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Her loss Mike! :o)

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> > >

> > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > >

> > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > >

> > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he says.

> And,

> > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

way. " If

> you

> > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch of

> penis

> > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of extra

> > weight,

> > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround the

> > shaft.

> > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > >

> > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right? If I

> was

> > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

about

> > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

> really

> > > bad news for back then.

> > >

> > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> advertise

> > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

say,

> > > 70lbs or so?

> > >

> > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > >

> >

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Maybe. I don't like seeing anyone lose their self identity in their

family, career and/or perpetuating the drudgary of everyday life. But

then I did that and maybe she enjoys it and I'm just passing

judgement through my view of the world.

I'm not going to be the one to initiate contact to do " friend "

things. She's said she wants to remain friends ( " I really don't think

it will ever become anything but friends...I do not want to lose our

friendship. That will be up to you. " ) and I've confirmed my interest

in that: " We may have been looking for different things recently. Our

friendship is important to me too. I would like us and our kids to

spend some time together again. " As far as I'm concerned I'm done

trying to fit into her schedule and perceived boundaries of our

relationship or lack there of. If she truly wants to make an effort

to remain friends then she can call me, anytime, for anything and

I'll gracefully and happily accomidate her as a friend.

Personally, I predict she won't " be friends " with me. I believe my

flexible schedule and ability to be constantly positive even when

getting dealt a hand of complete crap from work, family or life in

general pisses a lot of people off. I guess I have to learn how to

handle stress better maybe? Yeah right. Also she mentioned in her

letter to me that there are " things " she just can't look past when

we're together. Now someone help me here, how do you remain friends

with someone who you notice " things " about that you just can't look

beyond and that are constantly on your mind when you're with them

(her words paraphrased).

Sheesh I'm rambling bad today. Ah well.

Mike in GR

> > > >

> > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > > >

> > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > > >

> > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

says.

> > And,

> > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> way. " If

> > you

> > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch of

> > penis

> > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of extra

> > > weight,

> > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround the

> > > shaft.

> > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > > >

> > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right? If

I

> > was

> > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

> about

> > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

> > really

> > > > bad news for back then.

> > > >

> > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> > advertise

> > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

> say,

> > > > 70lbs or so?

> > > >

> > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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I really love the idea of being friends first. I believe in many cases, it

builds a great foundation for a strong relationship and you are not distracted

from what is important and that's learning the person and appreciating them

before jumping in. It is important to me to get to know someone well before I

decide to make a commitment. I like the " friend " thing for a while, then the

" dating " if the friendship is going well and both feel like giving it a try, and

then go from there. I have found that jumping from strangers to dating in my

experience has done me no justice, of course niether has my pick in men LOL! I

know this is not always the case. Sometimes you can like someone right off and

then just take it slow and see what forms from both sides and if friends is all

it get's past, well then so be it. You just made a new friend.

Mike, I understand what you are saying here. You cannot rework your whole

schedule on a regular basis for a " friend " . If she wants to remain in your life,

she will.

Mike websculpt@...> wrote:

Maybe. I don't like seeing anyone lose their self identity in their

family, career and/or perpetuating the drudgary of everyday life. But

then I did that and maybe she enjoys it and I'm just passing

judgement through my view of the world.

I'm not going to be the one to initiate contact to do " friend "

things. She's said she wants to remain friends ( " I really don't think

it will ever become anything but friends...I do not want to lose our

friendship. That will be up to you. " ) and I've confirmed my interest

in that: " We may have been looking for different things recently. Our

friendship is important to me too. I would like us and our kids to

spend some time together again. " As far as I'm concerned I'm done

trying to fit into her schedule and perceived boundaries of our

relationship or lack there of. If she truly wants to make an effort

to remain friends then she can call me, anytime, for anything and

I'll gracefully and happily accomidate her as a friend.

