Re: Mike -Am No Longer Nurse Ratchet...Now Have A Healers Touch!!!

[Guest guest]

As my wife said (first words out of her mouth on first seeing Barb

at birth): " Hot diggety damn! " Of course, she later said, " I can't

believe I said that. "

I am going to comment on a few of the points you made or questions

you asked. Your comments followed by mine, section by section.

Bernie:

.... letting my fingers go where they seem to want to. I felt that

pulse that you talk about, but am wondering am I really feeling the

pulse of my own index finger. Does it matter if you use the index

or the 2nd finger. Do you press firmly, or lightly? Do you shake

off the energy after each time you press or just at the very end.

Mike:

Several good observations. You absolutely " trust your hands " and

follow your intuition. If they feel drawn someplace, let them go.

Not being sure of the pulse is common - is it yours? Is it theirs?

That kind of thing. Generally, it won't have the same cadence as a

regular pulse and if you are using both hands, it will usually not

be balanced, one hand to the other. You can also feel other types

of energetic sensations - waves, swirls, etc. You never know. Use

whichever finger feels " right " to you. Yes, it can matter which

finger and yes, it can matter how firm a pressure you use - in

theory, if you are going by the book. I don't go by the book. My

intentions are always to " seek a balance " and I neither try to

increase nor decrease. I just want it to balance. That is not how

it is necessarily taught, but that is the way I do it and it seems

to work just fine for me. As for energy shake-off - do it as you

feel the need. I rarely do it at all. I know other practitioners

that are constantly doing it. Do whatever feels right for you. A

common practice is to rinse your hands with cold running water to

dispense the excess energy from your hands when you are done. The

big issue is whether you are able to adequately ground and center

yourself while working. It is a problem for some. It doesn't seem

to be one for me.

Bernie:

....and he is convinced I have acquired a healing touch.

Mike:

No - it is something you have always had. It is something ALL of us

have. It's just that we have been taught or conditioned to deny it

and we just have to wake it up. The biggest trick to doing that is

to just open yourself to the possibility of the reality - to suspend

your disbelief and let happen what will happen. (Easy for me to

say - since I have been resisting and fighting all of this in me for

almost two years now.) Believe me, once you do any of it and accept

it as yours ... things can start to get really interesting.

On that note, do you have any idea how hard it has been for me to

open up to the list - to FULLY open up to the list - about some of

this? There are places in this country even today that could take

some of my posts and use them as conclusive evidence that I am being

delusional and should be locked up and strongly medicated for my own

best interests. Part of the reason I have opened up is that I know

that some of the list will try some of these things. And some of

the list may have an experience or two doing it that will be a bit

freaky for them. I am trying to smooth the stumble spots by

relating my own wierd turnings along the path. And some of those

turnings have definitely been wierd...and they just keep getting

wierder.

Bernie:

Thing is..I have no clear idea how exactly I accomplished this. Are

there any points around the knee or the back of the knee I should

avoid. It seems to me that the ligament at the lateral side and the

muscle at the upper back of the knee were tight or in spasm or is it

possible the warm compress did the trick.

Mike:

Join the crowd. I have a clear idea what I am doing and what is

happening 90-95% of the time. The other 5-10%? I haven't got a

clue. With the exception of certain points that are forbidden

during pregnancy, you don't have much to worry about with light

pressure anywhere doing energy. As for the knee, you don't apply

any heavy direct pressure in the middle of the back of the knee or

on top of the knee cap itself because there are nerve bundles in the

knee. You don't need to " avoid " either location if you are using

light touch, directed energy. Just don't put heavy physical

pressure on either. You are very likely correct about the knee area

being tight or in spasm. The warm compress may have done the trick

or it might have just been the energy work itself. Don't ever

discount what might have just been a result of your hands. If I had

to bet, I would bet that it was you and not the compress that did

the job.

Bernie:

I had no idea the pressure a " Healer " feels for the repeat

performance,

Mike:

One of the " boundary " issues you need to quickly come to grips with

is the problem of becoming " results " oriented. All of the

ramifications would take a post of their own, but you need to guard

against the " must get results " mind-set. You don't impart your own

energy; you don't take theirs (there are exceptions, but those are

the general rules of thumb). And there are times when you won't get

results because the benefit of the cure does not equal the benefit

derived from the pain - the client " needs " their pain for some

reason. Accept it and move on. My personal philosophy is " I will

do everything that it is within me to do, but I guarantee nothing. "

Bernie:

Any further tips you might have would be appreciated.

