Re: Not sure what to do after 8 rounds(apologies, long)/Dana

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>

> Thanks Dana. Is it ok for the liver to increase the yeast protocol

> after treating for 4 weeks?

It depends on your yeast protocol, and whether you are monitoring

liver function, and whether your child appears to be having liver

problems.

> Supplements, N-F and PZ. For yeast I used GSE, yeast aid, candex.

You can give GSE until yeast is gone. Be careful tho if your child

has slow Phase I liver metabolism, because GSE can slow it down even more.

So far as I know, you can use yeast aid and candex for as long as you

want.

> I remember that your son lost his food intolerances with chelation, I

> keep it in the back of my mind every day.

Yep, it is very nice.

> Removing carrots is not a big deal, however, I would have nothing to

> replace it. That is how I got down to just carrots and zucchini in

> the first place.

It is usually better to NOT replace it, at least for a few days, so

you can determine if removing it caused an improvement. Replacing it

can mean that he does not tolerate the replacement either.

Yeast aid contains items which will cause problems for your child if

he is lutein/carotene intolerant. Try removing that also.

> I removed the vit B's 4 days ago. He did only ask me that question

> once today. Mmmmmm. What is your B50?

It has 50 mg or 50 mcg of all the Bs.

>>Why do you think it needed

> to be removed.

It was one of the last supplements I was giving her. So I removed it

and she stopped asking the same question over and over.

>>I think is B deficient. Would he need one

> removed while being deficient in others?

This is what I am finding right now with my son. I had him up to ten

B100 capsules per day. Then I added back selenium and he immediately

only needed five B100 per day. But then he started regressing, and I

could not figure out how many B100 he needed. So I went back to my

individual Bs, and removed the B100 and the multivitamin. This is

what I have figured out so far:

B6 [pyridoxine] -- he needs this for hyperactivity, language,

attention/focus, and better sleep.

B1 [thiamine] -- he needs this for his visual stims.

B2 [riboflavin] -- I can't give him ANY of this, otherwise his visuals

come back, loss of language, problems with focus and attention.

B12 [cobalamin] -- I can't give him ANY of this, otherwise he will

start scripting again.

> For the waking-- what are the other things??

Systemic virus issues, B6 deficiency, magnesium deficiency, supplement

intolerance, probably a few more that I am not thinking of right now.

Dana

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> >>I think is B deficient. Would he need one

> > removed while being deficient in others?

>

>

> This is what I am finding right now with my son. I had him up to ten

> B100 capsules per day. Then I added back selenium and he immediately

> only needed five B100 per day. But then he started regressing, and I

> could not figure out how many B100 he needed. So I went back to my

> individual Bs, and removed the B100 and the multivitamin. This is

> what I have figured out so far:

>

> B6 [pyridoxine] -- he needs this for hyperactivity, language,

> attention/focus, and better sleep.

I discovered that B6 also caused him to stop writing letters in the air!!

Dana

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By keeping a food journal, I noticed that consistently about 24 hours

after eating lamb, my daughter became agitated. I don't know if it

is common for our kids to have problems with lamb, but without the

journal I would never have made the connection.

> > > Looking through past posts recently, I found that by now I

should

> > > have seen some improvement and I'm a little worried

> > > because I have chelated my son 7 rounds(ALA 3on/at least and

> most of

> > > the time, more off) so far and things are worse now.

> >

> >

> > You can try increasing your yeast protocol.

> >

> > What supplements are you using?

> >

> > For my son, he would appear to improve for a week or two, then

> regress

> > back again. Primarily this was because of virus issues, plus

> certain

> > supplements he needed.

> >

> >

> > > His main issue is food intolerance. Almost ALL food. Started

> with

> > > milk and wheat a couple years ago and he is down to 5 foods

now,

> > > three meats and two vegs(as much organic as can be) and ffrom

his

> > > behaviour, I'm guessing he doesn't tolerate them either.

> >

> >

> > My son tolerated no foods either. I used HNI enzymes and then

> rotated

> > foods to find what he tolerated with the enzymes.

> >

> > http://www.houstonni.com/

> >

> > ALA chelation [plus enzymes and B6, in my opinion] healed my son's

> > gut, now he can eat anything he wants, without enzymes.