Personally, I predict she won't " be friends " with me. I believe my

flexible schedule and ability to be constantly positive even when

getting dealt a hand of complete crap from work, family or life in

general pisses a lot of people off. I guess I have to learn how to

handle stress better maybe? Yeah right. Also she mentioned in her

letter to me that there are " things " she just can't look past when

we're together. Now someone help me here, how do you remain friends

with someone who you notice " things " about that you just can't look

beyond and that are constantly on your mind when you're with them

(her words paraphrased).

Sheesh I'm rambling bad today. Ah well.

Mike in GR

> > > >

> > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > > >

> > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > > >

> > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

says.

> > And,

> > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> way. " If

> > you

> > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch of

> > penis

> > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of extra

> > > weight,

> > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround the

> > > shaft.

> > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > > >

> > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right? If

I

> > was

> > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

> about

> > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

> > really

> > > > bad news for back then.

> > > >

> > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> > advertise

> > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

> say,

> > > > 70lbs or so?

> > > >

> > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Sounds like her loss. Shame you don't live closer, I could think of a few people

who could use a guy like you, and would be not only grateful for, but happy with

your ability to be positive and flexible. Not to mention the fact that you are

pretty cute in your own right :) Anytime you wish to share the other dramas, or

just talk, let me know, I hear I have a pretty good shoulder, you know the deal,

went to school to be a therapist.. Kids came along, couldn't finish school, so I

did the next best thing and became a bartender. ;)

Donna in VA

LAP RNY 9-18-06

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Re: Finally a post for the guys!

Maybe. I don't like seeing anyone lose their self identity in their

family, career and/or perpetuating the drudgary of everyday life. But

then I did that and maybe she enjoys it and I'm just passing

judgement through my view of the world.

I'm not going to be the one to initiate contact to do " friend "

things. She's said she wants to remain friends ( " I really don't think

it will ever become anything but friends...I do not want to lose our

friendship. That will be up to you. " ) and I've confirmed my interest

in that: " We may have been looking for different things recently. Our

friendship is important to me too. I would like us and our kids to

spend some time together again. " As far as I'm concerned I'm done

trying to fit into her schedule and perceived boundaries of our

relationship or lack there of. If she truly wants to make an effort

to remain friends then she can call me, anytime, for anything and

I'll gracefully and happily accomidate her as a friend.

Personally, I predict she won't " be friends " with me. I believe my

flexible schedule and ability to be constantly positive even when

getting dealt a hand of complete crap from work, family or life in

general pisses a lot of people off. I guess I have to learn how to

handle stress better maybe? Yeah right. Also she mentioned in her

letter to me that there are " things " she just can't look past when

we're together. Now someone help me here, how do you remain friends

with someone who you notice " things " about that you just can't look

beyond and that are constantly on your mind when you're with them

(her words paraphrased).

Sheesh I'm rambling bad today. Ah well.

Mike in GR

> > > >

> > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > > >

> > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > > >

> > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

says.

> > And,

> > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> way. " If

> > you

> > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch of

> > penis

> > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of extra

> > > weight,

> > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround the

> > > shaft.

> > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > > >

> > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right? If

I

> > was

> > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

> about

> > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

> > really

> > > > bad news for back then.

> > > >

> > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> > advertise

> > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

> say,

> > > > 70lbs or so?

> > > >

> > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Mike,

Sorry she dumped that crap about not being able to look past things on

you....Like she is so perfect! LOL......

Keep your head up buddy, sounds like the line is forming on this board

for a date with the Mike-ster!

Mike T

Re: Finally a post for the guys!

> Maybe. I don't like seeing anyone lose their self identity in their

> family, career and/or perpetuating the drudgary of everyday life. But

> then I did that and maybe she enjoys it and I'm just passing

> judgement through my view of the world.

>

> I'm not going to be the one to initiate contact to do " friend "

> things. She's said she wants to remain friends ( " I really don't think

> it will ever become anything but friends...I do not want to lose our

> friendship. That will be up to you. " ) and I've confirmed my interest

> in that: " We may have been looking for different things recently. Our

> friendship is important to me too. I would like us and our kids to

> spend some time together again. " As far as I'm concerned I'm done

> trying to fit into her schedule and perceived boundaries of our

> relationship or lack there of. If she truly wants to make an effort

> to remain friends then she can call me, anytime, for anything and

> I'll gracefully and happily accomidate her as a friend.

