Re: Here's an online list of accupressure points - Rhea

[Guest guest]

Back with you on the points for headaches and back pain.

Before I say anything else, my compliments to you on choosing the

web site that you did. Your post got me thinking so I did a web

search of my own this morning. I got 73 hits. Out of those hits, I

personally added 6 to my list of favorites for additional review

later. Three of them had extensive sections of other links that

will take me at least a week to browse through.

But, if I had been in your shoes, starting from where you were

starting, the single site that I would have picked is the one you

did. Understand where my criticisms were coming from. You came to

it with basically a zero pre-knowledge base. I came to it with

about 20 months of hands-on experience and close to 300 hours of

training in either direct acupressure techniques or very closely

related techniques.

It's short-comings not withstanding, it obviously is an effective

tool because you have been using it yourself with, what sounds like,

a high degree of success. Keep right on using it that way. Feel

free at any time to hit me with questions for help on locating

points or suggestions for points that I might know about that I

think might be more effective than some of the ones he is using.

I already knew that acupressure has been around for over 5000 years

and pre-dates acupuncture. Acupuncture is actually a more precise

refinement of acupressure. What I didn't know was that acupressure

is the third most popular treatment for pain relief in the world. I

found that very interesting. It was worth the time to make the

search just for that tid bit alone.

There were a couple of reasons why I questioned your use of a pencil

that I didn't get into earlier. I will now. First off, I know what

you mean about the fingers, and protecting your joints comes first.

You can't help yourself or anyone else if you are in too much pain

to do it.

But the big thing on using your fingers is to help you develop your

ability to actually feel the energy in the points. You already KNOW

that there is a reality to this because you are feeling and seeing

the results. But you can also learn to feel the energy itself. Once

you can do that, it will just blow the doors off what you will be

able to do with it. Remember what I said about holding for a

balance? You can't do that if you can't feel the energy.

What I am going to suggest is that you start trying to find the

points by feeling or sensing them with light pressure with the pads

of your fingers (the pads seem to be slightly more sensitive than

the actual tip ends). You don't need to work the points with your

fingers - you can still do that with the pencil - you are just

trying to find them. And you won't need to worry about stressing

your fingers because you won't be applying any pressure. You will

basically just be touching the skin. You do NOT need heavy pressure

to be able to do it. In fact, heavy pressure to start with will

actually make it more difficult for you to sense it. It is a very

subtle sensation and if you were not actually trying to feel it you

would never notice it. For me, it feels like a little vibration or

buzzing or tingling. A lot of times it will also feel like a

texture difference compared to the surrounding tissue, although this

is not the same as feeling the actual energy.

I am also going to suggest that you try to get into the habit of

working two points at the same time. This seems to dramatically

increase the effectiveness of the point work. More importantly, it

will help you develop your ability to feel the energy. And you also

have to hold two or more points at the same time to be able to tell

when a balance has been reached. Again, as long as you are not

applying heavy pressure, there shouldn't be a problem with over

stressing your fingers. Your internet chart won't always help you

with working two points simultaneously because you won't know how to

pair them. That's where I come in.

But the biggie is that once you are able to do all of the above, it

opens the door for me to help take you to the next level with energy

work. There are many, many styles of energy work. I personally tend

to use a blending of different styles in the same session, ranging

from pure energy work (acupressure, polarity, reiki, therapeutic

touch, touch for health, directed energy) to those with energetic

components (myofascial release, cranialsacral and lymphatic

drainage).

There are many components to the " energetic body " and the different

styles act in different ways and on different pieces of the whole.

Just one example is acupressure versus polarity. Acupressure works

with and through the traditional Chinese meridian structure.

Polarity works with and through the Indian or Ayuvdic Chakra

system. I haven't got a clue what directed energy specifically

accesses. All I know is that it works. At any rate, once you can

sense the energy and then hold for and feel a balance take place, I

can start introducing you to some techniques from these other

modalities. And that's when the real fun starts.

So much for the speech for the day.

Headache points. Personally, I don't use any of the three he listed

for headaches (I use those points, but not for headaches). The ones

I like for tension headaches are at the base of skull on the neck

muscles. There are five: Gall Bladder 20 and Bladder 10 (both sides

of the neck) and Governing Vessel 16 - right in the center, directly

below the skull ridge.

