Transdermal DMPS

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Has anyone done TD-DMPS? What is the current opinion on

this? I found this post on another list. Sorry if this has already

been posted:

" AUTISM : The MISDIAGNOSIS of Our Future Generations "

I have studied and restudied my notes and slides today and then

I

looked back at this title and I was suddenly stuck by what he

really

is saying. Dr. Buttar, the Vice Chairman of the Board of Clinical

Metal Toxicology, is saying there is no such thing as Autism. He

is

going WAY beyond " Autism - a Novel Form of Mercury Poisoning "

and

saying that the hypothesis is proven and this should essentially

be

called Autistic Spectrum POISONING or just Mercury Poisoning.

Dr. Buttar spoke eloquently and passionately, giving his

personal

history and story about how he had arrived where he is today. He

had

treated Autism in the past with chelation therapy, become

depressed

by results and quit. His son subsequently diagnosed with

autism, led

him back into chelation, countless consult hours with Dr. Boyd

Haley,

a new formula, new methodology, and recovery.

He railed against the medical and dental establishments and

the

poisoning of our society and their failure to recognize it. He

presented data which showed the difference between medicine

and

science. There are 2500 studies in the National Library of

Medicine

database tying mercury to cancer, mercury to brain disease, and

mercury to heart disease, but they are in the science library or

Toxline. In the medical database the studies total 100 or 4%.

Mainstream doctors quote the lack of studies and yet they don't

even

know where to find them!

He showed a full body scan of a sheep that had placement of

203Hg

radio labeled amalgam fillings (total of 12). After 30 days, the

fillings were removed, the sheep scanned and...how can I

describe

it? Go to the www.autismone.org<http://www.autismone.org/>

page in a week or so, pull up his

slides, and see. The sheep's liver and intestines and jaw are

mercury blacked out completely. The kidneys are grayed out, with

a

scattering around the rest of the body.

The next 30 slides were compelling, even shocking. MERCURY.

Off the

scale mercury. I have never seen so much, and I've seen a lot of

labs. Dr. Buttar documented 2 adults and his own son. Each

case

study had a point and destroyed the current myths we have been

living

with - more on that later. Dr. Buttar uses weekly DMPS IV's for

adults and every-other-day TD-DMPS for children. He made the

point

clearly that most patients are complete non-excreters, will NOT

show

toxic baseline data, may very likely NOT show good challenge

data,

and may NOT show anything but tin, nickel, arsenic, and

antimony for

a few months, but then mercury will come pouring out. And it

does.

It's documented. He explained the mechanics of this process

clearly,

but I need to clear up one thing with Dr. Haley, before I attempt to

relate this explanation.

What I think this is: a NOVEL FORM of CHELATION. I am

speculating

that this presentation was a watershed event in the treatment of

ASD

disease. 19 of the first 41 patients with ASD are fully recovered

including his own son. The rest are improving steadily

(according to

Dr. Buttar). He reports that the parent reports of improvement

correlate highly to Hg levels on the labs, but not necessarily

other

metals. His oldest recovered children, to date, are twins, started

on therapy at 7 and recovered, performing at age level by 10, with

only one needing remedial mathematics. There are four doctors

collaborating in this form of treatment, all reporting similar

results. Dr. Buttar reports that many of his patients have had

extended trial of DMSA chelation, with little result, but TD-DMPS

has

proven effective for them.

What I think should happen: Doctors performing chelation of

ASD

should consult with Dr. Buttar or his colleagues, view his results

for themselves, and attempt to duplicate these results

immediately,

especially in those having difficulty with DMSA. IF these results

are duplicated / confirmed in even the earliest labwork, I believe

ASD chelation protocol should make a wholesale conversion. IF

these

results pan out, this should be considered front line / first choice

treatment. Dr. Buttar is more than willing to share his knowledge

-

he believes this is his mission in life. New doctors should be

sought from the disciplines of toxicology and environmental

medicine. They will fully understand Dr. Buttar's data and results,

although bargraph after bargraph of Hg in the red should be

compelling to anyone. I believe parents should carefully evaluate

the status of their children. There are many who may have given

up

on chelation too soon, or received a challenge that incorrectly

gave

a false negative. Dr. Buttar was especially clear about this last

point. Many will not challenge test a positive, even if HIGHLY

polluted. He almost did not chelate an adult who showed poor

challenge results, who then ended up above the Hg redline for

almost

a year.

What is no longer valid or relevant (if results are duplicated):

------- counting rules

------- DMSA challenge to determine toxicity

------- DMPS challenge to determine toxicity

------- unmonitored chelation

------- the IOM

I have no specific treatment information or dosing. I have a

contact

whose child is a patient and I will attempt to get more detail. I

heard from a few parents at the conference that HopeWell is

compounding and they are seeing good results with it. I will post

more information about chelation mechanics and chemistry

once I feel

I have a total grip on it. Between Drs. Jim , Boyd Haley,

and

Rashid Buttar, I got a pretty good earful this go around. I am

really feeling positive and hopeful about this.

Permission is given to forward this freely.

[Guest guest]

> Hi,

> Has anyone done TD-DMPS? What is the current opinion on

> this? I found this post on another list. Sorry if this has already

> been posted:

>

> " AUTISM : The MISDIAGNOSIS of Our Future Generations "

My current opinion:

1. DAN! doctors and other health care professionals are so gullible I

should stop conveying accurate information and start selling the

Brooklyn Bridge.

2. As you can find if you troll the archives, I reviewed this some time

after the conference and explained in great detail why I found it

unlikely to be accurate.

3. The most silly thing I have ever heard is that 50% oral absorption

is " poor, " and that there is any remote possibility transdermal

absorption is going to be anywhere near as good.

Andy . . . . . . .

[Guest guest]

> Hi,

> Has anyone done TD-DMPS?

From what I have heard, there are some or many people now

using it. There may be some on this list--- and I believe

there are more on the chelatingkids2 list. (I don't know

this for sure, I don't read that list--- but have heard

from multiple sources that there are many comments there

from people using TD-DMPS).

> What is the current opinion on

> this?

I'm sure there are many current opinions. I'd like to

know more, and I figure that over time I will know more.

I'm generally pretty skeptical about the dose schedule

that I've heard for the TD-DMPS (every other day I think

is what I heard.) Buttar says he has overcome the problem

of TD absorbtion (which is generally poor for DMPS). So,

this is good in that he is aware that there is a problem

to be overcome........ but the question would be whether

the the DMPS is really being absorbed. His formula (as

I've heard it) also includes other stuff (glutathione

at least, maybe other things, I don't remember) as well

as DMPS.

> I found this post on another list. Sorry if this has already

> been posted:

It has been posted (several times)--- not a problem, but if

you want to read people's comments on it, you can find them

back a month or 2 -- in the message archive.

good wishes,

Moria