Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Suzanne, It is my belief that the victim has to have the agent in their body anyway, the doctors told us that there is some outside catalyst to get it going. It just seems that stress or trauma to the body may bring it on faster because the immunity is down? Please don't think that you caused the cjd, it was probably going to make an appearance at some time unfortunatly it was right after you were in the hospital. Any stressful situation would have brought it on. If that is what does it, remember we are only comparing situations. What a burden to carry, I'm so sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Dolly, Thank you..... It's an on again off again thing I feel anyway.....Hopefully time will heal. Suzanne Stress and CJD >From: DBC006@... > >Hi Suzanne: > > I wanted to say that I am sorry that my email to the group brought back >painful feelings for you. I do understand and apologize for my email >upsetting you.. > > >>Reading about stress and CJD it has brought back all those > horrible, guilt-ridden feelings again. This is not a good day for me.... > Suzanne<< > > My email was meant to jog member's minds so that hopefully we can offer some >common thread to the preliminary factors that may precede the onset of CJD. > > Thank you for your continuing contributions and interest in our CJD cause. > > Thoughtfully, > >Dolly >============================================================ >Subj: Stress and CJD >Date: 3/25/99 10:01:18 AM Eastern Standard Time >From: fgd222@... (fgd222) >Reply-to: cjdvoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com >To: CJDVoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com > > Dolly, Liz, etc... > Re: Stress and CJD. > My mother died from CJD on Dec. 10, 1998. Prior to the noticable >symptoms she displayed at the end of October she, in most part, appeared >fine. She did, over several months, mention leg pain, double vision, neck and >shoulder pain, constipation, a sour taste in her mouth and insomnia. She had >leg pain for several years, but thought it was arthritis. She was NEVER one >to complain so she kept this to herself and only mentioned it in passing. She >always kept active and hide her symptoms well. > I have always believed stress caused my mom's CJD to happen. On Oct. >13th, she came to my house. I had a near fatal asthma attack. She had to >call 911. In the ER I was paralyzed, intubated and put on a ventilator. I >was in this condition for 3 days before waking up. I spent 5 more days in >Critical Care. I returned home from the hospital on Oct. 21. She stayed with >me to help me recuperate. By the end of the month she was hiding belongings >making notes to where her things were, she was extremely confused, couldn't >drive, turn on the television or shuffle and play cards.....From that point on >it was downhill until her death. > I had a TERRIBLE time dealing with the fact that maybe the stress of my >illness caused my mother's CJD to become full blown. Doctor's at >Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston assured me my illness was NOT the >cause of my mother's CJD, but I NEVER believed them entirely. > Reading about stress and CJD it has brought back all those horrible, >guilt-ridden feelings again. This is not a good day for me.... >Suzanne > >-------------------- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >We have a new web site! >http://www.onelist.com >Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you have any questions, problems, concerns, etc... please contact Liz at LArmstr853@..., Pat at Ape826@..., Dolly at DBC006@... or Beverly G at Bevalso@.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Dolly, Thank you..... It's an on again off again thing I feel anyway.....Hopefully time will heal. Suzanne Stress and CJD >From: DBC006@... > >Hi Suzanne: > > I wanted to say that I am sorry that my email to the group brought back >painful feelings for you. I do understand and apologize for my email >upsetting you.. > > >>Reading about stress and CJD it has brought back all those > horrible, guilt-ridden feelings again. This is not a good day for me.... > Suzanne<< > > My email was meant to jog member's minds so that hopefully we can offer some >common thread to the preliminary factors that may precede the onset of CJD. > > Thank you for your continuing contributions and interest in our CJD cause. > > Thoughtfully, > >Dolly >============================================================ >Subj: Stress and CJD >Date: 3/25/99 10:01:18 AM Eastern Standard Time >From: fgd222@... (fgd222) >Reply-to: cjdvoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com >To: CJDVoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com > > Dolly, Liz, etc... > Re: Stress and CJD. > My mother died from CJD on Dec. 10, 1998. Prior to the noticable >symptoms she displayed at the end of October she, in most part, appeared >fine. She did, over several months, mention leg pain, double vision, neck and >shoulder pain, constipation, a sour taste in her