>

> Personally, I predict she won't " be friends " with me. I believe my

> flexible schedule and ability to be constantly positive even when

> getting dealt a hand of complete crap from work, family or life in

> general pisses a lot of people off. I guess I have to learn how to

> handle stress better maybe? Yeah right. Also she mentioned in her

> letter to me that there are " things " she just can't look past when

> we're together. Now someone help me here, how do you remain friends

> with someone who you notice " things " about that you just can't look

> beyond and that are constantly on your mind when you're with them

> (her words paraphrased).

>

> Sheesh I'm rambling bad today. Ah well.

>

> Mike in GR

>

>

>> > > >

>> > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

>> > > >

>> > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

>> > > >

>> > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

> says.

>> > And,

>> > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

>> way. " If

>> > you

>> > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch of

>> > penis

>> > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of extra

>> > > weight,

>> > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround the

>> > > shaft.

>> > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

>> > > >

>> > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right? If

> I

>> > was

>> > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

>> about

>> > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

>> > really

>> > > > bad news for back then.

>> > > >

>> > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

>> > advertise

>> > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

>> say,

>> > > > 70lbs or so?

>> > > >

>> > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

>

>

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Nah I keep my schedule pretty flexible specifically so I can be a

lisocial with friends a other adults, work, etc. But I just don't

think she's going to take advantage of that for whatever reasons and

it sounds like she has many. I guess if someone has a lot of reasons,

even if they're not all bad or personal or whatever that they don't

want to be around with me than she's doing the polite thing by not

wasting either of our time with it. I guess I'm either really

desparate or not uptight enough to let much bother me, at least short

term.

Mike

> > > > >

> > > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > > > >

> > > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

> says.

> > > And,

> > > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> > way. " If

> > > you

> > > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch

of

> > > penis

> > > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of

extra

> > > > weight,

> > > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround

the

> > > > shaft.

> > > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right?

If

> I

> > > was

> > > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

> > about

> > > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

> > > really

> > > > > bad news for back then.

> > > > >

> > > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> > > advertise

> > > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

> > say,

> > > > > 70lbs or so?

> > > > >

> > > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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OMG is RIGHT!

Now I have to get a cold shower!

Judy

Re: Finally a post for the guys!

OMG I'm PIMP!!!!!

>

> My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

>

> http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

>

> " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he says.

And,

> losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another way. " If

you

> lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch of

penis

> length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of extra

weight,

> Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround the

shaft.

> As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

>

> Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right? If I was

> 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost about

> 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or really

> bad news for back then.

>

> While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely advertise

> this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we say,

> 70lbs or so?

>

> Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

>

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Hey Mike,

I'm sorry to hear that. She looked promising and you both looked

good together.

As they say, there are other fishes in the sea. Sorry for the cliche.

Hang in ther,

Hugs,

Cathy

butterfly in training

> > >

> > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > >

> > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > >

> > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he says.

> And,

> > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another way. " If

> you

> > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch of

> penis

> > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of extra

> > weight,

> > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround the

> > shaft.

> > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > >

> > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right? If I

> was

> > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

about

> > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

> really

> > > bad news for back then.

> > >

> > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> advertise

> > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

say,

> > > 70lbs or so?

> > >

> > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > >

> >

>

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I agree with someone who said earlier that it was her loss and she will just

have to get over it.

Lin

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Saved by the grace of God.

Re: Finally a post for the guys!

> Maybe. I don't like seeing anyone lose their self identity in their

> family, career and/or perpetuating the drudgary of everyday life. But

> then I did that and maybe she enjoys it and I'm just passing

> judgement through my view of the world.

