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Hi Alice Ann, I do have questions. One do you use splenda or artificial

sweeteners.? Did they have any effect on your weight loss? I have been on

Atkins for about 3 weeks now with only 3 pounds lost in the first few days.

I am getting frustrated. I tried dropping all veggies. No loss , I became

depressed and irritable. So I added yesterday 2 1/2 cup servings of veggies

and not so much cheese. I also had a serving of cheesecake made with splenda

whip cream and cream with knox gelatin and koolaid for flavoring. I drank

lots of water. Got up all thru the night , I just knew my scale would be

budged.....but no loss. I have been here now too long. What do you think?...

I should add, I started on a low calorie diet Aug 25 then switched to

somersizing losing from 201 to 173....then atkins going from 173 to 169 and

yo yoing that loss for 3 weeks.....Jean The average loss looks good per

month but I lost 20 pounds in the first 3 weeks....

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In a message dated 10/12/99 9:58:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

bbkl@... writes:

<< I just found this list...started reading the book yesterday, and started

induction. >>

Hello and welcome to the list !!!!!!!!!!!!

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You can buy splenda at www.splenda.com go into the diabetic section and you

can order from there. As for the carbs....I have eaten them in the form of

cheese and cream...not veggies. Do you think that's it. Yesterday I started

adding coleslaw and I had some okra. No, I won't give up. If I maintain this

weight it is better than 201. I just don't want to be where I can' t eat

anything or gain gain gain again. So, we'll see......Jean

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Hi Camilla Jean

I found that I didn't lose as much weight if I didn't eat enough of the

allowed carbs. Also I seemed to lose like a kick start if I had tuna

salad on letuce. It could have just been me but try it. Women do have a

harder time with weight loss, we were created to keep the fat to use to

feed babies, Men were made to use it in the fields, they lose easily. I

found that too much fat just gave false ketone levels so use the fat in

moderation. Let me know if I can help more.

AlyceAnn

PS DON'T GIVE UP, IT WORKS!! AND ITS GOOD FOR YOU!!!

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<< what about stevia...where can that be bought? >>

It can be bought online, in your local GNC if you have one and in health food

stores. It is sold as a supplement, not as an artificial sweetener. Teena

:o)

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<< what about stevia...where can that be bought? >>

It can be bought online, in your local GNC if you have one and in health food

stores. It is sold as a supplement, not as an artificial sweetener. Teena

:o)

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<< what about stevia...where can that be bought? >>

It can be bought online, in your local GNC if you have one and in health food

stores. It is sold as a supplement, not as an artificial sweetener. Teena

:o)

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I use stevia, as I have heard so much (wrong) about Fake sweeteners, it

taste like nutrasweet but I am getting used to how much to use and I guess I

am getting used to it, the health food store was the only place that I ever

see it, they sell it in liquid and packets and a bottle, I have the packets

so I can keep some in my pocketbook when I go out and I get unsweet tea, i

have had people ask where I get them... anyway good luck, Love Heidi

Re: Introduction

> From: CoalCall@...

>

> what about stevia...where can that be bought?

>

> > Big and Beutiful is a state of mind, Never let anyone tell you different.

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Just about any helth food store and GNC

--- CoalCall@... wrote:

> what about stevia...where can that be bought?

>

>

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> Big and Beutiful is a state of mind, Never let

> anyone tell you different.

>

>

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:) Sue List Manager 310/260.5/180 255 by 10/31

Wilmington Delaware

Low carb link with info and recipes.http://members.xoom.com/Shadcat708/LC.html

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I got so caught up in my intro that I forgot the most important part.

I'm a 32 year old SAHM of two wonderful children, a 7 year old girl and a

soon-to-be 5 year old boy. Oh yeah, better mention the hubby, he's pretty

wonderful too (most of the time). LOL And last but not least, we live in

Northwest Indiana. Any other Hoosiers on this list? One more thing, my stats

are 263/211*/150. I put the star by the 211 because I have been down to 211

once, so I am claiming that as my weight. But like I mentioned in my

introduction, I have been bouncing a lot since August. Anywhere from 211 to

218. I will shut up now.

@)--`-,--Toni- ---,-`--(@

" Corn is for cattle and potatoes are for pigs. "

Introduction

Hello,

I'm new to this list but I am a long time member of other low carb lists.

