Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 Jerry--Welcome to group. Wit aside, I used Dr. Mark Breiner in Connecticut to remove my amalgams in the early nineties and used the oral Hal Huggins protocol. I used DMPS IV, ten over a month or two, and now am trying to chelate with low dose ALA and DMSA. I have CFS and MCS. I was diagnosed with Neurally Mediated Hypotension at s Hopkins. This seemed to follow the first placement of fillings (over ten) at age 19. There is a Dr. Sprinkle in my area (now Texas due to family work situation) whom I plan to vist for cleaning, etc. SJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 Jerry--Welcome to group. Wit aside, I used Dr. Mark Breiner in Connecticut to remove my amalgams in the early nineties and used the oral Hal Huggins protocol. I used DMPS IV, ten over a month or two, and now am trying to chelate with low dose ALA and DMSA. I have CFS and MCS. I was diagnosed with Neurally Mediated Hypotension at s Hopkins. This seemed to follow the first placement of fillings (over ten) at age 19. There is a Dr. Sprinkle in my area (now Texas due to family work situation) whom I plan to vist for cleaning, etc. SJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 In a message dated 2/8/02 7:38:36 PM Central Standard Time, jmittelman@... writes: << I question the values of a DDS who'd use a drug like Demerol in this case. >> Ok, what is the best protocol for a large surface cavity in a 3 year old? It is on the back of one of her front teeth and the tooth is getting thin. I refused flouride gel last year and the cavity has gotten noticably worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 The surgery is less than 2 months away and I was starting to feel overwhelmed. You all were a Godsend last night. Thank you : ) U DIDNT MENTION YOUR SONS NAME...BUT GIVE HIM A KISS FOR US ALL.. AND GODSPPED HIS RECOVERY! JACK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 I have been on it for 4 months Improvements are gradual as well Sometimes you don't know if it is helping or not My recovery from fatigue seems better, my brain fog is down Cheers (unknown) I was wondering if anyone out there has every gotten better from mercury poisoning without the use of medications like DSMP or DMSA. I have been really sick for a while now. I finally figured out what was killing me - my fillings. After I had them removed, I started on Garlic, etc. I am feeling better now, but the process seems too slow. I'm not sure if what I'm doing is safe. Anyway, any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jim Kelley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 I improved immensly after the dead teeth were removed and the cavitations cleaned but I still had problems on the left side with constrictions in the cold weather. I took some cilantro to get the mercury out of my brain and dumped a huge amount so now I am back where I started until I can get this out of my head and body and I am working on it but it will take a long time to get it out. It is a long process but I have heard of people that have recovered completely. (unknown) > > > I was wondering if anyone out there has every gotten better from > > mercury poisoning without the use of medications like DSMP or DMSA. > > > > I have been really sick for a while now. I finally figured out what > > was killing me - my fillings. After I had them removed, I started > on > > Garlic, etc. I am feeling better now, but the process seems too > slow. > > I'm not sure if what I'm doing is safe. > > > > Anyway, any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Jim Kelley. > > Jim , yes I have improved a lot without the use of DMSA DMPS, ALA etc > and continue to get better. > > I still feel the effects of mercury but it is very toxic obviously > and difficult to get a complete reversal or 100% recovery. I have > only been completely mercury free for about 13 months so the jury > is still out in my case. > > If you read liefs frequently asked questions which is well known > web site answering mercury questions he quotes the swedish patient > organization for mercury victims as saying that time and cessastion > of exposure is the main factor in recovery. He also states that > some people do feel much better with chelators, many feel no affect, > and some suffer long lasting adverse reactions. > > Obviously it is very difficulty to make absolute statements about > treatments because people are affected in different ways by mercury > in the first place. If you try a treatment for a year you will > attribute all improvement to that treatment no matter what. On the > other hand if you try no treatments but improve, how do you know that > you wouldn't have gotten much better faster with a certain treatment. > > My advice: > I think the most important factor to look for is consistent measurable > improvement. You will know if you are getting better. If you improve > enough each week so that it is noticeable to you, even if you feel > like complete crap for six months, then eventually you will improve a > lot. If you are moderately poisoned, removing the source correctly, > cleaning cavitations etc should produce this effect. So remove your > amalgams and wait. After six months of hopefully steady improvement, > you will be stronger and in a position to withstand and make > decisions about other treatments. Then at that point you can continue > the recovery process in the way you think is best. > > cz > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2002 Report Share Posted April 27, 