Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Individual needs will guide your dosages. Despite the usual conservative estimates of up to 200mcgs, I take 600mcg quite easily, in part because of our depleted soils in NZ. (Up to 200mcgs is generally considered a safe maintainence level.) However if you have concerns, you could see a holistic health professional able to run tests to determine your mineral levels. A naturopath and RN I know, arranges the evaluations, which involve going without any supplementation for a few days, prior to having your blood and urinalysis done. Some natural therapists and holistic MDs will also do a hair analysis, to check for heavy metals (such as mercury etc). I hope this clears up what Jody sent? > > Anyhow, wanted to let you know something about > > selenium...it *must* be balanced with > > copper and zinc to work properly and to not make you > > sick. Too much selenium can be > > dangerous. I am one of those thyroid patients who > > know the benefits, have seen the > > consequences of not balancing properly with copper > > and zinc also and do mostly > > alternative medicine now. > > Thanks for the heads up Jody. Do you have any info on > how you balance the copper and zinc and dosing > amounts? I currently take zinc anyway but not copper. > Also what have you found works with your thyroid > issues? Have you tried iodine at all? > > > Luv, > Debby > San , CA > 380/237/180 > > > > ------------- > The chief cause of failure and unhappiness is trading what you want most for what you want now. -- Zig Ziglar > > New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ > > My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Thanks .. good to know Sue! Luv, Debby San , CA 380/237/180 --- sue <tauttodream@...> wrote: > hey debby > > i spoke to my dietician today regarding selenium. > she > advised that taking 300mcg-400mcg daily would not > creat any type of adverse reaction with regards to > imbalancing copper and zinc. That infor was for me > just so anyone with a ? would want to check with > their > own dr. ------------- The chief cause of failure and unhappiness is trading what you want most for what you want now. -- Zig Ziglar New group! Curing Candida: curingcandida/ My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Hi Kathy, Since my doctor gave me the liquid selenium (obtained from the vets as used for thoroughbreds) I'm pleased with the results of using 300 - 600mcgs daily, for several months. (200mcg just wasn't enough in my particular case) Unlike Jody, I do not supplement with copper (etc) partly because the food I eat is either grown on soils that have sufficient copper or are copper rich. (Tests for mineral levels, also came up ok.) Where does your food come from? Our animals have supplementation at the farm, (and in the milking sheds and hen houses etc) because of NZ's depleted soils. However, we still may not get adequate selenium levels and zinc (etc), despite the added minerals. (Foe example, in this country certain populations, (non sea food eating communities) miss out not only on selenium but zinc and other minerals deficient in our soils. That was my point when I suggested anyone with concerns about levels of minerals, seek personalised assessment from a suitably qualified healthcare professional who can arrange serum and other sample testing. Anyway unless you're suffering from selenium poisoning, (or overdose) taking 200mcg per day, isn't considered harmful, though it may not be much help if you are one of those who are found to need more. My doctor determined I did need selenium supplementation, because of my vaccine injury. Upon testing, he also found heavy metal toxicity in my samples, which he said may have been leeched from dental amalgam fillings. So he gave me the liquid selenium drops, which have been a huge help towards improving my health. If you email me privately I can send you a couple of pdf files on selenium supplementation. In the meantime, have a look at this video link below and see what you think. J ============ It's All In Your Head – watch this video http://www.tv3.co.nz/VideoBrowseAll/60Minutes/tabid/371/Default.aspx Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, chronic fatigue, multiple sclerosis and a host of other diseases related to the brain and nervous system have been increasing over the years. One ex-dentist thinks he knows why, but many of his peers disagree with him. Dr. Hal Huggins is a former American dentist who believes that a host of diseases related to the brain and nervous system can be traced back to one thing many of us have – fillings. Mercury amalgam fillings to be precise. He says the mercury in these fillings are giving people mercury poisoning, and he is not alone in his thoughts. Some of his peers who have studied this agree with him. However, the New Zealand Dental Association says Huggin's claims have little or no scientific basis, and as a result, continue