Re: what is the best test to do now?

[Guest guest]

I am very interested in what you say here. I started chelating my son after

we did a DMSA challenge when we lived in the UK about 5 years ago. His

levels of Mercury were very high. At the time I did not do a Hair test. We

have done about 25rounds of chelation on and off with DMSA and ALA and now

that we live in Trinidad and my DMSA has run out I do only ALA. Recently I

have been thinking I should check to see what levels are showing now and

also I would like to see if the mercury is coming out. I remember reading

that the ALA excretes through stool and the DMSA excretes via the urine. I

was about to ask for your advice on the list as to what was the best type of

test to do now. Should I do a hair test? Or should I have the urine or stool

checked. Also where should I have the tests done, I am pretty much on my own

with the chelation. I don't have a doctor here who is willing to help.

However early on my brother who is a doctor in the UK got me started by

talking, at my request, to Dr Amy Holmes and we got the DMSA through the

pharmacist she used.

Whichever test I want done I would have to send to the USA. I have a friend

who has a lab here and he is willing to assist me in sending the samples,

what would you recommend.

Also I notice that when I first started chelation my son's yeast would act

up and his behaviour would become very bad for a few days. Now however he is

much better when being chelated and is worse when we stop. I just wanted to

find out if there is any reason why I should not keep doing the chelation

all the time. I give 20 mg ALA every 2 hours up to midnight and then one

dose at 3 am and then I start with 2 hour dosing at 6 am again. He has been

an extremely happy child in the last 4 days while we have been doing this. I

stopped at 8 pm last night and this am he was a little aggressive and

started hitting me. If his moods are good on ALA I would like to keep him on

it all the time, what do you advise?

I would be grateful for any advice.

Many thanks

Nalini

[ ] Re: Urine test result - please Help - what does it

mean? High Lead.

> > my 3.10 year old's (34 pounds) urine toxic metal test (from DDI) just

> > came. His lead was very high. Mercury and Nickel was high too.

> >

> > Lead 94 ug/g (Normal Range <20)

> > Mercury 7.4 ug/g (Normal Range <5)

> > Lead 52 ug/g (Normal Range <20)

> > Creatinine 8.4mg/dL was Low (Normal Range 21-76)

> >

> >

> > Everything else came normal.

> >

> > It was an 8 hour provoked Urine collection (ICP-MS method)

> >

> > Someone please tell me what this means.

>

> Very little.

>

> DMSA greatly increases lead excretion. Typically by a factor of 12 or

> more. Thus yoru 94 may be more like an unprovoked 7 or 8, very normal.

>

> Similarly for nickel (which I presume is the second thing you mark as

> " lead " ).

>

> I would check the hair test (doctor's data hair element profile) and

> think carefully about his situation, as well as considering a

> behavioral optometric vision exam (lead and mercury do different things

> to vision) and considering testing your water.

>

> Andy . . .. . . . .

>

> > Thanks in advance.

> >

> > Manny

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

My family seem to do better with longer rounds (5 to 7 days), but we still as

many days off then on. I just think you have more on days compared to

redistribution days in this way.

Dagmar.

Also I notice that when I first started chelation my son's yeast would act

up and his behaviour would become very bad for a few days. Now however he is

much better when being chelated and is worse when we stop. I just wanted to

find out if there is any reason why I should not keep doing the chelation

all the time. I give 20 mg ALA every 2 hours up to midnight and then one

dose at 3 am and then I start with 2 hour dosing at 6 am again. He has been

an extremely happy child in the last 4 days while we have been doing this. I

stopped at 8 pm last night and this am he was a little aggressive and

started hitting me. If his moods are good on ALA I would like to keep him on

it all the time, what do you advise?

[Guest guest]

> I am very interested in what you say here. I started chelating my son after

> we did a DMSA challenge when we lived in the UK about 5 years ago. His

> levels of Mercury were very high. At the time I did not do a Hair test. We

> have done about 25rounds of chelation on and off with DMSA and ALA and now

> that we live in Trinidad and my DMSA has run out I do only ALA. Recently I

> have been thinking I should check to see what levels are showing now and

> also I would like to see if the mercury is coming out. I remember reading

> that the ALA excretes through stool and the DMSA excretes via the urine. I

> was about to ask for your advice on the list as to what was the best type of

> test to do now. Should I do a hair test? Or should I have the urine or stool

> checked. Also where should I have the tests done, I am pretty much on my own

> with the chelation. I don't have a doctor here who is willing to help.