mouth and insomnia. She had >leg pain for several years, but thought it was arthritis. She was NEVER one >to complain so she kept this to herself and only mentioned it in passing. She >always kept active and hide her symptoms well. > I have always believed stress caused my mom's CJD to happen. On Oct. >13th, she came to my house. I had a near fatal asthma attack. She had to >call 911. In the ER I was paralyzed, intubated and put on a ventilator. I >was in this condition for 3 days before waking up. I spent 5 more days in >Critical Care. I returned home from the hospital on Oct. 21. She stayed with >me to help me recuperate. By the end of the month she was hiding belongings >making notes to where her things were, she was extremely confused, couldn't >drive, turn on the television or shuffle and play cards.....From that point on >it was downhill until her death. > I had a TERRIBLE time dealing with the fact that maybe the stress of my >illness caused my mother's CJD to become full blown. Doctor's at >Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston assured me my illness was NOT the >cause of my mother's CJD, but I NEVER believed them entirely. > Reading about stress and CJD it has brought back all those horrible, >guilt-ridden feelings again. This is not a good day for me.... >Suzanne > >-------------------- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >We have a new web site! >http://www.onelist.com >Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you have any questions, problems, concerns, etc... please contact Liz at LArmstr853@..., Pat at Ape826@..., Dolly at DBC006@... or Beverly G at Bevalso@.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Dolly, Thank you..... It's an on again off again thing I feel anyway.....Hopefully time will heal. Suzanne Stress and CJD >From: DBC006@... > >Hi Suzanne: > > I wanted to say that I am sorry that my email to the group brought back >painful feelings for you. I do understand and apologize for my email >upsetting you.. > > >>Reading about stress and CJD it has brought back all those > horrible, guilt-ridden feelings again. This is not a good day for me.... > Suzanne<< > > My email was meant to jog member's minds so that hopefully we can offer some >common thread to the preliminary factors that may precede the onset of CJD. > > Thank you for your continuing contributions and interest in our CJD cause. > > Thoughtfully, > >Dolly >============================================================ >Subj: Stress and CJD >Date: 3/25/99 10:01:18 AM Eastern Standard Time >From: fgd222@... (fgd222) >Reply-to: cjdvoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com >To: CJDVoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com > > Dolly, Liz, etc... > Re: Stress and CJD. > My mother died from CJD on Dec. 10, 1998. Prior to the noticable >symptoms she displayed at the end of October she, in most part, appeared >fine. She did, over several months, mention leg pain, double vision, neck and >shoulder pain, constipation, a sour taste in her mouth and insomnia. She had >leg pain for several years, but thought it was arthritis. She was NEVER one >to complain so she kept this to herself and only mentioned it in passing. She >always kept active and hide her symptoms well. > I have always believed stress caused my mom's CJD to happen. On Oct. >13th, she came to my house. I had a near fatal asthma attack. She had to >call 911. In the ER I was paralyzed, intubated and put on a ventilator. I >was in this condition for 3 days before waking up. I spent 5 more days in >Critical Care. I returned home from the hospital on Oct. 21. She stayed with >me to help me recuperate. By the end of the month she was hiding belongings >making notes to where her things were, she was extremely confused, couldn't >drive, turn on the television or shuffle and play cards.....From that point on >it was downhill until her death. > I had a TERRIBLE time dealing with the fact that maybe the stress of my >illness caused my mother's CJD to become full blown. Doctor's at >Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston assured me my illness was NOT the >cause of my mother's CJD, but I NEVER believed them entirely. > Reading about stress and CJD it has brought back all those horrible, >guilt-ridden feelings again. This is not a good day for me.... >Suzanne > >-------------------- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >We have a new web site! >http://www.onelist.com >Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you have any questions, problems, concerns, etc... please contact Liz at LArmstr853@..., Pat at Ape826@..., Dolly at DBC006@... or Beverly G at Bevalso@.