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Hello all:)

I am getting ready to have Kris move into a bigger shoe size and was wondering

before we purchase another pair, if anyone has a pair that are a size 5 that

they no longer need? Here in Hawaii, the shoes cost way more then what you guys

are paying. they run about $400,00 or so. I think that's because of shipping?

Who knows, but before I go in to have them get me another pair, I thought I

should ask here before we pay that price. After paying for Kris to go into OR

(3 times) for his re-casting, we are a little tight on funds (cost came out to

be about 18,000.00, ins. covered most, but we have to pay about 4,000.00 or so,

that is just the est. cost.). But if there are none we will find a way as we

have all this time:) His feet are doing fine, but the frt toe's are turning in

again, because he has this habit of curling the big toe's under all the time!

Please let me know, and paying for shipping or anything else is not a problem.

Still cheaper then getting the shoes here:)

He is wearing the DBB shoes that look just like with the adj. red bar

and the shoes have straps and laces exactly the same as pictures:) He is

now in a size 4? but his toes are hanging out the frt already, and he has been

getting fussy and waking up at nights. I am thinking it's because he is not

comfortable with the shoes. He has not complained about them or woke up at

nights for a very long time. The bar is adj. to his shoulder length, and can not

be moved any more, it has reached it's limit. There is a mom here that will be

needing these shoes for her son soon, and was going to donate them to her,

because they too have a hard time paying for shoes:) It feels so good to know

your helping a mom this way:)

anyhow, please let me know:) I would much appreciate it:) And put them to good

use. also will pass them on to any needed mother when we are outgrowing these

also:)!

My doctor has asked me to be in charge of putting together a support group here

for moms & dads:) that are just starting out. there is no place for them to turn

to or anyone to talk to about there everyday challenges. I have been thinking

this would be a great way to give back, and told him I would try and help if I

could. Are there any support groups out there? He will also spend time to come

and talk to and answer any questions there might be. It would help him a lot due

to the calls on things that are not medically related, and they just do not know

where else to turn:)

Sorry so long:)

Aloha Carole

Mom to Kristopher 6-11-02 Bilateral CF Ponseti since 7 weeks casted twice, and

still pressing on!!!:)

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Hello all:)

I am getting ready to have Kris move into a bigger shoe size and was wondering

before we purchase another pair, if anyone has a pair that are a size 5 that

they no longer need? Here in Hawaii, the shoes cost way more then what you guys

are paying. they run about $400,00 or so. I think that's because of shipping?

Who knows, but before I go in to have them get me another pair, I thought I

should ask here before we pay that price. After paying for Kris to go into OR

(3 times) for his re-casting, we are a little tight on funds (cost came out to

be about 18,000.00, ins. covered most, but we have to pay about 4,000.00 or so,

that is just the est. cost.). But if there are none we will find a way as we

have all this time:) His feet are doing fine, but the frt toe's are turning in

again, because he has this habit of curling the big toe's under all the time!

Please let me know, and paying for shipping or anything else is not a problem.

Still cheaper then getting the shoes here:)

He is wearing the DBB shoes that look just like with the adj. red bar

and the shoes have straps and laces exactly the same as pictures:) He is

now in a size 4? but his toes are hanging out the frt already, and he has been

getting fussy and waking up at nights. I am thinking it's because he is not

comfortable with the shoes. He has not complained about them or woke up at

nights for a very long time. The bar is adj. to his shoulder length, and can not

be moved any more, it has reached it's limit. There is a mom here that will be

needing these shoes for her son soon, and was going to donate them to her,

because they too have a hard time paying for shoes:) It feels so good to know

your helping a mom this way:)

anyhow, please let me know:) I would much appreciate it:) And put them to good

use. also will pass them on to any needed mother when we are outgrowing these

also:)!

My doctor has asked me to be in charge of putting together a support group here

for moms & dads:) that are just starting out. there is no place for them to turn

to or anyone to talk to about there everyday challenges. I have been thinking

this would be a great way to give back, and told him I would try and help if I

could. Are there any support groups out there? He will also spend time to come

and talk to and answer any questions there might be. It would help him a lot due

to the calls on things that are not medically related, and they just do not know

where else to turn:)

Sorry so long:)

Aloha Carole

Mom to Kristopher 6-11-02 Bilateral CF Ponseti since 7 weeks casted twice, and

still pressing on!!!:)

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Carole,

I thought Kris was being seen at Shriners, at least partially. If so,

can't they get shoes for you? I'd send you ours, but they're too small. I

have some 2.5's and soon some 3's, her feet grow fast!

