Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 I'm a moderator too and in the past we have requested that, if you choose to go off program, you do not broadcast it to the list. This is what happened with the other person, and what appears to be happening here. Do your free days if you want to. Heck, eat an entire herd of antelope with butter on them, but on list we discuss how to stay on program, how to handle things if we feel like we're going to go off program. Example: Okay: Man it was my birthday yesterday and I had things planned out to a T, but then the cake monster got me and I don't know what happened. I woke up in a pile of whipped cream with a sugar hangover! Next year I'm going to go OUT to eat and if I have cake I'm going to have one piece and not bring any more into the house. Not okay: My birthday is only once a year so I went all out! I ate half a cake, drank three pitchers of tequila, and did the meringue on the kitchen table with the meter reader. It was awesome! Okay: Thanksgiving is coming and this is a holiday where I tend to waddle home and lie around for three days moaning with my pants unbuttoned. I don't want to get out my fat clothes, but I do want to enjoy the holiday without feeling a huge amount of pressure! Help! Not okay: Thanksgiving is coming and I've decided I'm not counting points! I can't wait! My mom makes the best lard pie with lard topping and I swear I'm going to dive in and wallow. Okay: I can't wait for Thanksgiving! I'm going to save all my FPs and DH and I plan to do an hour long walk before dinner and after dinner. I have a very low point meal planned for breakfast, a big salad for lunch, so I can enjoy all my once a year favorites. Does anyone know the points for ____? Not okay: I'm going to use a free day for Thanksgiving. Why are the " not okay " things not okay? Because we're supposed to be a Serious Weight Watchers list, not a " kinda serious " or " serious when it's not a holiday " or " on again off again weight watchers " group. That does NOT mean that we never make mistakes. Nor does it mean we don't SHARE our mistakes with the list...we don't BRAG about them, but we use them to learn from and help others learn from. Since we're doing WWers there is no such thing as a free day on the program. In that case you are making a choice to be off program. For you that might be fine. For someone else one day, or even one meal off program derails them for good. This is why we don't discuss it here. Hey, I don't do WWers completely by the book myself. I have found ways to modify it to fit my lifestyle, but since I know what works for me and I also understand that there are people on the list who are brand new, I keep my fudging to myself. I don't want someone to say, " Well that's what Tory does so I'm going to do it too! " when they aren't doing OTHER things that I do (such as earning the amount of APs I earn, etc.) So while someone in one situation can be perfectly successful having a free day, there are many others who can't. What you do in the privacy of your own home should be what works best for you. There are no WWers police out there, banging down your door, guns drawn, screeching, " Step away from the Ding Dong! SERIOUS Weight Watchers don't eat Ding Dongs! " All we ask here is that you stick to discussing the program. Personal modifications to the actual program aren't open for discussion on this list. If I'm wrong I'm sure Lyn will correct me, but this has always been policy on the list and we'd like to keep it supportive and heading in the right direction. > > <<<<<<<<<<<As I said, the last time a SWW member bravely said she was > going to go off program for her birthday, she was not only flamed, but > even the moderators and list mom stepped forward to say clearly that > this kind of plan did not follow the SWW group guidelines. And, sadly, > that member was so hurt that she left the group. > > So, all I'm saying is that it will be interesting to see if the > moderators and list mom treat Gail differently. Bette>>>>>>>>>. > > SWW Mod here! It looks like we're being called out a little bit, so I'm > taking the bait. > > First off, the member that stated that she had gone off-program for her > birthday did not say that she was ***going*** off program...she told us > that she had not counted points for her birthday which was the night > preceding that " controversial " message. So, this was not a planned > thing... She went off program and decided to confess on the SWW board. > > Before, I explain any further, let me point out some important things. > > Yes, this is a Serious Weight Watchers board. We do not advocate people > purposefully going off program: i.e.