight Time, > > > > rosacea-support@y... writes: > > > > > > > > << For example, he recommends halibut, while I > had > > > a huge reaction > > > to it; > > > > the same with beans, seafood, spinach, seeds > and > > > nuts, bread, > > > bananas, etc, > > > > etc., that should be avoided by full-fledge > > > rosaceans. You may > > > suggest to > > > > find a middle ground, but there is not much > left > > > to serve as an > > > overlap for > > > > both the blood type and rosacea benefit. In > > > addition, even what > > > is allowed > > > > for rosacea, may not be good for some of us > due > > > to > > > idiosyncrasies. >> > > > > > > > > I thought fish, veggies, and the above foods > were > > > supposed to be > > > good for > > > > rosaceans. I have been trying to eat a > natural > > > and healthly diet > > > which > > > > includes the above listed foods.... now I hear > > > they are bad too!! > > > Please > > > > advise. > > > > Elena > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please read the list highlights before posting > to > > > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his > recently > > > published book. > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 I don't believe it is a fallacy to eat a " healthy diet. " You see a healthy diet is different things for different people. We have different needs, different stresses, different lifestyles and different biological and chemical deficiencies. That is why some people are diabetics, some people have a tendancy for high blood pressure etc. However, a good nutritionist will help you get your diet in check. It's like this with food. When you are first diagnosed with cea, almost everything irritates your skin. Once you get it under control, you can use a lot more products. The same thing goes for your diet intake. Certain foods that may be a problem now, may not be a problem later given other diet balancing effects. Or another example is that if you pour water into deydrated soil, the water will run off and not seep into the earth. But, if the earth is a little less dry, it will absorb it and be healthy for the plant. --- ruizdelvizo@... wrote: > I agree that it's good to have a varied diet for > good health, which > will hopefully mean fewer rosacea flares. However, > as long as I > avoid those foods which cause my rosacea to flare > (like avocados, > peanuts and tomatoes, among others) my skin looks ok > even if I eat no > veggies/fruits or the same non-reactive foods over > and over again and > probably cause an imbalance. > > I think it's a bit of a fallacy to assume that a > healthy diet will > stop rosacea in its tracks or lack of a healthy diet > will cause > rosacea. A healthy diet will probably strengthen > your body and give > you more energy. You'll be less tired and may fewer > stress-related > flares. However, my experience is that I still have > rosacea. Some > people on this list never flare from food at all. I > happen to be one > of the ones that does. If I eat a healthy diet and > then eat a food > like avocado or tomatoes, my skin will still flare, > but I'll stil be > healthy. Avocados and tomatoes are great veggies for > my overall > health. > > I have been through periods where all I ate was > potatoes and beef for > months because I could see that some foods I was > eating were causing > my skin to explode, but had no idea even where to > start figuring it > out. My skin looked great when I did that - no > flares, pustules or > papules, but I knew it wasn't healthy for my overall > system. > > I think rosacea is a very complex disease which, > unfortunately may > progress even with one's best intentions to avoid > that. > > Take care, > Matija > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/3/01 3:32:57 AM Eastern > > > Daylight Time, > > > > rosacea-support@y... writes: > > > > > > > > << For example, he recommends halibut, while I > had > > > a huge reaction > > > to it; > > > > the same with beans, seafood, spinach, seeds > and > > > nuts, bread, > > > bananas, etc, > > > > etc., that should be avoided by full-fledge > > > rosaceans. You may > > > suggest to > > > > find a middle ground, but there is not much > left > > > to serve as an > > > overlap for > > > > both the blood type and rosacea benefit. In > > > addition, even what > > > is allowed > > > > for rosacea, may not be good for some of us > due > > > to > > > idiosyncrasies. >> > > > > > > > > I thought fish, veggies, and the above foods > were > > > supposed to be > > > good for > > > > rosaceans. I have been trying to eat a > natural > > > and healthly diet > > > which > > > > includes the above listed foods.... now I hear > > > they are bad too!! > > > Please > > > > advise. > > > > Elena > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please read the list highlights before posting > to > > > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his > recently > > > published book. > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 Hi, I was approving the messages for this group and approved the one below. However, it did not appear like the rest of the approved messages on the site. I'm glad that Robin responded to my personal email box too so I could copy and paste her