RE: Diahrrea ()

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In a message dated 2/19/04 12:12:13 PM Pacific Standard Time,

jenniferasmus@... writes:

I was very strict on the diet for a time, and still had diahrrea.

Enzymes solved it.

I think you should reduce the cal mag. That's a lot of mag. Try epsom

salts instead. Don't give GSE everyday unless you chelating. Anything

over 4 days w/GSE tends to turn a yeast problem into a bacteria problem.

For everyday maintenance, I would use something like Candex, or olive

leaf extract. These products do not kill all the good bacteria like GSE.

Think of GSE as your heavy hitter when you have a major yeast problem.

If you clear out the intestines with GSE, and then don't repopulate the

good bacteris with a probiotic, you will get diahrrea.

Some probiotics I use:

Primal Defence - usually at HFS

Perfect Stool

Proflora

Culturelle - a must for bacteria overgrowth

The one you use may depend on your child. Klaire labs

http://www.klaire.com/ carries a really strong one you might be

interested in. Its expensive, but you can divide the dose if you want.

Probably the strongest one ive seen. Its called Ther-Biotic

Detoxification Support. Some folks got a discount by saying they heard

of it through Dr McCandless.

http://www.klaire.com/products.asp?PID=2 & CID=1

All probiotics are safe. You cant overdose, ever. Some get a loose stool

once their intestines have normalized and they don't need such a high

dose anymore.

That's the thing about suppliments, you are always adjusting the dose as

your childs needs change.

Let me know if you have other questions.

jennifer

Thank You All For Your Help, I got some proboitics am working on our 3rd day

now.. I don't see anything different but will keep trying.... Also I quite

using the Cal-Mag and he still has diahrrea.. very strange.. also no GSE..

I just added Apple Pectin and SAMe... for the metals (antimony and aluminum)

untill the doc get me the dmsa..... He gets about 6 drops of OLE a day if not

more.. and Milk Thistle (1-2 drops perday) what Enzymes? and how much... I

am lost but doing the best I can.... Thank You So MUCH!

Sharon mom to Zachariah 3.2yr ASD

He is 41lbs and 43 Inches tall..

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In a message dated 2/22/04 6:43:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,

jenniferasmus@... writes:

What probiotic are using and what strength?

I got him Nature's Way Primadophilus For Kids

1 Billion Microorganisms Per Tablet.. 2 per day

Should I give my son all 3 of those enzymes? or just one or 2 or them?

Let me know so I can order them.. Thank You!!

Sharon mom to Zachariah 3.2yr ASD

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Me too

> I always said if I was stranded on a desert island, and I had to pick 3

> things to bring - enzymes would be one of them.

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Sharon,

I have a friend in town who has had chronic diahrrea with both of her

children since day one. She was changing 5+ stool diapers a day. That,

in combination of red ears, some night waking, and the inability of

probiotics and yeast killers to solve the problem - I convinced her to

try houston enzymes. www.houstonni.com

Her kids stool have finally started firming up after the

diet/supplimentation etc. have not helped.

Houston has three main enzyme products that are produced seperately (as

opposed to one all inclusive enzymes-which is how the other manuf. do

it)

One is for gluten/caesin/soy breakdown, one for carbs, and one for

phenols. Many children have phenol intolerance, which causes this kind

of diahrrea. If you are on the GF/CF diet- enzymes are great for

breaking down proteins you may have missed. Also, some parents have

replaced the diet with enzymes.

I always said if I was stranded on a desert island, and I had to pick 3

things to bring - enzymes would be one of them. Devon avoided the GI

biospy using these.

I don't know if the SAMe/pectin causes diahrrea- Ive never tried them. I

suppose its possible.

There is a separate list devoted to enzyme use -

/

If you are interested- this is the place to start.

What probiotic are using and what strength?

jennifer

Thank You All For Your Help, I got some proboitics am working on our 3rd

day

now.. I don't see anything different but will keep trying.... Also I

quite

using the Cal-Mag and he still has diahrrea.. very strange.. also no

GSE..

I just added Apple Pectin and SAMe... for the metals (antimony and

aluminum)

untill the doc get me the dmsa..... He gets about 6 drops of OLE a day

if not

more.. and Milk Thistle (1-2 drops perday) what Enzymes? and how

much... I

am lost but doing the best I can.... Thank You So MUCH! Sharon

mom to Zachariah 3.2yr ASD He is 41lbs and 43 Inches tall..

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Sharon,

There isnt much strength in that brand, although I have used it for my

daughter(without noticing any real difference). Our maintenance dose is

20 billion/day - much higher if we are treating yeast or a bacteria

problem. In order to get this strength, you either have to order online

- or get your health food store to order it for you. I recently ordered

from Klaire labs(Ther-Biotic Detoxification Support) /50 Billion (not

sure why its detox, but anyway) so I could divide the dose - or use it

full strength as I see fit. There is another brand called Ther-Biotic

Complete which has a wider variety of strains. That's kind-of important

- as there are more than just one needed strain needed in the gut. I

cant say how well these work as of yet - I still say Primal Defense is

by far our most trusted brand.... But I like to rotate.

Anyway, I would strongly suggest you visit the enzyme group. My feeling

would be to say " yep, you have to use all three " but you may find you

don't want to after looking into it. IMO, the inability to digest food

is so central to the gut-dysbiosis/autism realm that giving the best

enzymes with every meal/snack is a must. I found this out the hard way

when we ran out.

When we started enzymes - we did 1/2 cap and built up to a full cap (one

at a time) to watch for reactions. Devon had immediate language and a

calm disposition right away. We did do a modified GF/CF. Now we do 1/2

cap w/ every meal. I can give a slight amount of gluten and caesin -

but we always get gas and diahrrea if we give too much. Without the

no-fenol enzyme, our stool problems are enormous.

If you have more enzyme questions, e-mail me privately

Re: [ ] Diahrrea ()

In a message dated 2/22/04 6:43:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,

jenniferasmus@... writes:

What probiotic are using and what strength?

I got him Nature's Way Primadophilus For Kids

1 Billion Microorganisms Per Tablet.. 2 per day

Should I give my son all 3 of those enzymes? or just one or 2 or them?

Let me know so I can order them.. Thank You!! Sharon mom to

Zachariah 3.2yr ASD