Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Unfortunately, my son is not one that was helped with chelation. I believe we did that for about 3 years...nothing much to note. I am at a loss about that one because he did show higher levels of some metals....dont know...dont think I ever will. As a matter of fact, nothing really has helped my son. No specific therapy has shown much of anything in him to warrant staying on it. His schooling just about the only thing. This has made me now extremely choosy about what I give him. I am not just willing to try things anymore and pump him full of stuff..we've been there and done that with nothing to show for it. As much as these kids are called mysteries, my son has always been called a mystery in comparison to other children under his particular doctor's care, because they are helped by different things and my son has not been helped by anything. As of late we are trying the vitamin B6 and folic acid shots for a specific gene mutation that affects cysteine...this is something that I see small improvements in him with, especially helping his mood. Maybe once or twice a week with no pattern to it, he would have an unexplained crying fit that lasted about 20 minutes or so and would hold his belly. This was believed to be from stomach pain from colitis. The crying has stopped and his stools are more formed and less stinky. These shots too I think have helped with the understanding of toilet training and he is improving nicely with this one step at a time. Hopefully, we are onto something with this one. Its hard to explain, and I dont mean to offend by saying this, but my son is as much of a normal autistic kid as a child could be. Its like he's a typical kid but autistic, I dont know how to explain. He's a well behaved boy, not self injurious and never has been, smiling and in a good mood mostly all the time, yet definitely has an opinion about what he wants, listens to commands and can do a few things for himself. You smile at him, he smiles back. He's calm and sits and eats nicely, just an absolute doll and a beautiful boy. He's worked hard to be here. However Sal is categorized moderate autism and is nonverbal and not toilet trained. Anyone else have this experience with chelation or the gene mutation for cysteine breakdown? Mom to Salvatore-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 My goodness...if my son spoke about " anything " let alone the stuff you said..forget it...I would fall to the ground. That's so exciting. I hope each and everyday of his life that this can happen for him. I even dreamed the other night that he started talking, I heard his voice and everything. It was raspy. He gradually started talking but by a few days he was almost talking normally. What a wonderful dream. The doctor was giving Sal 1 mg per week of the methyl stuff (that name it too long). Then I started to give it to him at home 2x per week to equal that full 1 mg dose. I did not like this and found it for some reason to be less effective. I changed it back to 1 mg., it seems to work better for some reason. Chelating as I said just didnt help Sal. When I first started the shots I heard Sal actually say a few words, which he hasnt done in a LONG time. Right now he is off the meds just to see if they really helped him. He will be returning back on them within the next week or so. About Dr. Vinitsky, I dont know about this person. Can you fill me in? Thanks. ________________________________________________________ CHristine, Our son reacted just 1 hour after the very first administration of ALA and DMSA. He began to talk about his grandfather who had died about 1 year prior. This was so unusual that my husband and I were stunned. Days following showed him with increased language - noticing things that he had never noticed and commented on before, and playing with toys that had been untouched for years. This was the same for high dosage/pulse prednisone....like a switch that turned on language and caused him to be very cooperative. Gut bugs and inability to get a prescription for further Chemet (DMSA) stopped the chelation after 1 1/2 years and prednisone was stopped after approx 1 year because of it's terrible side effects. We have been doing methycobalamin injections (with very little other methylation vitamin additions) twice a week. We haven't seen much improvement except on the day he receives the injection. He becomes happier and talks a little more. We wonder if it was given every other day - would it be more effective?....Do you see this? Our son gets 0.18ML of methycob. every 3 days (filled by Hopewell Pharmacy). I also am evaluating the method used by Dr. Vinitsky who uses 1 drop of folic acid (5mg/drop Scientific Botanicals) dripped on 1 tablet of 2 mg hydroxocobalamin (Perque) and placed under the tongue till dissolved. Do you know which method is working for autistic children????? Thanks! - Aly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 , What other things have you tried for your son? I am not able to remember any introduction you did about your son and what level of autism he is at. I had great success with some other things if you might be interested let me know. Bonnie , Luke and s mom.casti71@... wrote: My goodness...if my son spoke about " anything " let alone the stuff you said..forget it...I would fall to the ground. That's so exciting. I hope each and everyday of his life that this can happen for him. I even dreamed the other night that he started talking, I heard his voice and everything. It was raspy. He gradually started talking but by a few days he was almost talking normally. What a wonderful dream. The doctor was giving Sal 1 mg per week of the methyl stuff (that name it too long). Then I started to give it to him at home 2x per week to equal that full 1 mg dose. I did not like this and found it for some reason to be less effective. I changed it back to 1 mg., it seems to work better for some reason. Chelating as I said just didn't help Sal. When I first started the shots I heard Sal actually say a few words, which he hasn't done in a LONG time. Right now he is off the meds just to see if they really helped him. He will be returning back on them within the next week or so. About Dr. Vinitsky, I dont know about this person. Can you fill me in? Thanks. ________________________________________________________ CHristine, Our son reacted just 1 hour after the very first administration of ALA and DMSA. He began to talk about his grandfather who had died about 1 year prior. This was so unusual that my husband and I were stunned. Days following showed him with increased language - noticing things that he had never noticed and commented on before, and playing with toys that had been untouched for years. This was the same for high dosage/pulse prednisone....like a switch that turned on language and caused him to be very cooperative. Gut bugs and inability to get a prescription for further Chemet (DMSA) stopped the chelation after 1 1/2 years and prednisone was stopped after approx 1 year because of it's terrible side effects. We have been doing methycobalamin injections (with very little other methylation vitamin additions) twice a week. We haven't seen much improvement except on the day he receives the injection. He becomes happier and talks a little more. We wonder if it was given every other day - would it be more effective?....Do you see this? Our son gets 0.18ML of methycob. every 3 days (filled by Hopewell Pharmacy). I also am evaluating the method used by Dr. Vinitsky who uses 1 drop of folic acid (5mg/drop Scientific Botanicals) dripped on 1 tablet of 2 mg hydroxocobalamin (Perque) and placed under the tongue till dissolved. Do you know which method is working for autistic children????? Thanks! - Aly ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Hi, I've been a member of this list for many years now, so I havent introduced myself lately. I dont write too often though,every now and then. I cant even begin to say all the things I've tried with my son. It seems like the list is endless. He's always been under a DAN doctors care and doing their protocols, with vit's and supps, shots, allergies, foods, genetics, forget it, I cant even remember everything. Salvatore is 8. He has moderate autism. As I've said, I dont have a lot of issues with Sal to control BUT he doesnt have language. Nothing has ever did any good for him. If he had any improvement it never stayed even with the therapy and it made us wonder whether it was an improvement at all. He has made improvements really from schooling. This I have to say has been the best for him compared to any sort of medication/supplement/dietary changes, and so on. Salvatore takes allergy medication daily and he goes to a terrific school and that's basically it.I was doing the Methyl....shots with B12 and folic acid. I believe there is improvements in Sal with that and I will start them again soon. _______________________________________________________ , What other things have you tried for your son? I am not able to remember any introduction you did about your son and what level of autism he is at. I had great success with some other things if you might be interested let me know. Bonnie , Luke and s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 Have you had viral titer panels checked?How old is this sweetie? ______________________________________________________________ Titre panels for?? I dont even remember anymore. I did for his MMR, that stands out in my memory. Sal's were high. He is 8 years old now. I've been doing stuff with him since he was 2 years old. Therapies and anything else we could try for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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