I guess I thought I needed more email. ;0) Looks like I came to the right

place! I just finished reading my 400 or so posts that I downloaded since

yesterday. Wow!! You are a chatty bunch.

I have been on Atkins since September 24th of last year ('98). In that

time I have lost 52 pounds!! I am very happy with my weight loss but am getting

a little frustrated with current stalls and/or bouncing scale syndrome. I have

a lot more to lose and just wish that I could get moving again. Maybe someone

on this list will have a tip that I haven't yet tried to get some more of my

pounds to leave. I am getting desperate to try anything at this point.

Temptations are easier to resist when the weight is coming off at a nice steady

pace. Since it has been almost two months since I have actually seen a new low

weight, I am beginning to enter that danger zone of thinking, " Well, since I

haven't been losing anyway, one _________ won't hurt. " You fill in the blank

with whatever temptation is hardest for you to resist and I think you will get

my point. Anyway, I am hoping to make some new cyber friends here and continue

friendships with others who I " know " already from other lists.

Happy Low Carbing,

@)--`-,--Toni- ---,-`--(@

" Corn is for cattle and potatoes are for pigs. "

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Toni,

We have a person on the list, Marilyn, who does 2 different diets, she does

Atkins for 2 weeks and then the YMCA Diet for 2 weeks, it seems to work for

her. Maybe you can inquire what she is doing exactly. I forget what the YMCA

diet is. Sorry Marilyn!! :o)

Hugs

Penny---Ohio

173/157/130

Goal for Oct 31st-----155

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Toni,

We have a person on the list, Marilyn, who does 2 different diets, she does

Atkins for 2 weeks and then the YMCA Diet for 2 weeks, it seems to work for

her. Maybe you can inquire what she is doing exactly. I forget what the YMCA

diet is. Sorry Marilyn!! :o)

Hugs

Penny---Ohio

173/157/130

Goal for Oct 31st-----155

List Co-Moderator---ICQ#51429926

http://members.xoom.com/Shadcat708/LC.html

http://www.geocities.com/shadcat708/The__Home.html

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Toni,

We have a person on the list, Marilyn, who does 2 different diets, she does

Atkins for 2 weeks and then the YMCA Diet for 2 weeks, it seems to work for

her. Maybe you can inquire what she is doing exactly. I forget what the YMCA

diet is. Sorry Marilyn!! :o)

Hugs

Penny---Ohio

173/157/130

Goal for Oct 31st-----155

List Co-Moderator---ICQ#51429926

http://members.xoom.com/Shadcat708/LC.html

http://www.geocities.com/shadcat708/The__Home.html

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In a message dated 10/17/99 6:20:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jaimee@... writes:

<< I found this stuff today.....jean >>

Thanks Jean!

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In a message dated 10/17/99 6:10:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

toni@... writes:

<< I have been on Atkins since September 24th of last year ('98). In that

time I have lost 52 pounds!! >>

Hello and welcome to the list Toni!

Sounds like you are doing great at this way of eating (WOE). You will find

that we are a very supportive but talkative group. Hope you like alot of mail.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask and someone will try to

find an answer for you. Penny has created a website with a lot of great

information on it, it has some information about breaking a stall. You may

want to look at it. The link is listed below my signature.

Also, you can go to www.onelist.com and sign in for this list. In the file

section there is a low carb cookbook with over 500 recipes in it.

List Co-Moderator

North Carolina

170/137/125

4/9/99

Low carb Sites

http://members.xoom.com/Shadcat708/LC.html " >Penny's Low Carb Links</

A>

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Welcome Toni yes we are a chatty bunch lol I am in

the same boat you are lost 50 lbs and yo yo bouncey

scale too. I started at 310 or about that was as

high as my scale would go, i am curently down to 260

and stuck been here for about a month wnat to get

to 175 180 by May of 200. welcome to the list any

problems let me and my moderators know.

--- the Armstrongs toni@...> wrote:

I got so caught up in my

intro that I forgot the

most important part.

I'm a 32 year old SAHM of

two wonderful children, a

7 year old girl and a soon-to-be 5 year old

boy. Oh yeah, better mention

the hubby, he's pretty wonderful too (most of the

time). LOL

And last but not least, we live in Northwest

Indiana. Any

other Hoosiers on this list? One more thing, my

stats are

263/211*/150. I put the star by the 211 because

I have been down to 211

once, so I am claiming that as my weight. But

like I mentioned in my

introduction, I have been bouncing a lot since

August. Anywhere from 211

to 218. I will shut up now.