response. (Sorry this happened, Robin.) Please read her message below. Take care, Matija Subject: Re: Re: Foods we eat To: ruizdelvizo@..., rosacea-support I don't believe it is a fallacy to eat a " healthy diet. " You see a healthy diet is different things for different people. We have different needs, different stresses, different lifestyles and different biological and chemical deficiencies. That is why some people are diabetics, some people have a tendancy for high blood pressure etc. However, a good nutritionist will help you get your diet in check. It's like this with food. When you are first diagnosed with cea, almost everything irritates your skin. Once you get it under control, you can use a lot more products. The same thing goes for your diet intake. Certain foods that may be a problem now, may not be a problem later given other diet balancing effects. Or another example is that if you pour water into deydrated soil, the water will run off and not seep into the earth. But, if the earth is a little less dry, it will absorb it and be healthy for the plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 Hi, I was approving the messages for this group and approved the one below. However, it did not appear like the rest of the approved messages on the site. I'm glad that Robin responded to my personal email box too so I could copy and paste her response. (Sorry this happened, Robin.) Please read her message below. Take care, Matija Subject: Re: Re: Foods we eat To: ruizdelvizo@..., rosacea-support I don't believe it is a fallacy to eat a " healthy diet. " You see a healthy diet is different things for different people. We have different needs, different stresses, different lifestyles and different biological and chemical deficiencies. That is why some people are diabetics, some people have a tendancy for high blood pressure etc. However, a good nutritionist will help you get your diet in check. It's like this with food. When you are first diagnosed with cea, almost everything irritates your skin. Once you get it under control, you can use a lot more products. The same thing goes for your diet intake. Certain foods that may be a problem now, may not be a problem later given other diet balancing effects. Or another example is that if you pour water into deydrated soil, the water will run off and not seep into the earth. But, if the earth is a little less dry, it will absorb it and be healthy for the plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 Hi, I was approving the messages for this group and approved the one below. However, it did not appear like the rest of the approved messages on the site. I'm glad that Robin responded to my personal email box too so I could copy and paste her response. (Sorry this happened, Robin.) Please read her message below. Take care, Matija Subject: Re: Re: Foods we eat To: ruizdelvizo@..., rosacea-support I don't believe it is a fallacy to eat a " healthy diet. " You see a healthy diet is different things for different people. We have different needs, different stresses, different lifestyles and different biological and chemical deficiencies. That is why some people are diabetics, some people have a tendancy for high blood pressure etc. However, a good nutritionist will help you get your diet in check. It's like this with food. When you are first diagnosed with cea, almost everything irritates your skin. Once you get it under control, you can use a lot more products. The same thing goes for your diet intake. Certain foods that may be a problem now, may not be a problem later given other diet balancing effects. Or another example is that if you pour water into deydrated soil, the water will run off and not seep into the earth. But, if the earth is a little less dry, it will absorb it and be healthy for the plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 Thank you all for your input on " foods we eat " . I think I will opt for a blood test as a start. Thanks all, Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 I agree with you, Robin, that eating a healthy diet is great for overall health and well being. I guess I'm coming from a point where my diet was healthy when I started to develop rosacea in my teens, and certain healthy foods seemed to make it worse. When I cut out the foods that seemed to make me flare, I did notice that servings of bad foods like french fries, chicken tenders, ice cream, caramels, etc., didn't cause flares for me at all. That's all I was saying. It is quite an anomaly. I understand what you're saying about using gentler products on the skin to decrease rosacea inflammation. Then other gentle products that you'd like to use on your skin, but couldn't previously, don't cause problems. That's been the case with me, and countless others on this list. I've found, however, that that principle does reach a point with me where there are some items like beta hydroxy acids (bhas), chamomile oil and mineral oil that I can never use because they cause horrible flares no matter if my skin is inflammation-free. I haven't seen a case on the list (at least I don't remember) where you can use that principle towards food consumption. If someone has a flare from a certain food, the