Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Has anyone had any experience using this on their child. It was just recommended for mine. contraindications? Phyllis M. Kizner PMRSKizner@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Dear Phyllis, Both of my kids weigh around 60 lbs +/- a few pounds. Pfeiffer Treatment Center recommended DMAE 50 mg/day in the morning for both of them. I give it 17 days on/7 days off (see post below). I'm not sure what is helping my autistic son...he has had good gains from many things, and DMAE is part of his program. But we saw a DRAMATIC change in my 8 year-old, metals issues, attention problem son when we started DMAE. He gets his homework done in 20 minutes vs. 2 hours now. My husband thought it was just " maturation, " but it happened almost immediately... I have been reading Pfeiffer's books, and he actually introduced DMAE in 1957 and patented it as a biochemical stimulant under the name Deaner(generic name Deanol). It was used as an anti-anxiety agent and as asubstitute for drug stimulants in the treatment of hyperactive children. He lists these benefits: 1. DMAE doesn't have the immediate effect of a strong drug but rather theslow effect of a biochemical, so the maximum beneficial impact may not beseen until after several weeks of therapy. 2. Side effects will occur unless the Deanol dose is reduced by 1/2 as soonas maximal beneficial effects are found 3. About 25% of patients do not respond to deanol therapy, and 10% may haveincreased emotional outbursts with deanol. 4. There is no simple biochemical test that will indicate who will respond. Animal studies showed: 1. Increased speed of learning both avoidance conditioning and maze running 2. Brain stimulation showed more rapid passge to the brain than choline,increases of up to 60% in brain acetylcholine, the working neurotransmitterof the brain, blocking of amphetamine toxicity, and increases in toleranceto alcohol and barbituates in mice. Six double blind studies were done in behavioral disorders in children.Only one showed no significant effect. Numerous studies showed 45-70%behavioral improvement. Occasionally a child may speak for the first timeon DMAE. Deanol has no side effects such as lack of appetite, insomnia, and weightloss found in Ritalin. 100 mg is found to prevent mind racing and hypomania in paranoidschizophrenia. Pfeiffer was at Princeton when he did this research. I can only wonder why DMAE/Deanol isn't used more...Someday maybe I'll have time to research " the rest of the story... FYI, I was reading Balch & Balch's Prescription for Nutritional Healing, and they said that DMAE isn't so much for long term, regular use but rather for times when you need extra focus. Interestingly, we had talked to Dr. Walsh about it at a DAN conference and he said that 17 days was the optimum time to take it...then the body stopped using it (or something...wish I could remember)....We use this 17 days on, 7 days off schedule and it seems to work for my kids. Pfeiffer Treatment Center doesn't always agree with Dr. Walsh, and they recommended daily dosing, but biochemists' knowledge always trumps M.D.'s when it comes to supplementation (for us). , mom to and Re: [ ] ReDMAE Has anyone had any experience using this on their child. It was just recommended for mine. contraindications? Phyllis M. Kizner PMRSKizner@... ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 , thanks for the info on the DMAE. Do you know anyone where it would be contrindicated in chilren with seratonin issues? Phyllis M. Kizner PMRSKizner@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Dear Phyllis, I don't know the answer to your question and don't remember seeing anything about it. It is a product that is recommended for kids with normal or low methylation, as the " M " stands for methyl...I'm not good at remembering things like how methylation and seratonin are related... Let me know if you learn anything...I am starting to organize my information and would love to know any contraindications. Thank you, , mom to and Re: [ ] ReDMAE , thanks for the info on the DMAE. Do you know anyone where it would be contrindicated in chilren with seratonin issues? Phyllis M. Kizner PMRSKizner@... ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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