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My son had a rash that they finally decided was eczema after

treatment for ringworm didn't work. They also gave me prescription

strength Hydrocortizone cream that didn't work either. I finally

started using Eucerin cream, and it went away. His rash didn't look

like what you are describing though, but with my son, the doctors

never seem to really know what it was. I believe they were just

guessing.

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In a message dated 3/3/01 4:35:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,

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> but with my son, the doctors

> never seem to really know what it was. I believe they were just

> guessing.

>

>

> I think we have all felt this way many, many, many times. AARRRGH!

I just wish they would admit that they're not all-knowing and listen to us

and work together instead of against us. (do I seem bitter?...Sorry)

Cherri

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No I honestly don't know. I have been a little afraid to use it

since we went on this diet. If you call, please post and let us know

what you find out. I won't have a chance to call.

Thanks,

Connie

>

> We use Eucerin with good results as well. Do you know for sure if

the

> lotion is gfcf? I was going to call on Monday, but if you already

know...?

> Thanks...Tamara&Ebony

>

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No I honestly don't know. I have been a little afraid to use it

since we went on this diet. If you call, please post and let us know

what you find out. I won't have a chance to call.

Thanks,

Connie

>

> We use Eucerin with good results as well. Do you know for sure if

the

> lotion is gfcf? I was going to call on Monday, but if you already

know...?

> Thanks...Tamara&Ebony

>

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> Also, I have a friend whose 4 year old (not autistic) son has

eczema

> and seems to be self limiting himself to cheese. Does anyone know

if

> there is a connection here? How do you treat the eczema?

> Thanks

> Michele

Hi Michele -

We also have eczema issues in my family. With our 4 year old autistic

boy it all cleared up after we put him on the diet. He had eczema so

bad that he had tan lines around the patches when they cleared up! We

had switched him to soy milk, but he started drinking lots of it and

still had red cheeks so we took it away and the cheeks cleared up.

My daughter also has eczema and we can't figure out what is causing

it. She is only 10 months old and we did end up breaking down and

using the steroid cream when it got so bad it was keeping her up at

night. I felt terrible about using it, but I was at my wits end. What

I did find out was interesting. I read the insert that the pharmacy

gave us for the cream and one of the side effects was that it

depletes your zinc level. The other thing I had read elsewhere was

that when allergic people have a reaction it is caused by the raised

histamine level in their body - guess what helps control your

histamine level.... ZINC! So.... there is the reason for the rebound

effect after using steroid creams! What I have been doing for my

daughter is supplimenting her with zinc and also borage oil (similar

to flax seed oil or evening prim rose oil) which contains GLA - which

is good for skin. Since we have been supplimenting her we haven't

used the steroid cream - however, the eczema hasn't gone away

entirely. It isn't as bad and we use Eucerine to keep her moisturized

and bath her with vitamine E oil in her bath (I like to call this the

Cleopatra treatment) and so far we have kept it at bay. I think that

she may grow out of it, but if it persists, we will have to do an

elimination diet with her to figure out what's causing it.

The docs don't know what causes eczema, in fact with my son they

said " Good luck trying to find out which food is causing it. " Well,

we did eventually, but it took a while.

Good luck and if we all keep sharing our eczema tips that will help

us all figure out what is causing it.

Moira

mom to Vico (4 ASD) and Culzean (10 months old - & my pampered

Cleopatra baby.)

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Moira, are you breastfeeding? If not, it could be the milk. I had horrible

eczema as a baby and it stopped when I was placed on soy milk. My other

thought is corn! Corn causes horrible eczema with my son and with me.

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> Moira, are you breastfeeding? If not, it could be the milk. I had

horrible

> eczema as a baby and it stopped when I was placed on soy milk. My

other

> thought is corn! Corn causes horrible eczema with my son and with

me.

>

> a

a -

I am still breastfeeding, but we are supplimenting with soy formula.

I was thinking that perhaps she had a soy problem, but the darndest

thing is that the eczema showed up when she was getting exclusively

breastmilk and I was GFCF! Puzzling.