> >

> >

> > > This last 4 months, I have literally watched his methylation

> system

> > > crash. He went from being able to tolerate some sulfury foods

to

> > > none. SAme with supplements and everything with

> > > phenol/salycilate/amines.

> >

> >

> > My son lost his phenol sensitivity sometime during the first 10

> rounds

> > of ALA. So yes, ALA does affect this aspect. If you keep

> chelating,

> > hopefully you will have the same result my son did.

> >

> >

> > >>And from what I gather, he has some sort

> > > of carotenemia, he has very orange skin.

> >

> >

> > For my son, this was lutein/carotene intolerance. He did not

> tolerate

> > those things, even with enzymes. He did not tolerate them until

the

> > very end of chelation. Try removing all orange and green foods

from

> > his diet, if he is still eating them. What does he eat now?

> >

> >

> > >>He has no muscle tone at all.

> >

> >

> > Carnitine can help with this.

> >

> >

> > >>There are times during the day that he

> > > will ask the same question over and over.

> >

> >

> > My #4 did this when it was time for me to remove the B50. It can

> also

> > be viral.

> >

> >

> > >>He used to be a pretty

> > > good sleeper, but the last month or so, he wakes often and

hours

> too

> > > early.

> >

> >

> > Can be phenol intolerance, lutein/carotene intolerance, yeast

> > overgrowth, or a few other things.

> >

> >

> > >>For the last couple weeks he has been constipated, I've had

> > > to give him suppositories every third day. When he does go it

is

> > > mush.

> >

> >

> > Constipation ideas

> >

> > http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

> >

> >

> > >>For almost a week, he had bright red cheeks, ears and nose, no

> > > fever, but woke up one morning at 5 and tthrew up for the rest

of

> the

> > > morning. The red is gone and he seems to be ok. He has purple

> > > circles under his eyes. He usually has little energy.

> >

> >

> > Phenol intolerance or yeast.

> >

> >

> > >>I haven't started it, but I cannot find any

> > > other B's that can tolerate.

> >

> >

> > My son did not tolerate B vitamins until about round 50 of ALA

> chelation.

> >

> >

> > > Does anyone see anything that says it isn't mercury?

> >

> >

> > Based on my experience with my son, it sounds like mercury, food

> > issues that are not addressed by enzymes, deficiency of certain

> > nutrients, and virus/es.

> >

> >

> > > On a more whiny note, I really feel like I am doing more harm

> than

> > > good. He looks ill. But because he doesn't hand-flap,

everyone

> sees

> > > it as my problem.

> >

> >

> > Well, my son flapped, so maybe I was " lucky " .

> >

> > You can read my son's story here, maybe something might help your

> son

> > also.

> >

> > http://www.danasview.net/myson.htm

> >

> > I know how frustrating it is when a child does not respond " as he

is

> > supposed to " with the interventions that are working for other

> kids.

> > Keep researching and asking questions, you will find what your

child

> > needs.

> >

> >

> > > Antimony, 0.10, < 0.066: YELLOW

> > > Arsenic, 0.19, < 0.080: YELLOW

> > > Lead, 1.1, < 1.0: YELLOW, (barely)

> > > Tin, 0.76, < 0.30: YELLOW

> >

> >

> > Consider removing sources of current exposures

> >

> > http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

> >

> > Dana

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I know that beef and lamb are in the category?? type in allergy lab

tests. The blood work my son had showed mild allergy to beef and lamb.

It was an Igg and IGe bloodwork test ran by our DAN doc. Just an idea.

ANdrea

[ ] Re: Not sure what to do after 8

rounds(apologies, long)/Dana

By keeping a food journal, I noticed that consistently about 24 hours

after eating lamb, my daughter became agitated. I don't know if it

is common for our kids to have problems with lamb, but without the

journal I would never have made the connection.

> > > Looking through past posts recently, I found that by now I

should

> > > have seen some improvement and I'm a little worried

> > > because I have chelated my son 7 rounds(ALA 3on/at least and

> most of

> > > the time, more off) so far and things are worse now.

> >

> >

> > You can try increasing your yeast protocol.