>

> I'm not going to be the one to initiate contact to do " friend "

> things. She's said she wants to remain friends ( " I really don't think

> it will ever become anything but friends...I do not want to lose our

> friendship. That will be up to you. " ) and I've confirmed my interest

> in that: " We may have been looking for different things recently. Our

> friendship is important to me too. I would like us and our kids to

> spend some time together again. " As far as I'm concerned I'm done

> trying to fit into her schedule and perceived boundaries of our

> relationship or lack there of. If she truly wants to make an effort

> to remain friends then she can call me, anytime, for anything and

> I'll gracefully and happily accomidate her as a friend.

>

> Personally, I predict she won't " be friends " with me. I believe my

> flexible schedule and ability to be constantly positive even when

> getting dealt a hand of complete crap from work, family or life in

> general pisses a lot of people off. I guess I have to learn how to

> handle stress better maybe? Yeah right. Also she mentioned in her

> letter to me that there are " things " she just can't look past when

> we're together. Now someone help me here, how do you remain friends

> with someone who you notice " things " about that you just can't look

> beyond and that are constantly on your mind when you're with them

> (her words paraphrased).

>

> Sheesh I'm rambling bad today. Ah well.

>

> Mike in GR

>

>

>> > > >

>> > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

>> > > >

>> > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

>> > > >

>> > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

> says.

>> > And,

>> > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

>> way. " If

>> > you

>> > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch of

>> > penis

>> > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of extra

>> > > weight,

>> > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround the

>> > > shaft.

>> > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

>> > > >

>> > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right? If

> I

>> > was

>> > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

>> about

>> > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

>> > really

>> > > > bad news for back then.

>> > > >

>> > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

>> > advertise

>> > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

>> say,

>> > > > 70lbs or so?

>> > > >

>> > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

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She did this in a letter and not face to face? What a chicken sh** way

out....

I was thinking that the " things " she can't look past doesn't seem so

bizarre to me. Sometimes things that are bothersome as a couple are

not so as friends. My best friend Bill is actually my ex-fiancee. We

have many things in common and get along really well as friends but

cannot function as a couple. He gets so caught up in personal

interests that he won't clean the house, he doesn't take the time to

pay bills on time, etc. When we were a couple all of those things fell

to me because I couldn't just let them go. Then I ended up being a nag

and we fought. Since the cleanliness of the house and the bills are no

longer my concern, we get along much better.

> > > > >

> > > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > > > >

> > > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

> says.

> > > And,

> > > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> > way. " If

> > > you

> > > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch of

> > > penis

> > > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of extra

> > > > weight,

> > > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround the

> > > > shaft.

> > > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right? If

> I

> > > was

> > > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

> > about

> > > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

> > > really

> > > > > bad news for back then.

> > > > >

> > > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> > > advertise

> > > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

> > say,

> > > > > 70lbs or so?

> > > > >

> > > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Don't sell yourself short Mike T. Maybe you should make that Mike-sters.

- In GastricBypass-LOSERS , " Mike Tune "

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>

> Mike,

> Sorry she dumped that crap about not being able to look past

things on

> you....Like she is so perfect! LOL......

>

> Keep your head up buddy, sounds like the line is forming on this

board

> for a date with the Mike-ster!

>

> Mike T

>

> Re: Finally a post for the guys!

>

>

> > Maybe. I don't like seeing anyone lose their self identity in their

> > family, career and/or perpetuating the drudgary of everyday life. But

> > then I did that and maybe she enjoys it and I'm just passing

> > judgement through my view of the world.

> >

> > I'm not going to be the one to initiate contact to do " friend "

> > things. She's said she wants to remain friends ( " I really don't think

> > it will ever become anything but friends...I do not want to lose our

> > friendship. That will be up to you. " ) and I've confirmed my interest

> > in that: " We may have been looking for different things recently. Our

> > friendship is important to me too. I would like us and our kids to

> > spend some time together again. " As far as I'm concerned I'm done

> > trying to fit into her schedule and perceived boundaries of our

> > relationship or lack there of. If she truly wants to make an effort

> > to remain friends then she can call me, anytime, for anything and

> > I'll gracefully and happily accomidate her as a friend.