I wonder if someone here can't get a pair for the $60 or whatever it costs

normally and ship them to you. They weigh a whole 1.5#. whoopie ding

dong... don't tell me it costs $300 to ship them to HI. It sounds like

the orthotics shop is making a @#$%^ pot of $ on these. That's horrible

anyone would make you pay so much. Too bad you can't order directly from

Markell, is that the only place you can get them there? There's got to be

some other solution...

>Kori

Mama of

Kenton 6/98

Merek 3/00

Darbi 3/03 - Rt. CF - DBB 12hr/day

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At 02:28 PM 9/2/2004, you wrote:

>Hello all:)

>

> I am getting ready to have Kris move into a bigger shoe size and was

> wondering before we purchase another pair, if anyone has a pair that are

> a size 5 that they no longer need? Here in Hawaii, the shoes cost way

> more then what you guys are paying. they run about $400,00 or so. I think

> that's because of shipping? Who knows, but before I go in to have them

> get me another pair, I thought I should ask here before we pay that

> price. After paying for Kris to go into OR (3 times) for his re-casting,

> we are a little tight on funds (cost came out to be about 18,000.00, ins.

> covered most, but we have to pay about 4,000.00 or so, that is just the

> est. cost.). But if there are none we will find a way as we have all this

> time:) His feet are doing fine, but the frt toe's are turning in again,

> because he has this habit of curling the big toe's under all the time!

>Please let me know, and paying for shipping or anything else is not a

>problem. Still cheaper then getting the shoes here:)

>He is wearing the DBB shoes that look just like with the adj. red

>bar and the shoes have straps and laces exactly the same as

>pictures:) He is now in a size 4? but his toes are hanging out the frt

>already, and he has been getting fussy and waking up at nights. I am

>thinking it's because he is not comfortable with the shoes. He has not

>complained about them or woke up at nights for a very long time. The bar

>is adj. to his shoulder length, and can not be moved any more, it has

>reached it's limit. There is a mom here that will be needing these shoes

>for her son soon, and was going to donate them to her, because they too

>have a hard time paying for shoes:) It feels so good to know your helping

>a mom this way:)

>anyhow, please let me know:) I would much appreciate it:) And put them to

>good use. also will pass them on to any needed mother when we are

>outgrowing these also:)!

>My doctor has asked me to be in charge of putting together a support group

>here for moms & dads:) that are just starting out. there is no place for

>them to turn to or anyone to talk to about there everyday challenges. I

>have been thinking this would be a great way to give back, and told him I

>would try and help if I could. Are there any support groups out there? He

>will also spend time to come and talk to and answer any questions there

>might be. It would help him a lot due to the calls on things that are not

>medically related, and they just do not know where else to turn:)

>Sorry so long:)

>Aloha Carole

>Mom to Kristopher 6-11-02 Bilateral CF Ponseti since 7 weeks casted twice,

>and still pressing on!!!:)

>

>

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Hi Carole, glad to hear things are going well with you guys! About

Kris rolling his toes under, it could be due to the boots being too

small for him! Anyway, I would suggest that if his toes are hanging

over the edge of the size 4's, you might want to consider getting a

size 6 next so that he'll have some growing room in them. We

normally go up 2 sizes at a time here (from 0's to 2's and now in

4's).

About the cost of the boots, I second Cori's suggestion of trying to

get them directly from Jay Markell. Go to his website and print out

the sizing chart so that you can measure Kris' feet and get the

appropriate size.

Here is the info for Markell:

M.J. Markell Shoe Co., Inc.

Device: Tarso Medius straight last shoes, Style #1644 or #2644

Address: 504 Saw Mill River Rd., Yonkers, NY 10701

Phone:

Fax:

Web: www.markellshoe.com

Also, if you check the Foot Abduction Orthosis Setup Document (in the

files section here), you can follow the instructions for measuring

Kris' feet. Here is what that doc says:

" Shoe size: Length from heel to longest toe plus ½ " -3/4 "

i. Measure shoe from inside heel to very end of the shoe sole "

I hope this helps!

