Re: Need to talk......please read

[Guest guest]

Yep Mike you are right that was TMI.

I'll try and control myself

[Guest guest]

I'll encourage myself. :-P Besides...you give me plenty to work with!

W

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Mike Tune wrote:

> Shauna, don't encourage her! LOL......

>

[Guest guest]

,

I hope you realized I was playing.....We play a lot on this group....

Mike T

Re: Need to talk......please read

> Yep Mike you are right that was TMI.

>

> I'll try and control myself

>

>

>

>

>

> We are a very active support group.

> If the email becomes overwhelming,

> please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> Please contact Group Creator

> Robyn@...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This group just got interesting!!lol

Donna in CO

>

> Speaking of Showers

>

>

> I wonder how big a shower it would take to hold us all.

>

> what an idea, stuff a shower instead of a phone booth

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cathy ... the " sad butterfly in training " ,

I can so relate to how you are feeling. I am pre-op, too,

no date, yet. My daughter and son-in-law were here

for Christmas from CA (I am in Ohio). They left today

(waaaaa!) So, I have a case of the blues, too.

Also, lately, I feel that I have to defend my choice of surgery

to everyone. My daughter is now on a kick where she does

not think it is safe and does not want me having it. But then

again, she has never had a fat day in her life, so she just

doesn't " get it " .

I also think her mother-in-law (whom I dearly love) is putting

a lot of doubts in her head.... she is also a large woman, and

I wonder if that doesn't somehow come into play here.

Whenever the surgery is brought up around her mother-in-law,

she gets this worried look and shakes her head and looks at my

daughter, like it's the wrong choice. I am not sure how to handle

all of this.

Then, my cousin, who I am very close to (we talk every day) is

very non supportive of it. She just keeps saying stuff like 'the

people that have it done aren't telling you the truth - they all

have to have plastic surgery later and you are just setting yourself

\up for a lifetime of surgeries and maybe death " .

I guess that's why I haven't been posting lately, I feel totally

unsupported in this and that I am out there trying to face my

demons alone. Tonight, for New Year's Eve, I sat here alone

and just cried.

Joanie

[Guest guest]

Yep - I totally understand.WTG that is great.We all understand here

& know that is a great thing to accomplish!I can too with no

probs.Still like the clog look though,LOL

Kim in PA

RNY 6/23/06

298/205/135

> >> >> Hello all,

> >> >>

> >> >> Well, somehow the UPS guy came to my apartment without my

> > knowledge

> >> >> for a SECOND day! I was here all day. I ordered those darn

> > books

> >> >> with 1 day shipping from amazon. I'm really annoyed!!!!

> > Another

> >> >> sticky posty note on my door!

> >> >>

> >> >> Despite me trying to talk myself whenever I feel this

> > way....when I

> >> >> eat these days, I look at it and think " I guess I won't be

> > eating

> >> >> that anymore. " My sis in law who had the surgery 18 months

ago

> > told

> >> >> me I shouldn't think like that. I can't help it. I see

enough

> >> >> people for therapy and all, but I am having trouble

convincing

> > myself

> >> >> that I can eat some of the things I like, but down the

road.....

> >> >> Does anyone have any secrets on how to talk yourself out of

the

> >> >> premature feelings of " missing " food?

> >> >>

> >> >> I still have swelling in my lower legs, but it didn't happen

> >> >> overnight. My hands are a bit puffy still, but like I said

last

> >> >> night, my doctor said it wasn't significant to warrant

> > medication. I

> >> >> still have some Lasix from over the summer.....but I'm sort

of

> > afraid

> >> >> to take it without anyone knowing it (doctor-wise).

Although,

> > as I

> >> >> was leaving the office, he told me to " watch the salt. " I

> > guess it

> >> >> doesn't help that I put some soy sauce on my white rice and

> > chicken

> >> >> at dinner tonight. I tried to use it sparingly, but now I

feel

> > that

> >> >> it's all my fault.

> >> >>

> >> >> I found out that I can continue taking Seasonale (even after

> > surgery)

> >> >> if I use it just to keep my cycle regular. Not for birth

> > control. I

> >> >> don't have to worry about that for quite some time....it's

been

> > at

> >> >> least 3 YEARS since I've had to " concern myself " with birth

> > control

> >> >> for the actual purpose of preventing pregnancy, if you know

> > what I

> >> >> mean. (Whole other issue, which I hope will

> >> >> get " resolved " .......sometime after surgery.)