2002 > > > I was wondering if anyone out there has every gotten better from > > > mercury poisoning without the use of medications like DSMP or DMSA. > > > > > > I have been really sick for a while now. I finally figured out what > > > was killing me - my fillings. After I had them removed, I started > > on > > > Garlic, etc. I am feeling better now, but the process seems too > > slow. > > > I'm not sure if what I'm doing is safe. > > > > > > Anyway, any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jim Kelley. > > > > Jim , yes I have improved a lot without the use of DMSA DMPS, ALA etc > > and continue to get better. > > > > I still feel the effects of mercury but it is very toxic obviously > > and difficult to get a complete reversal or 100% recovery. I have > > only been completely mercury free for about 13 months so the jury > > is still out in my case. > > > > If you read liefs frequently asked questions which is well known > > web site answering mercury questions he quotes the swedish patient > > organization for mercury victims as saying that time and cessastion > > of exposure is the main factor in recovery. He also states that > > some people do feel much better with chelators, many feel no affect, > > and some suffer long lasting adverse reactions. > > > > Obviously it is very difficulty to make absolute statements about > > treatments because people are affected in different ways by mercury > > in the first place. If you try a treatment for a year you will > > attribute all improvement to that treatment no matter what. On the > > other hand if you try no treatments but improve, how do you know that > > you wouldn't have gotten much better faster with a certain treatment. > > > > My advice: > > I think the most important factor to look for is consistent measurable > > improvement. You will know if you are getting better. If you improve > > enough each week so that it is noticeable to you, even if you feel > > like complete crap for six months, then eventually you will improve a > > lot. If you are moderately poisoned, removing the source correctly, > > cleaning cavitations etc should produce this effect. So remove your > > amalgams and wait. After six months of hopefully steady improvement, > > you will be stronger and in a position to withstand and make > > decisions about other treatments. Then at that point you can continue > > the recovery process in the way you think is best. > > > > cz > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 Hi Cindy, You sure sound mercury toxic to me but I'm only a little old mom who has done 3-4 hours of research every day for almost 4 yrs.Why not start by taking Alpha lipoic Acid acid and lts of anti-oxidants, zinc etc.,you know the dan. However I would do the protocol based on Andy Cutler's format which is evry 3 hours for 3 days on 11 days off. Make sure you use 1/8-1/2 mg per lb of your body weight(ex:200 lbs would use 100mgs every 3 hours) R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 Hi Jim, One of the biggest challenges is getting help. Although I was lucky to find an integrative doctor, he doesn't really know a lot about chelation. My opinion is to read " Amalgam Illness " and talk to people on this list and read the links that Moria posts from time to time--about dose schedule and how to by chelation products. Above all, make sure the mercury in your mouth is gone before you begin anything. Then perhaps start with either a low dose of either DMSA or DMPS (You can get DMSA without a prescription) and follow a round the clock dose schedule. I don't think you can hurt yourself if you start with a low dose. And then you can add alpha lipoic acid later (or now, if your amalgam has been gone for three or four months). I have a very sensitive system and was confused by all the reading I had done and was afraid to start. I don't really have the luxury of a doctor who is taking me through this, although my doctor knows what I'm doing and gave me a prescription of DMPS. But if you start at a low dose and see what kind of symptoms you get--if they're too hard to take, like depression, fatigue, things like that--you can always lower the dose. Just make sure to follow Andy's dose schedule and you probably won't have a problem. If you still have your fillings, I can't point you to some good sources for having them removed safely. Marsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 In a message dated 9/7/02 2:02:28 PM Central Daylight Time, Jimmy_Kelley@... writes: Hi Jim, I am copying off your responses so we will be sure to know which of your comments I am responding to. > Hello, > > I just got my hair analysis back and my mercury levels are very high (no > surprise to me). I got the book " Amalgam Illness " by Dr. Cutler, so > I > all ready knew what was wrong with me. > Now, since you have the book, it is possible that you are too sick to read it. I was in that condition when I first received the book. You will notice that in the Cutler book there are substances with lines drawn through them, crossing them OUT. EDTA is one of the things crossed out in the Cutler book. DO NOT USE IT. Do not allow any doctor to tell you it will help. It won't. It will deplete your already depleted minerals and probably make you worse, not better. Money should be spent on things that will make you better in the short and long term. I will mention some of those things. There is treatment available for me > (EDTA), but it isn't effective for mercury poisoning. Have anyone out there > Years ago before I knew what was wrong