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Here's my two cents on the stress issue: The only stress my mother had prior to her illness was self-imposed. She spent all summer worrying herself into a frenzy about my father's " heart condition " (he doesn't have one). She also worried about having breast and ovarian cancer. My mother comes from a long line of worriers. When her symptoms became obvious, she was initially diagnosed with anxiety brought on by stress which she blamed on my father not watching his health to her satisfaction. Beyond that, she didn't work at all or have any outside stressors. She also had a sour taste in her mouth as far back as a year before she died. Neither doctors nor dentists could find anything wrong. Suzanne, it is definitely not your fault that your mother got sick. We'll probably never know for sure why this horrible thing happened to our mothers. Don't feel responsible; it's not your fault that you got sick. Sheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Robin, I realize the agent was already there and I know it was just a matter of time before it showed up, but often wonder if my mom be here now had I not got sick. Maybe CJD would have progressed slower and we would have mistaken it for Alzheimer's. Whatever the reason....it's not in my hands or anyone's for that matter. God works in mysterious ways....we just need to learn from it Suzanne Re: Stress and CJD >From: XOXOBB@... > >Suzanne, > >It is my belief that the victim has to have the agent in their body anyway, >the doctors told us that there is some outside catalyst to get it going. It >just seems that stress or trauma to the body may bring it on faster because >the immunity is down? Please don't think that you caused the cjd, it was >probably going to make an appearance at some time unfortunatly it was right >after you were in the hospital. Any stressful situation would have brought it >on. If that is what does it, remember we are only comparing situations. What a >burden to carry, I'm so sorry. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? >http://www.onelist.com >Sign up for a new email list today >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you have any questions, problems, concerns, etc... please contact Liz at LArmstr853@..., Pat at Ape826@..., Dolly at DBC006@... or Beverly G at Bevalso@.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Hi Suzie, My name is Sherri Newman. My Mother died of CJD August 24, 1996. She, like your Mother, was a very healthy 60 year old woman. CJD took her life in 3 short months. I am in the process of writing her story for submission to " The Many Faces of CJD " . My heart goes out to you. I will add you to my list of people I pray for. Thank you for sharing. Sincerely, Sherri >From: Suzie717@... >Reply-To: cjdvoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com >To: cjdvoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com >Subject: Stress and CJD >Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 22:39:33 EST > >From: Suzie717@... > >My mother passed away on 9/22/97 from CJD. My mother was 68, healthy and >retired-----enjoying life. >In late March 1996, she was on jury duty ---the case was a Cocaine conviction. >She was sooooo upset that the jury didn't convict the person on trial due to > " not enough evidence " . During the deliberations, they had a sample of cocaine >on the table.......My mother kept saying, what other evidence do you want ???? >My mother was so against drugs.............and she was just soooooo upset, >that the other jurors didn't see it her way. The trial was a >Monday>>Thursday. That Friday, she complained about being extremely tired. >She saw her family doctor the following week. He ran the tests.........said >if she doesn't feel better in 1 week --he would admit her to the hosp. Well, >she wasn't feeling any better ----she was admitted ----all tests were neg. In >May, she saw a neurologist ------by now she is getting confused, forgetful, >scared, and unsteady walking......She started screaming and having >hallucinations the last week of May. She was admitted to hosp.------diagnosed >with CJD -----never walked again, never talked again, couldn't swallow etc. >etc. etc (you all know the story) She came home ---June 6th to a hosp. bed. >I do agree with everyone -----who thinks stress can trigger this deadly >disease. > >My parents were in England/Scotland etc in the late70's, early 80's. >I hope that we can help find out ---just what is going on.......with CJD... > >Thanks for CJD VOICE and thanks for all the e-mail.........It is a comfort.. >My thoughts and prayers and with all who are going through and all who have >been through this devastating disease............. >Sue (PA) > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >We are proud as punch of our new web site! >http://www.onelist.com >Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you have any questions, problems, concerns, etc... please contact Liz at LArmstr853@..., Pat at Ape826@..., Dolly at DBC006@... or Beverly G at Bevalso@.... Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Hi all- Have to jump in here! was transferred to Miami for a new job in October of 1997. Just before that, she was unhappy with her job here and her financial situation as she filed for bankruptcy. She had lived in Colorado her entire life, minus 3 years in Iowa where she was born and a 3 year stint in the Army, and when she moved, she was apart from the rest of our family (which is very close)! I think as she got more homesick and upset with that is when her symptoms began to really show up. Sounds like more than coincidence to me...maybe there is an outside trigger too...I guess that's why we all need each other -- to figure this out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 In a message dated 3/25/99 9:01:20 AM Central Standard Time, fgd222@... writes: << Reading about stress and CJD it has brought back all those horrible, guilt-ridden feelings again. This is not a good day for me.... Suzanne >> Suzanne, You mustn't feel guilty - you weren't responsible for your asthma attack and surely didn't want to get sick. And I know your mother would have wanted to care for you, no matter what. As a mother, I know that nothing could keep me from caring for my sick child, grown up or not. And knowing that it might not be good for my own health wouldn't stop me either. So you really didn't have control over that situation at all, and I know your mother wouldn't want you to have those guilt feelings. And she's probably happy now that the last thing she did on this earth was to help her daughter heal. Hoping you feel better, Yvette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Hi Everyone; I know of NO unusual stress prior to my husbands dianosis with CJD. He was alawys very calm and very few times during our 18 years of marriage did I see him STRESSED. Hope that helps. Actually iif we are alive in this world there will always be a certain amount of stress we will have. If stress were a factor in CJD, don't you think there would be a lot more cases? The more that I am hearing and reading about HEPARIN the more I feel like there should be a closer look into this. Maybe it didn't cause it, but could it have triggered it? I had round with the VA Hospital today. I, now have to write a lettre to the hospital adminstrator to see if I cannot claim my husbands records? Why do they want to keep them? After all he does not need them any longer. Why should they be stored in the ARCHIVES. What good will they do there? Pray for me that I will not get " stressed out " and stay cool and calm as I write this man. Thanks again for being there. Love you, Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Dear Suzanne, Please free yourself of that guilt you carry that you are the cause of your Mom's CJD. If anything is stressful in a persons life that is living with CJD it is knowing all that is happening to you and feeling helpless. It is being tested for things that you know are happening to you and then beginning told tests are negative. The disease it's self brings on stress, I am sure your mother would have traded places with you while you lied in the hospital near fatal condition. Her joy of your recovery the miracle of your life and the love she has for you and the faith she probably leaned on all but strengthen her. CJD killed your mom no part of you did. Her being infected by the killer disease is a mystery like so many of us that have lost our loved ones. I will especially hold you in my prayers. Your Mom would never want you to live with the guilt or burden that you caused her illness. God Bless you and keep talking about the guilt you are carrying. JILL Stress and CJD Dolly, Liz, etc... Re: Stress and CJD. My mother died from CJD on Dec. 10, 1998. Prior to the noticable symptoms she displayed at the end of October she, in most part, appeared fine. She did, over several months, mention leg pain, double vision, neck and shoulder pain, constipation, a sour taste in her mouth and insomnia. She had leg pain for several years, but thought it was arthritis. She was NEVER one to complain so she kept this to herself and only mentioned it in passing. She always kept active and hide her symptoms well. I have always believed stress caused my mom's CJD to happen. On Oct. 13th, she came to my house. I had a near fatal asthma attack. She had to call 911. In the ER I was paralyzed, intubated and put on a ventilator. I was in this condition for 3 days before waking up. I spent 5 more days in Critical Care. I returned home from the hospital on Oct. 21. She stayed with me to help me recuperate. By the end of the month she was hiding belongings making notes to where her things were, she was extremely confused, couldn't drive, turn on the television or shuffle and play cards.....From that point on it was downhill until her death. I had a TERRIBLE time dealing with the fact that maybe the stress of my illness caused my mother's CJD to become full blown. Doctor's at Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston assured me my illness was NOT the cause of my mother's CJD, but I NEVER believed them entirely. Reading about stress and CJD it has brought back all those horrible, guilt-ridden feelings again. This is not a good day for me.... Suzanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Good Attitude Suzanne! We can't beat ourselves over this! Saying, " We could have " - " We should have " - We all did everything that we could in our power! God does work in mysterious ways & HE took the life of our loves ones. WE DIDN'T!! The only regret I have was not telling my mom things that I wish I would have (ie.what a wonderful mom she was, tell her some personal stuff, ask her some personal stuff etc.) We were very close (only 20 yrs. apart) but unfortunately I wish we could have shared MORE things together. She knew I loved her so much! When she was sick I'd always hug/kiss her & told her how much I loved her. Sometimes it registered & sometimes it didn't (is my guess) At least I know she knew. I can't wait for the day that I'll see her again. I'm definately not afraid to die anymore. What doesn't kill us makes us STRONGER. Take Care, e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Betty, good luck. I also had that problem with my mom's medical records. I paid $ 50.00 to get a copy of her records. I knew damn well that they did not send me ALL of her records. (for 2 reasons) 1. I went over her records w/another doctor & he showed me a copy of my uncles death certificate along w/some other letters regarding my uncle. This was my mom's brother who also died of a " neurological " problem that was never diagnosed. He was in the service (army). I never got copies of any of this info. that I had previously glanced over quickly w/this doctor. 2. There were 2-3 tests that my mother had (that I was present w/her) that I also did not receive. I really wanted to see the results of those tests & was not able too. When I approached her doctor & told him of this, he said, " These are confidential & we are not allowed to release everything " He said he gave me only the records that they were allowed to release. Isn't that terrible. Withholding information that may be able to save our lives. It's like a puzzle & I wanted ALL the pieces! Oh well, when I have the time, that's something else that I will pursue. Take care, e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Dear All - My Dad was born in Western Kansas and lived in Kansas and Colorado for his entire life. He visited my family in Germany twice in the '80's for a total of 9 weeks. He never seemed to be stressed and especially so in his last couple of years when they moved out of Denver and into the country with us. He and Mom were married for 52 years. Shar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Hey - Haven't heard you on the voice for a while. Good to see your name on the signature line again. Hope you and your family are doing well. We have our good times and a few bad ones every so often. Enjoy the good weather, you know we're in for the bad again before May. Shar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 1999 Report Share Posted March 25, 1999 Hi Suzanne: Come on, Girlfriend, Look up God didn't leave you He's still there. Even through the STORMS, He promised to never leave you nor forsake you. You are just going through one of those STORMS today. Tomorrow will be better, just wait and see. We are having a real live thurnerstorm right now with all the trimmings. Lightning heavy rain, could be some hail ixed in. But guess what? Tomorrow the sun will shine. You get the message, don't you? Love You, Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 1999 Report Share Posted March 26, 1999 Kristi, My father had no stress other than raising three teenagers,my brother was a big source of stress. My father died at 43 and he was born in Pittsburgh,grew up in Florida,served in the airforce in New Mexico,spent years in Arizona and died a Texan in Houston after living here 9 years.At the time preceding his death he was running seven miles a day,his first symptom was he was losing his footing.He was largely of German heritage. Thanks.. Re: Stress and CJD >From: Kristi118@... > >Betty, good luck. I also had that problem with my mom's medical records. >I paid $ 50.00 to get a copy of her records. I knew damn well that they did >not send me ALL of her records. (for 2 reasons) 1. I went over her records >w/another doctor & he showed me a copy of my uncles death certificate along >w/some other letters regarding my uncle. This was my mom's brother who also >died of a " neurological " >problem that was never diagnosed. He was in the service (army). I never got >copies of any of this info. that I had previously glanced over quickly w/this >doctor. >2. There were 2-3 tests that my mother had (that I was present w/her) that I >also did not receive. I really wanted to see the results of those tests & was >not able too. >When I approached her doctor & told him of this, he said, " These are >confidential & we are not allowed to release everything " He said he gave me >only the records that >they were allowed to release. Isn't that terrible. Withholding information >that may be able to save our lives. It's like a puzzle & I wanted ALL the >pieces! Oh well, when I have the time, that's something else that I will >pursue. >Take care, >e > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Ta Da! Come see our new web site! >http://www.onelist.com >Onelist: A free email community service >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you have any questions, problems, concerns, etc... please contact Liz at LArmstr853@..., Pat at Ape826@..., Dolly at DBC006@... or Beverly G at Bevalso@.