@)--`-,--Toni- ---,-`--(@ " Corn is for cattle

and potatoes are for

pigs. "

Introduction

Hello,

I'm

new to this list but I am

a long time member of other low carb

lists. I guess I thought I

needed more email. ;0) Looks like I

came to the right

place! I just finished reading my 400 or so

posts that I downloaded

since yesterday. Wow!! You are a

chatty bunch.

I have been on Atkins

since September 24th of last year ('98). In

that time I have lost

52 pounds!! I am very happy

with my weight loss but am

getting a little frustrated with current stalls

and/or bouncing scale

syndrome. I have a lot more to lose and just

wish that I could get

moving again. Maybe someone on this list

will have a tip that I

haven't yet tried to get some more of my pounds to

leave. I am

getting desperate to try anything at

this point. Temptations

are easier to resist when the weight is coming

off at a nice steady

pace. Since it has been almost two months

since I have actually seen a

new low weight, I am beginning to enter

that danger zone of

thinking, " Well, since I haven't been losing

anyway, one _________

won't hurt. " You fill in the blank with

whatever temptation is

hardest for you to resist and I think you will

get my point.

Anyway, I am hoping to make some new cyber friends

here and continue

friendships with others who I " know " already from

other

lists.

Happy Low

Carbing,

@)--`-,--Toni-

---,-`--(@ " Corn is for cattle

and potatoes are for pigs. "

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Being Big and Beautiful is a state of mind, Never let

anyone tell you different.

>

=====

:) Sue List Manager 310/260.5/180 255 by 10/31

Wilmington Delaware

Low carb link with info and recipes.http://members.xoom.com/Shadcat708/LC.html

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I found this stuff today.....jean

The list below will help you to identify your own personal diet saboteurs. If

there are some that you really hate to give up, start with those that are

easier. If this takes care of the problem then you're home free. If not, then

begin eliminating the others one by one. When you're satisfied with your

progress you can stop eliminating things or keep going to stay on track with a

healthier lifestyle. The bold items are things that are a good idea to eliminate

regardless of whether or not you can " get away with it " .

NOTE: Because this website is not intended to provide a comprehensive education

I will not always explain why a certain rule, technique or suggestion is given.

For more information go to the book page where you'll find many books that will

give you the information you need, as well as some great recipe books (many of

which are difficult to find in a bookstore).

1.. Some medications especially heavy duty tranquilizers, diet pills, long

term anti-depressants, diuretics , birth control, estrogen, and antibiotics can

interfere with your metabolism, thus halting or slowing weight loss. Check with

your doctor to see if any medication(s) you're taking could be the problem and

if there is something else you could take. If you've been on the UnDiet for two

or more weeks you might want to ask your doctor to retest you to see if you

still need the medication(s) or if you need the same dosage.

2.. A thyroid condition can slow or stop weight loss. A simple at home test

for a thyroid condition is to take your temperature under your arm within ten

minutes of waking up in the morning. An underarm temperature below 97.8 suggests

hypothyroidism or hypometabolism. Of course whether you test negative or

positive, make sure you check with your doctor.

3.. Eliminate or at least cut back on potatoes, bread, rice, pasta and other

starches until you begin to lose again or until you reach your goal weight.

4.. If you're on the Protein Blast make sure that you're counting your

carbohydrates correctly. Read labels, write down everything you eat in a day,

for several days and have a friend check your list for hidden carbohydrates.

5.. Check your diet for hidden sugars and ruthlessly eliminate them!

6.. Check labels for sugars, corn syrup solids and high fructose corn syrup

and even more ruthlessly eliminate them!

7.. Caffeinated drinks lower your metabolism, switch to decaf.

8.. Diet sodas, diet gelatins, powdered diet drinks and many other

prepackaged diet and " sugar free " foods contain aspartame or sucrose which slows

or halts weight loss in many people. Substitute non-alcoholic beer which is a

Starch, Arrowhead fruit-flavored mineral waters (other mineral waters contain

sweeteners & Starches) work with all meal plans, or distilled water with a

squeeze of fresh lemon or lime juice.

9.. Don't use more than 6 tablespoons of heavy cream in your coffee in a

day. This isn't a hard and fast rule, but if you're having trouble losing

weight this could be the culprit.