Daiga and Owen, 02/04/03

Unilateral LCF, FAB 14/24

>

>

> >Hello all:)

> >

> > I am getting ready to have Kris move into a bigger shoe size

and was

> > wondering before we purchase another pair, if anyone has a pair

that are

> > a size 5 that they no longer need? Here in Hawaii, the shoes cost

way

> > more then what you guys are paying. they run about $400,00 or so.

I think

> > that's because of shipping? Who knows, but before I go in to have

them

> > get me another pair, I thought I should ask here before we pay

that

> > price. After paying for Kris to go into OR (3 times) for his re-

casting,

> > we are a little tight on funds (cost came out to be about

18,000.00, ins.

> > covered most, but we have to pay about 4,000.00 or so, that is

just the

> > est. cost.). But if there are none we will find a way as we have

all this

> > time:) His feet are doing fine, but the frt toe's are turning in

again,

> > because he has this habit of curling the big toe's under all the

time!

> >Please let me know, and paying for shipping or anything else is

not a

> >problem. Still cheaper then getting the shoes here:)

> >He is wearing the DBB shoes that look just like with the

adj. red

> >bar and the shoes have straps and laces exactly the same as

> >pictures:) He is now in a size 4? but his toes are hanging out the

frt

> >already, and he has been getting fussy and waking up at nights. I

am

> >thinking it's because he is not comfortable with the shoes. He has

not

> >complained about them or woke up at nights for a very long time.

The bar

> >is adj. to his shoulder length, and can not be moved any more, it

has

> >reached it's limit. There is a mom here that will be needing

these shoes

> >for her son soon, and was going to donate them to her, because

they too

> >have a hard time paying for shoes:) It feels so good to know your

helping

> >a mom this way:)

> >anyhow, please let me know:) I would much appreciate it:) And put

them to

> >good use. also will pass them on to any needed mother when we are

> >outgrowing these also:)!

> >My doctor has asked me to be in charge of putting together a

support group

> >here for moms & dads:) that are just starting out. there is no

place for

> >them to turn to or anyone to talk to about there everyday

challenges. I

> >have been thinking this would be a great way to give back, and

told him I

> >would try and help if I could. Are there any support groups out

there? He

> >will also spend time to come and talk to and answer any questions

there

> >might be. It would help him a lot due to the calls on things that

are not

> >medically related, and they just do not know where else to turn:)

> >Sorry so long:)

> >Aloha Carole

> >Mom to Kristopher 6-11-02 Bilateral CF Ponseti since 7 weeks

casted twice,

> >and still pressing on!!!:)

> >

> >

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Hi Carole, glad to hear things are going well with you guys! About

Kris rolling his toes under, it could be due to the boots being too

small for him! Anyway, I would suggest that if his toes are hanging

over the edge of the size 4's, you might want to consider getting a

size 6 next so that he'll have some growing room in them. We

normally go up 2 sizes at a time here (from 0's to 2's and now in

4's).

About the cost of the boots, I second Cori's suggestion of trying to

get them directly from Jay Markell. Go to his website and print out

the sizing chart so that you can measure Kris' feet and get the

appropriate size.

Here is the info for Markell:

M.J. Markell Shoe Co., Inc.

Device: Tarso Medius straight last shoes, Style #1644 or #2644

Address: 504 Saw Mill River Rd., Yonkers, NY 10701

Phone:

Fax:

Web: www.markellshoe.com

Also, if you check the Foot Abduction Orthosis Setup Document (in the

files section here), you can follow the instructions for measuring

Kris' feet. Here is what that doc says:

" Shoe size: Length from heel to longest toe plus ½ " -3/4 "

i. Measure shoe from inside heel to very end of the shoe sole "

I hope this helps!

Daiga and Owen, 02/04/03

Unilateral LCF, FAB 14/24

>

>

> >Hello all:)

> >

> > I am getting ready to have Kris move into a bigger shoe size

and was

> > wondering before we purchase another pair, if anyone has a pair

that are

> > a size 5 that they no longer need? Here in Hawaii, the shoes cost

way

> > more then what you guys are paying. they run about $400,00 or so.

I think

> > that's because of shipping? Who knows, but before I go in to have

them

> > get me another pair, I thought I should ask here before we pay

that

> > price. After paying for Kris to go into OR (3 times) for his re-

casting,

> > we are a little tight on funds (cost came out to be about

18,000.00, ins.