GB 20 -below the base of the skull, in the hollow between the two

vertical neck muscles. Put your finger/pencil on the muscle and

push up against the bone.

Benefits: relieves arthritis , headaches (including migraines),

dizziness, stiff neck, neck pain, neuromotor coordiantion problems,

eyestrain and irritability.

B 10 - one-half inch below the base of the skull on the ropy muscles

one-half inch out from the spine.

Benefits: relieves stress, burnout, exhaustion, insomnia, heaviness

in the head, headaches, eyestrain, stiff necks and sore throats.

GV 16 - in the center of the back of the head in a large hollow at

the base of the skull

Benefits: relieves pain in the eyes, ears, nose and throat as well

as mental problems, headaches, vertigo and stiff necks.

The points that I pesonally use most often for headaches are to

simultaneously hold both GB 20's with two fingers of my right hand

hand while holding both GB 14's with two fingers of my left hand.

GB 14 is located one thumb's width above the eyebrow in the forehead

on a line with the center of the eye when looking straight ahead.

There is a ridge of bone above the eye - it is right where the ridge

slopes downward toward the top of the head. (As info, you won't find

this one in Gach - he doesn't show it at all).

Not always, but I can usually stop a headache on somebody with the

GB 20's and 14's in 2-3 minutes or less. Another nice thing about

this combination is that you can either use acupressure by accessing

the specific points or polarity by using the palms of your hands

instead of your fingers. Just put the flat of your right hand

across the neck at the base of the skull and the flat of your left

hand across the forehead on the ridge line.

As info, the GB 20's are very powerful points. I start and end

every session with those two points. They are also used in

cranialsacral as part of the opening cranial vault hold, plus in

reiki, myofascial release and polarity - to name just a few.

There are other points if sinus headaches are involved but I will

cover them in a separate write-up dealing with sinus problems.

As for the back pain, I need a bit more information first. Exactly

what kind of back pain and where? There are scads of points for

back pain depending on the type.

[Guest guest]

Back with you on the points for headaches and back pain.

Before I say anything else, my compliments to you on choosing the

web site that you did. Your post got me thinking so I did a web

search of my own this morning. I got 73 hits. Out of those hits, I

personally added 6 to my list of favorites for additional review

later. Three of them had extensive sections of other links that

will take me at least a week to browse through.

But, if I had been in your shoes, starting from where you were

starting, the single site that I would have picked is the one you

did. Understand where my criticisms were coming from. You came to

it with basically a zero pre-knowledge base. I came to it with

about 20 months of hands-on experience and close to 300 hours of

training in either direct acupressure techniques or very closely

related techniques.

It's short-comings not withstanding, it obviously is an effective

tool because you have been using it yourself with, what sounds like,

a high degree of success. Keep right on using it that way. Feel

free at any time to hit me with questions for help on locating

points or suggestions for points that I might know about that I

think might be more effective than some of the ones he is using.

I already knew that acupressure has been around for over 5000 years

and pre-dates acupuncture. Acupuncture is actually a more precise

refinement of acupressure. What I didn't know was that acupressure

is the third most popular treatment for pain relief in the world. I

found that very interesting. It was worth the time to make the

search just for that tid bit alone.

There were a couple of reasons why I questioned your use of a pencil

that I didn't get into earlier. I will now. First off, I know what

you mean about the fingers, and protecting your joints comes first.

You can't help yourself or anyone else if you are in too much pain

to do it.

But the big thing on using your fingers is to help you develop your

ability to actually feel the energy in the points. You already KNOW

that there is a reality to this because you are feeling and seeing

the results. But you can also learn to feel the energy itself. Once

you can do that, it will just blow the doors off what you will be

able to do with it. Remember what I said about holding for a

balance? You can't do that if you can't feel the energy.