I have just learned about a really good source of EFA (essential

fatty acids) However, it does have Oat germ oil in it, so I won't be

risking it with my son. It's called Udo Erasmus Oil - I wrote to a

distributor to ask about the Oat germ oil and they say that there is

none of the protein in the oat germ so it shouldn't be a problem for

Vico and would be considered GFCF, but I don't trust it. I am going

to contact the manufacturer directly. But, since my little girl isn't

vaccinated and theoretically doesn't have a damaged gut - I may try

this oil for her. It has Omega 3, 6 and 9 oils as well as Flax seed

oil and evening primrose - all stuff that is good for skin.

Anyway - thanks for the suggestions.

Moira

mom to Vico (4 ASD) and Culzean (10 months)

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> Moira, are you breastfeeding? If not, it could be the milk. I had

horrible

> eczema as a baby and it stopped when I was placed on soy milk. My

other

> thought is corn! Corn causes horrible eczema with my son and with

me.

>

> a

a -

I am still breastfeeding, but we are supplimenting with soy formula.

I was thinking that perhaps she had a soy problem, but the darndest

thing is that the eczema showed up when she was getting exclusively

breastmilk and I was GFCF! Puzzling.

I have just learned about a really good source of EFA (essential

fatty acids) However, it does have Oat germ oil in it, so I won't be

risking it with my son. It's called Udo Erasmus Oil - I wrote to a

distributor to ask about the Oat germ oil and they say that there is

none of the protein in the oat germ so it shouldn't be a problem for

Vico and would be considered GFCF, but I don't trust it. I am going

to contact the manufacturer directly. But, since my little girl isn't

vaccinated and theoretically doesn't have a damaged gut - I may try

this oil for her. It has Omega 3, 6 and 9 oils as well as Flax seed

oil and evening primrose - all stuff that is good for skin.

Anyway - thanks for the suggestions.

Moira

mom to Vico (4 ASD) and Culzean (10 months)

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In my son, in addition to dairy, eggs cause eczema--and badly!

M.

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> Dairy products cause eczema. My husband stopped eating them and his went

> away. If he eats any now, it does come back.

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Just a thought. My son's eczema was due to yeast. He got thrush from my

breastmilk when he was about 2 months old and I noticed a big difference in

his skin when I treated him for the yeast. Hope that gives you some ideas

of things to try/think about.

Abi

a -

I am still breastfeeding, but we are supplimenting with soy formula.

I was thinking that perhaps she had a soy problem, but the darndest

thing is that the eczema showed up when she was getting exclusively

breastmilk and I was GFCF! Puzzling.

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Ziva

I've never tried one of those filters. The thing that helps us is bathing Sam each day for about 20min. Then getting him out and putting a lotion called Vanicream on him. Our specialist said that is all they have their hospital use. It is OTC, but usually found behind the pharmacy. It is thick like crisco, but works amazing well! We've never had to go with perscription! Now to be fair- Sam hasn't had severe eczema! I do wonder if it is b/c we do this though??!!!

Trish

eczema

Hi, gang! I'm writing because Elisha's eczema is flaring up so badly thathe's scratching his little legs raw. I've checked his diet, and I'm goingto pester the allergists about casein again, but in the mean time I have aquestion: anyone ever try using a chlorine filter to help with dry skin?We're moisturizing the heck out of him - twice a day, using thehydracortisone cream, even a little humidifying (boiling water in a pan onthe stovetop near where he plays) and still he's scratching. So I washoping to try something else. Anyone ever try one of these filters? I wasthinking of trying one in the bathtub.-Ziva

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I've never tried one of those filters. The thing that helps us is bathing Sam each day for about 20min. Then getting him out and putting a lotion called Vanicream on him. Our specialist said that is all they have their hospital use. It is OTC, but usually found behind the pharmacy. It is thick like crisco, but works amazing well! We've never had to go with perscription! Now to be fair- Sam hasn't had severe eczema! I do wonder if it is b/c we do this though??!!!