> >> >>

> >> >> Still having CPAP problems. I've woken up two mornings this

> > week

> >> >> with the mask on the floor AND the machine turned off!

> > Pulmonology

> >> >> doc said to keep trying.

> >> >>

> >> >> Another bunch of my " wishes " is to be able to get dressed and

> > put on

> >> >> my shoes without all the effort it takes me now. Walk

without

> > pain,

> >> >> stand without pain.....stop taking all the darn meds I have

to

> > take

> >> >> now. I still want 's secret, but it pales in

> > comparison to

> >> >> the ACTUAL reasons why I want this surgery so badly!

> >> >>

> >> >> I know it's been asked before, but would a " veteran " on here

> > tell me

> >> >> about a good high protein, unflavored protein powder? My

> >> >> nutritionist told me I should have 60 (is it mg or g?) of

> > protein per

> >> >> day. Does that sound about right to you guys?

> >> >>

> >> >> Sorry that this post is negative. I have my ups and downs

these

> >> >> days. I'm so glad you guys are all here for me.

> >> >>

> >> >> I think I'm going to watch a little TV now.

> >> >>

> >> >> Hugs to all,

> >> >> Love,

> >> >> Cathy

> >> >> a bit of a sad butterfly in training

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > We are a very active support group.

> >> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> >> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> >> > Please contact Group Creator

> >> > Robyn@

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

Yep Lin.We all had our tricks.Funny how we can accomodate ourselves

& learn to adapt to life.

Kim in PA

RNY 6/23/06

298/205/135

> >> >> Hello all,

> >> >>

> >> >> Well, somehow the UPS guy came to my apartment without my

> > knowledge

> >> >> for a SECOND day! I was here all day. I ordered those darn

> > books

> >> >> with 1 day shipping from amazon. I'm really annoyed!!!!

> > Another

> >> >> sticky posty note on my door!

> >> >>

> >> >> Despite me trying to talk myself whenever I feel this

> > way....when I

> >> >> eat these days, I look at it and think " I guess I won't be

> > eating

> >> >> that anymore. " My sis in law who had the surgery 18 months

ago

> > told

> >> >> me I shouldn't think like that. I can't help it. I see

enough

> >> >> people for therapy and all, but I am having trouble

convincing

> > myself

> >> >> that I can eat some of the things I like, but down the

road.....

> >> >> Does anyone have any secrets on how to talk yourself out of

the

> >> >> premature feelings of " missing " food?

> >> >>

> >> >> I still have swelling in my lower legs, but it didn't happen

> >> >> overnight. My hands are a bit puffy still, but like I said

last

> >> >> night, my doctor said it wasn't significant to warrant

> > medication. I

> >> >> still have some Lasix from over the summer.....but I'm sort

of

> > afraid

> >> >> to take it without anyone knowing it (doctor-wise).

Although,

> > as I

> >> >> was leaving the office, he told me to " watch the salt. " I

> > guess it

> >> >> doesn't help that I put some soy sauce on my white rice and

> > chicken

> >> >> at dinner tonight. I tried to use it sparingly, but now I

feel

> > that

> >> >> it's all my fault.

> >> >>

> >> >> I found out that I can continue taking Seasonale (even after

> > surgery)

> >> >> if I use it just to keep my cycle regular. Not for birth

> > control. I

> >> >> don't have to worry about that for quite some time....it's

been

> > at

> >> >> least 3 YEARS since I've had to " concern myself " with birth

> > control

> >> >> for the actual purpose of preventing pregnancy, if you know

> > what I

> >> >> mean. (Whole other issue, which I hope will

> >> >> get " resolved " .......sometime after surgery.)

> >> >>

> >> >> Still having CPAP problems. I've woken up two mornings this

> > week

> >> >> with the mask on the floor AND the machine turned off!

> > Pulmonology

> >> >> doc said to keep trying.