- free days...eating well over > their points, etc. This does not mean that members do not do these > things. If you do these things and want some advice on how to stop > doing them (because you're gaining weight... You feel out of control, > etc.) then, please post a message. What we don't want here are messages > like, " I went off program last night. It felt great. Hell, I might > even do it again tomorrow night. " That's not Weight Watchers. If WW > decided to start doing free days...well, then the board would go right > along w/ that new plan. But until then, we don't like people to put > that information out there. Why you ask? Read on.... > > Free days may work for you...your neighbor...your sister. But, some > people can't do free days and stay on the program the next day. We > don't want to send messages out there that might tempt other members to > say, " Well, if she can do it, then maybe I can. " It might backfire on > that person and start a downward spiral. We're trying to eliminate that > from happening. Again, if WW starts doing free days... Well, then those > messages would be more than welcome on this board. > > SOOOO, if you do free days... Plan to overeat on holidays, etc. Please > just keep it to yourself. That's great if it works for you, but please > don't talk about it on the message board. If you gorged at dinner last > night and you're feeling out of whack and looking for support to get > back on track...send a message to the board. If you overate last night > on purpose and you're thinking that this is helpful to your diet...just > keep it to yourself. > > If you've been on this board as long as I have, you see a pattern. This > very subject comes up at least once every two months. A lot of people > get involved and people's feelings get hurt (case in point- the girl > that overate on her birthday). So, please, let's just drop the subject > and move on. > > There are no hard feelings against any members. The moderators and Lyn, > the list owner, have this list's best interest at heart. We appreciate > everyone and we don't want anyone to leave. I feel bad that we're > perceived by some as being too " hard-core " with the Weight Watchers > rules, but that's why this board rocks! That's why it doesn't go to > hell in a handbasket, because everyone starts attacking the next person > and then the only messages getting sent out are about the latest C.S.I. > episode instead of Weight Watchers. > > PLEASE e-mail me if you have any questions, concerns. If you have > anything nasty to say, please e-mail it to me privately. =) I think > this subject should be deemed null and void after this message and I > don't want to intensify any bad emotions. > > Hugs...much love...and Weight Watchers Sundae Cones. > > > SWW mod > > > > > RE: Upcoming Holidays > > Hi again, > I totally agree that there should be no flaming for stating an opinion! > That, after all, is what I'm doing -- stating my opinion. As I said, > the last time a SWW member bravely said she was going to go off program > for her birthday, she was not only flamed, but even the moderators and > list mom stepped forward to say clearly that this kind of plan did not > follow the SWW group guidelines. And, sadly, that member was so hurt > that she left the group. > > So, all I'm saying is that it will be interesting to see if the > moderators and list mom treat Gail differently. Bette > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 I'm a moderator too and in the past we have requested that, if you choose to go off program, you do not broadcast it to the list. This is what happened with the other person, and what appears to be happening here. Do your free days if you want to. Heck, eat an entire herd of antelope with butter on them, but on list we discuss how to stay on program, how to handle things if we feel like we're going to go off program. Example: Okay: Man it was my birthday yesterday and I had things planned out to a T, but then the cake monster got me and I don't know what happened. I woke up in a pile of whipped cream with a sugar hangover! Next year I'm going to go OUT to eat and if I have cake I'm going to have one piece and not bring any more into the house. Not okay: My birthday is only once a year so I went all out! I ate half a cake, drank three pitchers of tequila, and did the meringue on the kitchen table with the meter reader. It was awesome! Okay: Thanksgiving is coming and this is a holiday where I tend to waddle home and lie around for three days moaning with my pants unbuttoned. I don't want to get out my fat clothes, but I do want to enjoy the holiday without feeling a huge amount of pressure! Help! Not okay: Thanksgiving is coming and I've decided I'm not counting points! I can't wait! My mom makes the best lard pie with lard topping and I swear I'm going to dive in and wallow. Okay: I can't wait for Thanksgiving! I'm going to save all my FPs and DH and I plan to do an hour long walk before dinner and after dinner. I have a very low point meal planned for breakfast, a big salad for lunch, so I can enjoy all my once a year favorites. Does anyone know the points for ____? Not okay: I'm going to use a free day for Thanksgiving. Why are the " not okay " things not okay? Because we're supposed to be a Serious Weight Watchers list, not a " kinda serious " or " serious when it's not a holiday " or " on again off again weight watchers " group. That does NOT mean that we never make mistakes. Nor does it mean we don't SHARE our mistakes with the list...we don't BRAG about them, but we use them to learn from and help others learn from. Since we're doing