to give their patients amalgam fillings. Reid investigates. The World Health Organisation agrees with this view. We would like to correct a statement previously published on this webpage, which said that the WHO supported Dr Higgins' claims. In fact the WHO put out a Consensus Statement in 1997 saying dental amalgam is safe and effective. QUALITIES OF LIFE Are your teeth toxic? The mercury in 'silver' fillings would be hazardous waste in a river----yet it's sitting in your mouth Deardorff Tribune December 11, 2005 A professional musician from Arlington Heights suffers from mysterious rashes and lip blisters. A dental hygienist in Hoffman Estates battles migraines. And a social worker in Prospect Heights is diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. All three tried treating their ailments using a controversial method: by having dentists remove and replace their so-called " silver " amalgam tooth fillings, which contain about 50 percent mercury. And all three swear they experienced life-changing health improvements. Their personal testimonies are part of what makes dental amalgam, the silver lining for hundreds of millions of American mouths, one of the most divisive issues in dentistry. Though it's one of the oldest materials in oral health care--used by people of all ages for the last 150 years--anti-mercury groups are pushing the startling message that mercury residing in the mouth can leach into the body and cause illness. " I thought my career was over, " said Arlington Heights' Matt Comerford, now a trumpet player with the Lyric Opera who was suffering from painful sores along his gums. He began investigating the metals in his mouth and eventually had nine silver fillings replaced with a mercury-free alter-native material. " Within a week [of having the amalgams replaced], everything healed, " Comerford said. Amalgam, most dentists admit, is crude and ugly, but they say it's a valuable option because it's strong, durable and relatively cheap. And studies have shown that there is insufficient evidence to link it to health problems (with the exception of allergic reactions), according to the American Dental Association and several federal agencies, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Regardless, anti-mercury groups are appalled by the notion that the toxic element, which is considered a hazardous waste by the Environmental Protection Agency, is safe when it's packed inside a tooth. They argue that although it was once thought to be inert inside the mouth, studies now show that mercury can be emitted in minute amounts of vapor and absorbed by the patient through inhalation and ingestion. At Doctor's Data, a Chicago lab that specializes in trace-metals analysis, clinicians have found that the amount of mercury in a person's stool is highly correlated to the number of amalgams in the mouth. " What stool testing drives home is that parts of the amalgams don't stay in the teeth and we're swallowing mercury, " said Dean Bass, a chemist at Doctor's Data and a scientist at Argonne National Laboratories. " But it doesn't necessarily tell you how much mercury the body absorbs. " A long-running controversy The debate over silver amalgam dates at least to 1845, when the now-defunct American Academy of Dental Surgeons asked its members to sign a pledge never to use it. Though amalgam use has been declining since the 1970s because more eye-pleasing options are available and cavities are smaller, federal lawmakers have introduced a bipartisan bill to ban silver/mercury fillings for children and pregnant and nursing women and to phase them out completely in three years. In California, dentists are required by state law to post a warning that dental amalgams " cause exposure to mercury, a chemical known to the state of California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm. " " The ADA is wrong that the issue is `safety.' The issue is `risk,' " said Charlie Brown, national counsel for Consumers for Dental Choice and Coalition for Mercury-Free Dentistry. He has filed a petition asking the Federal Trade Commission to investigate the ADA and the Connecticut State Dental Association for what the groups claims is making false, deceptive and unsubstantiated claims in promoting silver/mercury amalgam. " On this point scientists agree: Mercury is a virulent neurotoxin that can permanently harm the developing brain of a child or fetus. Yet a recent Zogby poll shows three in five people don't know that `silver' fillings have mercury, " said Brown, who pointed out that silver fillings are in fact mainly mercury. The ADA staunchly defends the safety of amalgam, still used in about 30 percent of restorations. Amalgam, made by mixing elemental liquid mercury with an alloy powder composed of silver, tin, copper and sometimes smaller amounts of other metals, hardens quickly and tolerates saliva. This makes it useful for treating squirmy young children or