usual treatment is avoidance. The only cases where I've heard that reverse itself is through treatment by photoderm, and it hasn't been consistent there either. If you have been able to cut out your food flares through the use of balancing your food intake, please let us specifically how you did it. I was wondering what specific foods you couldn't eat, and then what sort of diet you adopted, and how soon thereafter you were able to eat the trigger foods and in what quantity. I'd love to be able to eat tomatoes and avocados again. If you have a method, please share it with us. It's been so long since I've been able to eat guacamole! Thank you, Matija > > > > > In a message dated 9/3/01 3:32:57 AM Eastern > > > > Daylight Time, > > > > > rosacea-support@y... writes: > > > > > > > > > > << For example, he recommends halibut, while I > > had > > > > a huge reaction > > > > to it; > > > > > the same with beans, seafood, spinach, seeds > > and > > > > nuts, bread, > > > > bananas, etc, > > > > > etc., that should be avoided by full-fledge > > > > rosaceans. You may > > > > suggest to > > > > > find a middle ground, but there is not much > > left > > > > to serve as an > > > > overlap for > > > > > both the blood type and rosacea benefit. In > > > > addition, even what > > > > is allowed > > > > > for rosacea, may not be good for some of us > > due > > > > to > > > > idiosyncrasies. >> > > > > > > > > > > I thought fish, veggies, and the above foods > > were > > > > supposed to be > > > > good for > > > > > rosaceans. I have been trying to eat a > > natural > > > > and healthly diet > > > > which > > > > > includes the above listed foods.... now I hear > > > > they are bad too!! > > > > Please > > > > > advise. > > > > > Elena > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Please read the list highlights before posting > > to > > > > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > > > > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his > > recently > > > > published book. > > > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 I haven't developed a method particularly. I just modified my diet to add suppliments to it and increased my water intake. When I had some red wine the other day, I drank it slow and I had very little flushing. So... I guess I can't give you advice on that, but I can tell you a story. A few years ago, I went through a very painful breakup. It was devastating to me and I became very sad and very nervous. Right before the break up I was dieting heavily as well. It got to the point that the only food I could take in was fruits and vegetables and pasta. Everything else made me nauseous. I pretty much went anorexic unintentionally because I could take in other foods. My weight dropped to 120 which is very very slim for me. My friends told me I looked horrible. I got walking pnemonia and didn't know it. I was sick for a very long time. Finally, I initated Accupuncture for something entirely unrelated. I did mention in my sessions that I had frequent nausea. Within a few months, I was able to eat normal food again, AND eat food that I couldn't previously eat. (Red meat was always a little heavy.) Now, the only time I feel this way is if I have a large heavy meal shortly before bedtime, or something very greasy. I believe this is because something was out of synch in my body and it was resynched with the Accupuncture. I am also a lot healthier because I am able to eat a more varied diet.An after effect was that I have recently been able to shed extra weight (which I had gained back over the past five years or so) because I don't have to rely on nothing but carbo's to fill me up. --- ruizdelvizo@... wrote: > I agree with you, Robin, that eating a healthy diet > is great for > overall health and well being. I guess I'm coming > from a point where > my diet was healthy when I started to develop > rosacea in my teens, and > certain healthy foods seemed to make it worse. When > I cut out the > foods that seemed to make me flare, I did notice > that servings of bad > foods like french fries, chicken tenders, ice cream, > caramels, etc., > didn't cause flares for me at all. That's all I was > saying. It is > quite an anomaly. > > I understand what you're saying about using gentler > products on the > skin to decrease rosacea inflammation. Then other > gentle products > that you'd like to use on your skin, but couldn't > previously, don't > cause problems. That's been the case with me, and > countless others on > this list. I've found, however, that that principle > does reach a > point with me where there are some items like beta > hydroxy acids > (bhas), chamomile oil and mineral oil that I can > never use because > they cause horrible flares no matter if my skin is > inflammation-free. > > I haven't seen a case on the list (at least I don't > remember) where > you can use that principle towards food consumption. > If someone has a > flare from a certain food, the usual treatment is > avoidance. The only > cases where I've heard that reverse itself is > through treatment by > photoderm, and it hasn't been consistent there > either. > > If you have been able to cut out your food flares > through the use of > balancing your food