10.. If you're not exercising at all, or exercising very little, you may

need to add some physical activity to your routine to continue losing weight. To

raise your metabolism so that you're burning calories all day long you need to

exercise 20-30 minutes at an intensity that has you sweating within 7-12 minutes

into your workout.

11.. You shouldn't be consuming more than one 12 ounce beer and one to two 4

ounce glasses of dry wine a day. Even then, if you're trying to lose, consuming

alcohol on a daily basis can be a saboteur.

12.. Switch UnDiet plans. The best choice is to switch to Produce Power for

one to two weeks or make it a regular part of your lifestyle by eating Produce

Power one or two days a week. However if you're using Produce Power you can

switch to Protein Blast. If you're on the Protein Blast and have hit a plateau

it often helps to switch to eating Fruit in the morning and Veggies and Starches

the rest of the day, in other words eliminating Proteins for 3-5 days. When you

start losing again go back to your plan of choice.

13.. Chewing gum contains either sugar or aspartame. Eliminate it when your

trying to lose.

14.. You may be metabolically resistant. This can occur especially if you

are severely overweight and/or have yo-yo dieted in the past. The Fat Blast can

be the ticket into kicking you into a downward spiral on your scale. The Fat

Blast gives you even faster results than total fasting. Isn't that incredible -

you can eat and lose weight faster than when you're not eating. Note: Do not

stay on the Fat Blast for more than five days.

If your question was not answered by the above then feel free to e-mail your

question. Some questions may be published with the accompanying answer on the

FAQ page.

back to Fat Blast | Home | Book list | e-mail

Introduction | Health Benefits | Forbidden Foods | Food List | Getting Started |

Quick Start | Basic Plan | Produce Power | Protein Blast | Family Plan | Step By

Step Plan | Fat Blast | Substitute List | Recipe Index | Convert Your Favorite

Recipes

This site was created by Out Of Your Mind Graphic & Web Design a division of

K.C.O. Marketing Services for The UnDiet kathleane@...

last revised April 20, 1999

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Marina.

Don't let people get you down about your new WOL!! I don't argue about it any

more, I think I show them how good this WOL is just by how I look and feel,

ALthough I am not down to goal yet, I am healthier than I ever was on any

other diet or even when I was just eating what ever I wanted. Just let it

show through you, don't worry about what they say, You know in your heart

this is the right thing for you!!

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Goal for Oct 31st-----155

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Sue,

I think at the beginning of each digest is a table of contents type thing.

Also if you sign in on onelist and go to messages for our list there is a

table there too.

Welcome to the list and good luck!!!

Hugs

Penny---Ohio

173/156.5/130

Goal for TG ----- 154

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In a message dated 11/5/99 9:23:13 PM Central Standard Time,

sulandherb@... writes:

<< Hi all! I'm new to this community. My name is Sue, and I'm almost done

with my second week on the induction diet. Slightly confused as to how these

boards work, and your input would be appreciated! Is there any way of

knowing whats in each digest without reading them all? I'd hate to repeat

someones question and bore you all! >>

Howdy Sue,

Welcome!! Never a bore!! We have newbies here all the time and they want

to learn this woe just as we did at one time. Remember everyone was new at

this at one time or another!

Sheila In Texas

187/180/135

HAPPY THANKSGIVING

GOAL 5LBS BY

THANKSGIVING

1DOWN---4 TO GO

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Hi Larry,

Thanks for introducing yourself, and welcome to the group.

I have CMT type 2 with no atrophy and I have low arches. LOL

You sound much more like a CMTer than I do.

I've always been different!!

Have you visted the SCA chat room? I haven't, but I know that chat rooms can

be very helpful and supportive. We also have a couple of SCA folks who

sometimes join us in the CMT chat room at MGH. I have the URLs if anyone is

interested.

Regards,

Kat

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Hi! Kat! It's taking a little time to learn my way around in here. I

sent my intro a little prematurely. When i was diagnosed no genes had

been mapped yet and the only symtoms that had manifested were signs

that appeared to be ataxia.

I take no meds and mine has affected mostly my feet and leg's.Mine was

considered to be a mild case. But over the years walking has become

difficult. I also use the MGH forum and talked to SCAers and the few

CMTer's that go there. I can relate to SCAer's but theCMTer's hit home.

I seem to be the only one in my family affected by this disease.

Larry

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