> > covered most, but we have to pay about 4,000.00 or so, that is

just the

> > est. cost.). But if there are none we will find a way as we have

all this

> > time:) His feet are doing fine, but the frt toe's are turning in

again,

> > because he has this habit of curling the big toe's under all the

time!

> >Please let me know, and paying for shipping or anything else is

not a

> >problem. Still cheaper then getting the shoes here:)

> >He is wearing the DBB shoes that look just like with the

adj. red

> >bar and the shoes have straps and laces exactly the same as

> >pictures:) He is now in a size 4? but his toes are hanging out the

frt

> >already, and he has been getting fussy and waking up at nights. I

am

> >thinking it's because he is not comfortable with the shoes. He has

not

> >complained about them or woke up at nights for a very long time.

The bar

> >is adj. to his shoulder length, and can not be moved any more, it

has

> >reached it's limit. There is a mom here that will be needing

these shoes

> >for her son soon, and was going to donate them to her, because

they too

> >have a hard time paying for shoes:) It feels so good to know your

helping

> >a mom this way:)

> >anyhow, please let me know:) I would much appreciate it:) And put

them to

> >good use. also will pass them on to any needed mother when we are

> >outgrowing these also:)!

> >My doctor has asked me to be in charge of putting together a

support group

> >here for moms & dads:) that are just starting out. there is no

place for

> >them to turn to or anyone to talk to about there everyday

challenges. I

> >have been thinking this would be a great way to give back, and

told him I

> >would try and help if I could. Are there any support groups out

there? He

> >will also spend time to come and talk to and answer any questions

there

> >might be. It would help him a lot due to the calls on things that

are not

> >medically related, and they just do not know where else to turn:)

> >Sorry so long:)

> >Aloha Carole

> >Mom to Kristopher 6-11-02 Bilateral CF Ponseti since 7 weeks

casted twice,

> >and still pressing on!!!:)

> >

> >

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Hi Carole, glad to hear things are going well with you guys! About

Kris rolling his toes under, it could be due to the boots being too

small for him! Anyway, I would suggest that if his toes are hanging

over the edge of the size 4's, you might want to consider getting a

size 6 next so that he'll have some growing room in them. We

normally go up 2 sizes at a time here (from 0's to 2's and now in

4's).

About the cost of the boots, I second Cori's suggestion of trying to

get them directly from Jay Markell. Go to his website and print out

the sizing chart so that you can measure Kris' feet and get the

appropriate size.

Here is the info for Markell:

M.J. Markell Shoe Co., Inc.

Device: Tarso Medius straight last shoes, Style #1644 or #2644

Address: 504 Saw Mill River Rd., Yonkers, NY 10701

Phone:

Fax:

Web: www.markellshoe.com

Also, if you check the Foot Abduction Orthosis Setup Document (in the

files section here), you can follow the instructions for measuring

Kris' feet. Here is what that doc says:

" Shoe size: Length from heel to longest toe plus ½ " -3/4 "

i. Measure shoe from inside heel to very end of the shoe sole "

I hope this helps!

Daiga and Owen, 02/04/03

Unilateral LCF, FAB 14/24

>

>

> >Hello all:)

> >

> > I am getting ready to have Kris move into a bigger shoe size

and was

> > wondering before we purchase another pair, if anyone has a pair

that are

> > a size 5 that they no longer need? Here in Hawaii, the shoes cost

way

> > more then what you guys are paying. they run about $400,00 or so.

I think

> > that's because of shipping? Who knows, but before I go in to have

them

> > get me another pair, I thought I should ask here before we pay

that

> > price. After paying for Kris to go into OR (3 times) for his re-

casting,

> > we are a little tight on funds (cost came out to be about

18,000.00, ins.

> > covered most, but we have to pay about 4,000.00 or so, that is

just the

> > est. cost.). But if there are none we will find a way as we have

all this

> > time:) His feet are doing fine, but the frt toe's are turning in

again,

> > because he has this habit of curling the big toe's under all the

time!

> >Please let me know, and paying for shipping or anything else is

not a

> >problem. Still cheaper then getting the shoes here:)

> >He is wearing the DBB shoes that look just like with the

adj. red

> >bar and the shoes have straps and laces exactly the same as

> >pictures:) He is now in a size 4? but his toes are hanging out the

frt

> >already, and he has been getting fussy and waking up at nights. I

am

> >thinking it's because he is not comfortable with the shoes. He has

not

> >complained about them or woke up at nights for a very long time.