> However early on my brother who is a doctor in the UK got me started by

> talking, at my request, to Dr Amy Holmes and we got the DMSA through the

> pharmacist she used.

>

> Whichever test I want done I would have to send to the USA. I have a friend

> who has a lab here and he is willing to assist me in sending the samples,

> what would you recommend.

>

> Also I notice that when I first started chelation my son's yeast would act

> up and his behaviour would become very bad for a few days. Now however he is

> much better when being chelated and is worse when we stop. I just wanted to

> find out if there is any reason why I should not keep doing the chelation

> all the time. I give 20 mg ALA every 2 hours up to midnight and then one

> dose at 3 am and then I start with 2 hour dosing at 6 am again. He has been

> an extremely happy child in the last 4 days while we have been doing this. I

> stopped at 8 pm last night and this am he was a little aggressive and

> started hitting me. If his moods are good on ALA I would like to keep him on

> it all the time, what do you advise?

>

> I would be grateful for any advice.

> Many thanks

> Nalini

Further testing at this point is not very relevant. He is still

responding to chelation so you want to continue to do it.

I'd suggest a hair test to check his COPPER and other things. If it

looks very normal, keep chelating anyway.

If you want to chelate all the time, you need to watch copper. If you

wanted to do, say 4 or 5 days on and 3 or 2 off it would probably be OK

as long as his current hair copper is not above the middle of high

yeloow.

Andy . . . . . . . . . .

[Guest guest]

Andy thank you so much for that. I will get a hair test done and see what his

copper is like.

Nalini

andrewhallcutler wrote:

>

> > I am very interested in what you say here. I started chelating my son after

> > we did a DMSA challenge when we lived in the UK about 5 years ago. His

> > levels of Mercury were very high. At the time I did not do a Hair test. We

> > have done about 25rounds of chelation on and off with DMSA and ALA and now

> > that we live in Trinidad and my DMSA has run out I do only ALA. Recently I

> > have been thinking I should check to see what levels are showing now and

> > also I would like to see if the mercury is coming out. I remember reading

> > that the ALA excretes through stool and the DMSA excretes via the urine. I

> > was about to ask for your advice on the list as to what was the best type of

> > test to do now. Should I do a hair test? Or should I have the urine or stool

> > checked. Also where should I have the tests done, I am pretty much on my own

> > with the chelation. I don't have a doctor here who is willing to help.

> > However early on my brother who is a doctor in the UK got me started by

> > talking, at my request, to Dr Amy Holmes and we got the DMSA through the

> > pharmacist she used.

> >

> > Whichever test I want done I would have to send to the USA. I have a friend

> > who has a lab here and he is willing to assist me in sending the samples,

> > what would you recommend.

> >

> > Also I notice that when I first started chelation my son's yeast would act

> > up and his behaviour would become very bad for a few days. Now however he is

> > much better when being chelated and is worse when we stop. I just wanted to

> > find out if there is any reason why I should not keep doing the chelation

> > all the time. I give 20 mg ALA every 2 hours up to midnight and then one

> > dose at 3 am and then I start with 2 hour dosing at 6 am again. He has been

> > an extremely happy child in the last 4 days while we have been doing this. I

> > stopped at 8 pm last night and this am he was a little aggressive and

> > started hitting me. If his moods are good on ALA I would like to keep him on

> > it all the time, what do you advise?

> >

> > I would be grateful for any advice.

> > Many thanks

> > Nalini

>

> Further testing at this point is not very relevant. He is still

> responding to chelation so you want to continue to do it.

>

> I'd suggest a hair test to check his COPPER and other things. If it

> looks very normal, keep chelating anyway.

>

> If you want to chelate all the time, you need to watch copper. If you

> wanted to do, say 4 or 5 days on and 3 or 2 off it would probably be OK

> as long as his current hair copper is not above the middle of high

> yeloow.

>

> Andy . . . . . . . . . .

>

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