Re: Has anyone used kirkman tmg?

[Guest guest]

If anyone has used kirkman tmg let me know what you think.

Bonnie

marib005 <marib005@...> wrote:

Gaylen,

Thanks for the input. What are you doing for the strep? I believe

strep in the gut is a problem for my Jack.

nne

> In a message dated 7/9/2004 12:31:09 PM Central Standard Time,

> marib005@e... writes:

> Is Curtis on Lamisil for yeast? I thought when the metals were

gone

> the yeast and the viruses would be gone as well?

> He's on Lamisil as a compromise with Dr. Goldberg who insists that

all of his

> patients with low nk cells and viral issues also get treated for

yeast until

> their immune systems balance out. He's never tested as having a

problem with

> yeast and we haven't seen a huge improvement with the yeast part

of the

> treatment but then it may help with some more subtle stuff --

still not sure about

> that. His writing became much neater and he was a little less

flighty after it

> was added.

>

> I think whether or not issues still remain after chelation is

complete really

> varies from person to person. Curt's immune dysfunction and

overall health

> were much improved after chelation but still way off. He's needed

chelation

> followed by antiviral treatment. I believe both were part of his

illness since

> just as he began to regress from the arsenic spraying and other

metals

> exposure, he was exposed to roseola.

>

> Of course, it could be argued that he wasn't really finished with

chelation

> when we stopped. He had chelated for almost four years and we

were still

> seeing waves of slightly elevated nickel and arsenic. (Of course,

I later found

> that they were spraying MSMA on the baseball fields where he had

been playing

> during the last year or so of treatment so that was certainly a

source.) The

> mercury had not shown up in testing for about a year, even though

it was

> extremely elevated mid-way through chelation for about two years.

>

> My theory (and that is all it is since I really have no clue) is

that

> removing the metals took quite a load off of his system but the

system was so

> dysregulated by years of metals and viral load (and goodness knows

what else) that it

> needed other treatments as well. Or perhaps it had the metals and

viral load

> because it was dysregulated due to genetics (probably most likely

the case).

> I'm hoping that addressing the virus, and possibly yeast, maybe

strep, will

> continue to lighten his load so hopefully the immune system will

kick in.

> We're already seeing good evidence of this since his NK cells have

almost

> normalized (from being almost non-existent) and his CD4 & CD8

cells have normalized

> after a few years of them being almost off the charts.

>

> We may one day go back to chelation if we feel it's indicated. As

of now, he

> does do Biocleanse treatments every six months or so to hopefully

keep toxins

> out. He's also going through a bizarre treatment called Neuro-

Modulation

> Technique that seems to be doing something helpful. It's in the

similar category

> to NAET in that is it a form of energy treatment but is extremely

involved in

> how things are treated. We've already seen a change in immune

blood test

> results after a round of this treatment and hope it will continue

to help

> regulate his system. We'll see.

> Gaylen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> If anyone has used kirkman tmg let me know what you think.

I tried it about 3-4 years ago. My kids did not tolerate it.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have used it for my son. Once in a while the TMG versus DMG topic comes

up and I am glad it does because it is an important difference for some. My

child seemed to be doing well on TMG for about two months, then it turned into

a nightmare. If I recall correctly, his DAN! doc told me many people

actually need to go through the process of converting the DMG to TMG, the step

in

between is a crucial one. With my son he began having more and more bouts of

irrationality, sleep problems, and generally more over stim. I think Bernard

Rimland might have something about the differences. When I switched my son

back to DMG with Folic acid and b12 everything went back to normal.

I would say, if you are having good luck, continue! If abnormal behaviors

seem to appear, maybe try DMG with Folic acid and b12 and see if that helps.

Good luck

[Guest guest]

,

I noticed that my son is talking alot more, almost hyper. He woke up at 3:00 am

this morning and has not done that for years. He was wide awake and still is

today. I don't think I will give him 1 teaspoon today....

Bonnie

nelsoneyes@... wrote:

Bonnie - I've been using it and haven't seen much, either way. In fact, I

have half a bottle left - if you wan't to try some, I could mail you a dozen or

so capsules.

>

> If anyone has used kirkman tmg let me know what you think.

> Bonnie

>

> marib0