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Hi Patty,

I am not Andy, but my son is doing great on Armour. He is 8. We stopped

chelating over the summer to see what the armour alone would do. His recent

hair test showed remarkable improvement despite the fact we stopped

chelating. I have no doubt proper thyroid functioning is necessary to

everything your body tries to do, including chelating or detoxification of

any kind. It is amazing your doc wants to use cortef. I use that for myself,

and it has helped tremendously, It is hard enough to get a doc to prescribe

it for an adult, but a child is unheard of. My son has many adrenals issues

too, and the thyroid has helped. In fact his hair showed the pattern of

adrenal dysfunction before, and now with the armour, it is not present.

Good luck, I think you are on the right track,

nne

We just saw a new nutritionist who indicated from hair test results that my

son is not producing T4 to convert to T3 and recommended Armour Thyroid, as

well as Cortef to address cortisol issue. We are following your chelation

protocol with ALA. I read the pages in your book about thyroid, and the

role of mercury, but I'd really appreciate your input as to the following:

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Hi, nne...

What is the hair pattern that indicates a problem with the adrenal

glands? My son (age 17) has recently completed a cortef test, with

results indicating he doesn't need cortef supplementation, and is now

doing a thyroid trial.

Thanks!

Jan

> Hi Patty,

>

> I am not Andy, but my son is doing great on Armour. He is 8. We

stopped

> chelating over the summer to see what the armour alone would do.

His recent

> hair test showed remarkable improvement despite the fact we stopped

> chelating. I have no doubt proper thyroid functioning is necessary

to

> everything your body tries to do, including chelating or

detoxification of

> any kind. It is amazing your doc wants to use cortef. I use that

for myself,

> and it has helped tremendously, It is hard enough to get a doc to

prescribe

> it for an adult, but a child is unheard of. My son has many

adrenals issues

> too, and the thyroid has helped. In fact his hair showed the

pattern of

> adrenal dysfunction before, and now with the armour, it is not

present.

>

> Good luck, I think you are on the right track,

>

> nne

>

>

>

>

> We just saw a new nutritionist who indicated from hair test results

that my

> son is not producing T4 to convert to T3 and recommended Armour

Thyroid, as

> well as Cortef to address cortisol issue. We are following your

chelation

> protocol with ALA. I read the pages in your book about thyroid,

and the

> role of mercury, but I'd really appreciate your input as to the

following:

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Jan,

It was the sodium and potassium very high, and calcium & magnesium very low.

nne

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Subject: [ ] Re: ANDY-Low thyroid treatment-please advise

Hi, nne...

What is the hair pattern that indicates a problem with the adrenal

glands? My son (age 17) has recently completed a cortef test, with

results indicating he doesn't need cortef supplementation, and is now

doing a thyroid trial.

Thanks!

Jan

> Hi Patty,

>

> I am not Andy, but my son is doing great on Armour. He is 8. We

stopped

> chelating over the summer to see what the armour alone would do.

His recent

> hair test showed remarkable improvement despite the fact we stopped

> chelating. I have no doubt proper thyroid functioning is necessary

to

> everything your body tries to do, including chelating or

detoxification of

> any kind. It is amazing your doc wants to use cortef. I use that

for myself,

> and it has helped tremendously, It is hard enough to get a doc to

prescribe

> it for an adult, but a child is unheard of. My son has many

adrenals issues

> too, and the thyroid has helped. In fact his hair showed the

pattern of

> adrenal dysfunction before, and now with the armour, it is not

present.

>

> Good luck, I think you are on the right track,

>

> nne

>

>

>

>

> We just saw a new nutritionist who indicated from hair test results

that my

> son is not producing T4 to convert to T3 and recommended Armour

Thyroid, as

> well as Cortef to address cortisol issue. We are following your

chelation

> protocol with ALA. I read the pages in your book about thyroid,

and the

> role of mercury, but I'd really appreciate your input as to the

following:

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Hi Andy,

>

> We just saw a new nutritionist who indicated from hair test results that my

son is not producing T4 to convert to T3

I don't know how to pick this up from hair test reuslts. I would

really like an explanation since I am quite skeptical. I think some

signs can SUGGEST THE POSSIBILIBY OF THYROID PROBLEMS, but not in great

detail, or with great certainty.

>and recommended Armour Thyroid,

Which is not relevant to the conversion of T4 to T3. However if you

are going to use thyroid it is the best choice if he is simply low.

I'd really want to see a complete thyroid panel if I were you, free T3,

free T4, T3, T4, TSH before doing this, and probably try some kind of

thyroid herbs containing selenium first as well unless the tests were

very messed up.

Also read the signs and symptoms of low thyroid, e. g. in Amalgam

Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment, and consider whether it seems

reasonable he is low.

>as well as Cortef

I'd certainly try all other forms of adrenal support before using much

cortef in a child. If used, 5-10 mg a day MAX for long term use, but

try lots of adrenal cortex extract and licorice/herbs first.

> to address cortisol issue. We are following your chelation protocol with ALA.

I read the pages in your book about thyroid, and the role of mercury, but I'd

really appreciate your input as to the following:

>

> 1) Knowing that mercury is playing a role here and we are chelating, is this

something you feel strongly about being addressed...are there ever situations

where you suggest we do not add the thyroid hormone (knowing the prob. will

exist while the metals are present)?

Despite the caveats above I would err on the side of using too much

thyroid or using it inappropriately in a child because the risks of

being mildly too high are mostly relevant to adults, while the risks of

being mildly too low are profound for a child. Even mainstream

medicine realizes this for infants.

> 2) What dosage and any problems to watch out for with the addition of the

hormone, and the cortef?

> He is 9 years old and weighs just 53 lbs.

This is quite consistent with thyroid too low.

> Incidentally, it was wonderful to have a professional who " got it " in terms of

chelation. We have recently left our current neurotoxicologist as she

encouraged me to stop chelating (thinking he had " improved enough " ) and she kept

telling me that " the damage was done and permanent " in terms of neuron activity.

MD medicine is a human sacrificing religion. There is no other

reasonable way to view statements like this, based on dogma that is

contrary to all scientific understanding and directed at preventing

people from getting well. Your son is quite lucky that you are not

well enough indoctrinated into the cult to go glassy eyed and offer him

up as a sacrifice when asked to do so.

> He continues to improve with every round. Now I need to find someone to write

a script :)

Shop around.

An advantage of thyroid support herbs is they are OTC.

Hydrocortizone cream is also OTC, and about 10% of what you put on does

get absorbed.

> Thanks, Andy!

>

> Sincerely,

> Patty

>

>

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