Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 As has been reported here MANY TIMES, this is not a biblical verse! I can eat enough carrots at one sitting to be ENOUGH carrots, and my next pre-meal Bg is still in normal range or lower.....I can eat almost every pasta dish in a quantity to fill me up--a cup to 2 cups-- has little effect on my Bg....but the next guy will go over the top....Just remember you each must test for each food..... [alldiabeticinternational] Carrots I went to see my diabetic team Friday and learned something. I suppose it is something you all knew-but I have been on insulin only2 months so am still learning. I have been munching on carrots sticks, bunches of them. Carrots are high in sugar. Couldn't understand that...all root vegetables are high in sugar. Beets, turnips, potatoes, etc. They are low in calories, so if it just a weight lose program people want and need then carrots are a go but for us diabetics then carrots are a no. Celery is the option I will have to learn to like. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 In a message dated 7/18/2004 5:47:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, Mazdarunner@... writes: Carrots are high in sugar. Couldn't understand that...all root vegetables are high in sugar. Beets, turnips, potatoes, etc. They are low in calories, so if it just a weight lose program people want and need then carrots are a go but for us diabetics then carrots are a no. Celery is the option I will have to learn to like. M Hi , yes they are high in sugar. My dietician just said to be moderate with them, did not outlaw them. I am not on insulin though, and do not have to be as tightly controlled as you. Celery is great for you! I read once it was a minus on the carb, calorie thing that they had worked out. As I love crisp celery, that was good news to me! Hugs, Marilyn Marilyn Moderator for Diabetic_Recipes dnevessr@... Opinions expressed are solely my own and should not be mistaken for Professional advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 In a message dated 7/18/2004 7:00:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, BIGUTE-HORT@... writes: As has been reported here MANY TIMES, this is not a biblical verse! I can eat enough carrots at one sitting to be ENOUGH carrots, and my next pre-meal Bg is still in normal range or lower.....I can eat almost every pasta dish in a quantity to fill me up--a cup to 2 cups-- has little effect on my Bg....but the next guy will go over the top....Just remember you each must test for each food..... Thanks for saying it again ;-) I know people are confused by this, and we must not give up on teaching them. They will never be able to " stick " with a diet (or lifestyle) that is so restrictive, without serious side affects like depression and binging. I have seen it over and over, please, do the testing, learn like this says, it only serves to help you and to give you freedom. Love, Marilyn Marilyn Moderator for Diabetic_Recipes dnevessr@... Opinions expressed are solely my own and should not be mistaken for Professional advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 hi linda! hehe...i hate both carrots and celery...so what can i say? but no seriously, i had a thought...it's probably better to think *carbs* than *sugar.* for example, one dietician i saw recommended xylitol as a sugar substitute, assuring me it didn't raise blood glucose, but that was not true i was loathe to discover. xylitol still has carbs even though it's a sugar alcohol and *not sugar* (about half that of table sugar). also, you should be able to eat carrots. the thing is calculating how many carbs in carrots you are eating and then calculating an appropriate dose of insulin to cover it. although, since it's only been 2 months...i might guess that it hasn't been figured out yet what insulin to carb ratio is best for you...or what your basal insulin should be. or maybe even what insulin or insulins you should be on. when i first started, i was given only rapid-acting insulin for mealtimes. that didn't work too well, so then they added a long- acting one to the program. i know other people who seem to get by on just long-acting insulin. just some thoughts, rach > I went to see my diabetic team Friday and learned something. I suppose it is > something you all knew-but I have been on insulin only2 months so am still > learning. I have been munching on carrots sticks, bunches of them. Carrots are > high in sugar. Couldn't understand that...all root vegetables are high in > sugar. Beets, turnips, potatoes, etc. They are low in calories, so if it just > a weight lose program people want and need then carrots are a go but for us > diabetics then carrots are a no. Celery is the option I will have to learn to > like. M > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 hey marilyn, a question - what does it mean to be more tightly controlled when on insulin? does that mean counting carbs more carefully? 'cuz i was just thinking, that the amount of carbs i can eat seems to be pretty high comparatively. definitely over 45 g. my biggest difficulties come in form it seems. liquid carbs - even from whole fruit (as opposed to juice) - are really tough (i guess because of the fast spike they produce) and rice (which can be packed down, and sort of throw my counting off). the rest of my variability seems to me not to be food related. rach I am not on insulin though, and do not have to be as tightly controlled as you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 In a message dated 7/18/2004 1:55:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, rfong_tom3@... writes: question - what does it mean to be more tightly controlled when on insulin? does that mean counting carbs more carefully? 