Neurontin

April 11, 1999

connie and june and all...........must admit that while neurontin has

quieted my spasms somewhat an apparent 'side effect' has been increased

sleep and the more neurontin i take the more brain-dead i get during the

day although that may just be from getting older .

JACK 57

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At 03:53 AM 4/11/99 EDT, you wrote:

>From: MetaMom123@...

>

>June,

>

>Gosh, did the doctor actually say that he gave you Neurontin to make you

>sleep? I can't imagine that........Neurontin is an anti-convulsant. I can

>see it helping your RLS a little extra along with the Mirapex, but it never

>did anything to help me sleep at all, and I don't remember that as a side

>effect. How interesting!

>

>Connie

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April 11, 1999

connie and june and all...........must admit that while neurontin has

quieted my spasms somewhat an apparent 'side effect' has been increased

sleep and the more neurontin i take the more brain-dead i get during the

day although that may just be from getting older .

JACK 57

some snow tonight in western nys???

At 03:53 AM 4/11/99 EDT, you wrote:

>From: MetaMom123@...

>

>June,

>

>Gosh, did the doctor actually say that he gave you Neurontin to make you

>sleep? I can't imagine that........Neurontin is an anti-convulsant. I can

>see it helping your RLS a little extra along with the Mirapex, but it never

>did anything to help me sleep at all, and I don't remember that as a side

>effect. How interesting!

>

>Connie

>

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February 25, 2002

Hi JE,

I find Neurontin somewhat helpful in reducing facial pain. I have taken it

for about 2 years, usually at 1800mg daily, in divided doses. Lower doses

were ineffective, and I didn't find that taking higher doses provided any

more relief. I don't experience any side effects, but two of the most

common ones are drowsiness and dizziness, especially at first. They often

wear off with continued use.

Good luck,

Jen

>Is anyone out there taking neurontin? My derm is thinking of

>prescribing it for my facial pain. What's it like? Side effects?

>Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

February 25, 2002

Hi JE,

I find Neurontin somewhat helpful in reducing facial pain. I have taken it

for about 2 years, usually at 1800mg daily, in divided doses. Lower doses

were ineffective, and I didn't find that taking higher doses provided any

more relief. I don't experience any side effects, but two of the most

common ones are drowsiness and dizziness, especially at first. They often

wear off with continued use.

Good luck,

Jen

>Is anyone out there taking neurontin? My derm is thinking of

>prescribing it for my facial pain. What's it like? Side effects?

>Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

February 25, 2002

Hi JE,

I find Neurontin somewhat helpful in reducing facial pain. I have taken it

for about 2 years, usually at 1800mg daily, in divided doses. Lower doses

were ineffective, and I didn't find that taking higher doses provided any

more relief. I don't experience any side effects, but two of the most

common ones are drowsiness and dizziness, especially at first. They often

wear off with continued use.

Good luck,

Jen

>Is anyone out there taking neurontin? My derm is thinking of

>prescribing it for my facial pain. What's it like? Side effects?

>Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

March 20, 2002

I am on a LARGE dose of Neurontin a day (2400 mg-divided doses) for my

neuropathic pain, and it does help. But it does nothing for my facial

flushing.

Feel free to write me if you have any questions,

Kathy

March 20, 2002

I am on a LARGE dose of Neurontin a day (2400 mg-divided doses) for my

neuropathic pain, and it does help. But it does nothing for my facial

flushing.

Feel free to write me if you have any questions,

Kathy

March 20, 2002

I am on a LARGE dose of Neurontin a day (2400 mg-divided doses) for my

neuropathic pain, and it does help. But it does nothing for my facial

flushing.

Feel free to write me if you have any questions,

Kathy

May 5, 2002

birgit,

I take 600 mg, 6 tablets a day. Yes, it help the pain, it mostly helps the to

relieve the anxiety that

you experience associated with the pain. When I first started the med. I noted

great assistance in the

relief the the symptoms associated with chronic pain, but not the pain itself.

Now, I really would not

what to fast the pain without the assistance of the Neurontin. I take all six

of my pills in the evening,

I found it made me too sleepy during the day hours.

gail

birgit belcher wrote:

> Hello everybody,

> I am still having a jejunostomy feedingtube with nightly feedings,in order

> to rest the pancreas.i n spite I am having a lot of daily pain and my doctor

> is trying me now on neurontin. Is anybody on neurontin for painrelief?Is it

> helpful? and what dosage are you taking?