> >> >>

> >> >> Another bunch of my " wishes " is to be able to get dressed and

> > put on

> >> >> my shoes without all the effort it takes me now. Walk

without

> > pain,

> >> >> stand without pain.....stop taking all the darn meds I have

to

> > take

> >> >> now. I still want 's secret, but it pales in

> > comparison to

> >> >> the ACTUAL reasons why I want this surgery so badly!

> >> >>

> >> >> I know it's been asked before, but would a " veteran " on here

> > tell me

> >> >> about a good high protein, unflavored protein powder? My

> >> >> nutritionist told me I should have 60 (is it mg or g?) of

> > protein per

> >> >> day. Does that sound about right to you guys?

> >> >>

> >> >> Sorry that this post is negative. I have my ups and downs

these

> >> >> days. I'm so glad you guys are all here for me.

> >> >>

> >> >> I think I'm going to watch a little TV now.

> >> >>

> >> >> Hugs to all,

> >> >> Love,

> >> >> Cathy

> >> >> a bit of a sad butterfly in training

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > We are a very active support group.

> >> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> >> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> >> > Please contact Group Creator

> >> > Robyn@

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

this is sharmin call me know

Joan3424@... wrote: Cathy ... the " sad butterfly in training " ,

I can so relate to how you are feeling. I am pre-op, too,

no date, yet. My daughter and son-in-law were here

for Christmas from CA (I am in Ohio). They left today

(waaaaa!) So, I have a case of the blues, too.

Also, lately, I feel that I have to defend my choice of surgery

to everyone. My daughter is now on a kick where she does

not think it is safe and does not want me having it. But then

again, she has never had a fat day in her life, so she just

doesn't " get it " .

I also think her mother-in-law (whom I dearly love) is putting

a lot of doubts in her head.... she is also a large woman, and

I wonder if that doesn't somehow come into play here.

Whenever the surgery is brought up around her mother-in-law,

she gets this worried look and shakes her head and looks at my

daughter, like it's the wrong choice. I am not sure how to handle

all of this.

Then, my cousin, who I am very close to (we talk every day) is

very non supportive of it. She just keeps saying stuff like 'the

people that have it done aren't telling you the truth - they all

have to have plastic surgery later and you are just setting yourself

\up for a lifetime of surgeries and maybe death " .

I guess that's why I haven't been posting lately, I feel totally

unsupported in this and that I am out there trying to face my

demons alone. Tonight, for New Year's Eve, I sat here alone

and just cried.

Joanie

[Guest guest]

People are afraid of the unknown. My family and friends supported me but were

afraid for me. I dont think they can help it and I think it's natural. You just

have to work through it together. It is so important that they support you. Your

mental state in this has to be as positive as possible. You are not alone

Joanie... we are here for you, vent all you need here. Perhaps you can tell them

how you feel. Sit them all down and lay it on the line. This is how I feel and

want, either you can support me or dont say anything at all kind of a deal. You

can respect and hear what they say... but only once. Not every time you turn

around. Tell them that you need them to get through it successfully.

HUGS!

Shauna

Joan3424@... wrote:

Cathy ... the " sad butterfly in training " ,

I can so relate to how you are feeling. I am pre-op, too,

no date, yet. My daughter and son-in-law were here

for Christmas from CA (I am in Ohio). They left today

(waaaaa!) So, I have a case of the blues, too.

Also, lately, I feel that I have to defend my choice of surgery

to everyone. My daughter is now on a kick where she does

not think it is safe and does not want me having it. But then

again, she has never had a fat day in her life, so she just

doesn't " get it " .

I also think her mother-in-law (whom I dearly love) is putting

a lot of doubts in her head.... she is also a large woman, and

I wonder if that doesn't somehow come into play here.

Whenever the surgery is brought up around her mother-in-law,

she gets this worried look and shakes her head and looks at my

daughter, like it's the wrong choice. I am not sure how to handle

all of this.

Then, my cousin, who I am very close to (we talk every day) is

very non supportive of it. She just keeps saying stuff like 'the

people that have it done aren't telling you the truth - they all

have to have plastic surgery later and you are just setting yourself

\up for a lifetime of surgeries and maybe death " .

I guess that's why I haven't been posting lately, I feel totally

unsupported in this and that I am out there trying to face my

demons alone. Tonight, for New Year's Eve, I sat here alone

and just cried.