with me I took a quarter of an IV bag of EDTA and it made me so sick that I laid on the couch for four straight days because I was to weak to lift my head, arms or body. I would never recommend anyone take it who is mercury toxic. It will probably make you so sick that you will wish that you had noticed in the Cutler book that it has a line drawn through it, meaning not to use it as a medication. > > It's very difficult to get help here. It's very rare and doctors want no > part of it. Have anyone out there gotten DMSA treatment in Canada (or any > Mercury toxicity is probably very common, but the illness is diagnosed a number of ways by a number of specialists. Ignore doctors who do not fit into your idea of a doctor/patient relationship. You will need to make a number of medical decisions, without a doctor because the ADA has been lobbying " for " the safety of mercury similar to other lobbying groups that desire unsafe products to continue to be on the market. The following is how to begin treatment without a doctor: First you have to have all your fillings removed and replaced by a dentist. If you cannot find one in Canada drive to the US and have that done. All root canal tips may have mercury in them. Also you have to have your crowns pulled off to have a dentist visualize if there is mercury under the crowns. Then and only then, when you are 100% sure the mercury is out of your mouth, you can wait four days and begin taking DMSA. After getting the fillings out you might get an IV of vitamin C, or not. You do not need a doctor in Canada to help you with this treatment. I believe that four days after you have the fillings out you can begin DMSA, which can be ordered online from several places. I ordered it and other stuff mentioned in the Cutler book (supplements) from Vitamin Research Products. Online the company can be found at www.vrp.com, or mail@... or 1-. You may elect to order a catalog. In it you will find DMSA (dimercapto succinic acid, 100 mg), 45 caps for $39.95. You do not need a prescription for this substance although doctors do write prescriptions for them that can be filled at a pharmacy in the U.S. According to the Cutler book, use the DMSA for 90 days or whatever the book says. The DMSA might cause your symptoms to flair and you might want to cut the doses somewhat. Does anyone know of a place that specializes in > Mercury Poisoning? There seems to be a lot of hype on the internet, but > This site is the most helpful place in the country to receive the help you need. I have improved substantially using this protocol, moving from lying on the couch fairly hopeless that I could improve, to working outdoors, cooking and cleaning and doing many things I simply could not do previous to the removal of fillings and the very faithful following of the Cutler protocol. I do have a doctor, but one does not need one to chelate. The Cutler book provides you with what you need. Continue to read the book if you are able to do that and go to page 67 in the Cutler book, upper left " What if you can't get medical help " and begin purchasing the supplements and use them at the recommended doses. Buy a weekly " pill minder " and count the supplements out into the boxes as it says in the book. If you cannot do that, have someone help you. If you feel that you sensitize to stuff readily, rotate the supplements, using a large monthly calendar, taking about three times the recommended dose on the bottle every four days. That will probably keep you from sensitizing to the vitamins, etc. Mercury quickly depletes your body of the substances mentioned on page 67 upper left, so taking a little more of them than the bottle says, makes quite a bit of sense. Sensitizing to supplements is a possibility in rare cases. After you have taken the DMSA orally for about 90+ days, or however long the book says, you may begin to chelate with Alpha Lipoic Acid, alone or with DMPS (DMPS costs about $5 per capsule and you WILL need a doctor to write script for that unless it could possibly be sold over the counter in Canada). Take the ALA in " rounds " not continuously. The rounds should be as described in the book, beginning with about 10 mg. of ALA every three hours, every 4 at night for about two to three straight days ON and about the same or longer OFF. If you become symptomatic while chelating, report to this internet group for suggestions. Some are: reduce the dose, stop chelating and wait, take Forskolin, check for copper toxicity and others. After you have chelated for a while, you will think you are feeling " nuts. " Consider that a good sign. It means you are chelating mercury from your brain with ALA the only substance that has two sulphydryl molecules and removes mercury from the brain. If you have many other symptoms, try to treat them as they arise. The book provides alot of advice. These two steps can be taken, the DMSA and the ALA-- without a doctor. You will need to see a dentist to remove the fillings if you have them. DO not CHELATE WITH ANY SUBSTANCE WITHOUT REMOVING FILLINGS. > > This group is extremely helpful. I think it would help if you would write a brief history of your illness. If you are not ill, then you would probably be in the category of people who can live with mercury in their bodies and not become devastatingly ill from it. I do believe that anyone with mercury amalgam fillings ought to have them removed and chelate with Alpha Lipoic Acid. One has a future to concern oneself with and mercury may be implicated in diseases we associate with aging. That