The bar

> >is adj. to his shoulder length, and can not be moved any more, it

has

> >reached it's limit. There is a mom here that will be needing

these shoes

> >for her son soon, and was going to donate them to her, because

they too

> >have a hard time paying for shoes:) It feels so good to know your

helping

> >a mom this way:)

> >anyhow, please let me know:) I would much appreciate it:) And put

them to

> >good use. also will pass them on to any needed mother when we are

> >outgrowing these also:)!

> >My doctor has asked me to be in charge of putting together a

support group

> >here for moms & dads:) that are just starting out. there is no

place for

> >them to turn to or anyone to talk to about there everyday

challenges. I

> >have been thinking this would be a great way to give back, and

told him I

> >would try and help if I could. Are there any support groups out

there? He

> >will also spend time to come and talk to and answer any questions

there

> >might be. It would help him a lot due to the calls on things that

are not

> >medically related, and they just do not know where else to turn:)

> >Sorry so long:)

> >Aloha Carole

> >Mom to Kristopher 6-11-02 Bilateral CF Ponseti since 7 weeks

casted twice,

> >and still pressing on!!!:)

> >

> >

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I'm sure our local supplier of shoes here in Arlington, Virginia

would send you a $60 pair of shoes to Hawaii. I asked him previously

about sending shoes to people, and he said sure! He couldn't believe

that anyone was charging more than what he was charging. He really

felt that those suppliers were taking advantage of the customers,

especially if the insurance company wasn't paying for the shoes.

Contact Doc Friedman at publicshoe@.... They've been in business

at least 30 years. He was the one who educated us on how the shoes

and bar worked. I did notice that the newer model shoes were a few

dollars more, but I also think as the shoes got bigger, the price

went up a few dollars. Her first pair of 000s were about $55. I think

I paid $65 for the size 8s...

Since we will hopefully be needing the shoes again if we're able to

successfully adopt a child with clubfoot, I need to hang on to ours

for the time being, otherwise I would gladly send them to you...

Hope this helps.

Joanne W. mom to " big " Zoe, 3-25-01, right clubfoot

www.geocities.com/joannewalton2003/clubfootstory.html

>

> Hello all:)

>

> I am getting ready to have Kris move into a bigger shoe size and

was wondering before we purchase another pair, if anyone has a pair

that are a size 5 that they no longer need? Here in Hawaii, the shoes

cost way more then what you guys are paying. they run about $400,00

or so. I think that's because of shipping? Who knows, but before I go

in to have them get me another pair, I thought I should ask here

before we pay that price. After paying for Kris to go into OR (3

times) for his re-casting, we are a little tight on funds (cost came

out to be about 18,000.00, ins. covered most, but we have to pay

about 4,000.00 or so, that is just the est. cost.). But if there are

none we will find a way as we have all this time:) His feet are doing

fine, but the frt toe's are turning in again, because he has this

habit of curling the big toe's under all the time!

> Please let me know, and paying for shipping or anything else is

not a problem. Still cheaper then getting the shoes here:)

> He is wearing the DBB shoes that look just like with the

adj. red bar and the shoes have straps and laces exactly the same as

pictures:) He is now in a size 4? but his toes are hanging

out the frt already, and he has been getting fussy and waking up at

nights. I am thinking it's because he is not comfortable with the

shoes. He has not complained about them or woke up at nights for a

very long time. The bar is adj. to his shoulder length, and can not

be moved any more, it has reached it's limit. There is a mom here

that will be needing these shoes for her son soon, and was going to

donate them to her, because they too have a hard time paying for

shoes:) It feels so good to know your helping a mom this way:)

> anyhow, please let me know:) I would much appreciate it:) And put

them to good use. also will pass them on to any needed mother when we

are outgrowing these also:)!

> My doctor has asked me to be in charge of putting together a

support group here for moms & dads:) that are just starting out.

there is no place for them to turn to or anyone to talk to about

there everyday challenges. I have been thinking this would be a great

way to give back, and told him I would try and help if I could. Are

there any support groups out there? He will also spend time to come

and talk to and answer any questions there might be. It would help

him a lot due to the calls on things that are not medically related,

and they just do not know where else to turn:)

> Sorry so long:)

> Aloha Carole

> Mom to Kristopher 6-11-02 Bilateral CF Ponseti since 7 weeks casted

twice, and still pressing on!!!:)

>

>

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