Re: PLEASE: GFCG nec'y with chelation?

[Guest guest]

Janet,

My son has never been gfcf.We did do the Ketogenic diet which is high

fat,high protein for a short time. I tried taking him off milk and it did

nothing. All the tests indicate no allergy.We also didn't have yeast

problems but bacteria problems(the buggers mutate)no pun intended.

R

[Guest guest]

> Hello,

>

> My son Adam is 8yrs old (Dx ADHD/Asperger's)and was GFCF from mid-

> Nov '03 until the end of June. We were practically fanatical about

> it so I doubt that he ate anything containing gluten or casein during

> that time. We saw no change in his behavior.

>

> We began chelation in late March of this year and have done nine

> rounds -- the first was DMSA 35mg only every 4 hrs, #2-8 were DMSA

> 35mg/ALA 16.5mg every 3 hrs, #9 was ALA 16.5mg only. Any improvement

> made has occured after starting chelation. All rounds were 3 days

> on/11 off.

>

> The labs of last Oct found none of the markers they look for to

> indicate gluten or casein intolerance. Yeast seems much more of a

> factor in his behavior.

>

> Can I take him off the diet?

Yes.

The GFCF diet is not necessary for chelation, most people who got well

chelating that I know of were not on it.

My suggestion is to do a controlled reintroduction of gluten and casein

at separate times as the final trial that it is OK. Introduce it at

one meal with a few " clean " meals afterwards, if no problem, then just

reintroduce it and see what happens. First one, then the other. You

may wish to have plasma cysteine (and sulfate if you want to)

determined since GFCF is also lower in thiols and their precursors -

which make cysteine - and if this is funky then there may be effects,

good or bad, on putting dairy back in the diet.

> Do people ever do 3 days on/4 off when using DMSA and ALA?

Yes.

> Would that be too hard on the liver?

No. But it might be hard on him otherwise. Try it and see if he

tolerates it.

> Would a 3/4 schedule alternating DMSA/ALA with ALA alone be better?

No.

> I appreciate your thoughts!!

>

> Many thanks in advance,

> Janet

[Guest guest]

> My son Adam is 8yrs old (Dx ADHD/Asperger's)and was GFCF from mid-

> Nov '03 until the end of June. We were practically fanatical about

> it so I doubt that he ate anything containing gluten or casein during

> that time. We saw no change in his behavior.

My son had " slight " change in behaviors with gfcf. After much

experimentation, I discovered he tolerated basically no foods. I used

HNI enzymes and then rotated foods to find which ones he did not

tolerate with enzymes. He needed a different diet entirely.

ALA chelation has removed all of his food issues.

> Can I take him off the diet?

My son lost his food issues at round 50, and I removed the enzymes.

He still needed certain foods removed tho, until about round 70. But

yes, it is possible he might not have problems with gluten/casein any

more. You can try re-introducing them one at a time.

> Do people ever do 3 days on/4 off when using DMSA and ALA?

I did 3/4 with ALA only.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Hello,

>

> My son Adam is 8yrs old (Dx ADHD/Asperger's)and was GFCF from mid-

> Nov '03 until the end of June. We were practically fanatical

about

> it so I doubt that he ate anything containing gluten or casein

during

> that time. We saw no change in his behavior.

>

> We began chelation in late March of this year and have done nine

> rounds -- the first was DMSA 35mg only every 4 hrs, #2-8 were DMSA

> 35mg/ALA 16.5mg every 3 hrs, #9 was ALA 16.5mg only. Any

improvement

> made has occured after starting chelation. All rounds were 3 days

> on/11 off.

>

> The labs of last Oct found none of the markers they look for to

> indicate gluten or casein intolerance. Yeast seems much more of a

> factor in his behavior.

>

> Can I take him off the diet?

up to you of course. Since you say there is no change in

his behaviour, I would have a hard time continuing it I think.

(Too much work if there is no change.)

> Do people ever do 3 days on/4 off when using DMSA and ALA?

yes, people do.

> Would that be too hard on the liver?

probably not, at the doseages you are talking about.

Pay attention though, of course, to see if this schedule seems

okay for all. Also, you may find there are some weeks you

need to skip for one reason or another, so if you TRY for

every weekend, it may really be more like 2/3 or 1/2 of

the time--- at least that is what happened to me.

> Would a 3/4 schedule alternating DMSA/ALA with ALA alone be better?

either way is fine for mercury. If lead is a problem then

do use DMSA *some* of the time--- every other round would

be fine.

good wishes,

Moria