is a guess. However, mercury has been found in diseased patients post mortem, in organs such as the brain if I correctly recall that. Following the advice on page 67 in the upper left hand corner will help you to feel better, however, I would advice anyone to begin these supplements slowly, particularly if one is chemically sensitive, perhaps one a day until one is sure they are not reacting adversely to the supplements. I have used ALA by several companies and have had no problem with it. There are several online companies to buy supplements from. Supplements made by Twinlab are often good and cheap. At times one must go to lef.org to buy Forskolin, which mitigates some mercury symptoms. Forskolin can be bought at Needs, as well. Obviously a timer should be used while taking ALA. One needs money to do some of the recommendations in the Cutler book. In order to limit the expense of supplements, the ones listed where I have pointed out, seem to be the ones most crucial during chelation. The objective is to chelate, but to feel better while doing so. Finally, I would look in the index of the book and severely limit or remove food from the diet that are in the " thiols " or sulfur category. This would include coffee and many green leafy vegetables, broccoli and others listed. These pull mercury from the tissue and make you feel worse, because they pull mercury out, but do not remove it from the body. Getting off sulfur foods is very good advice and is also described in the book. Finding a few foods that do not bother you and are not sulfur foods is the best course of action. Remember that spices contain alot of sulfur and these ought to be eliminated too. Someone else step in here if I have misquoted or stated anything incorrectly, particularly the best amount of time spent on DMSA. Best of luck. SJ > > Thanks, > Jim Kelley. > > Jimmy_Kelley@... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 In a message dated 9/7/02 2:02:28 PM Central Daylight Time, Jimmy_Kelley@... writes: Hi Jim, I am copying off your responses so we will be sure to know which of your comments I am responding to. > Hello, > > I just got my hair analysis back and my mercury levels are very high (no > surprise to me). I got the book " Amalgam Illness " by Dr. Cutler, so > I > all ready knew what was wrong with me. > Now, since you have the book, it is possible that you are too sick to read it. I was in that condition when I first received the book. You will notice that in the Cutler book there are substances with lines drawn through them, crossing them OUT. EDTA is one of the things crossed out in the Cutler book. DO NOT USE IT. Do not allow any doctor to tell you it will help. It won't. It will deplete your already depleted minerals and probably make you worse, not better. Money should be spent on things that will make you better in the short and long term. I will mention some of those things. There is treatment available for me > (EDTA), but it isn't effective for mercury poisoning. Have anyone out there > Years ago before I knew what was wrong with me I took a quarter of an IV bag of EDTA and it made me so sick that I laid on the couch for four straight days because I was to weak to lift my head, arms or body. I would never recommend anyone take it who is mercury toxic. It will probably make you so sick that you will wish that you had noticed in the Cutler book that it has a line drawn through it, meaning not to use it as a medication. > > It's very difficult to get help here. It's very rare and doctors want no > part of it. Have anyone out there gotten DMSA treatment in Canada (or any > Mercury toxicity is probably very common, but the illness is diagnosed a number of ways by a number of specialists. Ignore doctors who do not fit into your idea of a doctor/patient relationship. You will need to make a number of medical decisions, without a doctor because the ADA has been lobbying " for " the safety of mercury similar to other lobbying groups that desire unsafe products to continue to be on the market. The following is how to begin treatment without a doctor: First you have to have all your fillings removed and replaced by a dentist. If you cannot find one in Canada drive to the US and have that done. All root canal tips may have mercury in them. Also you have to have your crowns pulled off to have a dentist visualize if there is mercury under the crowns. Then and only then, when you are 100% sure the mercury is out of your mouth, you can wait four days and begin taking DMSA. After getting the fillings out you might get an IV of vitamin C, or not. You do not need a doctor in Canada to help you with this treatment. I believe that four days after you have the fillings out you can begin DMSA, which can be ordered online from several places. I ordered it and other stuff mentioned in the Cutler book (supplements) from Vitamin Research Products. Online the company can be found at www.vrp.com, or mail@... or 1-. You may elect to order a catalog. In it you will find DMSA (dimercapto succinic acid, 100 mg), 45 caps for $39.95. You do not need a prescription for this substance although doctors do write prescriptions for them that can be filled at a pharmacy in the U.S. According to the Cutler book, use the DMSA for 90 days or whatever the book says. The DMSA might cause your symptoms to flair and you might want to cut the doses somewhat. Does anyone know of a place that specializes in > Mercury Poisoning? There seems to be a lot of hype on the internet, but > This site is the most helpful place in the