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A hard lesson I am learning, is that if we waste too much time trying to

help those who do not want to hear us, then we are wasting precious time and

energy that could be going to those who want to understand and get better.

It can be real difficult when you think you understand some things, but

nobody is willing to even LISTEN, to consider it.

~Inga

on 12/6/04 6:22 AM, at marin@... wrote:

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> I've spoken about my brother before, though I can't remember whether I did

> on this site, maybe on the Tx site or another one. Anyway, I can still see

> that stare (without blinking) in his eyes, the ups and downs of what the

> medical profession was calling bipolar disorder. EVERYthing about him,

> through the yrs, screamed thyroid at me, the more I read and looked.

> Nothing ever kept him from being nervous and driven, depressed, then way up

> " in the sky " , going cross country, where noone knew where he was, severe

> stomach pain, very thin, but could eat forever, and I still believe that it

> was hyperthyroidism that never gave over. He would have muscle weakness

> that was unexplained, then he'd be ok for awhile. There are myriads of

> other things about him that make me believe this. Trying to help others

> with this is how I have grieved for him, my two daughters with this, and

> myself. I've suspected my mother for about the last yr or so of having

> these swings, for as far back as I can remember, but she won't listen to me

> about this, as won't my sister, who had a " breakdown " a short while back.

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>> on 12/5/04 8:59 AM, nc2406@... at nc2406@... wrote:

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>>>

>>> Dang Inga...your post about made me cry..beause I recognized so many of

> the

>>> same things about my Mom. Here's the really bad part. My mom was a

> suicide

>>> and it was totally unexpected. Ya reckon the depression from the hypo

> had

>>> just

>>> gotten to her?

>>

>> I reckon.

>>

>>> Yea. Her autopsy indicated a fibrous thyroid with nodules and

>>> adrenal hyperplasia.

>>>

>>> Like your mom, she would clean house at night. Her hair had been gray

> and

>>> coarse feeling for two decades. We used to comment on it. Her heels

> were dry

>>> and cracked and she had been putting lotion on them for decades.

>>

>> My mom usually had 10-15 bottles of all sorts of lotions on her side

> table.

>> The cracking as so bad, and the skin was soooo thick...

>>

>>> all the time getting bruises and didn't know how she got them. I can

> also

>>> remember her taking Ex-Lax laxative for years...and she downed Metamucil

> every

>>> day. I look back and don't know how she did all she did for so many

>>> people...she was a caring and generous soul...

>>

>> That's the important part.

>>

>> My mom was the same way..... WHen they did an angiogram, they said that

> she

>> could have made the covers of all the medical journals, in that they could

>> not find one reason that she should have been alive for at least the past

> 10

>> years.

>>

>> They said she HAD NO pulse in her legs.... had a ruptured aorta that

> managed

>> to heal itself, had a severly balooned-out heart, the heart was pumping

> at

>> about 10% at best, no remaining arteries to her heart, but merely a few

>> spider veins....that she had had a few heart attacks (for which she never

>> received medical attention,) and through all this, she managed to care

> for

>> my dad AT HOME till his death from Azheimer's.

>>

>>

>>> and I think she went as long as she could.

>>>

>> I am sure she did

>>

>>> Get this. In the last conversation she had with me...when i was asking

> her

>>> something about her ear problems

>>

>> My mom had the heavy wax in her ears too.

>>

>>> (she was having some pain again), she said to

>>> me " I've had it with doctors " . In other words, she had given up and I

> just

>>> didn't realize the full impact of that statement.

>>

>> So maybe she wanted to put a stop to what the doctors were doing to her???

>>

>>> But ya know, it's

>>> understandable. Because so many of us here have gone for years and

>>> years...and not a

>>> dang bit of help from doctors except a missed diagnosis.

>>

>> Tell me about it. Ithink I would be dead myself if it were up to the AMA

>> doctors.

>>>

>>> But you're right. We honor our mother's memories by informing everyone

> we

>>> can when we think they have low thyroid....we honor them when we refuse

> to

>>> take

>>> any crap off of the medical profession that failed them (and us)...

>>

>> YES, medical doctors are indoctrinated in fear, and so they hang on to

> every

>> shread of medical dogma they can, in order to stay in control as Gods who

>> have all the answers should. (And we (collectively) have partially put

> them

>> there, and I think it is due time to relieve them of their appointed

>> pedestals.

>>

>> SO, I hope that folks sometimes understand if I get a little crass and/or

>> opinionated....and sometimes bring up other issues as well. (like mercury,

>> for one) I really don't care too much if I am always politically correct,

>> but there is a message I am trying to get accross - also, that we are

>> ultimately responsible for our own healing.

>>

>>> and we honor them when we share what we know with others and help each

>> other...so that

>>> someone else does not go thru it too.

>>

>> Yes, and Knowing that some mistakes will also be made along the way....but

>> remembering that an error is simply an invitaiton to correction.

>>

>> Let's always strive to seek/keep an OPEN mind and OPEN heart.

>>

>> ~Inga

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