What I am going to suggest is that you start trying to find the

points by feeling or sensing them with light pressure with the pads

of your fingers (the pads seem to be slightly more sensitive than

the actual tip ends). You don't need to work the points with your

fingers - you can still do that with the pencil - you are just

trying to find them. And you won't need to worry about stressing

your fingers because you won't be applying any pressure. You will

basically just be touching the skin. You do NOT need heavy pressure

to be able to do it. In fact, heavy pressure to start with will

actually make it more difficult for you to sense it. It is a very

subtle sensation and if you were not actually trying to feel it you

would never notice it. For me, it feels like a little vibration or

buzzing or tingling. A lot of times it will also feel like a

texture difference compared to the surrounding tissue, although this

is not the same as feeling the actual energy.

I am also going to suggest that you try to get into the habit of

working two points at the same time. This seems to dramatically

increase the effectiveness of the point work. More importantly, it

will help you develop your ability to feel the energy. And you also

have to hold two or more points at the same time to be able to tell

when a balance has been reached. Again, as long as you are not

applying heavy pressure, there shouldn't be a problem with over

stressing your fingers. Your internet chart won't always help you

with working two points simultaneously because you won't know how to

pair them. That's where I come in.

But the biggie is that once you are able to do all of the above, it

opens the door for me to help take you to the next level with energy

work. There are many, many styles of energy work. I personally tend

to use a blending of different styles in the same session, ranging

from pure energy work (acupressure, polarity, reiki, therapeutic

touch, touch for health, directed energy) to those with energetic

components (myofascial release, cranialsacral and lymphatic

drainage).

There are many components to the " energetic body " and the different

styles act in different ways and on different pieces of the whole.

Just one example is acupressure versus polarity. Acupressure works

with and through the traditional Chinese meridian structure.

Polarity works with and through the Indian or Ayuvdic Chakra

system. I haven't got a clue what directed energy specifically

accesses. All I know is that it works. At any rate, once you can

sense the energy and then hold for and feel a balance take place, I

can start introducing you to some techniques from these other

modalities. And that's when the real fun starts.

So much for the speech for the day.

Headache points. Personally, I don't use any of the three he listed

for headaches (I use those points, but not for headaches). The ones

I like for tension headaches are at the base of skull on the neck

muscles. There are five: Gall Bladder 20 and Bladder 10 (both sides

of the neck) and Governing Vessel 16 - right in the center, directly

below the skull ridge.

GB 20 -below the base of the skull, in the hollow between the two

vertical neck muscles. Put your finger/pencil on the muscle and

push up against the bone.

Benefits: relieves arthritis , headaches (including migraines),

dizziness, stiff neck, neck pain, neuromotor coordiantion problems,

eyestrain and irritability.

B 10 - one-half inch below the base of the skull on the ropy muscles

one-half inch out from the spine.

Benefits: relieves stress, burnout, exhaustion, insomnia, heaviness

in the head, headaches, eyestrain, stiff necks and sore throats.

GV 16 - in the center of the back of the head in a large hollow at

the base of the skull

Benefits: relieves pain in the eyes, ears, nose and throat as well

as mental problems, headaches, vertigo and stiff necks.

The points that I pesonally use most often for headaches are to

simultaneously hold both GB 20's with two fingers of my right hand

hand while holding both GB 14's with two fingers of my left hand.

GB 14 is located one thumb's width above the eyebrow in the forehead

on a line with the center of the eye when looking straight ahead.

There is a ridge of bone above the eye - it is right where the ridge

slopes downward toward the top of the head. (As info, you won't find

this one in Gach - he doesn't show it at all).

Not always, but I can usually stop a headache on somebody with the

GB 20's and 14's in 2-3 minutes or less. Another nice thing about

this combination is that you can either use acupressure by accessing

the specific points or polarity by using the palms of your hands

instead of your fingers. Just put the flat of your right hand

across the neck at the base of the skull and the flat of your left

hand across the forehead on the ridge line.

As info, the GB 20's are very powerful points. I start and end

every session with those two points. They are also used in

cranialsacral as part of the opening cranial vault hold, plus in

reiki, myofascial release and polarity - to name just a few.

There are other points if sinus headaches are involved but I will

cover them in a separate write-up dealing with sinus problems.

As for the back pain, I need a bit more information first. Exactly

what kind of back pain and where? There are scads of points for

back pain depending on the type.