> >

> > Personally, I predict she won't " be friends " with me. I believe my

> > flexible schedule and ability to be constantly positive even when

> > getting dealt a hand of complete crap from work, family or life in

> > general pisses a lot of people off. I guess I have to learn how to

> > handle stress better maybe? Yeah right. Also she mentioned in her

> > letter to me that there are " things " she just can't look past when

> > we're together. Now someone help me here, how do you remain friends

> > with someone who you notice " things " about that you just can't look

> > beyond and that are constantly on your mind when you're with them

> > (her words paraphrased).

> >

> > Sheesh I'm rambling bad today. Ah well.

> >

> > Mike in GR

> >

> >

> >> > > >

> >> > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> >> > > >

> >> > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

> > says.

> >> > And,

> >> > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> >> way. " If

> >> > you

> >> > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch of

> >> > penis

> >> > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of extra

> >> > > weight,

> >> > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround the

> >> > > shaft.

> >> > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right? If

> > I

> >> > was

> >> > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

> >> about

> >> > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

> >> > really

> >> > > > bad news for back then.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> >> > advertise

> >> > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

> >> say,

> >> > > > 70lbs or so?

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> >> > > >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > We are a very active support group.

> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > Please contact Group Creator

> > Robyn@...

> >

> >

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I agree with you 100% Shauna. I've never understood how total

strangers can meet and go straight to serious dating. There are too

many things that you don't know about the other person and you could

be totally incompatible. I think that compatibility is much more

important than that initial " wow " factor with dating. That part

doesn't typically last and if you have nothing in common the

relationship just won't work.

I have to say that she must be nuts or have serious issues herself for

not wanting to pursue something with Mike. It's obvious he is a great

guy and was willing to accept her and her kids as well. Her loss......

> > > > >

> > > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > > > >

> > > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

> says.

> > > And,

> > > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> > way. " If

> > > you

> > > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch of

> > > penis

> > > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of extra

> > > > weight,

> > > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround the

> > > > shaft.

> > > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right? If

> I

> > > was

> > > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

> > about

> > > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

> > > really

> > > > > bad news for back then.

> > > > >

> > > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> > > advertise

> > > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

> > say,

> > > > > 70lbs or so?

> > > > >

> > > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Bottom line: It is OVER. You are right; she's going to

notice " things " even as friends. Really, do you want friends around

like that? I don't.

> Maybe. I don't like seeing anyone lose their self identity in

their

> family, career and/or perpetuating the drudgary of everyday life.

But

> then I did that and maybe she enjoys it and I'm just passing

> judgement through my view of the world.

>

> I'm not going to be the one to initiate contact to do " friend "

> things. She's said she wants to remain friends ( " I really don't

think

> it will ever become anything but friends...I do not want to lose

our

> friendship. That will be up to you. " ) and I've confirmed my

interest

> in that: " We may have been looking for different things recently.

Our

> friendship is important to me too. I would like us and our kids to

> spend some time together again. " As far as I'm concerned I'm done

> trying to fit into her schedule and perceived boundaries of our

> relationship or lack there of. If she truly wants to make an

effort

> to remain friends then she can call me, anytime, for anything and

> I'll gracefully and happily accomidate her as a friend.

>

> Personally, I predict she won't " be friends " with me. I believe my

> flexible schedule and ability to be constantly positive even when

> getting dealt a hand of complete crap from work, family or life in

> general pisses a lot of people off. I guess I have to learn how to

> handle stress better maybe? Yeah right. Also she mentioned in her

> letter to me that there are " things " she just can't look past when

> we're together. Now someone help me here, how do you remain

friends

> with someone who you notice " things " about that you just can't

look

> beyond and that are constantly on your mind when you're with them

> (her words paraphrased).

>

> Sheesh I'm rambling bad today. Ah well.

>

> Mike in GR

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > > > >

> > > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

> says.

> > > And,

> > > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> > way. " If

> > > you

> > > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch

of

> > > penis

> > > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of

extra

> > > > weight,

> > > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround

the

> > > > shaft.

> > > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right?

If

> I

> > > was

> > > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've

lost

> > about

> > > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now

or

> > > really

> > > > > bad news for back then.

> > > > >

> > > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> > > advertise

> > > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall

we

> > say,

> > > > > 70lbs or so?

> > > > >

> > > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Thanks Lin and others. She's already emailed me twice since my

response. Once to ask about a couple small photo albums I was going

to scan in for her parents (which I had already completed and made

arrangements with her father to drop off). She also talked about her

day and boredom at work. I responded in kind. We did this a few times

while we were " dating " too.

The other email was sent to myself and a half dozen others. It was a

joke type of email. My ex-wife and other friends do this to/for me

too. I'm sort of a nerd and overly professional in my communications

so I'd say 75% of the time these sorts of emails are lost on me at

best or serve to irritate or confuse me as to why I'd be interested.

I know I'm uptight however I wonder if I've now migrated to some

group in her address book that's destined to receive these sorts of

things often as a sort of feigned interest and maintenance of

friendship.

I do admit to enjoy hearing about her day and responding briefly

about my day. I think the reason I enjoyed it so much now is because

I don't desire to be part of her day, week etc. since she's not

interested in that and it was/is very hard work and almost impossible

to be that way with her considering how much time she spends in the

futility that, unfortuantly, is her outside work life.

I also now see why I've dated little in the past and have few friends

with the lack of activity I had outside of work when I was heavy. I

still sometimes think I was happy back then but I'm pretty sure I'm

happier now with what I perceive as more time. It's strange that the

more I do and busier I am the more time I have to do things I like.

Mike in GR

> >> > > >

> >> > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> >> > > >

> >> > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

> > says.

> >> > And,

> >> > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> >> way. " If

> >> > you

> >> > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch

of

> >> > penis

> >> > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of

extra

> >> > > weight,

> >> > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround

the

> >> > > shaft.

> >> > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right?

If

> > I

> >> > was

> >> > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

> >> about

> >> > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

> >> > really

> >> > > > bad news for back then.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> >> > advertise

> >> > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

> >> say,

> >> > > > 70lbs or so?

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> >> > > >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > We are a very active support group.

> > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > Please contact Group Creator

> > Robyn@...

> >

> >

> >

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I should mention that when I was 18 and she was 15 we spent a good 6-

18 months with me being her friend/puppy driving her around and

spending time with her in high school. We sort of lost track after

high school when I went to college. It's possible some of what she

has a problem with is what she once said about my voice still

sounding like it did when I was in high school. So does hers though.

I guess I see that as sort of cute. It's interesting how people

perceive things differently.

Mike in GR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

> > says.

> > > > And,

> > > > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> > > way. " If

> > > > you

> > > > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one

inch of

> > > > penis

> > > > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of

extra

> > > > > weight,

> > > > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround

the

> > > > > shaft.

> > > > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right?

If

> > I

> > > > was

> > > > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've

lost

> > > about

> > > > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now

or

> > > > really

> > > > > > bad news for back then.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> > > > advertise

> > > > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall

we

> > > say,

> > > > > > 70lbs or so?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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I wasn't going to respond to this post but decided to anyways...I

have never been friends with a man before dating and going into a

serious relationship---I either wanted him or not...I know it sounds

bad, but if I want friends then I can be friends with anyone

male/female -- I'm a passion/romance junkie -- Yes, this does tend

to get one burned but then again you do get lucky at times... My

friends say I am " balls to the wall or nothing at alll " !!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive,

he

> > > says.

> > > > > And,

> > > > > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> > > > way. " If

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one

> inch of

> > > > > penis

> > > > > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot

of

> extra

> > > > > > weight,

> > > > > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to

surround

> the

> > > > > > shaft.

> > > > > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out

right?