Joanie

[Guest guest]

I guess you learn little tricks and then do what you have to do.

Lin

422-338-250

Lhsh@...

American by birth,

Saved by the grace of God.

Re: Need to talk......please read

Yep Lin.We all had our tricks.Funny how we can accomodate ourselves

& learn to adapt to life.

Kim in PA

RNY 6/23/06

298/205/135

> >> >> Hello all,

> >> >>

> >> >> Well, somehow the UPS guy came to my apartment without my

> > knowledge

> >> >> for a SECOND day! I was here all day. I ordered those darn

> > books

> >> >> with 1 day shipping from amazon. I'm really annoyed!!!!

> > Another

> >> >> sticky posty note on my door!

> >> >>

> >> >> Despite me trying to talk myself whenever I feel this

> > way....when I

> >> >> eat these days, I look at it and think " I guess I won't be

> > eating

> >> >> that anymore. " My sis in law who had the surgery 18 months

ago

> > told

> >> >> me I shouldn't think like that. I can't help it. I see

enough

> >> >> people for therapy and all, but I am having trouble

convincing

> > myself

> >> >> that I can eat some of the things I like, but down the

road.....

> >> >> Does anyone have any secrets on how to talk yourself out of

the

> >> >> premature feelings of " missing " food?

> >> >>

> >> >> I still have swelling in my lower legs, but it didn't happen

> >> >> overnight. My hands are a bit puffy still, but like I said

last

> >> >> night, my doctor said it wasn't significant to warrant

> > medication. I

> >> >> still have some Lasix from over the summer.....but I'm sort

of

> > afraid

> >> >> to take it without anyone knowing it (doctor-wise).

Although,

> > as I

> >> >> was leaving the office, he told me to " watch the salt. " I

> > guess it

> >> >> doesn't help that I put some soy sauce on my white rice and

> > chicken

> >> >> at dinner tonight. I tried to use it sparingly, but now I

feel

> > that

> >> >> it's all my fault.

> >> >>

> >> >> I found out that I can continue taking Seasonale (even after

> > surgery)

> >> >> if I use it just to keep my cycle regular. Not for birth

> > control. I

> >> >> don't have to worry about that for quite some time....it's

been

> > at

> >> >> least 3 YEARS since I've had to " concern myself " with birth

> > control

> >> >> for the actual purpose of preventing pregnancy, if you know

> > what I

> >> >> mean. (Whole other issue, which I hope will

> >> >> get " resolved " .......sometime after surgery.)

> >> >>

> >> >> Still having CPAP problems. I've woken up two mornings this

> > week

> >> >> with the mask on the floor AND the machine turned off!

> > Pulmonology

> >> >> doc said to keep trying.

> >> >>

> >> >> Another bunch of my " wishes " is to be able to get dressed and

> > put on

> >> >> my shoes without all the effort it takes me now. Walk

without

> > pain,

> >> >> stand without pain.....stop taking all the darn meds I have

to

> > take

> >> >> now. I still want 's secret, but it pales in

> > comparison to

> >> >> the ACTUAL reasons why I want this surgery so badly!

> >> >>

> >> >> I know it's been asked before, but would a " veteran " on here

> > tell me

> >> >> about a good high protein, unflavored protein powder? My

> >> >> nutritionist told me I should have 60 (is it mg or g?) of

> > protein per

> >> >> day. Does that sound about right to you guys?

> >> >>

> >> >> Sorry that this post is negative. I have my ups and downs

these

> >> >> days. I'm so glad you guys are all here for me.

> >> >>

> >> >> I think I'm going to watch a little TV now.

> >> >>

> >> >> Hugs to all,

> >> >> Love,

> >> >> Cathy

> >> >> a bit of a sad butterfly in training

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > We are a very active support group.

> >> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> >> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> >> > Please contact Group Creator

> >> > Robyn@

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

Joanie you are not alone in this hun. You have us. You have to

remember why you are doing this. You are doing this for you. Not your

daughter. Not her mother in law. Not anyone but YOU! Yes they are

worried; but they are not informed like you are. You know that this is

what is best for you.