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 1999 Report Share Posted March 27, 1999 Kathy, great note. We should all try to understand the meaning of what you said and apply it to our lives. My wife Helen had cancer in 1993. Her positive attitude and prayer helped get her thru the cancer and the treatments. In July of last year she was given a clean bill of health, only to succumb to the prion invasion which started in August. The positive outlook of course did not help with CJD. Keep up with the good emails. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 1999 Report Share Posted March 27, 1999 Hi, everyone. Dolly placed me back on the onelist.First of all, thank you all so much for your support during our (Helen's and myself) bout with CJD. For those of you that are not aware, my wife Helen passed away on Feb 6 after being diagnosed with CJD on Dec 8. We, like many of you had extensive tests which started in Aug of 98 and continued till Dec.8,all of which were negative up till that date. The subject of stress is up for discussion. Without a doubt, ( but I can't prove it) Helen's CJD was activated by stress. Over the past several years there had been stress associated with family, work (owned her own travel agency) health and people that we knew. She was continually stressed out. Sleep for her was 3 or 4 hours a night. To bed at 11 up at 4. This went on for months prior to her getting sick. She worried about everything and if she didn't have a major worry, she would pull something up. I thing that s situation that we had with a neighbor, a boundary line problem, may have been the trigger. That situation upset me, and when she how it had affected me, she went into a state of depression. It seemed as I look back, it may have helped pull the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 1999 Report Share Posted March 27, 1999 I believe that everyone who has had CJD or is dealing with it now has some form of stress in their life. Now did the stress cause CJD. We could ask the same of every other disease. I do not think stress causes the disease. However the addition of streaa may increase the sumptoms of the disease process. It is like attitude. Many studies have been done in cancer patients. (which thankfully some of them are curable) These studies show if a person has a postiive attitude and believes the cancer treatment goes better. The percentage of people cured are greater. Which leads me to believe stress can aggrevate the symptoms of CJD, not necessarily bring them on. We each live our lives the best we can. Until they (CDC and Gov.) decide this horrid disease is worth their time, we must all come together to push for that. But let's not beat ourselves up over things we can not change. I am sure each of you loved your spouse, parent, brother, sister or child, and would have given your life to save them. I know I would for my dad suffering today. But I can not. So I'll just show him as much love as I can and cherish the time I have left with him. It is sad, we can't change the past, but we can change the future. Slow down, look at life, love your friends and family. Life is too short. Sorry for the length, I just want each of you to look forward. Don't forget the past but live to the future. life is too short. I lost a dear friend at the age of 37 yesterday. He had a massive stroke. He left behind 2 children 6 months and 3 yrs and his wife. He cherished his family and took time with them. I will miss him dearly, but I learned a valuable lesson. Kathy ICQ 2551093 p.s Sorry for the length, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 1999 Report Share Posted March 27, 1999 In a message dated 3/27/99 1:09:25 PM Central Standard Time, flounder@... writes: << Answer: Yes, stress brings on significant changes in the levels of certain stress hormones. The hormones enter the blood stream and impact many organs in the body, including the brain. >> Right on target, Terry. Thanks again! I think what we're considering here is not that stress CAUSES CJD, but that it might allow the prion replication process to ACCELERATE. In other words, the CJD was already there due to infection by one of the many means we have discussed, but stress was kind of " the final straw " . Yvette p.s. CAPS ARE CONTAGIOUS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 1999 Report Share Posted March 27, 1999 I have been following this issue, and have not comented, but my Mom was under an enormous amount of stress, do to various reasons, when the devil crept up....... Saw this article in the Houston Chronicle Today, thought it would fit into this discussion: This Weekend Health... STRESS CAN AT TIMES BE THE CAUSE OF ILLNESS Mental Notes, Dr. Baker Question: You keep writing about how depression is a