> If

> > > I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've

> lost

> > > > about

> > > > > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news

now

> or

> > > > > really

> > > > > > > bad news for back then.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can

discretely

> > > > > advertise

> > > > > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh

shall

> we

> > > > say,

> > > > > > > 70lbs or so?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

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So I'm a little interested in the last paragraph. I have always

thought of myself as a loner and never had more than 2-3 friends (if

that) at any given time. And those were typically through school or

work. I only see Bill (who is my best friend and lives 4 miles from

me) one day a week and only talk to him maybe 2 times a week if one of

us needs something.

When I was an undergrad I hung out at a local bar 3-4 nights a week

with a couple of friends, got very little sleep, and still managed to

get through school and work. I weighed a lot less, but was also a lot

younger. I don't know how I did it.

Then I went to grad school and packed on the pounds. Now, I tell

myself that I am too busy to do much and I stay at work until almost 7

pm every day. Then I go home, eat, watch TV, and go to bed. I wonder

if this " behavior " is weight related and if I will change as the

weight comes off? It's hard to know since I've been that way for so

long but reading your post gives me hope that my outlook will change.

in MI

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive, he

> > > says.

> > >> > And,

> > >> > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> > >> way. " If

> > >> > you

> > >> > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch

> of

> > >> > penis

> > >> > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot of

> extra

> > >> > > weight,

> > >> > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to surround

> the

> > >> > > shaft.

> > >> > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out right?

> If

> > > I

> > >> > was

> > >> > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've lost

> > >> about

> > >> > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news now or

> > >> > really

> > >> > > > bad news for back then.

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can discretely

> > >> > advertise

> > >> > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh shall we

> > >> say,

> > >> > > > 70lbs or so?

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > >> > > >

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > We are a very active support group.

> > > If the email becomes overwhelming,

> > > please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> > > Please contact Group Creator

> > > Robyn@

> > >

> > >

> > >

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You're a lot braver girl than I am. My best friend growing up was like

that. I never could understand how she just met a guy and was almost

instantly in love/lust with him. I'm just more of a practical type

than an emotional type I guess.

in MI

-- In GastricBypass-LOSERS , " lisamathis76 "

wrote:

>

> I wasn't going to respond to this post but decided to anyways...I

> have never been friends with a man before dating and going into a

> serious relationship---I either wanted him or not...I know it sounds

> bad, but if I want friends then I can be friends with anyone

> male/female -- I'm a passion/romance junkie -- Yes, this does tend

> to get one burned but then again you do get lucky at times... My

> friends say I am " balls to the wall or nothing at alll " !!!

>

>

>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My female older cousin told me about this tonight.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/ym6g6l

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " Losing weight then tends to increase your sex drive,

> he

> > > > says.

> > > > > > And,

> > > > > > > > losing weight improves the sex lives of men in another

> > > > > way. " If

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one

> > inch of

> > > > > > penis

> > > > > > > > length, " he says. Often when a man is carrying a lot

> of

> > extra

> > > > > > > weight,

> > > > > > > > Dr. Oz says a fat bundle builds up and starts to

> surround

> > the

> > > > > > > shaft.

> > > > > > > > As a man drops the weight, that fat starts to recede. "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now you know I had to sit down and figure this out

> right?

> > If

> > > > I

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > 491 in August of 2005 and I'm 270 now. That means I've

> > lost

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > > 6.25 blocks of 35lbs. That's either really good news

> now

> > or

> > > > > > really

> > > > > > > > bad news for back then.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > While I'm wondering if there's some way I can

> discretely

> > > > > > advertise

> > > > > > > > this I also have new incentive to lose another, oh

> shall

> > we

> > > > > say,

> > > > > > > > 70lbs or so?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mike in GR (just call me Mr. Tripod)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________

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I understand what you mean, I have to be friends first, I have to dig

their sense of humor, I love a good looking man, but I'd rather have

one not so good looking if he has a good sense of humor and is not

vain or arrogant.

When I was single, some 10 yeara ago, at 40, I was lucky and only

looked about 35 to 38. But I had a problem with guys that age then

because they didn't seem to let their sense of humor out. They knew

how to be charming and romantic, but to me it takes more, you got to

get my ears excited before we go any further.

