Re: Chelation and Supplements

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

> My son is 26 mos. and we are considering chelation. What is the

best

> overall supplement during chelation?

I don't know, and I doubt that there is one that has all the

stuff you need. You can read about supplements to use with

chelation, here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ANDY_INDEX.html#supplements

The first several items in this section are about supplements

to use for chelation. However it is not about brands or

combination formulas (sorry).

good wishes,

Moria

> He doesn't swallow pills well, but tolerates most crushed and

> mixed with food.

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi, i am new to this group . I have a

> > question regarding chelation

> > today. We startet oral chelation 2 weeks ago. The doctor

> > subscribed

> > supposotories.

Oral means " by mouth " . Suppositories are rectal.

> > Our DAN doc also recommendet a diff. multivitamin, we had SNT

> > and he

> > gave us Klaire Labs Multivitamin. We also had to add

> > Multiminerals

> > due to the Chelation. He recomendet Klaire Minerals.

> > Well here's the situation. Since we startet all three things,

> > Nicky

> > is

> > back into stimming. Rolling his eyes, shaking his head. He can

> > not

> > make a walk any longer, because of the stimming.

Drop the new things, put back the old ones. Then, add the new things

one at a time, to determine which one/s he did not tolerate.

It is possible those issues are related to yeast, so you might also

consider increasing the yeast protocol.

> > Mother of Nicolas 5 PDD-NOS non-verbal, low muscle tone

For low muscle tone, try adding carnitine.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hello to all and thanks for all your input. I have to apologize

> that it took me so long to post again. But I was stunned, shocked

and worried after I read everything. >

>

> First I have to add that we do a lot more than what I posted. I

> thought it

> might be not of interest in this manner.

>

>

>

> Nicky is GF/CF and we give him also Klaires Pobiodics, Kirkmans

> Calciumw/Magnesium 2x1tsp, DMG w/folic acid 2x1tsp, Omega3 Fish

> oil, Flaxseed,

> Biocidin, 1 tabl. Folic acid. He also gets once a day some

gluthatione

> lotion on his legs or arms.

>

>

>

> After receiving all your great postings I started to think and

> to read more.

>

>

> I trust our DAN doctor, but YES he is selling most of the stuff

> out of his

> office.

>

>

>

> I am still confused but I have my tendency now on the

> Cutler Protocol,

> witch seems easier for our son. I believe that the stimming is a

> result of

> the chelation.

>

>

>

> I have a couple questions: When I read every 4 hours, does that

really

> include nights? Do you wake your kids for that?

>

>

>

> What minerals do you give what multivitamins?

>

> Where can I order the DMSA?

>

>

>

> We are in middle of the second round for the suppositories. We

> couldn't get

> a hold on our DAN doc and where not able to make a decision

> alone so fast.

> But after a long talk between my husband and me we decided to go

> with the

> Cutler protocol.

>

>

>

> Thanks again to everybody, I am very grateful to have found you

>

> Karin

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello to all and thanks for all your input. I have to apologize

> > that it took me so long to post again. But I was stunned, shocked

> and worried after I read everything. >

This whole thing is pretty scary. We all understand that. But it is

important to try to make good decisions, which it seems you are

trying to do....

> >

> > First I have to add that we do a lot more than what I posted. I

> > thought it

> > might be not of interest in this manner.

> >

> >

> >

> > Nicky is GF/CF and we give him also Klaires Pobiodics, Kirkmans

> > Calciumw/Magnesium 2x1tsp, DMG w/folic acid 2x1tsp, Omega3 Fish

> > oil, Flaxseed,

> > Biocidin, 1 tabl. Folic acid. He also gets once a day some

> gluthatione

> > lotion on his legs or arms.

Andy doesn't agree that supplementing with glutathione is a good

idea. He says that vitamins C and E will recycle the glutathione

that is available, and as the metals leave, glutathione levels will

rise. Some kids do not tolerate the glutathione well. As for the

other stuff, do you know what each is doing and how your son is

reacting to them individually?

> >

> >

> >

> > After receiving all your great postings I started to think and

> > to read more.

> >

> >

> > I trust our DAN doctor, but YES he is selling most of the stuff

> > out of his

> > office.

I can't speak for others, but I don't really trust any doctors

anymore.....

> >

> >

> > I am still confused but I have my tendency now on the

> > Cutler Protocol,

> > witch seems easier for our son. I believe that the stimming is a

> > result of

> > the chelation.

Improper chelation can have very devastating effects. If you think

you are seeing bad things from the suppositories, you are very likely

right. I wouldn't do that any more.

> >

> >

> >

> > I have a couple questions: When I read every 4 hours, does that

> really

> > include nights? Do you wake your kids for that?

Yes, every four hours for DMSA, every three for ALA, every eight for

DMPS. If you use ALA with either DMSA or DMPS, you do well to dose

the DMSA every three as well, and the DMPS every three or eight.

> >

> >

> >

> > What minerals do you give what multivitamins?

I use Minerall, which is available through Kirkman, and then add on

to that as needed (mag, zinc, calcium, etc.)

> >

> > Where can I order the DMSA?

> >

> >

www.vrp.com.

> >

> > We are in middle of the second round for the suppositories. We

> > couldn't get

> > a hold on our DAN doc and where not able to make a decision

> > alone so fast.

> > But after a long talk between my husband and me we decided to go

> > with the

> > Cutler protocol.

I think that is wise. Again, if you think the suppositories are part

of the problem, then don't do any more.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks again to everybody, I am very grateful to have found you

> >

> > Karin

Good luck!

Anne

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