Re: Pros and Cons of Using only ALA

[Guest guest]

> Hey everyone i was wondering if someone could give me feedback on

using ALA

> only to chelate.

It is generally fine to do this, as long as there has

not been mercury exposure in the last few months.

Also ALA doesn't chelate lead well -- DMSA is clearly

much better (and needed) for lead. DMSA MAY also be

better for some other metals, not sure.

> I am currently using PCA-Rx to chelate and have come to

> realize that it is not working. Guess I should have listened but

wanted to

> give it a try. Anyway I was wondering what the pros and cons

were of

> chelating with ALA only. I know of some people that have used

this and done

> very well. Just wandering. My daughter is 23 months old and 22

lbs. She

> tested high for cadmium, arsenic, antimony, tin, lead, aluminum,

and off the

> charts for bismuth. This was a hair test. Her mercury levels

were minimal,

> but I still beleive she is mercury toxic.

Generally I think ALA only is fine, but I'm concerned about

the lead on the hair test. For that you really should consider

using DMSA.

> What would be the dosage for a

> child this age and weight???

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Andy_dose_sched.html

About 3 to 11 mg per dose, every 3 hours.

> Does the level of toxicity change the

> dosage???

no.

good wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

>>Anyway I was wondering what the pros and cons were of

> chelating with ALA only. I know of some people that have used this

and done

> very well. Just wandering. My daughter is 23 months old and 22

lbs. She

> tested high for cadmium, arsenic, antimony, tin, lead, aluminum, and

off the

> charts for bismuth.

ALA might not do anything for lead. Otherwise, it was very good for

my son.

[He also needed anti-virals and several supplements for recovery.]

>>What would be the dosage for a

> child this age and weight???

For my 2-1/2 yo, I started with 10 mg ALA.

>>Does the level of toxicity change the

> dosage???

Not that I know of.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I am doing ALA only on myself and my 2 and 4 year old. I started with

DMPS but after a possible reaction by my 2 year old and a sore in my

mouth, I opted for ALA only. The most important thing was to keep

chelating in one form or another. As a comparison, I really could feel

the DMPS working in my body. I can feel the ALA sometimes too, but I

do think we may have more side effects than we would have had with the

DMPS. First, I have been dealing with yeast. Not really in myself

anymore (12 rounds done) and not in my 4 year old (8 rounds done), but

very much so in my 2 year old (6 rounds done). I use probiotics

aggressively and the anti-yeast in any case. My 4 year old has had a

herpes flair, but I just added some more anti-virals. My 2 year old

has had impetigo. I think that our systems are all working hard and

need to be supported. Who knows if that wouldn't have happened with

the DMPS only. Also, the chelation apparently will go slower.

Other things have been peeing in the pants, pooping in the pants (we

are potty trained), spitting, head in the sand. Generally, these

things happen between rounds. Right now the pee and poop situation are

under control, but today (we just ended a round yesterday). There was

head in the sand and laying around for the first time in a long time

and spitting. Neurologically, my 4 year old seems more with it and

better at tasking and not so ADD. He is the only one with noted

neurological issue (which got us all here in the first place).

I just did a hair test just before two rounds ago (i.e., Rounds 10, 6,

and 4), and heavy metals are up from 6 months ago. Mercury excretion

in the hair is up again for my 4 year old and lower (but kind of

bouncing around) for my 2 year old and consistently lower (since I

started measuring 1 1/2 years ago) in me. At the time of the hair

test, I had been chelating for 4 months and the kids for 2 months.

Lead (excretion in hair) is up 3 to 4 times in all of us, and this is

compared to all 4 hair tests we have done over the last 1 1/2 years.

I don't know how this jives with what Moria saying that ALA doesn't

chelate lead.

2 year old: was .63 now 2.1

4 year old: was .22 now .90

38 year old: was .11 now .33

We all lost our Uranium reading.

Other weird things were that both kids had sky high Nickel, Silver,

Titanium and the 2 year old Tin as well. I think the Silver is from

our spa. I used the Nature 2 thing to clean the water and it is Zinc

and Silver. Their Zinc was also bizarrely high as was Calcium (which I

had added to my spa water) and Copper and Magnesium. I think some of

this has to do with the swimming pool water and my spa water. The

Titanium could be from sun block? I try not to use block with crap

like this in it, but it looks like this could be it. I am wondering if

the Nature2 spa thing wasn't such a good idea.

Maureen

[Guest guest]

I read that chelation goes faster if you use DMSA and ALA (versus ALA

only). I think (not sure 100%) it is in Andy's book.

Dosage does not really change depending on the level of toxicity, but

the more the child is toxic, the lower you want to start to minimize

side effects.

I started chelating my son when he was 23 mo with 4mg of DMSA for 12

rounds, and then I added ALA. Today, after 50+ rounds, he takes 10 mg

and even if that sounds very low, he still makes significant progress.

> Hey everyone i was wondering if someone could give me feedback on

using ALA

> only to chelate. I am currently using PCA-Rx to chelate and have

come to

> realize that it is not working. Guess I should have listened but

wanted to

> give it a try. Anyway I was wondering what the pros and cons

were of

> chelating with ALA only. I know of some people that have used this

and done

> very well. Just wandering. My daughter is 23 months old and 22

lbs. She

> tested high for cadmium, arsenic, antimony, tin, lead, aluminum,

and off the

> charts for bismuth. This was a hair test. Her mercury levels were

minimal,

> but I still beleive she is mercury toxic. What would be the

dosage for a

> child this age and weight??? Does the level of toxicity change the

> dosage??? Thanks for the help!!!

>

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