WWers there is no such thing as a free day on the program. In that case you are making a choice to be off program. For you that might be fine. For someone else one day, or even one meal off program derails them for good. This is why we don't discuss it here. Hey, I don't do WWers completely by the book myself. I have found ways to modify it to fit my lifestyle, but since I know what works for me and I also understand that there are people on the list who are brand new, I keep my fudging to myself. I don't want someone to say, " Well that's what Tory does so I'm going to do it too! " when they aren't doing OTHER things that I do (such as earning the amount of APs I earn, etc.) So while someone in one situation can be perfectly successful having a free day, there are many others who can't. What you do in the privacy of your own home should be what works best for you. There are no WWers police out there, banging down your door, guns drawn, screeching, " Step away from the Ding Dong! SERIOUS Weight Watchers don't eat Ding Dongs! " All we ask here is that you stick to discussing the program. Personal modifications to the actual program aren't open for discussion on this list. If I'm wrong I'm sure Lyn will correct me, but this has always been policy on the list and we'd like to keep it supportive and heading in the right direction. > > <<<<<<<<<<<As I said, the last time a SWW member bravely said she was > going to go off program for her birthday, she was not only flamed, but > even the moderators and list mom stepped forward to say clearly that > this kind of plan did not follow the SWW group guidelines. And, sadly, > that member was so hurt that she left the group. > > So, all I'm saying is that it will be interesting to see if the > moderators and list mom treat Gail differently. Bette>>>>>>>>>. > > SWW Mod here! It looks like we're being called out a little bit, so I'm > taking the bait. > > First off, the member that stated that she had gone off-program for her > birthday did not say that she was ***going*** off program...she told us > that she had not counted points for her birthday which was the night > preceding that " controversial " message. So, this was not a planned > thing... She went off program and decided to confess on the SWW board. > > Before, I explain any further, let me point out some important things. > > Yes, this is a Serious Weight Watchers board. We do not advocate people > purposefully going off program: i.e.- free days...eating well over > their points, etc. This does not mean that members do not do these > things. If you do these things and want some advice on how to stop > doing them (because you're gaining weight... You feel out of control, > etc.) then, please post a message. What we don't want here are messages > like, " I went off program last night. It felt great. Hell, I might > even do it again tomorrow night. " That's not Weight Watchers. If WW > decided to start doing free days...well, then the board would go right > along w/ that new plan. But until then, we don't like people to put > that information out there. Why you ask? Read on.... > > Free days may work for you...your neighbor...your sister. But, some > people can't do free days and stay on the program the next day. We > don't want to send messages out there that might tempt other members to > say, " Well, if she can do it, then maybe I can. " It might backfire on > that person and start a downward spiral. We're trying to eliminate that > from happening. Again, if WW starts doing free days... Well, then those > messages would be more than welcome on this board. > > SOOOO, if you do free days... Plan to overeat on holidays, etc. Please > just keep it to yourself. That's great if it works for you, but please > don't talk about it on the message board. If you gorged at dinner last > night and you're feeling out of whack and looking for support to get > back on track...send a message to the board. If you overate last night > on purpose and you're thinking that this is helpful to your diet...just > keep it to yourself. > > If you've been on this board as long as I have, you see a pattern. This > very subject comes up at least once every two months. A lot of people > get involved and people's feelings get hurt (case in point- the girl > that overate on her birthday). So, please, let's just drop the subject > and move on. > > There are no hard feelings against any members. The moderators and Lyn, > the list owner, have this list's best interest at heart. We appreciate > everyone and we don't want anyone to leave. I feel bad that we're > perceived by some as being too " hard-core " with the Weight Watchers > rules, but that's why this board rocks! That's why it doesn't go to > hell in a handbasket, because everyone starts attacking the next person > and then the only messages getting sent out are about the latest C.S.I. > episode instead of Weight Watchers. > > PLEASE e-mail me if you have any questions, concerns. If you have > anything nasty to say, please e-mail it to me privately. =) I think > this subject should be deemed null and void after this message and I > don't want to intensify any bad