Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 It is most likely TTFD which should not be used because it is poisonous. Ask. If they say " allithiamine " and talk about it being from garlic, insist on seeing the bottle. The thing you are trying to avoid is called thiamine tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide, TTFD for short. Andy . . . . .. . . > > Fat soluble thiamine. > > Any thoughts on this one? I'm to have it made up at a compounding > pharmacy to give to my DD. > > Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 so is benfotiamine safe? > > It is most likely TTFD which should not be used because it is > poisonous. > > Ask. If they say " allithiamine " and talk about it being from garlic, > insist on seeing the bottle. The thing you are trying to avoid is > called thiamine tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide, TTFD for short. > > Andy . . . . .. . . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 I am not pledging it is SAFE, but it is guaranteed to be a lot safer than TTFD, and I personally do believe it will turn out to be completely safe. It also has the advantage of making thiamine phosphate rather than just thiamine on activation, which means it is one step closer to the physiologically activated (coenzyme) form than what TTFD produces. Andy. . . . . > > so is benfotiamine safe? > > > > > > > It is most likely TTFD which should not be used because it is > > poisonous. > > > > Ask. If they say " allithiamine " and talk about it being from > garlic, > > insist on seeing the bottle. The thing you are trying to avoid is > > called thiamine tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide, TTFD for short. > > > > Andy . . . . .. . . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 > Dr. Lonsdale has told me that an > awful lot of work was done in Japan on TTFD before he got interested in > it. Probably most of that is not indexed in Medline. I don't suppose there are proper citations to these available, or better yet, actual copies of the papers? Just being in a foreign language and not politically correct to index in medline is not a good reason not to find out what they say. > In my look through the > indexes, I didn't see anyone raising concerns about toxicity. I don't suppose you can find me a long list of articles on vaccinations prior to 5 years ago that discuss the toxicity of thimerosal either. Both medline indexing and the number of papers that do or don't mention things are irrelevant to technical reality. Technical reality: TTFD and thimerosal are both poisons in the relevant amounts being discussed here. Liberal arts fantasy: what the doctor thinks the chemicals do to people influences what actually happens when the molecules get inside human beings, if the doctor prescribes a poison without thinking of it as poison it won't hurt the recipient. As with many poisonous compounds, there are a few situations where the potential benefits justify the risks. E. g. the person will die or be in a persistent vegetative state, the compound might cure them or might kill them. Very worth the risk. The risks and possible benefits do not justify the indiscriminate use of TTFD in the autistic population. Denial of the existence of risk or the pretense that there is some issue of biochemical individuality rather than simply that the stuff is poisonous to everyone and some are touigh enough to take it, others not, makes it impossible to make any responsible choice other than to never use it. Andy . . . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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