Trish

eczema

Hi, gang! I'm writing because Elisha's eczema is flaring up so badly thathe's scratching his little legs raw. I've checked his diet, and I'm goingto pester the allergists about casein again, but in the mean time I have aquestion: anyone ever try using a chlorine filter to help with dry skin?We're moisturizing the heck out of him - twice a day, using thehydracortisone cream, even a little humidifying (boiling water in a pan onthe stovetop near where he plays) and still he's scratching. So I washoping to try something else. Anyone ever try one of these filters? I wasthinking of trying one in the bathtub.-Ziva

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Hi, gang! I'm writing because Elisha's eczema is flaring up so badly that

he's scratching his little legs raw. I've checked his diet, and I'm going

to pester the allergists about casein again, but in the mean time I have a

question: anyone ever try using a chlorine filter to help with dry skin?

We're moisturizing the heck out of him - twice a day, using the

hydracortisone cream, even a little humidifying (boiling water in a pan on

the stovetop near where he plays) and still he's scratching. So I was

hoping to try something else. Anyone ever try one of these filters? I was

thinking of trying one in the bathtub.

-Ziva

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I haven't used one or heard anything about them, but I'm sure it can't hurt.

Do you use anything on Elisha's skin other than the cortisone cream? What

is his bathing schedule like? I can't remember how old he is either (please

forgive me for not going and looking it up). LMK and I'll see if there is

any other suggestions I can come up with. I'll detail Drew's bath routine.

Drew bathes daily for a min of 30 minutes. Warm water, that is let out a

bit and refilled so it stays comfortable. He whines, moans, cries, yells,

etc. but he doesn't miss his bath. No shampoo, soap, etc. is used until

right before he gets out. No bubble bath, color tints, etc. either.

He is patted dry (no rubbing on the skin) and use his Elidel on any bad

patches. I then coat him in Aquaphor starting with his legs (they are

always the worst spots) and head up. The goal is to have him out of the tub

and greased up like a pig *G* within 3 minutes. Some days it is my goal to

have him on the towel and quiet within 5 minutes so don't stress too much

about that part. He wears long legged, long sleeved 100% cotton pj's as

year round as I can get. The summers here in Utah can get pretty warm so it

isn't feasible year round. Cotton pj's are expensive so I either sew them

myself or I hit the girls rack at the thrift store for 100% cotton leggings

in his size. There is usually a ton, they are cheap, and no one will ever

know he wears girl pants to bed :-)

This works to keep things under control about 95% of the time. When it gets

bad and I can't seem to get on top of it the Dr. will usually put him on a 3

day round of oral steroids to shock the system. Our daughter has really

rosy cheeks (which everyone thinks is cute but me!) because of the dry

winter and had some scaly patches about the size of my palm on one thigh and

one arm. I put her in the tub with Drew for about a week (and used the

Elidel and Aquaphor) and everything but the cheeks has cleared up. I

obviously can't put her head under water for 30 min a day so we are trying

to keep ointment on her face as much as possible.

Our allergist turned us onto this treatment and told us Drew was a little

raisin and we were trying to turn him back into a grape. He was about 4 and

got confused because his fingers just got more raisin like when he has

soaked. LOLOL.

----- Original Message -----

Hi, gang! I'm writing because Elisha's eczema is flaring up so badly that

he's scratching his little legs raw. I've checked his diet, and I'm going

to pester the allergists about casein again, but in the mean time I have a

question: anyone ever try using a chlorine filter to help with dry skin?

We're moisturizing the heck out of him - twice a day, using the

hydracortisone cream, even a little humidifying (boiling water in a pan on

the stovetop near where he plays) and still he's scratching. So I was

hoping to try something else. Anyone ever try one of these filters? I was

thinking of trying one in the bathtub.

-Ziva

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I haven't used one or heard anything about them, but I'm sure it can't hurt.

Do you use anything on Elisha's skin other than the cortisone cream? What

is his bathing schedule like? I can't remember how old he is either (please

forgive me for not going and looking it up). LMK and I'll see if there is

any other suggestions I can come up with. I'll detail Drew's bath routine.