W

380/254/160

Joan3424@... wrote:

> Cathy ... the " sad butterfly in training " ,

>

> I can so relate to how you are feeling. I am pre-op, too,

> no date, yet. My daughter and son-in-law were here

> for Christmas from CA (I am in Ohio). They left today

> (waaaaa!) So, I have a case of the blues, too.

>

> Also, lately, I feel that I have to defend my choice of surgery

>

> to everyone. My daughter is now on a kick where she does

> not think it is safe and does not want me having it. But then

> again, she has never had a fat day in her life, so she just

> doesn't " get it " .

>

> I also think her mother-in-law (whom I dearly love) is putting

> a lot of doubts in her head.... she is also a large woman, and

> I wonder if that doesn't somehow come into play here.

> Whenever the surgery is brought up around her mother-in-law,

> she gets this worried look and shakes her head and looks at my

> daughter, like it's the wrong choice. I am not sure how to handle

> all of this.

>

> Then, my cousin, who I am very close to (we talk every day) is

> very non supportive of it. She just keeps saying stuff like 'the

> people that have it done aren't telling you the truth - they all

> have to have plastic surgery later and you are just setting yourself

> \up for a lifetime of surgeries and maybe death " .

>

> I guess that's why I haven't been posting lately, I feel totally

> unsupported in this and that I am out there trying to face my

> demons alone. Tonight, for New Year's Eve, I sat here alone

> and just cried.

>

> Joanie

>

[Guest guest]

You need to do what is best for you. Hopefully, at one point you can tell your

daughter how you feel. Risks of being obesity are so high.

Exercise and water intake will help in the need for plastic surgery. A

plastic surgeon said - it will help immensely.

Jackie in CA

Shauna Thalman shaunasings1974@...> wrote:

People are afraid of the unknown. My family and friends supported me

but were afraid for me. I dont think they can help it and I think it's natural.

You just have to work through it together. It is so important that they support

you. Your mental state in this has to be as positive as possible. You are not

alone Joanie... we are here for you, vent all you need here. Perhaps you can

tell them how you feel. Sit them all down and lay it on the line. This is how I

feel and want, either you can support me or dont say anything at all kind of a

deal. You can respect and hear what they say... but only once. Not every time

you turn around. Tell them that you need them to get through it successfully.

HUGS!

Shauna

Joan3424@... wrote:

Cathy ... the " sad butterfly in training " ,

I can so relate to how you are feeling. I am pre-op, too,

no date, yet. My daughter and son-in-law were here

for Christmas from CA (I am in Ohio). They left today

(waaaaa!) So, I have a case of the blues, too.

Also, lately, I feel that I have to defend my choice of surgery

to everyone. My daughter is now on a kick where she does

not think it is safe and does not want me having it. But then

again, she has never had a fat day in her life, so she just

doesn't " get it " .

I also think her mother-in-law (whom I dearly love) is putting

a lot of doubts in her head.... she is also a large woman, and

I wonder if that doesn't somehow come into play here.

Whenever the surgery is brought up around her mother-in-law,

she gets this worried look and shakes her head and looks at my

daughter, like it's the wrong choice. I am not sure how to handle

all of this.

Then, my cousin, who I am very close to (we talk every day) is

very non supportive of it. She just keeps saying stuff like 'the

people that have it done aren't telling you the truth - they all

have to have plastic surgery later and you are just setting yourself

\up for a lifetime of surgeries and maybe death " .

I guess that's why I haven't been posting lately, I feel totally

unsupported in this and that I am out there trying to face my

demons alone. Tonight, for New Year's Eve, I sat here alone

and just cried.

Joanie

[Guest guest]

Joanie, Don't listen to negative people! Most of the time they are

like that because they are jealous! My mom was unsupportive but once I

had the surgery she was okay, she said she was worried about me but I

know she was jealous too! I have lost 161 lbs and I now weigh 132 lbs

and wear a size 4 or 6 and I have no plans on having plastic surgery,

I have had some people tell me they thought I already had plastic

surgery! I have met lots of people that haven't had plastics done and

they look great! So.... tell the person who said post ops aren't

telling the truth that they are wrong. Look at all the pictures

posted!! Take Care and keep your chin up! We are all here for you!

in CA