emotions. > > Hugs...much love...and Weight Watchers Sundae Cones. > > > SWW mod > > > > > RE: Upcoming Holidays > > Hi again, > I totally agree that there should be no flaming for stating an opinion! > That, after all, is what I'm doing -- stating my opinion. As I said, > the last time a SWW member bravely said she was going to go off program > for her birthday, she was not only flamed, but even the moderators and > list mom stepped forward to say clearly that this kind of plan did not > follow the SWW group guidelines. And, sadly, that member was so hurt > that she left the group. > > So, all I'm saying is that it will be interesting to see if the > moderators and list mom treat Gail differently. Bette > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 I'm a moderator too and in the past we have requested that, if you choose to go off program, you do not broadcast it to the list. This is what happened with the other person, and what appears to be happening here. Do your free days if you want to. Heck, eat an entire herd of antelope with butter on them, but on list we discuss how to stay on program, how to handle things if we feel like we're going to go off program. Example: Okay: Man it was my birthday yesterday and I had things planned out to a T, but then the cake monster got me and I don't know what happened. I woke up in a pile of whipped cream with a sugar hangover! Next year I'm going to go OUT to eat and if I have cake I'm going to have one piece and not bring any more into the house. Not okay: My birthday is only once a year so I went all out! I ate half a cake, drank three pitchers of tequila, and did the meringue on the kitchen table with the meter reader. It was awesome! Okay: Thanksgiving is coming and this is a holiday where I tend to waddle home and lie around for three days moaning with my pants unbuttoned. I don't want to get out my fat clothes, but I do want to enjoy the holiday without feeling a huge amount of pressure! Help! Not okay: Thanksgiving is coming and I've decided I'm not counting points! I can't wait! My mom makes the best lard pie with lard topping and I swear I'm going to dive in and wallow. Okay: I can't wait for Thanksgiving! I'm going to save all my FPs and DH and I plan to do an hour long walk before dinner and after dinner. I have a very low point meal planned for breakfast, a big salad for lunch, so I can enjoy all my once a year favorites. Does anyone know the points for ____? Not okay: I'm going to use a free day for Thanksgiving. Why are the " not okay " things not okay? Because we're supposed to be a Serious Weight Watchers list, not a " kinda serious " or " serious when it's not a holiday " or " on again off again weight watchers " group. That does NOT mean that we never make mistakes. Nor does it mean we don't SHARE our mistakes with the list...we don't BRAG about them, but we use them to learn from and help others learn from. Since we're doing WWers there is no such thing as a free day on the program. In that case you are making a choice to be off program. For you that might be fine. For someone else one day, or even one meal off program derails them for good. This is why we don't discuss it here. Hey, I don't do WWers completely by the book myself. I have found ways to modify it to fit my lifestyle, but since I know what works for me and I also understand that there are people on the list who are brand new, I keep my fudging to myself. I don't want someone to say, " Well that's what Tory does so I'm going to do it too! " when they aren't doing OTHER things that I do (such as earning the amount of APs I earn, etc.) So while someone in one situation can be perfectly successful having a free day, there are many others who can't. What you do in the privacy of your own home should be what works best for you. There are no WWers police out there, banging down your door, guns drawn, screeching, " Step away from the Ding Dong! SERIOUS Weight Watchers don't eat Ding Dongs! " All we ask here is that you stick to discussing the program. Personal modifications to the actual program aren't open for discussion on this list. If I'm wrong I'm sure Lyn will correct me, but this has always been policy on the list and we'd like to keep it supportive and heading in the right direction. > > <<<<<<<<<<<As I said, the last time a SWW member bravely said she was > going to go off program for her birthday, she was not only flamed, but > even the moderators and list mom stepped forward to say clearly that > this kind of plan did not follow the SWW group guidelines. And, sadly, > that member was so hurt that she left the group. > > So, all I'm saying is that it will be interesting to see if the > moderators and list mom treat Gail differently. Bette>>>>>>>>>. > > SWW Mod here! It looks like we're being called out a little bit, so I'm > taking the bait. > > First off, the member that stated that she had gone off-program for her > birthday did not say that she was ***going*** off program...she told us > that she had not counted points for her birthday which was the night > preceding that " controversial " message. So, this was not a planned > thing... She went off program and decided to confess on the SWW board. > > Before, I explain any further, let me point out some important things. > > Yes, this is a Serious Weight Watchers board. We do not advocate people > purposefully going off program: i.e.