Harm of unvaccinated child to pregnant woman

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

As you may remember, I live in Arkansas and have a 2 year old sibling who is

unvaccinated. We were removed from a private mother's day out program because a

parent spoke out regarding my son's immunizations, after we had started the

program. We have since moved on to another program that accepts the medical

exemption letter from the State. Lo and behold, who should be at the

orientation evening in the new program, that same woman. She had the gall to

ask the director of the program at the meeting with many people there, whether

all the children are vaccinated in the program, then she asked again in front of

all of the people what ages the children were and what classrooms they were in.

The director was wonderful. We had a meeting with the director of the program

and apparently this woman came up to her after the meeting and discussed that

she is pregnant and her obstetrician has " ISSUES " with the child not being

vaccinated in the school. Does anyhone know what if ANY issues

there may be? I later found out that this woman is a lawyer by trade and is

currently a stay at home mom now. Maybe she needs to go back to work and

concentrate on other issues instead of harassing me and my family. Any articles

or info would be appreciated. Angry in Arkansas. Kathy

[Guest guest]

I say this in a sassy tone, but I believe it to be correct.

Rubella (German Measles) is dangerous to a fetus. When a woman becomes

pregnant, she is often tested to determine whether she carries antibodies to

this disease. If she does, no problem. If she doesn't, then she needs to

keep to herself should there be an outbreak in her local area.

What I CANNOT fathom is vaccinating a child to protect an adult; this seems

so backward. When my daughter reaches puberty, we will decide sometime

after that, whether we will vaccinate for Rubella. SHE needs to take

responsibility for the health of her baby.

It's one thing for this woman you're dealing with to be ignorant of how

Rubella plays into pregnancy, but it's another thing for her to make her

ignorance someone else's fault. If it's that big a deal to her now, she

should know that it was incumbent on her to make sure she was vaccinated if

that's what she wants.

I'd be inclined to tell her as much. Why didn't SHE make sure she was

vaccinated? And if she is, then according to her logic, she should be fine.

Oh, and she might want to be careful hanging out with kids and adults

recently vaccinated for chicken and small pox, and polio if it's the live

version.

>>>she is pregnant and her obstetrician has " ISSUES " with the child not

being vaccinated in the school. Does anyhone know what if ANY issues there

may be?<<<

[Guest guest]

The legitimate issue is if the mother is not vaccinated against German

Measles (Rubella) and never had them, then if she gets them during

pregnancy the baby can be VERY messed up.

The OB is being inappropriate here unless there is a local epidemic or

endemic outbreak of rubella.

You could ask (in front of the rest of the world) whether the mother

abstains from drinking, tobacco, recreational drugs, sports, drives

within the speed limit, always wears her seat belt, has had her home

and drinking water checked for lead, and takes prenatal vitamins, has

had medical testing for thyroid function and gestational diabetes,

plans blood testing and if relevant amnioscentesis, etc., all of which

control much greater risk factors than getting your child vaccinated

would.

Andy . . . .. .

> Hi all,

> As you may remember, I live in Arkansas and have a 2 year old sibling who is

unvaccinated. We were removed from a private mother's day out program because a

parent spoke out regarding my son's immunizations, after we had started the

program. We have since moved on to another program that accepts the medical

exemption letter from the State. Lo and behold, who should be at the

orientation evening in the new program, that same woman. She had the gall to

ask the director of the program at the meeting with many people there, whether

all the children are vaccinated in the program, then she asked again in front of

all of the people what ages the children were and what classrooms they were in.

The director was wonderful. We had a meeting with the director of the program

and apparently this woman came up to her after the meeting and discussed that

she is pregnant and her obstetrician has " ISSUES " with the child not being

vaccinated in the school. Does anyhone know what if ANY issues

> there may be? I later found out that this woman is a lawyer by trade and is

currently a stay at home mom now. Maybe she needs to go back to work and

concentrate on other issues instead of harassing me and my family. Any articles

or info would be appreciated. Angry in Arkansas. Kathy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does anyhone know what if ANY issues

there may be?

Well for one filed under the title of ignorance, there's the general

misconception that somehow unvaccinated children are these filthy,

disease-ridden, poxy dirt bags that everyone should ignore. This is simply not

true.

When Children are vaccinated nurses are NOT injecting immunity into their little

bodies, but rather live viruses. It's entirely up to the child's immune system

to create the proper immune response. If the response is weak or incorrect, what

do you have? There's little or no monitoring after that teeny tiny shot

by-passes the immune system and nestles into the child so one can not truly

claim that vaccinated children aren't actually the ones for unvaccinated people

to look out for. A weak or non-response in the immune system can mean there is

still a live virus to contend with.

Aside from adverse reactions and death, vaccines do spread diseases. We know

this much from reading recent posts here. This truth should not be hidden and

should be quite alarming. The truth is there is considerable evidence that

indicates that the vaccinated can be quite effective in the area of disease

spread. There would be a lot less spread if the entities in charge of

vaccination programs would simply lift the scales from their eyes and start

talking with their own words about what's going down in some of these vaccines.

What should be more alarming to everyone is according to Gilmartin CEO

of Merck, " ...It is not simply a matter of killing or weakening the virus and

injecting it into the body to get an antibody reaction, it's actually splicing

pieces of the virus that you're after into, say, another type of virus, or

particles of it into another type of structure; so you mimic the virus* " .

I personally do not know which vaccines are in fact the products of

gene-splicing. If these types of vaccines were used on our children I suppose

that we would be the last to know anyway, but it's entirely fair to suggest that

a lot of the problems children are having with their long-term health these days

are traceable directly to crises of molecular mimicry introduced by vaccines.

There is substantial evidence that most of us know of that relates to

autoimmunity issues in the autism spectrum. Much of this is fitly attributed to

mercury, but do we really understand that there are a host of other maladies

circulating today thanks to experimentation with gene-splicing, perhaps

including about twenty-five percent of people on the autism spectrum.

We for the most part are non-migratory and perhaps this fact helps things from

getting out of hand, but when the eyes of the vaccinators are on the birds this

tells me that they've done something somewhere on earth that they aren't too

sure about.

*http://business-times.asia1.com.sg/story/0,4567,101164,00.html