special-needs patients who have a hard time sitting still. Money and ethics Some dental insurance companies don't cover the more expensive alternatives to amalgam. And because science doesn't definitively link the silver fillings to health problems, the ADA considers it unethical for dentists to tell patients that removing amalgams can improve health. " Amalgam has the longest history, the most data and the largest number of studies supporting it. Yet time after time, we have to come back and address it, " said Dr. Fred Eichmiller, director of the ADA Foundation's Paffenbarger Resource Center, where alternatives to amalgams have been invented. Critics argue that the issue also is environmental. Mercury is emitted into the air when bodies with mercury fillings are cremated. It gets into the water when fillings are removed and leftover material is not disposed of properly. " Amalgams don't need to be used in the 21st Century, " said Downers Grove dentist Janet Stopka, who uses composite, porcelain and gold. For consumers, the decision whether to replace amalgams can be a difficult one. Urine, hair and feces can all be tested for mercury levels and chelating agents can pull mercury out of the organs. But the results don't necessarily tell whether there is enough mercury present to pose a health risk and an official diagnosis of " mercury poisoning " can be tentative. Swapping out old fillings can be expensive; each replacement can cost $75 to $200. And there are no guaranteed benefits. Nevertheless, Dawn Quast, a dental hygienist for Dr. Rothchild in Hoffman Estates, decided to have four small fillings replaced after she witnessed both small and profound improvements in Rothchild's patients who had amalgams replaced. " I had a migraine the night I had the last silver one removed and haven't had one since [in 12 years], " Quast said. Rothchild, a mercury-free dentist, said he doesn't push people into having silver fillings removed. No guarantees " I never promise any medical cures because you can't, " he said. Instead, he presents both sides of the issue on his Web site and provides patient referrals. " If people come in asking about amalgams, I'll tell them, " he said. " If they're there for basic dentistry, I don't say anything. " Brocato of Prospect Heights went to several dentists before she made the difficult decision to have her 16 silver fillings removed. Her problems began in 1980, when she looked in the mirror one morning and noticed her right eye was drooping. Seven years and dozens of health issues later, the former social worker was crippled, diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. It wasn't until Brocato heard about the Minneapolis-based group Dental Amalgam Mercury Syndrome (DAMS), however, that she began to believe she had mercury poisoning. Two weeks after she had her last amalgams replaced, Brocato said her slurred speech began to disappear and her strength and balance improved. She knows the symptoms of MS come and go, which could explain her improved health, but she is convinced that removing the silver fillings made a big difference. " I have five pages of improvements, " said Brocato, 56, who is still in a wheelchair but no longer takes medication for MS. She is now one of the Illinois coordinators for DAMS. " I don't know how people can say there isn't evidence. " Help on the Web For more information: The American Dental Association: www.ada.org. The International Academy of Oral Medicine & Toxicology: www.iaomt.org. Consumers for Dental Choice, www.toxicteeth.org . http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/health/chi-0512110315dec11, 1,4520800.column?coll=chi-health-hed > > Folks, this discussion re: selenium has me just plain frightened. What is the specific purpose of using it? > > For now, I think it's wise that I stick with my B's, Calcium, mag and omega 3's, along with some C > > Kathy in AZ > He is my defense, I shall not be move-ed... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 > > Everyone is responsible for their own actions and only they feel the > full personal consequence. > > Im quite happy to continue using selenium and whey, at doses of 2x300 > mcg per day. > > It is highly evident IME that selenium and whey definitely help to > reduce the toxin load. The visible blemishes, the flashing dots. Even > using the sf722 anti-fungal, the die off is not harsh at all. > > I personally rate this supplement highly for detox purposes. My > research has led me to believe that about 600mcg is safe. > ============ Yes, individual circumstances determine the dosage/outcomes. For me the basic maintainence level of 200mcg wasn't enough in the circumstances. Quite plainly, I was far too ill. Like you x 2 doses @ 300mcg has been positive, with no adverse effects or mineral imbalance. My only regret was not starting the selenium @ 300mcg 2 x daily, earlier. All the best for your healing. http://www.mall-net.com/wsnutri/whichsel.html#CANDIA%20ALBECANS http://www.mall-net.com/wsnutri/whichsel.