> Please let me know

> Birgit

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May 6, 2002

Dear Birgit,

I take 1200 mg Neurontin a day... I would never offer it to someone as a

solution for pain, I don't think of it as a pain med at all. It does seem to

help with my anxiety level, which inadvertently has to do with how well I

manage pain, but I definitely don't think of it as a pain med in and of

itself. It also has helped with my mental acuity to some degree, and has

helped with my depression a little bit (I believe)...

But it always concerns me when I hear it being prescribed as a source for

pain relief. It surely would not work in that capacity for me - I hope that

you will find it helpful and effective. If you don't, please let your doctor

know right away that you're in terrific pain and that it is NOT helping, and

that you need real pain relief.

Good luck Birgit...

Peace & best wishes,

Terry in KC

<< birgit belcher wrote:

> Hello everybody,

> I am still having a jejunostomy feedingtube with nightly feedings,in order

> to rest the pancreas.i n spite I am having a lot of daily pain and my doctor

> is trying me now on neurontin. Is anybody on neurontin for painrelief?Is it

> helpful? and what dosage are you taking?

> Please let me know

> Birgit >>

May 7, 2002

Hey Birgit,

My daughter was started on Neurontin a few months ago. The docs

stopped her loratab and put her on Ultram. The docs are pleased she

is not on narcotics. To me...I just don't know. She has bad days

and the docs told her when in worse pain take the loratab. I have to

talk her into it cuz she wants to do what the docs want...no

narcotics. She does take them when bad enough and lucky I have a

good supply built up for right now. Anyway, she takes 300 mg of

neurontin in the morn and afternoon, at bedtime 600 mg. Her GI says

she is doing better cuz she only takes 3 or 4 lortab a week. Maybe

the neurontin is helping with that but the last two weeks she has had

to up the loratab, and some days through the last few months are just

worse than others and she will take more of the lortab. If your pain

is bad you probably need something with the neurontin. Seems my post

to you is just confusing but I hope you at least hear the support I

am trying to give. Talk to ya soon,

>

> Hello everybody,

> I am still having a jejunostomy feedingtube with nightly

feedings,in order

> to rest the pancreas.i n spite I am having a lot of daily pain and

my doctor

> is trying me now on neurontin. Is anybody on neurontin for

painrelief?Is it

> helpful? and what dosage are you taking?

> Please let me know

> Birgit

>

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May 7, 2002

Not confusing at all, .

I remember when they gave your daughter Neurontin " for pain " , and you asked

the list about it... Seems like her experience is much like mine was then,

and still is... Might help with neurologic function, perhaps even " assist "

pain meds, but it doesn't even come CLOSE to being called a " pain med " - not

in my book!

Met with my new PM doc today - interestingly, she upped my Neurontin -

actually doubled it - to 2400 mg/day... She said that will help with the

" tingling " and " burning " and numbness that I experience in my hands and feet

as a result of diabetic neuropathy. Hopefully it'll work for THAT. Haha.

Made a few other changes as well, hopefully on the right track. She didn't

think I seemed depressed. Duh. You mean I forgot to put my " depressed "

sticker on my forehead today before leaving the house?? Wow, no wonder she

couldn't tell. Course, to be fair, I wasn't wearing my " depressed " shirt,

either.

Among the many questions that I had for her (first time appointment with her,

haven't seen a PM doc for 6 months - I had a few questions!!), we didn't come

back to two of them - the need for additional help with anxiety, and

something to help me sleep. With the Methadone that I'm on (which she

increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE she

increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no sleep.

I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing.

I have a bottle full of Halcyon, but it knocks me out for the entire next

day, so I don't like taking it - does anybody else have this happen with

Halcyon?? I think I'd like to go back to Ambian, or maybe something more for

anxiety that might help with sleep. Suggestions?

She was good all-in-all, just way, WAY too overbooked. The nurse told me

that they triple-book her. That's pretty ridiculous. My appointment was for

1:00 PM. I saw her from 3:45 - 4:05. That was to accomplish a first time

meeting for a new PM doc as well as a psych eval, as she's supposed to serve

as both for me. Don't think it's going to work quite right if I can expect

this regularly... Maybe just as a PM doc, but certainly not both. But I do

like her. She's a good egg. No contracts or anything, that was cool. Never

once treated me like a drug seeker, and she's the one that suggested " upping "

the meds that she DID increase. I just nodded my head with a dumfounded

expression and watched the tornado whiz past.

