Re: HELP! School district rejected religious obje ction to vaccinations!

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I got told the same thing. The letter, and my assertion of following

through with a lawsuit made them back down....real quick. Once the realize you

are not afraid, and you are not an idiot, they usually will concede.

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-- " jonastesla " <jonastesla@...> wrote:

Our principal said that our district's rules are more strict than the

IL law and therefore no kids without current vaccines can even attend

school. Vaccinations must be current by the first day of school.

I think my new letter should put them in their place.

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[Guest guest]

1. How can " district rules " override state laws?

2. How to legally avoid immunizations:

http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/legally_avoid_shots.htm

> Our principal said that our district's rules are more strict than

the

> IL law and therefore no kids without current vaccines can even

attend

> school. Vaccinations must be current by the first day of school.

>

> I think my new letter should put them in their place.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

We recently had an attorney present locally (I'm in NJ), and here

are snippets of what he said:

-Every state allows religious exemptions (states vary on the other

exemption types).

-NJ also offers medical exemption, but the medical exemption can

only be signed by a physician, osteopath, or certified registered

nurse; and must follow guidelines as to what is a legitimate medical

contraindication (eg AIDS)

-Any religion qualifies for this religious exemption, not just

recognized organizations. This means your own religion qualifies.

-Private schools, daycares, camps can use their own discretion as to

whether they want to accept a child with an exemption. A public

school summer program probably would adhere to the public school

rules, meaning they would accept an exemption.

-The religious exemption letter to the school should be just that -

of a religious nature. No philosophical, no medical, no moral. Do

not state anything about immunizations causing health problems, for

example.

-The letter should go to the school nurse and/or the superintendent.

The super and/or Board of Ed makes the decision as to whether to

accept or deny the exemption. This can be appealed to the federal

court, but is very expensive. Other

choices if you are denied: homeschool, get the shots, or move to a

different state that accepts philosophical exemptions.

-Try to stick with one type of exemption, or if you change from

medical to religious spread out the time between. Religious, since

it is accepted in all states, makes sense to be the preferred

exemption, in case you move states.

-The new HIPA laws did not change religious exemption in NJ.

-Child can have titers checked for all vaccines that are due, and

avoid the shot if the titers prove that the child has enough

antibodies.

[Guest guest]

The last time I checked school districts could not over rule state

law. He is lied to you. Next time you see him ask him: " Why did you

lie to me about this issue?

Thanks, Dan

> -- " jonastesla " <jonastesla@y...> wrote:

> Our principal said that our district's rules are more strict than

the

> IL law and therefore no kids without current vaccines can even

attend

> school. Vaccinations must be current by the first day of school.

>

[Guest guest]

The IL state law provides for school districts to set alternative

timetables for medical and dental forms. The law says that they must

provide 60 days notice if they change the due date. They claim they

have written the due date into the district school code and that we

were notified of the due date on the registration forms, so I think

that they may be in the clear here. What was probably illegal was to

wait until school has started to notify us that the religious

objection was rejected. They should have given us enough notice to

have submitted a more detailed objection letter before school started.

I made an aquantance as a result of my post who just had their

religious objection letter accepted by an IL school. I don't have a

copy of it here, but essentially (from memory) it said:

" We PARENTSNAMES, being the LEGAL PARENTS of CHILDNAME, do hereby

request exemption from vaccination from LIST_OF_VACCINES on religious

grounds as per SCHOOL_CODE_SECTION. We object to the vaccines for

the following reasons: "

Then the vaccines were grouped into groups and an objection was made

for each group. I don't recall all of them, but you can find these

on any number of anti-vaccine websites. For example:

" Chickenpox, X, and Y vaccines are grown on aborted fetal cells and

we believe that this is a violation of God's law on the grounds that

it could justify/promote abortions. "

" W, X, and Z vaccines contain live viruses and we believe that it is

a violation of God's law to intentionally introduce these illnesses

into our child. "

" Hepatitis B is genetically engineered, and we believe that genetic

engineering is a violation of God's law. "

" P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, and Z vaccines alter and have been

known to cause damage to the God-given immune system, so we object to

these immmunizations on the grounds that it is violation of God's

law. "

I'm told that they added this last one in case some of the vaccines

are changed (for example, perhaps one may no longer be cultured on

aborted fetal cells) that it would prevent the school from using that

as a loophole.

I just found the site that has the " where the vaccines come from. "

Here's the link:

http://www.vaccineawareness.org/information/FactSheet.htm#vacingredien

t

Furthermore, at least in Illinois, your objection can be based upon

personal religious beliefs rather than on the tenets of a particular

organized religion. Here's where that comes from (Illinois School

Board website):

http://www.isbe.net/pps/guidelines.htm

Here's also some more info:

http://www.vaccineawareness.org/IllinoisIssues/AllowableVaccineExempti

ons.htm

I believe that why our first letter was rejected was because it was

too vague. I think it may also be important to say that we the

parents accept full responsibility if our kids get sick with one of

these illnesses.

A lawyer doesn't hurt... especially if you have a particularly

difficult school district. There are lawyers that specialize in

school code. Contact a local organization that helps parents with

special needs children and they will have a list of local lawyers and

maybe even sample letters that have worked in your area.

There sure is a lot to learn about dealing with schools, but I'm

proof that you can learn an awful lot in a few days especially with

the way we can quickly communicate with each other via this group and

email. Thank you all for being here.

JT.

> > Our principal said that our district's rules are more strict than

> the

> > IL law and therefore no kids without current vaccines can even

> attend

> > school. Vaccinations must be current by the first day of school.

> >