Drew bathes daily for a min of 30 minutes. Warm water, that is let out a

bit and refilled so it stays comfortable. He whines, moans, cries, yells,

etc. but he doesn't miss his bath. No shampoo, soap, etc. is used until

right before he gets out. No bubble bath, color tints, etc. either.

He is patted dry (no rubbing on the skin) and use his Elidel on any bad

patches. I then coat him in Aquaphor starting with his legs (they are

always the worst spots) and head up. The goal is to have him out of the tub

and greased up like a pig *G* within 3 minutes. Some days it is my goal to

have him on the towel and quiet within 5 minutes so don't stress too much

about that part. He wears long legged, long sleeved 100% cotton pj's as

year round as I can get. The summers here in Utah can get pretty warm so it

isn't feasible year round. Cotton pj's are expensive so I either sew them

myself or I hit the girls rack at the thrift store for 100% cotton leggings

in his size. There is usually a ton, they are cheap, and no one will ever

know he wears girl pants to bed :-)

This works to keep things under control about 95% of the time. When it gets

bad and I can't seem to get on top of it the Dr. will usually put him on a 3

day round of oral steroids to shock the system. Our daughter has really

rosy cheeks (which everyone thinks is cute but me!) because of the dry

winter and had some scaly patches about the size of my palm on one thigh and

one arm. I put her in the tub with Drew for about a week (and used the

Elidel and Aquaphor) and everything but the cheeks has cleared up. I

obviously can't put her head under water for 30 min a day so we are trying

to keep ointment on her face as much as possible.

Our allergist turned us onto this treatment and told us Drew was a little

raisin and we were trying to turn him back into a grape. He was about 4 and

got confused because his fingers just got more raisin like when he has

soaked. LOLOL.

----- Original Message -----

Hi, gang! I'm writing because Elisha's eczema is flaring up so badly that

he's scratching his little legs raw. I've checked his diet, and I'm going

to pester the allergists about casein again, but in the mean time I have a

question: anyone ever try using a chlorine filter to help with dry skin?

We're moisturizing the heck out of him - twice a day, using the

hydracortisone cream, even a little humidifying (boiling water in a pan on

the stovetop near where he plays) and still he's scratching. So I was

hoping to try something else. Anyone ever try one of these filters? I was

thinking of trying one in the bathtub.

-Ziva

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I love it! What a cute pair of raisins you must have - or are they grapes

by now?

Elisha (aka 'Shai,' or the blur with legs) is two, and takes short baths -

he ends them himself by climbing out or pulling out the stopper. There is a

minimum of soap (I think - I'm not in charge of bathtime), no bubble bath

except on very very special occasions, no bath tints, but we do sprinkle

oatmeal in the tub, to help a bit with the itchiness. (I buy plain oatmeal

and run it through the blender.) Then he gets coated with Hydrolatum, as

quickly as possible after getting dried off. In the morning, he gets lotion

on the bad bits, and hydracortisone is used when things are getting bad, in

addition to the lotion.

-Ziva

At 11:17 PM 2/3/04 -0700, you wrote:

>I haven't used one or heard anything about them, but I'm sure it can't hurt.

>

>Do you use anything on Elisha's skin other than the cortisone cream? What

>is his bathing schedule like? I can't remember how old he is either (please

>forgive me for not going and looking it up). LMK and I'll see if there is

>any other suggestions I can come up with. I'll detail Drew's bath routine.

>

>Drew bathes daily for a min of 30 minutes. Warm water, that is let out a

>bit and refilled so it stays comfortable. He whines, moans, cries, yells,

>etc. but he doesn't miss his bath. No shampoo, soap, etc. is used until

>right before he gets out. No bubble bath, color tints, etc. either.