Peace,

Terry in KC

<< Seems my post to you is just confusing but I hope you at least hear the

support I am trying to give. Talk to ya soon, >>

May 7, 2002

Hi Terry,

My doc told me that he was afraid that if I took Ambien I might stop

breathing. I also take 60mg of MSContin. Seems pretty ridiculous to me. I'm

6'3 " and 260 lbs. Takes a lot of anything to knock me out.

Jerry

************************

Re: Re: Neurontin

>With the Methadone that I'm on (which she

> increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE she

> increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no sleep.

> I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing.

May 7, 2002

Terry:

I use Remeron to help me with my depression and sleep. It works wonders- so

far on the sleep problem. I haven't been on itlong enough to tell whether

its help the depression part. Ambien and Halcion are suppose to only be for

short term use. If you haven't tried it, it might be worth asking about.

>From: roguekc@...

>Reply-To: pancreatitis

>To: swetet@..., pancreatitis

>Subject: Re: Re: Neurontin

>Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:46:59 EDT

>

>Not confusing at all, .

>

>I remember when they gave your daughter Neurontin " for pain " , and you asked

>the list about it... Seems like her experience is much like mine was then,

>and still is... Might help with neurologic function, perhaps even " assist "

>pain meds, but it doesn't even come CLOSE to being called a " pain med " -

>not

>in my book!

>

>Met with my new PM doc today - interestingly, she upped my Neurontin -

>actually doubled it - to 2400 mg/day... She said that will help with the

> " tingling " and " burning " and numbness that I experience in my hands and

>feet

>as a result of diabetic neuropathy. Hopefully it'll work for THAT. Haha.

>

>Made a few other changes as well, hopefully on the right track. She didn't

>think I seemed depressed. Duh. You mean I forgot to put my " depressed "

>sticker on my forehead today before leaving the house?? Wow, no wonder

>she

>couldn't tell. Course, to be fair, I wasn't wearing my " depressed " shirt,

>either.

>

>Among the many questions that I had for her (first time appointment with

>her,

>haven't seen a PM doc for 6 months - I had a few questions!!), we didn't

>come

>back to two of them - the need for additional help with anxiety, and

>something to help me sleep. With the Methadone that I'm on (which she

>increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE she

>increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no sleep.

>I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing.

>

>I have a bottle full of Halcyon, but it knocks me out for the entire next

>day, so I don't like taking it - does anybody else have this happen with

>Halcyon?? I think I'd like to go back to Ambian, or maybe something more

>for

>anxiety that might help with sleep. Suggestions?

>

>She was good all-in-all, just way, WAY too overbooked. The nurse told me

>that they triple-book her. That's pretty ridiculous. My appointment was

>for

>1:00 PM. I saw her from 3:45 - 4:05. That was to accomplish a first time

>meeting for a new PM doc as well as a psych eval, as she's supposed to

>serve

>as both for me. Don't think it's going to work quite right if I can expect

>this regularly... Maybe just as a PM doc, but certainly not both. But I do

>like her. She's a good egg. No contracts or anything, that was cool.

>Never

>once treated me like a drug seeker, and she's the one that suggested

> " upping "

>the meds that she DID increase. I just nodded my head with a dumfounded

>expression and watched the tornado whiz past.

>

>Peace,

>Terry in KC

>

><< Seems my post to you is just confusing but I hope you at least hear the

>support I am trying to give. Talk to ya soon, >>

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May 7, 2002

Dear Jerry,

Your doctor is definitely full of something. He should

try an enema I'm thinking, that is to help him get rid

of what he's full of. Ambien is so safe and so mild I

seriously doubt that it could make you stop breating,

even if you found you were allergic to it. I don't

know about anyone else here, but I personally have

never heard of any Ambien related deaths. Unless you

have other problems your not expressing here; I think

it would take an awful lot of Ambien to be fatal.

Your Friend,

Mark

--- Jerry Pople jmpople@...> wrote:

> Hi Terry,

> My doc told me that he was afraid that if I took

> Ambien I might stop

> breathing. I also take 60mg of MSContin. Seems

> pretty ridiculous to me. I'm

> 6'3 " and 260 lbs. Takes a lot of anything to knock

> me out.

>

> Jerry

> ************************

>

> Re: Re: Neurontin

>

> >With the Methadone that I'm on (which she

> > increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at

> ALL. (Even BEFORE she

> > increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days

> at a time with no sleep.