country to receive the help you need. I have improved substantially using this protocol, moving from lying on the couch fairly hopeless that I could improve, to working outdoors, cooking and cleaning and doing many things I simply could not do previous to the removal of fillings and the very faithful following of the Cutler protocol. I do have a doctor, but one does not need one to chelate. The Cutler book provides you with what you need. Continue to read the book if you are able to do that and go to page 67 in the Cutler book, upper left " What if you can't get medical help " and begin purchasing the supplements and use them at the recommended doses. Buy a weekly " pill minder " and count the supplements out into the boxes as it says in the book. If you cannot do that, have someone help you. If you feel that you sensitize to stuff readily, rotate the supplements, using a large monthly calendar, taking about three times the recommended dose on the bottle every four days. That will probably keep you from sensitizing to the vitamins, etc. Mercury quickly depletes your body of the substances mentioned on page 67 upper left, so taking a little more of them than the bottle says, makes quite a bit of sense. Sensitizing to supplements is a possibility in rare cases. After you have taken the DMSA orally for about 90+ days, or however long the book says, you may begin to chelate with Alpha Lipoic Acid, alone or with DMPS (DMPS costs about $5 per capsule and you WILL need a doctor to write script for that unless it could possibly be sold over the counter in Canada). Take the ALA in " rounds " not continuously. The rounds should be as described in the book, beginning with about 10 mg. of ALA every three hours, every 4 at night for about two to three straight days ON and about the same or longer OFF. If you become symptomatic while chelating, report to this internet group for suggestions. Some are: reduce the dose, stop chelating and wait, take Forskolin, check for copper toxicity and others. After you have chelated for a while, you will think you are feeling " nuts. " Consider that a good sign. It means you are chelating mercury from your brain with ALA the only substance that has two sulphydryl molecules and removes mercury from the brain. If you have many other symptoms, try to treat them as they arise. The book provides alot of advice. These two steps can be taken, the DMSA and the ALA-- without a doctor. You will need to see a dentist to remove the fillings if you have them. DO not CHELATE WITH ANY SUBSTANCE WITHOUT REMOVING FILLINGS. > > This group is extremely helpful. I think it would help if you would write a brief history of your illness. If you are not ill, then you would probably be in the category of people who can live with mercury in their bodies and not become devastatingly ill from it. I do believe that anyone with mercury amalgam fillings ought to have them removed and chelate with Alpha Lipoic Acid. One has a future to concern oneself with and mercury may be implicated in diseases we associate with aging. That is a guess. However, mercury has been found in diseased patients post mortem, in organs such as the brain if I correctly recall that. Following the advice on page 67 in the upper left hand corner will help you to feel better, however, I would advice anyone to begin these supplements slowly, particularly if one is chemically sensitive, perhaps one a day until one is sure they are not reacting adversely to the supplements. I have used ALA by several companies and have had no problem with it. There are several online companies to buy supplements from. Supplements made by Twinlab are often good and cheap. At times one must go to lef.org to buy Forskolin, which mitigates some mercury symptoms. Forskolin can be bought at Needs, as well. Obviously a timer should be used while taking ALA. One needs money to do some of the recommendations in the Cutler book. In order to limit the expense of supplements, the ones listed where I have pointed out, seem to be the ones most crucial during chelation. The objective is to chelate, but to feel better while doing so. Finally, I would look in the index of the book and severely limit or remove food from the diet that are in the " thiols " or sulfur category. This would include coffee and many green leafy vegetables, broccoli and others listed. These pull mercury from the tissue and make you feel worse, because they pull mercury out, but do not remove it from the body. Getting off sulfur foods is very good advice and is also described in the book. Finding a few foods that do not bother you and are not sulfur foods is the best course of action. Remember that spices contain alot of sulfur and these ought to be eliminated too. Someone else step in here if I have misquoted or stated anything incorrectly, particularly the best amount of time spent on DMSA. Best of luck. SJ > > Thanks, > Jim Kelley. > > Jimmy_Kelley@... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 In a message dated 9/7/02 2:02:28 PM Central Daylight Time, Jimmy_Kelley@... writes: Hi Jim, I am copying off your responses so we will be sure to know which of your comments I am responding to. > Hello, > > I just got my hair analysis back and my mercury levels are very high (no > surprise to me). I got the book " Amalgam Illness " by Dr. Cutler, so > I > all ready knew what was wrong with me. > Now, since you have the book, it is possible that you are too sick to read it. I was in that condition when I first received the book. You will notice that in the Cutler book there are substances with lines drawn through them, crossing them OUT. EDTA is one of the things crossed out in the Cutler book. DO NOT USE IT. Do not allow any doctor to tell you it will help. It won't. It will deplete your already depleted minerals and probably make you worse, not better. Money should be spent on things that will make you better in the short and long term. I will mention some of those things. There is treatment available for me > (EDTA), but it isn't effective for mercury poisoning. Have anyone out there > Years ago before I knew what was wrong with me I took a quarter of an IV bag of EDTA and it made me so sick that I laid on the couch for four straight days because I was to weak to lift my head, arms or body. I would never recommend anyone take it who is mercury toxic. It will probably make you so sick that you will wish that you had noticed in the Cutler book that it has a line drawn through it, meaning not to use it as a medication. > > It's very difficult to get help here. It's very rare and doctors want no > part of it. Have anyone out there gotten DMSA treatment in Canada (or any > Mercury toxicity is probably very common, but the illness is diagnosed a number of ways by a number of specialists. Ignore doctors who do not fit into your idea of a doctor/patient relationship. You will need to make a number of medical decisions, without a doctor because the ADA has been lobbying " for " the safety of mercury similar to other lobbying groups that desire unsafe products to continue to be on the market. The following is how to begin treatment without a doctor: First you have to have all your fillings removed and replaced by a dentist. If you cannot find one in Canada drive to the US and have that done. All root canal tips may have mercury in them. Also you have to have your crowns pulled off to have a dentist visualize if there is mercury under the crowns. Then and only then, when you are 100% sure the mercury is out of your mouth, you can wait four days and begin taking DMSA. After getting the fillings out you might get an IV of vitamin C, or not. You do not need a doctor in Canada to help you with this treatment. I believe that four days after you have the fillings out you can begin DMSA, which can be ordered online from several places. I ordered it and other stuff mentioned in the Cutler book (supplements) from Vitamin Research Products. Online the company can be found at www.vrp.com, or mail@... or 1-. You may elect to order a catalog. In it you will find DMSA (dimercapto succinic acid, 100 mg), 45 caps for $39.95. You do not need a prescription for this substance although doctors do write prescriptions for them that can be filled at a pharmacy in the U.S. According to the Cutler book, use the DMSA for 90 days or whatever the book says. The DMSA might cause your symptoms to flair and you might want to cut the doses somewhat. Does anyone know of a place that specializes in > Mercury Poisoning? There seems to be a lot of hype on the internet, but > This site is the most helpful place in the country to receive the help you need. I have improved substantially using this protocol, moving from lying on the couch fairly hopeless that I could improve, to working outdoors, cooking and cleaning and doing many things I simply could not do previous to the removal of fillings and the very faithful following of the Cutler protocol. I do have a doctor, but one does not need one to chelate. The Cutler book provides you with what you need. Continue to read the book if you are able to do that and go to page 67 in the Cutler book, upper left " What if you can't get medical help " and begin purchasing the supplements and use them at the recommended doses. Buy a weekly " pill minder " and count the supplements out into the boxes as it says in the book. If you cannot do that, have someone help you. If you feel that you sensitize to stuff readily, rotate the supplements, using a large monthly calendar, taking about three times the recommended dose on the bottle every four days. That will probably keep you from sensitizing to the vitamins, etc. Mercury quickly depletes your body of the substances mentioned on page 67 upper left, so taking a little more of them than the bottle says, makes quite a bit of sense. Sensitizing to supplements is a possibility in rare cases. After you have taken the DMSA orally for about 90+ days, or however long the book says, you may begin to chelate with Alpha Lipoic Acid, alone or with DMPS (DMPS costs about $5 per capsule and you WILL need a doctor to write script for that unless it could possibly be sold over the counter in Canada). Take the ALA in " rounds " not continuously. The rounds should be as described in the book, beginning with about 10 mg. of ALA every three hours, every 4 at night for about two to three straight days ON and about the same or longer OFF. If you become symptomatic while chelating, report to this internet group for suggestions. Some are: reduce the dose, stop chelating and wait, take Forskolin, check for copper toxicity and others. After you have chelated for a while, you will think you are feeling " nuts. " Consider that a good sign. It means you are chelating mercury from your brain with ALA the only substance that has two sulphydryl molecules and removes mercury from the brain. If you have many other symptoms, try to treat them as they arise. The book provides alot of advice. These two steps can be taken, the DMSA and the ALA-- without a doctor. You will need to see a dentist to remove the fillings if you