Mike:

Kind of review some of the posts I have sent on the various

instructions. Getting a copy of Gach is a really good idea for the

acupressure part of things. As for the Polarity, the big piece of

that that I push you already have down - two hand hold or position.

Bernie:

Toronto has a very large oriental community and there must be

practitioners here whom I could observe or learn from though they may

not be eager to pass on the knowledge.

Mike:

Bodyworkers and alternative practitioners are far far more willing

to " share " than any conventional health care provider you will ever

run into. If you do want to check into some of it, I might be able

to help track somebody down for you.

[Guest guest]

Thanks hugely Mike. Your feedback is definitely appreciated and will

keep your guidance at the fore. I think it was the energy too. No warm

facecloth was going to resolve that hobble. Bill is so relieved to be

pain free and mobile that I will just have to take this out in trade.

Bernie

Re: Mike -Am No Longer Nurse Ratchet...Now Have A

Healers Touch!!!

As my wife said (first words out of her mouth on first seeing Barb

at birth): " Hot diggety damn! " Of course, she later said, " I can't

believe I said that. "

[Guest guest]

Thanks hugely Mike. Your feedback is definitely appreciated and will

keep your guidance at the fore. I think it was the energy too. No warm

facecloth was going to resolve that hobble. Bill is so relieved to be

pain free and mobile that I will just have to take this out in trade.

Bernie

Re: Mike -Am No Longer Nurse Ratchet...Now Have A

Healers Touch!!!

As my wife said (first words out of her mouth on first seeing Barb

at birth): " Hot diggety damn! " Of course, she later said, " I can't

believe I said that. "

[Guest guest]

Thanks hugely Mike. Your feedback is definitely appreciated and will

keep your guidance at the fore. I think it was the energy too. No warm

facecloth was going to resolve that hobble. Bill is so relieved to be

pain free and mobile that I will just have to take this out in trade.

Bernie

Re: Mike -Am No Longer Nurse Ratchet...Now Have A

Healers Touch!!!

As my wife said (first words out of her mouth on first seeing Barb

at birth): " Hot diggety damn! " Of course, she later said, " I can't

believe I said that. "

[Guest guest]

The

big issue is whether you are able to adequately ground and center

yourself while working.

Mike, what exactly do you mean by this, and how do you go about it??

Thanks!

Love Lana

[Guest guest]

No Mike, we, and Bill particularly is still amazed, primarily because he

has had gnawing, nagging, miserable pain in the knee on previous

occasions for lengthy periods. The only other treatment it compares to

for immediate results is giving a severely comatose diabetic glucose and

watching them like magic revive. I still vividly recall my absolute

amazement the first time I saw this as a young nurse. I do know why

doctors get the power complex and total belief in only the biochemistry

of medicine, a major occupational hazard. Bernie

-----Original Message-----

From: mikeuggen

Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:30 AM

If the two of you hadn't experienced it the way you did last night,

you never would have believed how effective it can be, would you?

The ability of that one technique to just flat shut down the pain

and free up a joint still floors me at times, and I have done it

bunches of times by now. I think if I had to limit myself to just

one technique for everything, that one would be right up there in at

least the top three and at the moment I can't think of what would

beat it for first and second.

[Guest guest]

No Mike, we, and Bill particularly is still amazed...The only other

treatment it compares to for immediate results is giving a severely

comatose diabetic glucose and watching them like magic revive...I do

know why doctors get the power complex and total belief in only the

biochemistry of medicine, a major occupational hazard.

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Have I ever mentioned how I visualize my " educational " role in all

this stuff?

I think of myself as standing at the edge of a calm, serene pond,

and gently tossing pebbles in the water ... and watching to see what

the ripples do.

My " suggestions " are the pebbles. Reply posts like yours, where

someone with no background, training or belief in it, trys something

and gets jaw dropping results and then tells everybody else on the

list are the ripples.