> > I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing.

>

__________________________________________________

May 7, 2002

Dear Jerry,

Your doctor is definitely full of something. He should

try an enema I'm thinking, that is to help him get rid

of what he's full of. Ambien is so safe and so mild I

seriously doubt that it could make you stop breating,

even if you found you were allergic to it. I don't

know about anyone else here, but I personally have

never heard of any Ambien related deaths. Unless you

have other problems your not expressing here; I think

it would take an awful lot of Ambien to be fatal.

Your Friend,

Mark

--- Jerry Pople jmpople@...> wrote:

> Hi Terry,

> My doc told me that he was afraid that if I took

> Ambien I might stop

> breathing. I also take 60mg of MSContin. Seems

> pretty ridiculous to me. I'm

> 6'3 " and 260 lbs. Takes a lot of anything to knock

> me out.

>

> Jerry

> ************************

>

> Re: Re: Neurontin

>

> >With the Methadone that I'm on (which she

> > increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at

> ALL. (Even BEFORE she

> > increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days

> at a time with no sleep.

> > I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing.

>

__________________________________________________

May 7, 2002

Dear Jerry,

Your doctor is definitely full of something. He should

try an enema I'm thinking, that is to help him get rid

of what he's full of. Ambien is so safe and so mild I

seriously doubt that it could make you stop breating,

even if you found you were allergic to it. I don't

know about anyone else here, but I personally have

never heard of any Ambien related deaths. Unless you

have other problems your not expressing here; I think

it would take an awful lot of Ambien to be fatal.

Your Friend,

Mark

--- Jerry Pople jmpople@...> wrote:

> Hi Terry,

> My doc told me that he was afraid that if I took

> Ambien I might stop

> breathing. I also take 60mg of MSContin. Seems

> pretty ridiculous to me. I'm

> 6'3 " and 260 lbs. Takes a lot of anything to knock

> me out.

>

> Jerry

> ************************

>

> Re: Re: Neurontin

>

> >With the Methadone that I'm on (which she

> > increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at

> ALL. (Even BEFORE she

> > increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days

> at a time with no sleep.

> > I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing.

>

__________________________________________________

May 8, 2002

Terry,

I also was on Remon for depression. I did good ,but the one problem I

encountered was the severe increase

in appetite. I was eating allot. Also, was eating at naught when I was

sleeping. If you have pancreas

problem and are ot able to eat there may be a problem, I was on it after I had

the pancreatectomy and

islet cell transplant.

gail

SHANNON TUTEN wrote:

> Terry:

>

> I use Remeron to help me with my depression and sleep. It works wonders- so

> far on the sleep problem. I haven't been on itlong enough to tell whether

> its help the depression part. Ambien and Halcion are suppose to only be for

> short term use. If you haven't tried it, it might be worth asking about.

>

> >From: roguekc@...

> >Reply-To: pancreatitis

> >To: swetet@..., pancreatitis

> >Subject: Re: Re: Neurontin

> >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:46:59 EDT

> >

> >Not confusing at all, .

> >

> >I remember when they gave your daughter Neurontin " for pain " , and you asked

> >the list about it... Seems like her experience is much like mine was then,

> >and still is... Might help with neurologic function, perhaps even " assist "

> >pain meds, but it doesn't even come CLOSE to being called a " pain med " -

> >not

> >in my book!

> >

> >Met with my new PM doc today - interestingly, she upped my Neurontin -

> >actually doubled it - to 2400 mg/day... She said that will help with the

> > " tingling " and " burning " and numbness that I experience in my hands and

> >feet

> >as a result of diabetic neuropathy. Hopefully it'll work for THAT. Haha.

> >

> >Made a few other changes as well, hopefully on the right track. She didn't

> >think I seemed depressed. Duh. You mean I forgot to put my " depressed "

> >sticker on my forehead today before leaving the house?? Wow, no wonder

> >she

> >couldn't tell. Course, to be fair, I wasn't wearing my " depressed " shirt,

> >either.

> >

> >Among the many questions that I had for her (first time appointment with

> >her,

> >haven't seen a PM doc for 6 months - I had a few questions!!), we didn't

> >come

> >back to two of them - the need for additional help with anxiety, and

> >something to help me sleep. With the Methadone that I'm on (which she

> >increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE she

> >increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no sleep.

> >I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing.