have them. DO not CHELATE WITH ANY SUBSTANCE WITHOUT REMOVING FILLINGS. > > This group is extremely helpful. I think it would help if you would write a brief history of your illness. If you are not ill, then you would probably be in the category of people who can live with mercury in their bodies and not become devastatingly ill from it. I do believe that anyone with mercury amalgam fillings ought to have them removed and chelate with Alpha Lipoic Acid. One has a future to concern oneself with and mercury may be implicated in diseases we associate with aging. That is a guess. However, mercury has been found in diseased patients post mortem, in organs such as the brain if I correctly recall that. Following the advice on page 67 in the upper left hand corner will help you to feel better, however, I would advice anyone to begin these supplements slowly, particularly if one is chemically sensitive, perhaps one a day until one is sure they are not reacting adversely to the supplements. I have used ALA by several companies and have had no problem with it. There are several online companies to buy supplements from. Supplements made by Twinlab are often good and cheap. At times one must go to lef.org to buy Forskolin, which mitigates some mercury symptoms. Forskolin can be bought at Needs, as well. Obviously a timer should be used while taking ALA. One needs money to do some of the recommendations in the Cutler book. In order to limit the expense of supplements, the ones listed where I have pointed out, seem to be the ones most crucial during chelation. The objective is to chelate, but to feel better while doing so. Finally, I would look in the index of the book and severely limit or remove food from the diet that are in the " thiols " or sulfur category. This would include coffee and many green leafy vegetables, broccoli and others listed. These pull mercury from the tissue and make you feel worse, because they pull mercury out, but do not remove it from the body. Getting off sulfur foods is very good advice and is also described in the book. Finding a few foods that do not bother you and are not sulfur foods is the best course of action. Remember that spices contain alot of sulfur and these ought to be eliminated too. Someone else step in here if I have misquoted or stated anything incorrectly, particularly the best amount of time spent on DMSA. Best of luck. SJ > > Thanks, > Jim Kelley. > > Jimmy_Kelley@... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 << my name is meir shubowitz i AtresiaMicrotia. about 5 years ago i finished my last operation. If anyone has any questions please feel free to email me >> Welcome Meir, I know many people in this group would benefit from hearing about your experience. Could you please share with us who performed your surgery. How do you feel about the experience and the results? I would love to hear about it. Thank you for being open to questions. Autumn (mom to Brayden) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2002 Report Share Posted October 9, 2002 my name is meir shubowitz i AtresiaMicrotia. about 5 years ago i finished my last operation. If anyone has any questions please feel free to email me welcome meir! thanks for wanting to share! jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Wendi, I don't have any advice on this one. eats whatever I put in front of him and Ashely is almost 2, and she eats pretty much everything too. knows that I won't give him anything with nuts,dairy, or soy. So, if I give him something new, he asks if it has dairy and soy in it. He thinks that he can't have nuts because they have dairy and soy in them. He is almost 4 and we are trying to let him know just the opposite, but for now it works. That is tough that she is thinking there are peanuts in everything. It is scarry. I wish you the best in this situation. The allergist might be able to reasure her. :-) Alyssa (unknown) I always swore my child wouldn't be one of those kids that would only eat a few things and not try anything new! Well my little angel has become a very picky eater. keeps telling me that everything has peanuts. I try to reassure her that I would never give her peanuts. I am guessing that she is trying to test my boundaries on EVERYTHING at this time. Must be a 4-year old thing! LOLI am just wondering how everyone else dealt with this when it came up for them.Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.WendiP.S. We have an appointment with the allergist in a few weeks to address the issue of telling me that kids touch her with PB & J sandwiches, when it is not true. Maybe the allergist can help with this one also. Argh! I feel like I am totally losing it sometimes.Why - Oh - Why do these things have to come up during my cycle? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2003 Report Share Posted April 20, 2003 Hi Josii, I soooo understand! I like thicker as well, and have discovered (thanks protein pervs) that if I dump my ProBlend 55 vanilla (one scoop) in the blender with about 4 ice cubes and a splash of coffee made my preferred way, then blend till the ice has stopped clanging against the glass, it makes a heavenly thick coffee protein frozen latte. I even make extra coffee in the morning to put in the fridge and use with my shakes. I also am a coffee person. I even have coffee ice cubes in the freezer…OH…and choc protein shakes made with coffee and ice….and and and…. I DO hope no one takes offense, but recently a bit of Lost Scripture has come to light, and I wanted to share it with you! ~On the eighth day God/dess created coffee, and found that it was Good.