- free days...eating well over > their points, etc. This does not mean that members do not do these > things. If you do these things and want some advice on how to stop > doing them (because you're gaining weight... You feel out of control, > etc.) then, please post a message. What we don't want here are messages > like, " I went off program last night. It felt great. Hell, I might > even do it again tomorrow night. " That's not Weight Watchers. If WW > decided to start doing free days...well, then the board would go right > along w/ that new plan. But until then, we don't like people to put > that information out there. Why you ask? Read on.... > > Free days may work for you...your neighbor...your sister. But, some > people can't do free days and stay on the program the next day. We > don't want to send messages out there that might tempt other members to > say, " Well, if she can do it, then maybe I can. " It might backfire on > that person and start a downward spiral. We're trying to eliminate that > from happening. Again, if WW starts doing free days... Well, then those > messages would be more than welcome on this board. > > SOOOO, if you do free days... Plan to overeat on holidays, etc. Please > just keep it to yourself. That's great if it works for you, but please > don't talk about it on the message board. If you gorged at dinner last > night and you're feeling out of whack and looking for support to get > back on track...send a message to the board. If you overate last night > on purpose and you're thinking that this is helpful to your diet...just > keep it to yourself. > > If you've been on this board as long as I have, you see a pattern. This > very subject comes up at least once every two months. A lot of people > get involved and people's feelings get hurt (case in point- the girl > that overate on her birthday). So, please, let's just drop the subject > and move on. > > There are no hard feelings against any members. The moderators and Lyn, > the list owner, have this list's best interest at heart. We appreciate > everyone and we don't want anyone to leave. I feel bad that we're > perceived by some as being too " hard-core " with the Weight Watchers > rules, but that's why this board rocks! That's why it doesn't go to > hell in a handbasket, because everyone starts attacking the next person > and then the only messages getting sent out are about the latest C.S.I. > episode instead of Weight Watchers. > > PLEASE e-mail me if you have any questions, concerns. If you have > anything nasty to say, please e-mail it to me privately. =) I think > this subject should be deemed null and void after this message and I > don't want to intensify any bad emotions. > > Hugs...much love...and Weight Watchers Sundae Cones. > > > SWW mod > > > > > RE: Upcoming Holidays > > Hi again, > I totally agree that there should be no flaming for stating an opinion! > That, after all, is what I'm doing -- stating my opinion. As I said, > the last time a SWW member bravely said she was going to go off program > for her birthday, she was not only flamed, but even the moderators and > list mom stepped forward to say clearly that this kind of plan did not > follow the SWW group guidelines. And, sadly, that member was so hurt > that she left the group. > > So, all I'm saying is that it will be interesting to see if the > moderators and list mom treat Gail differently. Bette > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Actually, I just thought of a good analogy to why we limit our discussions to staying on program. I'm a high school teacher. As such, I need to be a role model to my students. I might go home every night and drink myself into a stupor while smoking three joints and shooting up with Heroin. I might cuddle my bottle of JD and whisper sweet nothings into my shot glass. I dream alcohol drenched dreams and my organs might be so pickled that the Vlasic Stork has set up a second home in my liver. But when I stand up in front of my students I keep that part of my lifestyle to myself. I may not be making good decisions. Or, I might be making decisions that are appropriate for ME, but not for THEM. That's my personal business. I would be remiss, though, if I stood up and said, " Hey! I drink a fifth with dinner every day and I'm okay, so you should feel free to go for it! " That's kind of what we're asking here. Be a role model to others. Being a role model does NOT mean that you never make a mistake or even admit to them. My health students all know that I was unhealthy and obese at one time, so they know I'm not perfect. But as a role model to others you should try to strive for doing the right thing, even when you don't want to. And when you do make a concious plan to just have an off program day, that's your business. Just please be a role model on the list and keep that to yourself. I may be planning on going to a party this weekend and getting a little tipsy, but I won't share it with my students. (By the way...I um, don't sleep with a shot glass, nor have I ever shot up Heroin and I don't smoke marijuana or anything else. I've smoked a fish...well, I tried, but the flame kept going out.