medical problem caused by genes. But I think my depression came on after I was in a stressful job. I went on medication, but I think my problem got better from changing jobs, not from the taking pills. Don't you think some problems can be due to stress??? Answer: Yes, stress brings on significant changes in the levels of certain stress hormones. The hormones enter the blood stream and impact many organs in the body, including the brain. Once in the brain, stress hormones act like a light switch to turn on the genes that cause clinical depression. The same stress hormones can trigger other medical diseases, too, including heart disease, breathing problems and some neurological diseases. By the way, you are correct that jobs can be stressful. A recent laboratory study of " rat society " shows subordinate rats have a lot more stress than their boss rats. The rat race is indeed stressful!!! VILIK64@... wrote: > From: VILIK64@... > > Hi, everyone. Dolly placed me back on the onelist.First of all, thank you all > so much for your support during our (Helen's and myself) bout with CJD. For > those of you that are not aware, my wife Helen passed away on Feb 6 after > being diagnosed with CJD on Dec 8. We, like many of you had extensive tests > which started in Aug of 98 and continued till Dec.8,all of which were negative > up till that date. > > The subject of stress is up for discussion. Without a doubt, ( but I can't > prove it) Helen's CJD was activated by stress. Over the past several years > there had been stress associated with family, work (owned her own travel > agency) health and people that we knew. She was continually stressed out. > Sleep for her was 3 or 4 hours a night. To bed at 11 up at 4. This went on for > months prior to her getting sick. She worried about everything and if she > didn't have a major worry, she would pull something up. I thing that s > situation that we had with a neighbor, a boundary line problem, may have been > the trigger. That situation upset me, and when she how it had affected me, she > went into a state of depression. It seemed as I look back, it may have helped > pull the trigger. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > We have a new web site! > http://www.onelist.com > Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > If you have any questions, problems, concerns, etc... please contact Liz at LArmstr853@..., Pat at Ape826@..., Dolly at DBC006@... or Beverly G at Bevalso@.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 1999 Report Share Posted March 27, 1999 EXACTLY!!!!!! YMRPike@... wrote: > From: YMRPike@... > > In a message dated 3/27/99 1:09:25 PM Central Standard Time, flounder@... > writes: > > << > Answer: Yes, stress brings on significant changes in the levels of certain > stress hormones. The hormones enter the blood stream and impact many organs in > the body, including the brain. >> > > Right on target, Terry. Thanks again! I think what we're considering here is > not that stress CAUSES CJD, but that it might allow the prion replication > process to ACCELERATE. In other words, the CJD was already there due to > infection by one of the many means we have discussed, but stress was kind of > " the final straw " . > > Yvette > p.s. CAPS ARE CONTAGIOUS!! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Did you know that we have over 85,000 e-mail communities at Onelist? > http://www.onelist.com > Come visit our new web site and explore a new interest > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > If you have any questions, problems, concerns, etc... please contact Liz at LArmstr853@..., Pat at Ape826@..., Dolly at DBC006@... or Beverly G at Bevalso@.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 1999 Report Share Posted March 27, 1999 Thanks for the article, Terry. With all that's happened in the last two years with Dad and his passing, with big problems at work and family stress ( the good kind!), I find that I have been not doing well. I have had headaches, migraines and illness this winter. My family has been encouraging me to change jobs or quit. I think you are all right! Maybe it's time to look out for me. Someone else will just have to step in for me. Thank you for the nudge. Shar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 1999 Report Share Posted March 27, 1999 Kathy, very well said!! How do you get on with your life? It's been 3 months since my mom past away & we still can't get on with our lives. My mom kept our family together & now it's torn apart. We're not as close as we use to be. I'd rather be dead then alive. Being the oldest of 4 children it's now my responsibility to hold down the fort. (cook meals, do bills, drive family members places etc.) I don't mind doing this but I keep telling myself that my mom needs to do these things!! She needs to be here to take care of my dad & her other children. I hate my life without her. It's empty. It's lonely. It's meaningless. e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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