Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Hello ! I am new to this website, but have already found it very valuable. Have just received hair test results for my son (age 3yrs 8mo) and desperately need some help and advice before starting chelation. Counting rules scored: 1) 11 = OK, 2) 5 = problem, 3) 11 = problem Although some of these are borderline I want to do a chelation using ALA only (which I can easily obtain in UK) but have some concerns about my son's profile as follows: 1) Very High ANTIMONY and High TIN - will these chelate out with ALA, what to do ? 2) Very Low ZINC and MANGANESE - I want to start supplementing ZINC straight away, is this a good idea or will it chelate away as fast as I try to increase ? 3) Very High SODIUM, POTASSIUM, BORON, LITHIUM - should I leave these and hope that chelation will restore better balance ? These are the results from DDI LABS, based on HAIR ELEMENTS test using head hair from the back of the head (no hair treatments used, only baby shampoo) : POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS element result ref range color ============================================= aluminum 9.4 < 8.0 yellow antimony 0.31 < 0.066 red arsenic 0.08 < 0.08 green/yellow beryllium < 0.01 < 0.02 no bar bismuth 0.026 < 0.13 green cadmium 0.023 < 0.15 green lead 0.9 < 1.0 green mercury 0.25 < 0.4 green platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no bar thallium < 0.001 < 0.01 no bar thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 no bar uranium 0.021 < 0.06 green nickel 0.21 < 0.4 green silver 0.21 < 0.20 yellow tin 0.58 < 0.3 yellow titanium 1.1 < 1.0 yellow Overall toxic representation yellow ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS element result ref range color under/over 50% ============================================================== Calcium 191 125-370 green under Magnesium 10 12-30 yellow under Sodium 280 12-90 red over Potassium 190 12-40 red over Copper 13 8-16 green over Zinc 59 100-190 red under Manganese 0.1 0.2-0.55 red under Chromium 0.31 0.26-0.50 green under Vanadium 0.045 0.03-0.10 green under Molybdenum 0.064 0.05-0.13 green under Boron 12 0.06-4.0 red over Iodine 0.82 0.25-1.3 green over Lithium 0.067 0.007-0.023 yellow over Phosphorus 203 160-250 white over Selenium 0.76 0.95-1.7 yellow under Strontium 0.48 0.16-1.0 green over Sulfur 53600 45500-53000 yellow over Barium 0.15 0.16-0.8 yellow under Cobalt 0.018 0.013-0.035 green under Iron 8.1 8.0-19 green under Germanium 0.052 0.045-0.065 green under Rubidium 0.2 0.016-0.18 yellow over Zirconium 1.6 0.04-1.0 yellow over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 > Hello ! > > I am new to this website, welcome > but have already found it very valuable. > Have just received hair test results for my son (age 3yrs 8mo) and > desperately need some help and advice before starting chelation. > > Counting rules scored: 1) 11 = OK, 2) 5 = problem, 3) 11 = problem > Although some of these are borderline I want to do a chelation using > ALA only (which I can easily obtain in UK) but have some concerns > about my son's profile as follows: > > 1) Very High ANTIMONY and High TIN - will these chelate out with ALA, > what to do ? I don't know. You can read the following which (I think) have suggestions for antimony: /files/Mercury-Autism% 20FAQ http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm I have read posts from parents who were seeing large amounts of tin in excretion tests (when chelating) but I think they were using DMSA or DMSA+ALA. Which proves nothing as to whether the tin would also leave with ALA. One option would be to use ALA for 9 months (or whatever) then do another hair test. Oh, and you can also buy DMSA in UK without a prescription IF YOU WISH: http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_buy_DMSA.html I am not suggesting that you do so. I think using just ALA is also fine. > 2) Very Low ZINC and MANGANESE - I want to start supplementing ZINC > straight away, is this a good idea or will it chelate away as fast as > I try to increase ? supplementing zinc is generally a good idea. However, I do NOT know whether the hair result means to give more. But it is good " on general principle " , esp while chelating. > 3) Very High SODIUM, POTASSIUM, BORON, LITHIUM - should I leave > these and hope that chelation will restore better balance ? Since I don't know how to interpret this stuff in hair (it is not clear to me if " high " means too much in the body or not enough / not using it, for example) --- so I don't know. However your child's calcium/magnesium/sodium/potassium are sort of (not exactly) a pattern that shows probable adrenal issues. So you could ask a doctor to test for adrenal issues. good wishes, Moria > > These are the results from DDI LABS, based on HAIR ELEMENTS test > using head hair from the back of the head (no hair treatments used, > only baby shampoo) : > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > element result ref range color > ============================================= > aluminum 9.4 < 8.0 yellow > antimony 0.31 < 0.066 red > arsenic 0.08 < 0.08 green/yellow > beryllium < 0.01 < 0.02 no bar > bismuth 0.026 < 0.13 green > cadmium 0.023 < 0.15 green > lead 0.9 < 1.0 green > mercury 0.25 < 0.4 green > platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no bar > thallium < 0.001 < 0.01 no bar > thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 no bar > uranium 0.021 < 0.06 green > nickel 0.21 < 0.4 green > silver 0.21 < 0.20 yellow > tin 0.58 < 0.3 yellow > titanium 1.1 < 1.0 yellow > Overall toxic representation yellow > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > element result ref range color under/over 50% > ============================================================== > Calcium 191 125-370 green under > Magnesium 10 12-30 yellow under > Sodium 280 12-90 red over > Potassium 190 12-40 red over > Copper 13 8-16 green over > Zinc 59 100-190 red under > Manganese 0.1 0.2-0.55 red under > Chromium 0.31 0.26-0.50 green under > Vanadium 0.045 0.03-0.10 green under > Molybdenum 0.064 0.05-0.13 green under > Boron 12 0.06-4.0 red over > Iodine 0.82 0.25-1.3 green over > Lithium 0.067 0.007-0.023 yellow over > Phosphorus 203 160-250 white over > Selenium 0.76 0.95-1.7 yellow under > Strontium 0.48 0.16-1.0 green over > Sulfur 53600 45500-53000 yellow over > Barium 0.15 0.16-0.8 yellow under > Cobalt 0.018 0.013-0.035 green under > Iron 8.1 8.0-19 green under > Germanium 0.052 0.045-0.065 green under > Rubidium 0.2 0.016-0.18 yellow over > Zirconium 1.6 0.04-1.0 yellow over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 > 1) Very High ANTIMONY and High TIN - will these chelate out with ALA, > what to do ? First, consider removing sources of current exposure http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm > 2) Very Low ZINC and MANGANESE - I want to start supplementing ZINC > straight away, is this a good idea or will it chelate away as fast as > I try to increase ? Start it now. Start with low dose and work up. > aluminum 9.4 < 8.0 yellow > antimony 0.31 < 0.066 red > arsenic 0.08 < 0.08 green/yellow > silver 0.21 < 0.20 yellow > tin 0.58 < 0.3 yellow > titanium 1.1 < 1.0 yellow Consider removing sources of current exposure, see link above. > Calcium 191 125-370 green under > Magnesium 10 12-30 yellow under Add cal/mag > Selenium 0.76 0.95-1.7 yellow under My son improved when I added this. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Comments interspersed. S > Hello !<BR> <BR> I am new to this website, but have already found it very valuable. <BR> > *welcome > Have just received hair test results for my son (age 3yrs 8mo) and <BR> desperately need some help and advice before starting chelation.<BR> <BR> Counting rules scored: 1) 11 = OK, 2) 5 = problem, 3) 11 = problem<BR> Although some of these are borderline I want to do a chelation using <BR> ALA only (which I can easily obtain in UK) but have some concerns <BR> about my son's profile as follows:<BR> <BR> 1) Very High ANTIMONY and High TIN - will these chelate out with ALA, <BR> what to do ?<BR> > *Try to identify and remove sources of exposure to these. danasview.net has a good thorough list. Antimony's used for flame retardant in bedding, pjs, upholstry, carseats, strollers, etc. among other things. Tin's in toothpaste (stannous fluoride) among other things. > 2) Very Low ZINC and MANGANESE - I want to start supplementing ZINC <BR> straight away, is this a good idea or will it chelate away as fast as <BR> I try to increase ?<BR> 3) Very High SODIUM, POTASSIUM, BORON, LITHIUM - should I leave <BR> these and hope that chelation will restore better balance ?<BR> <BR> These are the results from DDI LABS, based on HAIR ELEMENTS test <BR> using head hair from the back of the head (no hair treatments used, <BR> only baby shampoo) :<BR> <BR> POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS <BR> element result ref range color <BR> ============================================= <BR> aluminum 9.4 < 8.0 yellow<BR> antimony 0.31 < 0.066 red<BR> arsenic 0.08 < 0.08 green/yellow<BR> beryllium < 0.01 < 0.02 no bar<BR> bismuth 0.026 < 0.13 green<BR> cadmium 0.023 < 0.15 green<BR> lead 0.9 < 1.0 green<BR> mercury 0.25 < 0.4 green<BR> platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no bar<BR> thallium < 0.001 < 0.01 no bar<BR> thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 no bar<BR> uranium 0.021 < 0.06 green<BR> nickel 0.21 < 0.4 green<BR> silver 0.21 < 0.20 yellow <BR> tin 0.58 < 0.3 yellow<BR> titanium 1.1 < 1.0 yellow<BR> Overall toxic representation yellow<BR> <BR> ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS <BR> element result ref range color under/over 50% <BR> ============================================================== <BR> Calcium 191 125-370 green under<BR> Magnesium 10 12-30 yellow under<BR> Sodium 280 12-90 red over<BR> Potassium 190 12-40 red over<BR> Copper 13 8-16 green over<BR> Zinc 59 100-190 red under<BR> Manganese 0.1 0.2-0.55 red under<BR> Chromium 0.31 0.26-0.50 green under<BR> Vanadium 0.045 0.03-0.10 green under<BR> Molybdenum 0.064 0.05-0.13 green under<BR> Boron 12 0.06-4.0 red over<BR> Iodine 0.82 0.25-1.3 green over<BR> Lithium 0.067 0.007-0.023 yellow over<BR> Phosphorus 203 160-250 white over<BR> Selenium 0.76 0.95-1.7 yellow under<BR> Strontium 0.48 0.16-1.0 green over<BR> Sulfur 53600 45500-53000 yellow over<BR> Barium 0.15 0.16-0.8 yellow under<BR> Cobalt 0.018 0.013-0.035 green under<BR> Iron 8.1 8.0-19 green under<BR> Germanium 0.052 0.045-0.065 green under<BR> Rubidium 0.2 0.016-0.18 yellow over<BR> Zirconium 1.6 0.04-1.0 yellow over<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <br><br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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