Tapering off dosage to lessen reaction---Andy, Moria, or anyone!!!

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I have been trying to find the “perfect” dosage of DMSA and ALA to not

get reactions with

my daughter. If I dose her every three hours faithfully, including

nightime, I minimize the

self-injurious behaviors, but if we do a four hour dose, we always get a

huge blow up

at the end of the fourth hour, except if it’s at night, and then we have

behaviors first thing

in the morning, even if she’s had a dose of chelation. And we always

have a huge blow-

up after the last dose, and sometimes another blow-up later in the day.

I am mixing the DMSA and ALA in water, then giving it to her with a

syringe. Her dosage

now is 1/8 mg. ALA per lb., ¼ mg. DMSA per lb. Two weekends ago I

tried taper off

and it seemed to help a lot. The last half of the last day I added more

water to the last

batch I mixed so she was actually getting half of the above dosage, and

we didn’t get

any SIBs.

Also, we just got tests back that show her metallathionine function is

normal, something

our DAN doctor said he hadn’t seen in any autistic child he had tested

thus far, but I still

feel she has mercury in her brain because of exposure in-utero and

excessive exposure

when I had my amalgam fillings out when I was still breastfeeding her,

so that’s why

I am using ALA with DMSA. Urine testing with DMSA alone showed very

little in metals

coming out.

I am planning on doing hair analysis and urine after we do two more

rounds.

Thanks.

Marina

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Marina,

I don't know if this will be any help, but we do just DMSA for the last two

doses to " mop up " remaining mercury.

Barb

[ ] Tapering off dosage to lessen reaction---Andy,

Moria, or anyone!!!

I have been trying to find the " perfect " dosage of DMSA and ALA to not

get reactions with

my daughter. If I dose her every three hours faithfully, including

nightime, I minimize the

self-injurious behaviors, but if we do a four hour dose, we always get a

huge blow up

at the end of the fourth hour, except if it's at night, and then we have

behaviors first thing

in the morning, even if she's had a dose of chelation. And we always

have a huge blow-

up after the last dose, and sometimes another blow-up later in the day.

I am mixing the DMSA and ALA in water, then giving it to her with a

syringe. Her dosage

now is 1/8 mg. ALA per lb., ¼ mg. DMSA per lb. Two weekends ago I

tried taper off

and it seemed to help a lot. The last half of the last day I added more

water to the last

batch I mixed so she was actually getting half of the above dosage, and

we didn't get

any SIBs.

Also, we just got tests back that show her metallathionine function is

normal, something

our DAN doctor said he hadn't seen in any autistic child he had tested

thus far, but I still

feel she has mercury in her brain because of exposure in-utero and

excessive exposure

when I had my amalgam fillings out when I was still breastfeeding her,

so that's why

I am using ALA with DMSA. Urine testing with DMSA alone showed very

little in metals

coming out.

I am planning on doing hair analysis and urine after we do two more

rounds.

Thanks.

Marina

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We have had better results increasing the ALA when our son did not do

that well on it instead of reducing the dosage. My theory is the

higher dose keeps the mercury from re-settling and gets it out of the

body. Your dose is small, so you can try doubling that for your next

cycle.

> I have been trying to find the " perfect " dosage of DMSA and ALA to

not

> get reactions with

> my daughter. If I dose her every three hours faithfully, including

> nightime, I minimize the

> self-injurious behaviors, but if we do a four hour dose, we always

get a

> huge blow up

> at the end of the fourth hour, except if it's at night, and then we

have

> behaviors first thing

> in the morning, even if she's had a dose of chelation. And we

always

> have a huge blow-

> up after the last dose, and sometimes another blow-up later in the

day.

>

>

> I am mixing the DMSA and ALA in water, then giving it to her with a

> syringe. Her dosage

> now is 1/8 mg. ALA per lb., ¼ mg. DMSA per lb. Two weekends ago I

> tried taper off

> and it seemed to help a lot. The last half of the last day I added

more

> water to the last

> batch I mixed so she was actually getting half of the above dosage,

and

> we didn't get

> any SIBs.

>

> Also, we just got tests back that show her metallathionine function

is

> normal, something

> our DAN doctor said he hadn't seen in any autistic child he had

tested

> thus far, but I still

> feel she has mercury in her brain because of exposure in-utero and

> excessive exposure

> when I had my amalgam fillings out when I was still breastfeeding

her,

> so that's why

> I am using ALA with DMSA. Urine testing with DMSA alone showed

very

> little in metals

> coming out.

>

> I am planning on doing hair analysis and urine after we do two more

> rounds.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Marina

>

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> I have been trying to find the " perfect " dosage of DMSA and ALA to

not

> get reactions with

> my daughter. If I dose her every three hours faithfully, including

> nightime, I minimize the

> self-injurious behaviors, but if we do a four hour dose, we always

get a

> huge blow up

> at the end of the fourth hour, except if it's at night, and then

we have

> behaviors first thing

> in the morning,

I would suggest that you try doing THREE hours at night

if you can find any way to do so (and yes I do realize

why this may be a lot harder). Seems to me your little

one is sensitive to the " late " dose. (4 hours at night

actually IS a " late " dose.)

> even if she's had a dose of chelation. And we always

> have a huge blow-

> up after the last dose, and sometimes another blow-up later in the

day.

>

>

> I am mixing the DMSA and ALA in water, then giving it to her with a

> syringe. Her dosage

> now is 1/8 mg. ALA per lb., ¼ mg. DMSA per lb. Two weekends ago I

> tried taper off

> and it seemed to help a lot. The last half of the last day I

added more

> water to the last

> batch I mixed so she was actually getting half of the above

dosage, and

> we didn't get

> any SIBs.

good-- seems like a good thing to continue with this!

(or use DMSA only for last dose or two, as Barb suggests.....)

>

> Also, we just got tests back that show her metallathionine

function is

> normal, something

> our DAN doctor said he hadn't seen in any autistic child he had

tested

> thus far, but I still

> feel she has mercury in her brain because of exposure in-utero and

> excessive exposure

> when I had my amalgam fillings out when I was still breastfeeding

her,

> so that's why

> I am using ALA with DMSA.

I think it is likely she is mercury toxic because she is having

such clear reaction to chelation.

> Urine testing with DMSA alone showed very

> little in metals

> coming out.

>

> I am planning on doing hair analysis and urine after we do two more

> rounds.

okay, but it generally doesn't seem to tell much about

mercury. Mineral transport being normal or abnormal

(either way) is not very meaningful if you have been

chelating for a while. Although the " other " toxic

metals can be useful.

good wishes,

Moria