> >

> >I have a bottle full of Halcyon, but it knocks me out for the entire next

> >day, so I don't like taking it - does anybody else have this happen with

> >Halcyon?? I think I'd like to go back to Ambian, or maybe something more

> >for

> >anxiety that might help with sleep. Suggestions?

> >

> >She was good all-in-all, just way, WAY too overbooked. The nurse told me

> >that they triple-book her. That's pretty ridiculous. My appointment was

> >for

> >1:00 PM. I saw her from 3:45 - 4:05. That was to accomplish a first time

> >meeting for a new PM doc as well as a psych eval, as she's supposed to

> >serve

> >as both for me. Don't think it's going to work quite right if I can expect

> >this regularly... Maybe just as a PM doc, but certainly not both. But I do

> >like her. She's a good egg. No contracts or anything, that was cool.

> >Never

> >once treated me like a drug seeker, and she's the one that suggested

> > " upping "

> >the meds that she DID increase. I just nodded my head with a dumfounded

> >expression and watched the tornado whiz past.

> >

> >Peace,

> >Terry in KC

> >

> ><< Seems my post to you is just confusing but I hope you at least hear the

> >support I am trying to give. Talk to ya soon, >>

>

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May 8, 2002

Terry,

I also was on Remon for depression. I did good ,but the one problem I

encountered was the severe increase

in appetite. I was eating allot. Also, was eating at naught when I was

sleeping. If you have pancreas

problem and are ot able to eat there may be a problem, I was on it after I had

the pancreatectomy and

islet cell transplant.

gail

SHANNON TUTEN wrote:

> Terry:

>

> I use Remeron to help me with my depression and sleep. It works wonders- so

> far on the sleep problem. I haven't been on itlong enough to tell whether

> its help the depression part. Ambien and Halcion are suppose to only be for

> short term use. If you haven't tried it, it might be worth asking about.

>

> >From: roguekc@...

> >Reply-To: pancreatitis

> >To: swetet@..., pancreatitis

> >Subject: Re: Re: Neurontin

> >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:46:59 EDT

> >

> >Not confusing at all, .

> >

> >I remember when they gave your daughter Neurontin " for pain " , and you asked

> >the list about it... Seems like her experience is much like mine was then,

> >and still is... Might help with neurologic function, perhaps even " assist "

> >pain meds, but it doesn't even come CLOSE to being called a " pain med " -

> >not

> >in my book!

> >

> >Met with my new PM doc today - interestingly, she upped my Neurontin -

> >actually doubled it - to 2400 mg/day... She said that will help with the

> > " tingling " and " burning " and numbness that I experience in my hands and

> >feet

> >as a result of diabetic neuropathy. Hopefully it'll work for THAT. Haha.

> >

> >Made a few other changes as well, hopefully on the right track. She didn't

> >think I seemed depressed. Duh. You mean I forgot to put my " depressed "

> >sticker on my forehead today before leaving the house?? Wow, no wonder

> >she

> >couldn't tell. Course, to be fair, I wasn't wearing my " depressed " shirt,

> >either.

> >

> >Among the many questions that I had for her (first time appointment with

> >her,

> >haven't seen a PM doc for 6 months - I had a few questions!!), we didn't

> >come

> >back to two of them - the need for additional help with anxiety, and

> >something to help me sleep. With the Methadone that I'm on (which she

> >increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE she

> >increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no sleep.

> >I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing.

> >

> >I have a bottle full of Halcyon, but it knocks me out for the entire next

> >day, so I don't like taking it - does anybody else have this happen with

> >Halcyon?? I think I'd like to go back to Ambian, or maybe something more

> >for

> >anxiety that might help with sleep. Suggestions?

> >

> >She was good all-in-all, just way, WAY too overbooked. The nurse told me

> >that they triple-book her. That's pretty ridiculous. My appointment was

> >for

> >1:00 PM. I saw her from 3:45 - 4:05. That was to accomplish a first time

> >meeting for a new PM doc as well as a psych eval, as she's supposed to

> >serve

> >as both for me. Don't think it's going to work quite right if I can expect

> >this regularly... Maybe just as a PM doc, but certainly not both. But I do

> >like her. She's a good egg. No contracts or anything, that was cool.

> >Never

> >once treated me like a drug seeker, and she's the one that suggested

> > " upping "

> >the meds that she DID increase. I just nodded my head with a dumfounded

> >expression and watched the tornado whiz past.