intake, please let us > specifically how you did it. > I was wondering what specific foods you couldn't > eat, and then what > sort of diet you adopted, and how soon thereafter > you were able to eat > the trigger foods and in what quantity. I'd love to > be able to eat > tomatoes and avocados again. If you have a method, > please share it > with us. It's been so long since I've been able to > eat guacamole! > > Thank you, > Matija > > > > > > > > Elena, > > > > > > > > > > When it comes to rosacea and food, some of > us do > > > > > have reactions to > > > > > certain foods while others have none > whatsoever. > > > For > > > > > those of us who > > > > > do notice a reaction to food, it's not a > matter > > > of > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 I haven't developed a method particularly. I just modified my diet to add suppliments to it and increased my water intake. When I had some red wine the other day, I drank it slow and I had very little flushing. So... I guess I can't give you advice on that, but I can tell you a story. A few years ago, I went through a very painful breakup. It was devastating to me and I became very sad and very nervous. Right before the break up I was dieting heavily as well. It got to the point that the only food I could take in was fruits and vegetables and pasta. Everything else made me nauseous. I pretty much went anorexic unintentionally because I could take in other foods. My weight dropped to 120 which is very very slim for me. My friends told me I looked horrible. I got walking pnemonia and didn't know it. I was sick for a very long time. Finally, I initated Accupuncture for something entirely unrelated. I did mention in my sessions that I had frequent nausea. Within a few months, I was able to eat normal food again, AND eat food that I couldn't previously eat. (Red meat was always a little heavy.) Now, the only time I feel this way is if I have a large heavy meal shortly before bedtime, or something very greasy. I believe this is because something was out of synch in my body and it was resynched with the Accupuncture. I am also a lot healthier because I am able to eat a more varied diet.An after effect was that I have recently been able to shed extra weight (which I had gained back over the past five years or so) because I don't have to rely on nothing but carbo's to fill me up. --- ruizdelvizo@... wrote: > I agree with you, Robin, that eating a healthy diet > is great for > overall health and well being. I guess I'm coming > from a point where > my diet was healthy when I started to develop > rosacea in my teens, and > certain healthy foods seemed to make it worse. When > I cut out the > foods that seemed to make me flare, I did notice > that servings of bad > foods like french fries, chicken tenders, ice cream, > caramels, etc., > didn't cause flares for me at all. That's all I was > saying. It is > quite an anomaly. > > I understand what you're saying about using gentler > products on the > skin to decrease rosacea inflammation. Then other > gentle products > that you'd like to use on your skin, but couldn't > previously, don't > cause problems. That's been the case with me, and > countless others on > this list. I've found, however, that that principle > does reach a > point with me where there are some items like beta > hydroxy acids > (bhas), chamomile oil and mineral oil that I can > never use because > they cause horrible flares no matter if my skin is > inflammation-free. > > I haven't seen a case on the list (at least I don't > remember) where > you can use that principle towards food consumption. > If someone has a > flare from a certain food, the usual treatment is > avoidance. The only > cases where I've heard that reverse itself is > through treatment by > photoderm, and it hasn't been consistent there > either. > > If you have been able to cut out your food flares > through the use of > balancing your food intake, please let us > specifically how you did it. > I was wondering what specific foods you couldn't > eat, and then what > sort of diet you adopted, and how soon thereafter > you were able to eat > the trigger foods and in what quantity. I'd love to > be able to eat > tomatoes and avocados again. If you have a method, > please share it > with us. It's been so long since I've been able to > eat guacamole! > > Thank you, > Matija > > > > > > > > Elena, > > > > > > > > > > When it comes to rosacea and food, some of > us do > > > > > have reactions to > > > > > certain foods while others have none > whatsoever. > > > For > > > > > those of us who > > > > > do notice a reaction to food, it's not a > matter > > > of > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 I join Matija in this request to Robin. It is turture to be a slave to a few things you can eat, leave parties because you are starving and there is nothing you can touch and cook endlessly because there is little you can pick up or eat out. Please, Robin, tell us what was the diet, how long and what food you could bring back into your life as a result of. How different is this diet from Mark's? In advance thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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