> >

> > What supplements are you using?

> >

> > For my son, he would appear to improve for a week or two, then

> regress

> > back again. Primarily this was because of virus issues, plus

> certain

> > supplements he needed.

> >

> >

> > > His main issue is food intolerance. Almost ALL food. Started

> with

> > > milk and wheat a couple years ago and he is down to 5 foods

now,

> > > three meats and two vegs(as much organic as can be) and ffrom

his

> > > behaviour, I'm guessing he doesn't tolerate them either.

> >

> >

> > My son tolerated no foods either. I used HNI enzymes and then

> rotated

> > foods to find what he tolerated with the enzymes.

> >

> > http://www.houstonni.com/

> >

> > ALA chelation [plus enzymes and B6, in my opinion] healed my son's

> > gut, now he can eat anything he wants, without enzymes.

> >

> >

> > > This last 4 months, I have literally watched his methylation

> system

> > > crash. He went from being able to tolerate some sulfury foods

to

> > > none. SAme with supplements and everything with

> > > phenol/salycilate/amines.

> >

> >

> > My son lost his phenol sensitivity sometime during the first 10

> rounds

> > of ALA. So yes, ALA does affect this aspect. If you keep

> chelating,

> > hopefully you will have the same result my son did.

> >

> >

> > >>And from what I gather, he has some sort

> > > of carotenemia, he has very orange skin.

> >

> >

> > For my son, this was lutein/carotene intolerance. He did not

> tolerate

> > those things, even with enzymes. He did not tolerate them until

the

> > very end of chelation. Try removing all orange and green foods

from

> > his diet, if he is still eating them. What does he eat now?

> >

> >

> > >>He has no muscle tone at all.

> >

> >

> > Carnitine can help with this.

> >

> >

> > >>There are times during the day that he

> > > will ask the same question over and over.

> >

> >

> > My #4 did this when it was time for me to remove the B50. It can

> also

> > be viral.

> >

> >

> > >>He used to be a pretty

> > > good sleeper, but the last month or so, he wakes often and

hours

> too

> > > early.

> >

> >

> > Can be phenol intolerance, lutein/carotene intolerance, yeast

> > overgrowth, or a few other things.

> >

> >

> > >>For the last couple weeks he has been constipated, I've had

> > > to give him suppositories every third day. When he does go it

is

> > > mush.

> >

> >

> > Constipation ideas

> >

> > http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

> >

> >

> > >>For almost a week, he had bright red cheeks, ears and nose, no

> > > fever, but woke up one morning at 5 and tthrew up for the rest

of

> the

> > > morning. The red is gone and he seems to be ok. He has purple

> > > circles under his eyes. He usually has little energy.

> >

> >

> > Phenol intolerance or yeast.

> >

> >

> > >>I haven't started it, but I cannot find any

> > > other B's that can tolerate.

> >

> >

> > My son did not tolerate B vitamins until about round 50 of ALA

> chelation.

> >

> >

> > > Does anyone see anything that says it isn't mercury?

> >

> >

> > Based on my experience with my son, it sounds like mercury, food

> > issues that are not addressed by enzymes, deficiency of certain

> > nutrients, and virus/es.

> >

> >

> > > On a more whiny note, I really feel like I am doing more harm

> than

> > > good. He looks ill. But because he doesn't hand-flap,

everyone

> sees

> > > it as my problem.

> >

> >

> > Well, my son flapped, so maybe I was " lucky " .

> >

> > You can read my son's story here, maybe something might help your

> son

> > also.

> >

> > http://www.danasview.net/myson.htm

> >

> > I know how frustrating it is when a child does not respond " as he

is

> > supposed to " with the interventions that are working for other

> kids.

> > Keep researching and asking questions, you will find what your

child

> > needs.

> >

> >

> > > Antimony, 0.10, < 0.066: YELLOW

> > > Arsenic, 0.19, < 0.080: YELLOW

> > > Lead, 1.1, < 1.0: YELLOW, (barely)

> > > Tin, 0.76, < 0.30: YELLOW

> >

> >

> > Consider removing sources of current exposures

> >

> > http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

> >

> > Dana

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