'cuz i was just thinking, that the amount of carbs i can eat seems to be pretty high comparatively. definitely over 45 g. my biggest difficulties come in form it seems. liquid carbs - even from whole fruit (as opposed to juice) - are really tough (i guess because of the fast spike they produce) and rice (which can be packed down, and sort of throw my counting off). Hi Rach, What I meant by that is because you have to count so closely so you can be insulin correct. At least this is my understanding. I have never been on insulin. I understand from the doctors, every diabetic will eventually get there as the pancreas fails. This is just what I have been told, no personal experience. This is why I love the groups so much, it is a great education! Huhs,Marilyn Marilyn Moderator for Diabetic_Recipes dnevessr@... Opinions expressed are solely my own and should not be mistaken for Professional advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 I'm with on this one, but I might be dumb---How about no sugar? I bought some splenda (after going 7 years with none) and I guess I have had some on strawberries and some other things, but I got used to no sugar...ROLF [alldiabeticinternational] Re: Carrots hi linda! hehe...i hate both carrots and celery...so what can i say? but no seriously, i had a thought...it's probably better to think *carbs* than *sugar.* for example, one dietician i saw recommended xylitol as a sugar substitute, assuring me it didn't raise blood glucose, but that was not true i was loathe to discover. xylitol still has carbs even though it's a sugar alcohol and *not sugar* (about half that of table sugar). also, you should be able to eat carrots. the thing is calculating how many carbs in carrots you are eating and then calculating an appropriate dose of insulin to cover it. although, since it's only been 2 months...i might guess that it hasn't been figured out yet what insulin to carb ratio is best for you...or what your basal insulin should be. or maybe even what insulin or insulins you should be on. when i first started, i was given only rapid-acting insulin for mealtimes. that didn't work too well, so then they added a long- acting one to the program. i know other people who seem to get by on just long-acting insulin. just some thoughts, rach > I went to see my diabetic team Friday and learned something. I suppose it is > something you all knew-but I have been on insulin only2 months so am still > learning. I have been munching on carrots sticks, bunches of them. Carrots are > high in sugar. Couldn't understand that...all root vegetables are high in > sugar. Beets, turnips, potatoes, etc. They are low in calories, so if it just > a weight lose program people want and need then carrots are a go but for us > diabetics then carrots are a no. Celery is the option I will have to learn to > like. M > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 That is correct...and because you can get lows when you are on insulin. As for the difficulties you experience.....Check on whether your carbs you are using are simple or complex carbs/sugars/starches. Eating complex carbs extends the life of the carb and it takes longer for your liver to process and turn into glucose......The simple carbs are utilized by the liver almost instantly......ROLF [alldiabeticinternational] Re: Carrots hey marilyn, a question - what does it mean to be more tightly controlled when on insulin? does that mean counting carbs more carefully? 'cuz i was just thinking, that the amount of carbs i can eat seems to be pretty high comparatively. definitely over 45 g. my biggest difficulties come in form it seems. liquid carbs - even from whole fruit (as opposed to juice) - are really tough (i guess because of the fast spike they produce) and rice (which can be packed down, and sort of throw my counting off). the rest of my variability seems to me not to be food related. rach I am not on insulin though, and do not have to be as tightly controlled as you. pancreatitis info http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ThePancreatitisPlace/ diabetic recipes http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetic_recipes/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 ah ha. thanks rolf, marilyn. yes, that's what's so great about a group like this - opportunity to ask questions to make sure you understand the answers to the first question! i love how lively this group is! (hehe. i'm getting old, i think ailments are a great topic of conversation.) rach > Hi Rach, What I meant by that is because you have to count so closely so you > can be insulin correct. At least this is my understanding. I have never been > on insulin. I understand from the doctors, every diabetic will eventually > get there as the pancreas fails. This is just what I have been told, no > personal experience. This is why I love the groups so much, it is a great education! > Huhs,Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Yes Carrots are one of the highest on the Gycemic Index. -- " The conscious mind allows itself to be trained like a parrot, but the unconscious does not - which is why St. Augustine thanked God for not making him responsible for his dreams. " --Carl Jung > From: Mazdarunner@... > Reply-To: alldiabeticinternational > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:46:06 EDT > To: alldiabeticinternational > Subject: [alldiabeticinternational] Carrots > > I went to see my diabetic team Friday and learned something. I suppose it is > something you all knew-but I have been on insulin only2 months so am still > learning. I have been munching on carrots sticks, bunches of them. Carrots > are > high in sugar. Couldn't understand that...all root vegetables are high in > sugar. Beets, turnips, potatoes, etc. They are low in calories, so if it > just > a weight lose program people want and need then carrots are a go but for us > diabetics then carrots are a no. Celery is the option I will have to learn to > like. M > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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