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Actually, I just thought of a good analogy to why we limit our discussions to staying on program. I'm a high school teacher. As such, I need to be a role model to my students. I might go home every night and drink myself into a stupor while smoking three joints and shooting up with Heroin. I might cuddle my bottle of JD and whisper sweet nothings into my shot glass. I dream alcohol drenched dreams and my organs might be so pickled that the Vlasic Stork has set up a second home in my liver. But when I stand up in front of my students I keep that part of my lifestyle to myself. I may not be making good decisions. Or, I might be making decisions that are appropriate for ME, but not for THEM. That's my personal business. I would be remiss, though, if I stood up and said, " Hey! I drink a fifth with dinner every day and I'm okay, so you should feel free to go for it! " That's kind of what we're asking here. Be a role model to others. Being a role model does NOT mean that you never make a mistake or even admit to them. My health students all know that I was unhealthy and obese at one time, so they know I'm not perfect. But as a role model to others you should try to strive for doing the right thing, even when you don't want to. And when you do make a concious plan to just have an off program day, that's your business. Just please be a role model on the list and keep that to yourself. I may be planning on going to a party this weekend and getting a little tipsy, but I won't share it with my students. (By the way...I um, don't sleep with a shot glass, nor have I ever shot up Heroin and I don't smoke marijuana or anything else. I've smoked a fish...well, I tried, but the flame kept going out.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Actually, I just thought of a good analogy to why we limit our discussions to staying on program. I'm a high school teacher. As such, I need to be a role model to my students. I might go home every night and drink myself into a stupor while smoking three joints and shooting up with Heroin. I might cuddle my bottle of JD and whisper sweet nothings into my shot glass. I dream alcohol drenched dreams and my organs might be so pickled that the Vlasic Stork has set up a second home in my liver. But when I stand up in front of my students I keep that part of my lifestyle to myself. I may not be making good decisions. Or, I might be making decisions that are appropriate for ME, but not for THEM. That's my personal business. I would be remiss, though, if I stood up and said, " Hey! I drink a fifth with dinner every day and I'm okay, so you should feel free to go for it! " That's kind of what we're asking here. Be a role model to others. Being a role model does NOT mean that you never make a mistake or even admit to them. My health students all know that I was unhealthy and obese at one time, so they know I'm not perfect. But as a role model to others you should try to strive for doing the right thing, even when you don't want to. And when you do make a concious plan to just have an off program day, that's your business. Just please be a role model on the list and keep that to yourself. I may be planning on going to a party this weekend and getting a little tipsy, but I won't share it with my students. (By the way...I um, don't sleep with a shot glass, nor have I ever shot up Heroin and I don't smoke marijuana or anything else. I've smoked a fish...well, I tried, but the flame kept going out.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Going through the files to see what was there, I found this wonderful poem that might help people with the upcoming holidays. When you've eaten too much and you can't write it down, And you feel like the biggest failure in town. When you want to give up just because you gave in, And forgot all about being healthy and thin. So What! You went over your points a bit, It's your next move that counts...So don't you quit! It's a moment of truth, it's an attitude change. It's learning the skills to get back in your range. It's telling yourself, " You've done great up till now. You can take on this challenge and beat it somehow. " It's part of your journey toward reaching your goal. You're still gonna make it, just stay in control. To stumble and fall is not a disgrace, If you summon the will to get back in the race. But, often the sturggler's, when losing their grip, Just throw in the towel and continue to slip. And learn too late when the damage is done, That the race wasn't over and they still could have won. Life-style change can be awkward and slow, But facing each challenge will help you to grow. Success is failure turned inside out, The silver tint in the cloud of doubt. When you're pushing to the brink, just refuse to submit. If you bite it, you write it....But Don't you quit! I think I'm gonna print it out and keep it on