> >

> >Peace,

> >Terry in KC

> >

> ><< Seems my post to you is just confusing but I hope you at least hear the

> >support I am trying to give. Talk to ya soon, >>

>

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May 8, 2002

Terry,

I also was on Remon for depression. I did good ,but the one problem I

encountered was the severe increase

in appetite. I was eating allot. Also, was eating at naught when I was

sleeping. If you have pancreas

problem and are ot able to eat there may be a problem, I was on it after I had

the pancreatectomy and

islet cell transplant.

gail

SHANNON TUTEN wrote:

> Terry:

>

> I use Remeron to help me with my depression and sleep. It works wonders- so

> far on the sleep problem. I haven't been on itlong enough to tell whether

> its help the depression part. Ambien and Halcion are suppose to only be for

> short term use. If you haven't tried it, it might be worth asking about.

>

> >From: roguekc@...

> >Reply-To: pancreatitis

> >To: swetet@..., pancreatitis

> >Subject: Re: Re: Neurontin

> >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:46:59 EDT

> >

> >Not confusing at all, .

> >

> >I remember when they gave your daughter Neurontin " for pain " , and you asked

> >the list about it... Seems like her experience is much like mine was then,

> >and still is... Might help with neurologic function, perhaps even " assist "

> >pain meds, but it doesn't even come CLOSE to being called a " pain med " -

> >not

> >in my book!

> >

> >Met with my new PM doc today - interestingly, she upped my Neurontin -

> >actually doubled it - to 2400 mg/day... She said that will help with the

> > " tingling " and " burning " and numbness that I experience in my hands and

> >feet

> >as a result of diabetic neuropathy. Hopefully it'll work for THAT. Haha.

> >

> >Made a few other changes as well, hopefully on the right track. She didn't

> >think I seemed depressed. Duh. You mean I forgot to put my " depressed "

> >sticker on my forehead today before leaving the house?? Wow, no wonder

> >she

> >couldn't tell. Course, to be fair, I wasn't wearing my " depressed " shirt,

> >either.

> >

> >Among the many questions that I had for her (first time appointment with

> >her,

> >haven't seen a PM doc for 6 months - I had a few questions!!), we didn't

> >come

> >back to two of them - the need for additional help with anxiety, and

> >something to help me sleep. With the Methadone that I'm on (which she

> >increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE she

> >increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no sleep.

> >I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing.

> >

> >I have a bottle full of Halcyon, but it knocks me out for the entire next

> >day, so I don't like taking it - does anybody else have this happen with

> >Halcyon?? I think I'd like to go back to Ambian, or maybe something more

> >for

> >anxiety that might help with sleep. Suggestions?

> >

> >She was good all-in-all, just way, WAY too overbooked. The nurse told me

> >that they triple-book her. That's pretty ridiculous. My appointment was

> >for

> >1:00 PM. I saw her from 3:45 - 4:05. That was to accomplish a first time

> >meeting for a new PM doc as well as a psych eval, as she's supposed to

> >serve

> >as both for me. Don't think it's going to work quite right if I can expect

> >this regularly... Maybe just as a PM doc, but certainly not both. But I do

> >like her. She's a good egg. No contracts or anything, that was cool.

> >Never

> >once treated me like a drug seeker, and she's the one that suggested

> > " upping "

> >the meds that she DID increase. I just nodded my head with a dumfounded

> >expression and watched the tornado whiz past.

> >

> >Peace,

> >Terry in KC

> >

> ><< Seems my post to you is just confusing but I hope you at least hear the

> >support I am trying to give. Talk to ya soon, >>

>

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May 8, 2002

Jerry:

I was pretty sure that the reason not tomix the 2 was due to the fact it can

cause resp. depression. I looked it up, you can read for yourself. We have

to remember that you have to be VERY CAREFUL with what drugs we mix (

intentionally or not) with narcotics.

Zolpidem ( Ambien )

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Zolpidem ( Ambien ) is a Sleeping pill from a newer group of drugs

called imidzopyridines.. Used primarily for short-term treatment of insomnia

in adults.

Strengths:

Tables:

5 mg, 10 mg

Dosages: Actual dosage must be determined by a physician.

Oral:

Start : 5 mg daily at bedtime, increase to 10 mg if needed.

Increases : Assess after 10 days, increase as needed.

Maintenance : as low as possible in 24 hours.

Maximum : 10 mg in 24 hours.

