Guest guest Posted July 12, 2002 Report Share Posted July 12, 2002 For what it's worth, my son's first OAT showed a DHPPA of 1074 (ref. range is 0-150). According to my DAN, the high DHPPA is a clostridia marker. My DAN recommended 2 capsules ProCulture Gold daily. After two months, the DHPPA was down to 704. He suggested upping the ProCulture Gold to 4 capsules per day. Sometimes, I gave him six per day, split in three doses. Three months later, the DHPPA was in normal range. I tried letting up on the ProCulture Gold, and it returned. So now, over a year later, he still gets 4-6 capsules ProCulture Gold. I have tried other probiotics and he does poorly on them. Along with the PCGold, he also gets scFOS and Colostrum. Don't know if this will help anyone, but it worked for my son. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 Hi- Does anyone have any suggestions or dealing with Clostridia---beyond Culterelle, which we have been using for years and has not tackled the problem for us. Our DAN! doc keeps prescribing vancomycin but the Clostridia just keeps coming back. Thanks- SJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 > Hi- > > Does anyone have any suggestions or dealing with Clostridia---beyond > Culterelle, which we have been using for years and has not tackled the problem for us. Does he have a yeast problem also? If not, consider trying to increase yeast. Whenever my kids have a bacteria problem that the Culturelle does not help much, I do another round of chelation and extend it a few days. This helps. You can also rotate probiotics, that seems to help quite a few kids. Zinc also helps my kids with both yeast and bacteria issues. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 What do you recommend for Clostridia? For Culturelle, does it work better with meals or between? How many? Thanks- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Hi Sharon: I am at work right now so I dont have my reference book. But I remember reading that Culturelle is good in some way with Clostridia. Dont know the symptoms. When I get home I will look it up in the book (which I cannot remember the name of) and get back to you. I specifically remember Culturell because it has been mentioned in posts here and it caught my eye while I was reading another book. Eileen >From: Alan <Sharonke@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Clostridia >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:43:48 -0800 > >Does anyone know what the symptoms of clostridia in our kids looks like >and also what natural substances can be used to kill clostridia? > >Thanks! > >Sharon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Hi: My son has the wretched stench in bms also and I wouldnt say body odor but I call it a sleep odor especially in his hair. His hair never smells clean even after a shower. I also cant seem to get that particular odor out of his room. It always smells like a sleep odor. I have tried everyting I wonder if this is the same thing. Just started the culturelle 1 at night. EIleen He also gets like a cheesy film on his teeth and in the corners of his mouth. Not so bad lately. But I am always wiping it away. >From: " jornmatt " <kjorn@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Clostridia >Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 04:11:49 -0000 > > >My younger son had this (circumstantial evidence). One thing to note >is a horrible, wretched stench in bms. The kind that chase you out of >the house. And if the person has constipation problems, Clostridia is >likely. My son had body odor, bad breathe...even after a shower. > >We used aggressive doses of Culturelle and Peptizyde (for a few >months which controlled it but didn't lick it), followed by a round >of colloidal silver by Source Naturals. After that, the bacteria was >gone, gone, GONE! And after dealing with it for a good 6 years, I was >happy, happy, HAPPY! > >. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Hi My son got clostridia last year. To make a long story into a short one, he had yeast, I put him on SCD (diet) and probiotics and he got rid of the yeast but it left space for clostridia as the probiotics I was using were not sufficient (I used the recommended dosage and it was not enough). Anyway, the symptoms I remember for my son was diarrhea (very smelly) and hyperactivity. Also his behavior was better on the SCD but he kept being inflexible... some autistic symptoms disappeared with the yeast but some were more there with clostridia... the problem is different kids will show different symptoms. To get rid of clostridia, you have of course culturelle but it is not the only option. Basically the strain L Rhamnosus bacteria is very efficient to deal with clostridia and I got mine from a US company called CUSTOM PROBIOTICS. You can find it on the internet just by typing this on . I use his CP1 formula (it is for adult but it does wonder for my 5 year old) . the man makes his own bacterias and it is good stuff. He also has a formula without D- lactate which he made specially for autistic kids... good luck Veronique > Hi Sharon: I looked up that information in Biological Treatments for Autism > and PDD by Dr. Shaw. It pretty much says that Culturelle is > effective in the treatment of Clostridia. It really doesnt give symptoms, > says that patients with Clostridia or high HPHPA values in their urine are > not only found in individuals with autism but almost always have > reurological, psychiatric or gastrointestinal disorders. Hope it helps. I > have started using Culturelle (even before I had this info) a few days ago. > I started at 1/2 cap at bedtime. It is good bacteria and I figured it cant > hurt especially if he has yeast issues. Eileen > > >From: " eileen brischoux " <ebrischoux@h...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: RE: Clostridia > >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:00:41 -0500 > > > >Hi Sharon: I am at work right now so I dont have my reference book. But I > >remember reading that Culturelle is good in some way with Clostridia. Dont > >know the symptoms. When I get home I will look it up in the book (which I > >cannot remember the name of) and get back to you. I specifically remember > >Culturell because it has been mentioned in posts here and it caught my eye > >while I was reading another book. Eileen > > > > >From: Alan <Sharonke@l...> > > >Reply- > > > > > >Subject: Clostridia > > >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:43:48 -0800 > > > > > >Does anyone know what the symptoms of clostridia in our kids looks like > > >and also what natural substances can be used to kill clostridia? > > > > > >Thanks! > > > > > >Sharon > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 > and also what natural substances can be used to kill clostridia? Hi, I haven't seen any mention of Saccharomyces boulardii, a kind of yeast that can be useful against Clostridium difficile. It is sold the same places that you can buy the usual probiotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 on 11/19/04 7:15 AM, wrote: > We used aggressive doses of Culturelle and Peptizyde (for a few > months which controlled it but didn't lick it), followed by a round > of colloidal silver by Source Naturals. What do you consider aggressive doses of Culturelle? Peptizyde? Protocol (when did you give it? away from food? other enzymes?) What was the dose/protocol for the colloidal silver? TIA, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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