my dresser mirror so I can see it every day. (the other) Beth > Actually, I just thought of a good analogy to why we limit our > discussions to staying on program. > > I'm a high school teacher. As such, I need to be a role model to my students. > > I might go home every night and drink myself into a stupor while > smoking three joints and shooting up with Heroin. I might cuddle my > bottle of JD and whisper sweet nothings into my shot glass. I dream > alcohol drenched dreams and my organs might be so pickled that the > Vlasic Stork has set up a second home in my liver. > > But when I stand up in front of my students I keep that part of my > lifestyle to myself. I may not be making good decisions. Or, I might > be making decisions that are appropriate for ME, but not for THEM. > That's my personal business. I would be remiss, though, if I stood up > and said, " Hey! I drink a fifth with dinner every day and I'm okay, so > you should feel free to go for it! " > > That's kind of what we're asking here. Be a role model to others. > Being a role model does NOT mean that you never make a mistake or even > admit to them. My health students all know that I was unhealthy and > obese at one time, so they know I'm not perfect. But as a role model > to others you should try to strive for doing the right thing, even > when you don't want to. And when you do make a concious plan to just > have an off program day, that's your business. Just please be a role > model on the list and keep that to yourself. I may be planning on > going to a party this weekend and getting a little tipsy, but I won't > share it with my students. > > (By the way...I um, don't sleep with a shot glass, nor have I ever > shot up Heroin and I don't smoke marijuana or anything else. I've > smoked a fish...well, I tried, but the flame kept going out.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Going through the files to see what was there, I found this wonderful poem that might help people with the upcoming holidays. When you've eaten too much and you can't write it down, And you feel like the biggest failure in town. When you want to give up just because you gave in, And forgot all about being healthy and thin. So What! You went over your points a bit, It's your next move that counts...So don't you quit! It's a moment of truth, it's an attitude change. It's learning the skills to get back in your range. It's telling yourself, " You've done great up till now. You can take on this challenge and beat it somehow. " It's part of your journey toward reaching your goal. You're still gonna make it, just stay in control. To stumble and fall is not a disgrace, If you summon the will to get back in the race. But, often the sturggler's, when losing their grip, Just throw in the towel and continue to slip. And learn too late when the damage is done, That the race wasn't over and they still could have won. Life-style change can be awkward and slow, But facing each challenge will help you to grow. Success is failure turned inside out, The silver tint in the cloud of doubt. When you're pushing to the brink, just refuse to submit. If you bite it, you write it....But Don't you quit! I think I'm gonna print it out and keep it on my dresser mirror so I can see it every day. (the other) Beth > Actually, I just thought of a good analogy to why we limit our > discussions to staying on program. > > I'm a high school teacher. As such, I need to be a role model to my students. > > I might go home every night and drink myself into a stupor while > smoking three joints and shooting up with Heroin. I might cuddle my > bottle of JD and whisper sweet nothings into my shot glass. I dream > alcohol drenched dreams and my organs might be so pickled that the > Vlasic Stork has set up a second home in my liver. > > But when I stand up in front of my students I keep that part of my > lifestyle to myself. I may not be making good decisions. Or, I might > be making decisions that are appropriate for ME, but not for THEM. > That's my personal business. I would be remiss, though, if I stood up > and said, " Hey! I drink a fifth with dinner every day and I'm okay, so > you should feel free to go for it! " > > That's kind of what we're asking here. Be a role model to others. > Being a role model does NOT mean that you never make a mistake or even > admit to them. My health students all know that I was unhealthy and > obese at one time, so they know I'm not perfect. But as a role model > to others you should try to strive for doing the right thing, even > when you don't want to. And when you do make a concious plan to just > have an off program day, that's your business. Just please be a role > model on the list and keep that to yourself. I may be planning on > going to a party this weekend and getting a little tipsy, but I won't > share it with my students. > > (By the way...I um, don't sleep with a shot glass, nor have I ever > shot up Heroin and I don't smoke marijuana or anything else. I've > smoked a fish...well, I tried, but the flame kept going out.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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