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Don't know if you like brazil nuts or not but they are full of selenium, and taste good! louise Is there a preferred brand of selenium? searching for selenium seems there is one with yeast and one yeast free? any recommendations? thanx Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Selenium comes in MICRO grams ... mcg ... so 10,000 units??? seems unlikely. Nuts are high in fat. If you have trouble processing fat ... like I do ... you might have trouble with nuts. Jaxi On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Butts <renee-butts@...> wrote: I went to an alternative doctor in Mexico for my breast cancer, and he has told me that I should not use Brazil nuts for my daily Selenium intake because they are too hard on the liver--- I was taking about 5 brazil nuts a day and he said to stop and just take the Yeast based Selenium capsules (I take 2 - 5,000 units tablets per day) But I do love the Brazil nuts---does anyone know if that is truly the case? Are they “hard on your liver”??? I thought someone on here might know--- Thanks, From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of B Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:30 PMiodine Subject: Re: Selenium ? We don't recommend that people depend on brazil nuts for their daily selenium because in fact their content varies, and it's really important to get the full selenium amount for the iodine protocol. There is nothing wrong with eating some brazil nuts in addition.There is not a preferred brand. If you can afford it, types with " methyl " in the name are the most bioavailable. I like www.vitacost.com for online purchases, although there are other good sources like www.swansonsvitamins.com. Vitacost's NSI brand is high quality at very fair prices. Swanson's also has high quality and fair prices, and they are, imo, the best source for magnesium oil.--At 08:42 PM 5/24/2011, you wrote:>Don't know if you like brazil nuts or not but they are full of selenium, and >taste good!>louise>>>Is there a preferred brand of selenium? searching for selenium seems there>is one with yeast and one yeast free? any recommendations?>thanx>Joyce >>>>------------------------------------>>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ >>>The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) >iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 No—I was wrong—I wrote a note yesterday about it---I only take 400 mcg. (that’s 2 tablets)---But how do you know if you have trouble processing fat—what does that mean and how is it manifested?Thanks, From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of jaxiSent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:06 AMiodine Subject: Re: Selenium ? Selenium comes in MICRO grams ... mcg ... so 10,000 units??? seems unlikely. Nuts are high in fat. If you have trouble processing fat ... like I do ... you might have trouble with nuts. JaxiOn Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Butts <renee-butts@...> wrote: I went to an alternative doctor in Mexico for my breast cancer, and he has told me that I should not use Brazil nuts for my daily Selenium intake because they are too hard on the liver---I was taking about 5 brazil nuts a day and he said to stop and just take the Yeast based Selenium capsules (I take 2 - 5,000 units tablets per day)But I do love the Brazil nuts---does anyone know if that is truly the case? Are they “hard on your liver”??? I thought someone on here might know---Thanks, From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of BSent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:30 PMiodine Subject: Re: Selenium ? We don't recommend that people depend on brazil nuts for their daily selenium because in fact their content varies, and it's really important to get the full selenium amount for the iodine protocol. There is nothing wrong with eating some brazil nuts in addition.There is not a preferred brand. If you can afford it, types with " methyl " in the name are the most bioavailable.I like www.vitacost.com for online purchases, although there are other good sources like www.swansonsvitamins.com. Vitacost's NSI brand is high quality at very fair prices. Swanson's also has high quality and fair prices, and they are, imo, the best source for magnesium oil.--At 08:42 PM 5/24/2011, you wrote:>Don't know if you like brazil nuts or not but they are full of selenium, and>taste good!>louise>>>Is there a preferred brand of selenium? searching for selenium seems there>is one with yeast and one yeast free? any recommendations?>thanx>Joyce>>>>------------------------------------>>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/>>>The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) >iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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