>

>He is patted dry (no rubbing on the skin) and use his Elidel on any bad

>patches. I then coat him in Aquaphor starting with his legs (they are

>always the worst spots) and head up. The goal is to have him out of the tub

>and greased up like a pig *G* within 3 minutes. Some days it is my goal to

>have him on the towel and quiet within 5 minutes so don't stress too much

>about that part. He wears long legged, long sleeved 100% cotton pj's as

>year round as I can get. The summers here in Utah can get pretty warm so it

>isn't feasible year round. Cotton pj's are expensive so I either sew them

>myself or I hit the girls rack at the thrift store for 100% cotton leggings

>in his size. There is usually a ton, they are cheap, and no one will ever

>know he wears girl pants to bed :-)

>

>This works to keep things under control about 95% of the time. When it gets

>bad and I can't seem to get on top of it the Dr. will usually put him on a 3

>day round of oral steroids to shock the system. Our daughter has really

>rosy cheeks (which everyone thinks is cute but me!) because of the dry

>winter and had some scaly patches about the size of my palm on one thigh and

>one arm. I put her in the tub with Drew for about a week (and used the

>Elidel and Aquaphor) and everything but the cheeks has cleared up. I

>obviously can't put her head under water for 30 min a day so we are trying

>to keep ointment on her face as much as possible.

>

>Our allergist turned us onto this treatment and told us Drew was a little

>raisin and we were trying to turn him back into a grape. He was about 4 and

>got confused because his fingers just got more raisin like when he has

>soaked. LOLOL.

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>

>

>

>Hi, gang! I'm writing because Elisha's eczema is flaring up so badly that

>he's scratching his little legs raw. I've checked his diet, and I'm going

>to pester the allergists about casein again, but in the mean time I have a

>question: anyone ever try using a chlorine filter to help with dry skin?

>We're moisturizing the heck out of him - twice a day, using the

>hydracortisone cream, even a little humidifying (boiling water in a pan on

>the stovetop near where he plays) and still he's scratching. So I was

>hoping to try something else. Anyone ever try one of these filters? I was

>thinking of trying one in the bathtub.

>

>-Ziva

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Everyone:

My four year old who is doing the diet with her sister and I because of our

conditions and her eczema, is still getting eczema. My four year old girl has

been on the diet for two and half months with 100% compliance. We don't do the

goat's yogurt because she doesn't like it but she does eat the goat cheese. I'm

thinking it must be the goat cheese. Should she give up her favorite cheese

because of the eczema? I've begun giving her primrose oil with no success. Any

feedback will be helpful. Thank you, Eileen Brown

7 year old daughter ADHD - 2 1/2 months on SCD

4year old eczema, food sensitivities 2 1/2 months on SCD

I have UC and have been on diet almost a year

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I do think that you need to do whatever it takes to clear up the eczema. I

believe that eczema is an outward sign that there is inflamation in the

intestinal tract. If there's inflammation, I don't think that healing can

take place. You might try giving digestive enzymes with the cheese and see

if that clears up the eczema. Otherwise, I would stop giving anything that

causes eczema.

Just my thoughts,

Marilyn

leaky gut, low thyroid/adrenal, SCD 7 weeks

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> Dear Everyone:

>

> My four year old who is doing the diet with her sister and I because of

> our conditions and her eczema, is still getting eczema. My four year old

> girl has been on the diet for two and half months with 100% compliance.

> We don't do the goat's yogurt because she doesn't like it but she does eat

> the goat cheese. I'm thinking it must be the goat cheese. Should she

> give up her favorite cheese because of the eczema? I've begun giving her

> primrose oil with no success. Any feedback will be helpful. Thank you,

> Eileen Brown

>

> 7 year old daughter ADHD - 2 1/2 months on SCD

> 4year old eczema, food sensitivities 2 1/2 months on SCD

> I have UC and have been on diet almost a year

>

>

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My typical daughter had mild eczema. A nice lady doctor at Children's Hospital

suggested that I give up on the Flax Seed Oil and give her cod liver oil

instead. I started giving her the same flavored (www.kirkmanlabs.com) cod liver

oil that I give to my ASD son and her eczema has not flared up since.