Normal dosage:

If under 18 years of age, DO NOT USE!

18 to 60 years of age, 10 mg at bedtime.

Over 60 years of age, 5 mg at bedtime. ( Increased to 10 mg cautiously. )

Problems with:

Liver Function: Reduce dosage by 50%.

Kidney Function: Reduce dosage. ( Half life is doubled

in chronic kidney compromise )

Take With: Empty stomach and a full glass of water.

Full Benefits In: In a few days.

Missed Dose(s): If you take this drug at bedtime and miss it do not take in

morning. If within one hour take, if over an hour skip and then continue

on your normal schedule.

Never Take a Double Dose!

If Stop Taking: Do not stop without consulting your physician and never

abruptly if you have been taking this drug for over 7 days.

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Warnings

Narcotics may increase the sedative effects of this drug. Do not drink

alcohol with this drug, it could decrease your breathing rate to the point

of unconsciousness or coma. Do not take this drug with any other drug that

might slow the central nervous system, like another sedative,

benzodiazepine., sleeping pills, monoamine oxidase inhibitor,

antipsychotics, anticonvulsants or antihistamines.

The habit-forming potential is high. Psychological and physical dependence

is possible. Do not stop taking this drug abruptly, this could cause

psychological and physical withdrawal symptoms.

Do not take this drug if you are pregnant or if planning to become pregnant.

Do not take if you are breast-feeding.

Do not take this drug if under eighteen and in small doses if over sixty

with close monitoring.

Do not use if: You had negative reactions to a similar drug in the past. If

you have kidney or liver damage. If you have breathing problems or suffer

form depression.

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Zolpidem ( Symptoms or Effects )

Common: Abdominal pain, abnormal dreaming, abnormal vision, amnesia, dry

mouth, daytime drowsiness, defective muscular coordination, depression,

diarrhea, dizziness, double vision, drugged feelings, euphoria, fatigue,

insomnia, lethargy, light headedness, nausea, painful digestion,

tenderness/pain in muscles, upper respiratory infection, vertigo, vomiting,

headache or confusion.

Rare: Abnormal liver function, abnormal secretion/discharge of tears,

decrease of white blood cells, abnormal thinking, abscesses, acne, acute

kidney failure, aggravated allergies/hypertension, aggression, altered

salivation, anaphylactic shock, anemia, boils, belching, breast pain, breast

tumors/growths, bronchial spasm, circulatory failure, decreased sex drive,

delusions, dementia, decrease of the lymph nodes, disease of the nerves, eye

pain, facial swelling, feeling of unreality, feeling strange, fluid in

lungs, flushing, frequent urination, glaucoma, gout, heart attack,

hemorrhoids, herpes simplex, high cholesterol, hot flashes, hysteria,

impotence, increased appetite, illusions, increased lipids in the blood,

increased tolerance for the drug, inflammation of a

nerve/tendon/vein/artery/external auditory canal/intestines/middle

ear/skin/stomach, intestinal blockage, intoxicated feelings, irregular

heartbeat, joint disease, laryngitis, leg cramps, low blood pressure, manic

reactions, muscle spasms/weakness, neurosis, nosebleeds, oxygen deficiency,

general pain, painful/difficult urination, panic attacks, partial paralysis,

persistent desire to empty the bowel/bladder, personality disorder,

pneumonia, rectal bleeding/pain, restless legs, sciatica, sensation of

sparks/flashes of light, sensitivity to light, severe pain along the course

of a nerve, shingles, skin discoloration, sleepwalking, spasm of the

esophagus, speech impairment, sudden chill with high temperature followed by

a sense of heat/profuse perspiration, suicide attempt, temporary loss of

consciousness, thirst, tooth decay, ulceration of the cornea, urinary

retention, varicose veins, weight loss or yawning.

See physician NOW: For any problem listed above!

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>Reply-To: pancreatitis

>To: pancreatitis >

>Subject: Re: Re: Neurontin

>Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 19:47:38 -0400

>

>Hi Terry,

>My doc told me that he was afraid that if I took Ambien I might stop

>breathing. I also take 60mg of MSContin. Seems pretty ridiculous to me. I'm

>6'3 " and 260 lbs. Takes a lot of anything to knock me out.

>

>Jerry

>************************

>

> Re: Re: Neurontin

>

> >With the Methadone that I'm on (which she

> > increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE

>she

> > increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no

>sleep.

> > I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing.

>

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