~ Try whirring your shakes with ice rather than plain water. Blessings! Jeanne in Georgia (unknown) I had surgery two months ago and have been getting the 75 grams of protein that is required daily, from ISO Pure Dutch Chocolate, which is starting to taste really yukky to me lately. I guess my taste are changing. As far as protein goes, I've always heard that our bodies can only use 30 grams of protein at one time???? One serving of my protein drink provides 50 grams of protein...Does this mean I'm wasting the other 20 grams of protein? I'm not into strenuous training or anything like that. I just do my daily walking. I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR VIEWS ON THIS????????????????? ALSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....I CONTINUE WASTING MONEY ON PROTEIN DRINKS LOOKING TO FIND ONE THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL SICK...ANY ADVICE YOU MAY HAVE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. I do like the thicker type drink and absolutely love coffee flavored anything. Thanks a bunch and have a great day! Josii* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 Renea- were you at the HOPE ctr yesterday morning by any chance? I dropped by with to say hi to and see the new set-up over there; I was so very impressed. Stehanie Expect a miracle! (unknown) > , > I too would love to ask you a few questions. We currently attend > the HOPE center. I am always looking for good ideas for our home > program/incidental teaching/play etc. and I know of a couple > families that may be looking for some help. That's wonderful that > you want to share your knowledge and experience! Could you please > e-mail me with your personal e-mail address? > Thanks, Renea Reynolds > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Renea- Ebay will be your best bet. They used to make those dolls that came with a potty that flushed and everything but I haven't been able to find one in the store. If you find one and it works- please think of me if you ever want to sell it! naynay55@... wrote: We are trying to potty train Ben and are using techniques from "Toilet training in less than a day." Anyways, we need a potty training doll with pants that wets. Does anyone have one or know where I can get one? Thanks in advance, Renea Reynolds Support Everyday Miracles by shopping online at IGIVE.COM, where a portion of every purchase is donated to this support network. Proceeds received will be used for a variety of functions, such as educational activities, therapy, famiy outings, etc. http://www.igive.com/EDM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Rosie, Forgive yourself as we are all human and this will happen from time to time. Just try to stay at the low end of your points and drink extra water. That should help. Roxie But I am really scared that these past 3 days may have added a pound or two! But if I'm perfect plus excercise for the next 4 days I hope I at least maintain!Rockin ROSIE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 Elissa, thanks for the response and congratulations on the great success you have had. If you don't mind my asking..how much do you have to lose? I think keeping in touch will be great. Keep me informed of your weekly losses as well. We will do this together Trina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 Elaine, I am so sorry for your losses. Your story was heartbreaking. What an amazing miracle with your son!!! Love, P."Brayden Austin" 06/02/03}}Angel {{ (14wks) 6/12/00}}Angel Trustin{{ (18wks) 7/17/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 Elaine, I am so sorry for your losses. Your story was heartbreaking. What an amazing miracle with your son!!! Love, P."Brayden Austin" 06/02/03}}Angel {{ (14wks) 6/12/00}}Angel Trustin{{ (18wks) 7/17/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 I know the feeling Elissa ;-) Elissa Feit wrote: Ooh! You have a wardrobe! *envy* ;-) -Elissa ----- Original Message ----- From: b To: Weight_Watchers_Member_Support_Group Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: Re: (unknown) I think it's good to have small goals elissa, doesn't seem so overwhelming that way. I do small goals even though I don't have as much to lose....right now I'm just looking for 150...(course then I'll have to change my points....)....but that's my first goal...then 145, 140 etc.... With each 5-10 pounds I find something in my 'old' warddrobe to wear again...so it's fun to wear it a few time before leaving it behind! B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Really? That low? I know eggplant's free, but the other ingredients... Also, they don't list the nutritional info and they do tend to do so for their lower calorie items. It certainly would be an excellent dish for at home, though, with low-fat cheeses and sauce!.... If you baked the breaded eggplant rather than frying it. I think we've got a winner! -Elissa (unknown) olive garden lunch eggplant parm 7 pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Hi Jane, I don't know why you're not getting all the messages, I see you are on daily digest...perhaps they are easier to delete that way? let me know if you'd like to change back to individual emails at all thanks for keeping up the work with holiday! I'm curious as to what the brand is you're referring to for the cheese...? stephanie -- Expect a miracle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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