Beth Bivens-Kirkland

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Dear Everyone:

My four year old who is doing the diet with her sister and I because of our

conditions and her eczema, is still getting eczema. My four year old girl has

been on the diet for two and half months with 100% compliance. We don't do the

goat's yogurt because she doesn't like it but she does eat the goat cheese. I'm

thinking it must be the goat cheese. Should she give up her favorite cheese

because of the eczema? I've begun giving her primrose oil with no success. Any

feedback will be helpful. Thank you, Eileen Brown

7 year old daughter ADHD - 2 1/2 months on SCD

4year old eczema, food sensitivities 2 1/2 months on SCD

I have UC and have been on diet almost a year

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We have the same situation- my 2 year old typical son was on the

diet with his big sister. He has eczema. What I didn't know at the

time, before doing allergy testing, is that he's borderline allergic

(from skin prick tests) to goat milk. So I put him on SCD thinking

it would improve his digestion and help the eczema go away, and the

goat yogurt & cheese made it worse! His digestion improved once I

took it out too. I would definitely cut the cheese out for at least

a week and see if the eczema improves. Supposedly dairy is one of

the biggest culprits. Besides that, you may want to consider

traditional allergy testing if you haven't already. We found out

that besides the food allergies, my son has horrible environmental

allergies (grasses, etc.) that undoubtedly contribute to his skin

condition.

Cindy

mom to asd daughter, 4.5, SCD 13 months, and little brother, 2.5

>

> Dear Everyone:

>

> My four year old who is doing the diet with her sister and I

because of our conditions and her eczema, is still getting eczema.

My four year old girl has been on the diet for two and half months

with 100% compliance. We don't do the goat's yogurt because she

doesn't like it but she does eat the goat cheese. I'm thinking it

must be the goat cheese. Should she give up her favorite cheese

because of the eczema? I've begun giving her primrose oil with no

success. Any feedback will be helpful. Thank you, Eileen Brown

>

> 7 year old daughter ADHD - 2 1/2 months on SCD

> 4year old eczema, food sensitivities 2 1/2 months on SCD

> I have UC and have been on diet almost a year

>

>

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Where do you get this brand?

Re: Eczema

Try Emu oil applied topically. It cured my older daughter's eczema. :-)

laidinmontana.com is by far the best of the brands we have tried.

--

Carol in IL

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Hi Eileen,

> My four year old who is doing the diet with her sister and I

because of our conditions and her eczema, is still getting eczema.

My four year old girl has been on the diet for two and half months

with 100% compliance. We don't do the goat's yogurt because she

doesn't like it but she does eat the goat cheese. I'm thinking it

must be the goat cheese.

What kind of goat cheese: goat cheddar etc...?

What else is she eating besides and how is it cooked?

> Should she give up her favorite cheese because of the eczema?

I've begun giving her primrose oil with no success. Any feedback

will be helpful. Thank you, Eileen Brown

> 7 year old daughter ADHD - 2 1/2 months on SCD

> 4year old eczema, food sensitivities 2 1/2 months on SCD

> I have UC and have been on diet almost a year

Did you start your 4 yo old with the intro? If not, it may be worth

it to back to it even for just a day or two (dairy free intro) and

then reintro food leaving out out the dairy for a week or so. It

may be the dairy but it could be something else she is eating.

Sheila, SCD 57 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 42 mos

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Hi Eileen,

> My four year old who is doing the diet with her sister and I

because of our conditions and her eczema, is still getting eczema.

My four year old girl has been on the diet for two and half months

with 100% compliance. We don't do the goat's yogurt because she

doesn't like it but she does eat the goat cheese. I'm thinking it

must be the goat cheese.

What kind of goat cheese: goat cheddar etc...?

What else is she eating besides and how is it cooked?

> Should she give up her favorite cheese because of the eczema?

I've begun giving her primrose oil with no success. Any feedback

will be helpful. Thank you, Eileen Brown

> 7 year old daughter ADHD - 2 1/2 months on SCD

> 4year old eczema, food sensitivities 2 1/2 months on SCD

> I have UC and have been on diet almost a year

Did you start your 4 yo old with the intro? If not, it may be worth

it to back to it even for just a day or two (dairy free intro) and

then reintro food leaving out out the dairy for a week or so. It

may be the dairy but it could be something else she is eating.

Sheila, SCD 57 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 42 mos

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