I'm lucky I found one of those guys, but he can also piss me off in a

New York Second, so its always the good and the bad, but the passion

runs both ways. so Heck I could't wait to marry the darn stinker.

still like love and even like him.

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:) you are right passion can run both ways!

>

> lisamathis76

>

> I understand what you mean, I have to be friends first, I have to

dig

> their sense of humor, I love a good looking man, but I'd rather

have

> one not so good looking if he has a good sense of humor and is not

> vain or arrogant.

>

> When I was single, some 10 yeara ago, at 40, I was lucky and only

> looked about 35 to 38. But I had a problem with guys that age then

> because they didn't seem to let their sense of humor out. They

knew

> how to be charming and romantic, but to me it takes more, you got

to

> get my ears excited before we go any further.

>

> I'm lucky I found one of those guys, but he can also piss me off

in a

> New York Second, so its always the good and the bad, but the

passion

> runs both ways. so Heck I could't wait to marry the darn stinker.

> still like love and even like him.

>

>

>

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I love a guy that can make me laugh at nearly any time. I find it an extreme

turn on. I also find that if they can be confident to be themselves very

attractive as well.

magnoliamouth karenostrom@...> wrote: lisamathis76

I understand what you mean, I have to be friends first, I have to dig

their sense of humor, I love a good looking man, but I'd rather have

one not so good looking if he has a good sense of humor and is not

vain or arrogant.

When I was single, some 10 yeara ago, at 40, I was lucky and only

looked about 35 to 38. But I had a problem with guys that age then

because they didn't seem to let their sense of humor out. They knew

how to be charming and romantic, but to me it takes more, you got to

get my ears excited before we go any further.

I'm lucky I found one of those guys, but he can also piss me off in a

New York Second, so its always the good and the bad, but the passion

runs both ways. so Heck I could't wait to marry the darn stinker.

still like love and even like him.

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He may piss you off, but isn't it fun to make up?

Not that I actually remember what that's like or anything....

You are so right though. It may sound like a cliche but a sense of

humor (I like sarcastic humor) and intelligence are the 2 most

important things to me. I think that's why I don't jump into things

and end up being friends first.

in MI

>

> lisamathis76

>

> I understand what you mean, I have to be friends first, I have to dig

> their sense of humor, I love a good looking man, but I'd rather have

> one not so good looking if he has a good sense of humor and is not

> vain or arrogant.

>

> When I was single, some 10 yeara ago, at 40, I was lucky and only

> looked about 35 to 38. But I had a problem with guys that age then

> because they didn't seem to let their sense of humor out. They knew

> how to be charming and romantic, but to me it takes more, you got to

> get my ears excited before we go any further.

>

> I'm lucky I found one of those guys, but he can also piss me off in a

> New York Second, so its always the good and the bad, but the passion

> runs both ways. so Heck I could't wait to marry the darn stinker.

> still like love and even like him.

>

>

>

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You are right making up can be hot! Even at mine and the hubs ages.

OF course not having to make up can be hot too.

I like to play practical jokes on him, he is like a straight man to my

funny man personality, but I like springing things on him.

hint: one time the french maid outfit. I didn't do it because I knew

he would like it, I did it to watch the shock on his face, he just

never suspects stuff like that.

Just wait, have I got plenty of evil ideas to try out.

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You know that now you've posted this you're going to get the guys

asking for pics of the french maid outfit. LOL!

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> You are right making up can be hot! Even at mine and the hubs ages.

> OF course not having to make up can be hot too.

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> I like to play practical jokes on him, he is like a straight man to my

> funny man personality, but I like springing things on him.

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> hint: one time the french maid outfit. I didn't do it because I knew

> he would like it, I did it to watch the shock on his face, he just

> never suspects stuff like that.

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> Just wait, have I got plenty of evil ideas to try out.

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The french maid outfit is not that showy at all so who knows, when the

pounds are off maybe I'll post one in it, a very clean version you can

bet!!!!!!!!

LOL I'm just an evil old woman.

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